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Posted by: JosephStyles 8th September 2016, 09:35 PM

iTunes Weekly Thread
For discussion of the iTunes Singles chart.

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- International iTunes Chart Threads: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/International-Charts-f131.html
- Spotify Chart Thread: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=185366

New Releases
courtesy of ManicKangaroo

Busted – Coming Home
Celine Dion - Recovering
Elvis Presley - A Big Hunk O' Love
The Fray – Singing Low
Gorgon City feat Elderbrook – Smile (Terrace Dub)
Green Day – Revolution Radio [GRAT]
James Arthur - Say You Won’t Let Go
Jasmine Thompson – I Try
Kanye West - Fade
Kings Of Leon – Waste A Moment
Lady Gaga – Perfect Illusion
LeAnn Rimes – How To Kiss A Boy [GRAT]
Leon Else – Black Car
Mac Miller feat Ariana Grande – My Favourite Part [GRAT]
Major Lazer feat Justin Bieber & MØ - Cold Water [Remixes]
Metronomy – Night Owl
Nicky Romero feat Colton Avery – Take Me
Norah Jones – Flipside
Oliver Heldens - Flamingo
Peter Gabriel – The Veil
Post Malone feat Justin Bieber – Deja Vu
The Pretty Reckless – Oh My God [GRAT]
Regina Spektor – Black And White [GRAT]
Sandi Bogle – Casanova
Sleaford Mods – TCR
Status Quo – That's A Fact (Acoustic)
Taylor Henderson – Light Up The Dark
Throttle feat LunchMoney Lewis & Aston Merrygold – Money Maker
Tiesto & Dallas K – Your Love
Tove Lo feat Wiz Khalifa – Influence [GRAT]
Tyga feat Desiigner – Gucci Snakes

Posted by: JosephStyles 8th September 2016, 11:07 PM

GAGA WEEK

Posted by: edneyguerra 8th September 2016, 11:14 PM

cant wait for new years and years

Posted by: Rob S 8th September 2016, 11:14 PM

I want 2009 GaGa dominance back even a slightly small scale like Bad Romance when that entered at 14 & climbed to it's peak. Please happen

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th September 2016, 11:18 PM

Pfft. It's all about Busted this week (not that it'll do much, given that it was a free single a few months back).

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th September 2016, 11:30 PM

'Cool Girl' getting the 59p treatment

Posted by: jazzy_765 8th September 2016, 11:31 PM

What time is Lady Gaga's new single released? Does anybody know? please and thank you

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th September 2016, 11:34 PM

Just looked for the Busted track on iTunes and couldn't find it and they have listed it under B.U.S.T.E.D? Like the track and not what I was expecting

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th September 2016, 11:35 PM

Most likely midnight US time - It's currently just gone 7.30pm here on the East Coast so another 4.5 hours yet.

Posted by: JosephStyles 8th September 2016, 11:36 PM

Yup 5am for Gaga in the UK!

Posted by: jazzy_765 8th September 2016, 11:41 PM

Thanks I hope she has a more successful era than Artpop proved to be.... Still find it upsetting that Applause wasn't bigger.... My favourite Gaga song... Completely got overshadowed by Katy Perry's Roar!

Posted by: SevenSeize 9th September 2016, 12:10 AM

132 B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
310 James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
1149 Céline Dion - Recovering
1301 Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 9th September 2016, 12:12 AM

124. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
264. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
735. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)
1011. Céline Dion - Recovering
1313. Status Quo - That's a Fact (Acoustic Version)
1314. Green Day - Revolution Radio

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 9th September 2016, 12:41 AM

101. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
223. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
450. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)
921. Céline Dion - Recovering
1090. Green Day - Revolution Radio
1330. Status Quo - That's a Fact (Acoustic Version)

Posted by: omrimayo 9th September 2016, 03:48 AM

Gaga song is amazing. At least for me. So where is the kings of Leon song? I dont get it.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 9th September 2016, 05:23 AM

It's like an angry TEOG. Such a crazy song I have absolutely no idea how it will do but I don't think it sounds like a hit.

Posted by: *Ben* 9th September 2016, 05:39 AM

31. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion
70. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
137. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
168. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 05:54 AM

Was expecting more from gaga
Something with more universal appeal like
Uptown Funk
Dont think its in the Bad romance or Pokerface league
Not bad but no masterpiece

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 06:07 AM

18. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion

Posted by: vidcapper 9th September 2016, 06:13 AM

I like it - IMO the best thing she's released since her first album.

Kind of a power-ballady sound.

Posted by: cqmerqn 9th September 2016, 06:49 AM

Happy to see 'Cool Girl' being reduced to 59p

No Calvin then?

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 06:54 AM

Gaga @11

Posted by: cqmerqn 9th September 2016, 06:57 AM

Gaga #8

Posted by: Rob S 9th September 2016, 06:59 AM

8 now. I wasn't mad on it at first but it's already growing on me. 'It wasn't LOOOOOVE'

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 07:00 AM

6. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion

Taking the phrase 'SLAY' to a WHOLE new level.

Posted by: omrimayo 9th September 2016, 07:07 AM

Love the new Gaga so. Much.

Posted by: gavindeejay 9th September 2016, 07:19 AM

Nope, I guess it'll be a Calvin Harris vs Emeli Sande battle next week.

Gaga on with Grimmy this morning suggests to me that it'll be getting good support from Radio 1....possibly straight to B List? Will be interesting!

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 07:20 AM

4. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion

MASSIVE jump in the last few seconds to #4. Just go to #1 already.

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 07:35 AM

3. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion

I hope it'll be #1 by the time I get home from school, to be at #3 after just a few hours is very impressive.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 9th September 2016, 07:39 AM

50. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
70. Kings of Leon - Waste a Moment
71. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
75. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)
139. Green Day - Revolution Radio
242. Tove Lo - Influence (feat. Wiz Khalifa)
346. Tori Amos - Flicker
347. Céline Dion - Recovering
348. MAC MILLER - My Favorite Part (feat. Ariana Grande)
1396. Peter Gabriel – The Veil

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 07:41 AM

Surprised Gaga is #3 already. Kworb just updated and the gap was over 9%

Posted by: cqmerqn 9th September 2016, 07:50 AM

Any sign of OneRepublic's GRAT?

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 07:51 AM

#171

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 08:20 AM

gaga #2

Posted by: vidcapper 9th September 2016, 08:27 AM

A lot will depend on whether she appeals to streamers, though.

Posted by: liamk97 9th September 2016, 08:49 AM

Things seem stacked in her favour at the moment - she's advertised and first track on the New Music Friday playlist and I believe there are other advertisements on Spotify too.

Also, and this is probably more subjective, the track seems to require a few listens to get used to it, which could easily boost her streams a bit.

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 08:53 AM

she'll also have lots of curiosity streams, even from the gaga-haters

Posted by: danG 9th September 2016, 09:02 AM

I think she'll debut top 50 on Spotify considering she's well promoted on there. I'm still not fully sold on the song but there's no denying the marketing so far has been excellent.

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 09:06 AM

1. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion

Posted by: danG 9th September 2016, 09:08 AM

That didn't take long! Of course, sales are low so it's not as difficult - but it's good to see GaGa is still relevant enough to get an iTunes number one with her lead.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 9th September 2016, 09:23 AM

29. Kings of Leon - Waste a Moment
31. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
35. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
41. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)
57. Green Day - Revolution Radio
97. Tove Lo - Influence (feat. Wiz Khalifa)
140. OneRepublic - Future Looks Good
164. MAC MILLER - My Favorite Part (feat. Ariana Grande)
171. Céline Dion - Recovering
213. Peter Gabriel – The Veil
227. Tori Amos - Flicker
708. Elvis Presley - A Big Hunk O' Love

Posted by: Dane 9th September 2016, 09:25 AM

Wasn't overly keen on it at first but I am absolutely loving it! Miles above Applause. Hopefully she can get number one officially.

Posted by: ML Hammer95 9th September 2016, 09:26 AM

Didn't expect Post Malone to start so strongly (although that's down to the Bieber feature I imagine).

Lady GaGa still desperate I see judging by the heavy marketing and promotion this admittedly different sounding song is receiving.

Posted by: *Ben* 9th September 2016, 09:36 AM

I guess Twin Atlantic, Bastille, Travis Scott, Sia, Kings Of Leon and OneRepublic are all desperate, they are also heavily promoted on the front page of iTunes and Apple Music

Edit: oh and The Beatles too

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 09:36 AM

KOL #23

Posted by: PaulM1983 9th September 2016, 09:40 AM

Mess. God forbid an artist would want to market and promote their material.

Does that logic apply to everyone who has banners on the streaming/download sites, i.e every major artist IN THE WORLD?

Posted by: MyKindOfLove 9th September 2016, 09:43 AM

Who is buying James Arthur, UKIP supporters? (His homophobic comments)

Posted by: cqmerqn 9th September 2016, 09:53 AM

Gaga is number one

Posted by: *Ben* 9th September 2016, 09:57 AM

It was posted already 50 minutes ago

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 09:59 AM

19. Kings of Leon - Waste a Moment
23. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
30. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
37. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)

192 Tori Amos Flicker

surprised how well KOL and James Arthur are doing!!!

highest I've ever seen Tori on itunes with any of her songs

Posted by: mr_pmt 9th September 2016, 10:26 AM

To be fair to Gaga, she's been away for 3 years and this is truly make or break for her. They need to pull out all the stops and make sure they get every aspect of this right.

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th September 2016, 10:27 AM

I don't see how that makes her desperate, it's just raising awareness. I hate when people talk like promotion is a bad thing. If she was truly desperate, it would be 59p from the get go or something

Posted by: Scene 9th September 2016, 10:31 AM

Hopefully GaGa finally gets another UK #1. It's been over 6 years since her last.

Posted by: Regina 9th September 2016, 10:41 AM

Holy shit that Céline Dion song is gorgeous please do something.

Posted by: cqmerqn 9th September 2016, 10:45 AM

80. Tove Lo - Cool Girl

Would I be too optimistic to say this could reach a new peak this week? It's doing well on Spotify and I can see it going top 50 on iTunes within a couple of days

Posted by: Hassaan 9th September 2016, 11:05 AM

Maybe people who like the song? That was nearly three years ago. I'm not defending him but it's in the past now.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 9th September 2016, 11:08 AM

Surprised at James Arthur nearly being top 20 - I think if it wasn't for his Twitter meltdown he would've broken the whole make XF winner curse thing.

Can't believe that was 3 years ago!!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 9th September 2016, 11:09 AM

Yes how dare Lady Gaga and her marketing team actually want her to be a success this era

Posted by: mr_pmt 9th September 2016, 11:10 AM

Not to mention recording a song with immensely homophobic lyrics in it.

Posted by: Hadji 9th September 2016, 11:21 AM

Lady Gaga will get sales #1 but not too sure about official #1. Depends on how well the song does on streaming

Posted by: Herbs 9th September 2016, 11:23 AM

Good to see james arthur doing well. Hope he can get something out of it

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 11:23 AM

KOL #13

Posted by: AcerBen 9th September 2016, 11:47 AM

Mmm people need to get over the past. He's apologised for everything, accepted he was a dick and is asking for a second chance.

And the song is great. Good to see it doing well.

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th September 2016, 11:47 AM

1 Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion 1.0000 1.0000
2 The Chainsmokers - Closer (feat. Halsey) 0.7195 0.8983

Posted by: Mack 9th September 2016, 11:48 AM

James Arthur has disappeared from the Top1500 according to LivePopBars.

1. The Chainsmokers ft Halsey- Closer
2 Lady GaGa- Perfect Illusion

544. Prince Buster- One Step Beyond
684. Prince Buster- Al Capone
1161. Prince Buster- Madness

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th September 2016, 11:52 AM

Gaga's still at #1 though?

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 11:53 AM

So nice to see Gaga at #1, brings back memories

Posted by: Mack 9th September 2016, 11:57 AM

A bit of a joke there.

You can ask why people still buy songs from Chris Brown after what he did.

James Arthur wasn't obviously taught how to deal with the media after winning the X Factor. He's put his hands up and said sorry. But I can see why people ask why are we buying his songs.

Posted by: smidsy101 9th September 2016, 12:05 PM

It Appears that James Arthur's song has disappeared from iTunes altogether, nothing comes up when searched :/

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 12:16 PM

125 Céline Dion Recovering

Posted by: Herbs 9th September 2016, 12:25 PM

Maybe itunes didn't like how well he was doing!

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th September 2016, 12:27 PM

I expect James Arthur's song will reappear before long! Probably a similar situation to offaiah the other day. It's still up in other countries anyway.

Posted by: pippa 9th September 2016, 12:39 PM

Wonderful to see Lady Gaga doing so well, i would welcome her going number 1 officialy next Friday, i hope she can get good streaming. I applaud that she is pulling out the stops to promote and market as for established acts its getting harder and harder to get a high peak. I would welcome many more established artists doing the same.


The new Celine Dion song is fabulous and deserves a far higher placing than it currently has, i would welcome increases throughout the week for this beautiful song.

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 01:43 PM

he's back
28 James Arthur Say You Won't Let Go

KOL#12

Posted by: Scene 9th September 2016, 01:54 PM

Last week's #1 had a combined total of 76k - I know sales have really dropped recently but isn't GaGa still the type of artist that could get 70k sales alone? I mean, it's been 3 years since she was last around in the charts and I'd say PI is more of an event than Applause was...

Posted by: ___∆___ 9th September 2016, 02:01 PM

So pleased for Gaga! And I know sales are low but who knew James Arthur was still relevant (And I see he's still with Sony but the German arm of the business).

Posted by: pippa 9th September 2016, 02:06 PM

Gaga could indeed attract high sales (sales only) streaming is what may let her down.

Really surprised to see James Arthur so high but I would believe he will drop each day and if lucky will manage a top 100 entry.

Delighted to see Olly Murs climbing within the top 10 again, if his streaming could improve he would easily have a top 10 hit (officially).

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 02:14 PM

Considering Applause debuted with 38k I doubt she'd be able to double that

Posted by: SKOB 9th September 2016, 02:23 PM

Top ten is the goal for Gaga, it'd be big for her considering that neither Britney, Pink nor Katy couldn't reach it

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 02:23 PM

11. Kings of Leon - Waste a Moment
21. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home
23. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
30. Post Malone - Deja Vu

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 02:24 PM

Or Ariana

Posted by: Scene 9th September 2016, 02:40 PM

True but by 2013 the GP got tired of GaGa's antics and there was a backlash against her. Applause was also too theatrical to be massive. It seemed like a single only her fanbase would eat up. Whereas PI comes at a time where she's redeemed herself through being out of the public eye musically for 3 years - plus PI itself is a lot more instant and universal than Applause.

Posted by: fatmuffin 9th September 2016, 03:12 PM

That James Arthur song sounds very like the verses of Adele's Someone Like You

Posted by: mr_pmt 9th September 2016, 03:16 PM

'Applause' had half a week, if that remember!

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 03:18 PM

I'm 99% certain Gaga will be top ten, probably even top 5.

KOL are top ten - isn't it lovely to see so much new stuff in the chart

Posted by: mr_pmt 9th September 2016, 03:23 PM

Regarding Tove Lo, 'Influence' is such a better song than 'Cool Girl' it's not even funny.

Posted by: Ne Plus Ultra 9th September 2016, 03:23 PM

If you were talking about the demo, I'd agree. Wiz Khalifa <<<<<<<<<<

Posted by: mr_pmt 9th September 2016, 03:25 PM

His addition to it isn't ideal. But still.

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 03:27 PM

No. Cool Girl >>>>>

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 03:45 PM

KOL #10
james Arthur #19

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 04:10 PM

Dark red for Gaga

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 04:12 PM

What? I didn't expect that Oh dear.

Posted by: John-James 9th September 2016, 04:16 PM

Apparently Radio 1 haven't played it since she was on the show It's not even TOTD

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 04:24 PM

I thought it was a bit strange they didn't play it at the start of the chart show I hope it settles soon and doesn't plummet

Posted by: T Boy 9th September 2016, 04:30 PM

I'm enjoying the new Kings of Leon track. I hope they can mange top 40 with it, it'd be nice to see an act like them still do well enough.

Posted by: Liаm 9th September 2016, 04:38 PM

Maybe they'll give her TOTD tomorrow, she had the breakfast show so perhaps they'll stretch out her promo over th 2 days for maximum impakttt.

Posted by: Bjork 9th September 2016, 04:39 PM

sure it will be TOTD on Monday, to spread the promo and not put it all on day 1 (KOL was TOTD today)

Posted by: HarryEzra 9th September 2016, 04:39 PM

Matt Edmondson played it

Posted by: Hassaan 9th September 2016, 04:44 PM

Brace yourselves guys - a group perform One Dance on The X Factor this weekend.

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 04:45 PM

Oh my god. Was it Hadji that predicted that?

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th September 2016, 04:47 PM

Guys can I please ask that X Factor song choices are put in spoilers? Some may not want to know before broadcast (myself included, I find it more fun when I don't know what's being sung during the early stages)

Posted by: Hassaan 9th September 2016, 04:49 PM

Apologies. Will make sure next time.

Posted by: JosephStyles 9th September 2016, 04:52 PM

No worries! Thanks very much

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 9th September 2016, 05:59 PM

10. Kings of Leon - Waste a Moment
16. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
22. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)
23. B.U.S.T.E.D - Coming Home9
44. Green Day - Revolution Radio
57. Peter Gabriel – The Veil
60. Tove Lo - Influence (feat. Wiz Khalifa)
69. Bon Jovi - Knockout
103. OneRepublic - Future Looks Good
108. Céline Dion - Recovering
109. Knife Party & Tom Morello n Battle Sirens
124. MAC MILLER - My Favorite Part (feat. Ariana Grande)
129. Tori Amos - Flicker
149. Madness - Mr. Apples
187. The Pretty Reckless – Oh My God
326. Throttle - Money Maker (feat. LunchMoney Lewis & Aston Merrygold)
340. Kanye West - Fade
490. Elvis Presley - A Big Hunk O' Love
633. Nicky Romero - Take Me (feat. Colton Avery)
672. Norah Jones – Flipside
707. Tyga - Gucci Snakes (feat. Desiigner)
1339. Gorgon City - Smile (feat. Elderbrook) [Terrace Dub]

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 9th September 2016, 06:14 PM

166. Wilkinson - Sweet Lies (feat. Karen Harding)
208. Röyksopp - Never Ever (feat. Susanne Sundfør) [Edit]
345. Grandaddy - Way We Won't
1071. Pixies - Tenement Song
1255. White Lies - Come On

Posted by: Jack 9th September 2016, 06:16 PM

Who knew Kings Of Leon and James Arthur were semi relevant?!

Posted by: AcerBen 9th September 2016, 07:40 PM

Fantastic to see James Arthur doing so well!! I think having the video out on release day has got to help and don't understand why more acts aren't doing it.

Posted by: marcin 9th September 2016, 08:42 PM

I knew that Kings of Leon have been very relevant for a long while now.

Posted by: Jack 9th September 2016, 09:32 PM

That's nice.

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 09:33 PM

James Arthur looking like a shoe in for a top 40.

Posted by: burbe 9th September 2016, 09:36 PM

Surely it's too early to say?

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 9th September 2016, 09:46 PM

10. Kings of Leon - Waste a Moment
14. James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go (+154)
20. Post Malone - Deja Vu (feat. Justin Bieber)
23. Busted - Coming Home
44. Green Day - Revolution Radio
58. Peter Gabriel – The Veil
59. Tove Lo - Influence (feat. Wiz Khalifa)
68. Bon Jovi - Knockout
96. White Yardie - How Mi Talk Suh
98. OneRepublic - Future Looks Good
104. Céline Dion - Recovering
112. Knife Party & Tom Morello - Battle Sirens
121. MAC MILLER - My Favorite Part (feat. Ariana Grande)
130. Tori Amos - Flicker
136. Wilkinson - Sweet Lies (feat. Karen Harding)
153. Röyksopp - Never Ever (feat. Susanne Sundfør) [Edit]
167. The Pretty Reckless – Oh My God
243. Kanye West - Fade
314. Throttle - Money Maker (feat. LunchMoney Lewis & Aston Merrygold)
466. Elvis Presley - A Big Hunk O' Love
512. Nicky Romero - Take Me (feat. Colton Avery)
670. Tyga - Gucci Snakes (feat. Desiigner)
968. Idina Menzel - Small World
1027. Gorgon City - Smile (feat. Elderbrook) [Terrace Dub]
1164. White Lies - Come On
1414. The Fray - Singing Low
1415. LeAnn Rimes - How to Kiss a Boy
1416. Dakota - Long Hot Summer

Posted by: *.* 9th September 2016, 09:50 PM

Seems as though I got the meaning of "shoe in" wrong. Oops.

Posted by: danG 9th September 2016, 09:51 PM

I really can't see James Arthur making the top 40 myself. He'll be having very poor streaming and there's no way he'll sustain a position that high on iTunes for the whole week.

Posted by: Mart!n 9th September 2016, 10:10 PM

I wonder if Bryan Adams is recording the theme for the new King Arthur: Legend of the Sword movie next year

Posted by: danG 9th September 2016, 10:22 PM

I hope not, we don't need another song of his going to #1 for sixteen weeks (lol as if that'd happen)

Posted by: mr_pmt 9th September 2016, 10:54 PM

And the spelling!

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th September 2016, 12:13 AM

Pleased to see Busted at #23 - Really hope this can somehow become a hit but fully expecting it to disappear rapidly

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th September 2016, 12:59 AM

I didn't expect gaga to stall this quickly

Posted by: Houdini 10th September 2016, 01:04 AM

Just heard the new Lady Gaga song and it's abysmal in my opinion. She sounds like she's in serious pain!

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th September 2016, 01:05 AM

Oh my god

Posted by: bluebitchboy 10th September 2016, 01:28 AM

I agree - i think it's a very mediocre song. Her fans are falling over themselves to praise it, naturally, but I don't think it's strong enough to garner decent radio support. I expect it to fall rapidly on itunes.

Posted by: Bjork 10th September 2016, 06:02 AM

james Arthur #13
Chainsmokers up to 0.85 (the lower they got was 0.70), Gaga's had dark red updates all night

Posted by: Bjork 10th September 2016, 08:29 AM

KOL #8

Posted by: T Boy 10th September 2016, 09:08 AM

I am not a Lady Gaga fan and I quite like Perfect Illusion. And before this Edge Of Glory was the only thing I liked from her post 2009.

Although I'm team Kings Of Leon this week, and I hope KT Tunstall does ok with her album.

Posted by: *.* 10th September 2016, 09:33 AM

1. The Chainsmokers ft Halsey - Closer
2. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion
3. Sia ft Kendrick Lamar - The Greatest

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 10th September 2016, 09:37 AM

Going back to this, Pillowtalk didn't gain a massive advantage from the X Factor so it might not affect this song either

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 10th September 2016, 09:40 AM

Gaga coming for that #25 smash then

Posted by: Mart!n 10th September 2016, 09:44 AM

One Dance is still in the top 10 though, where Pillowtalk is no where to be seen, bit of a difference methinks, but I can't see One Dance going back to #1 now.

Posted by: Jack 10th September 2016, 09:45 AM

Closer is such a mediocre boring song. I'm so bored of this type of typical dance doing well in the charts.

Posted by: *.* 10th September 2016, 09:47 AM

I must be the only one that thinks it sounds nothing like the kind of generic dance stuff we've been seeing this year.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 10th September 2016, 09:50 AM

12. James Arthur // Say You Won't Let Go (plus @75 too)

It's actually not too far off going top 10 looking at the numbers on Kworb

Posted by: Rob Spears 10th September 2016, 09:50 AM

That was short lived!

Posted by: *.* 10th September 2016, 09:52 AM

It's #9 combined

Posted by: mr_pmt 10th September 2016, 10:11 AM

That's a pretty big dip for Gaga in one update!

Posted by: Scene 10th September 2016, 10:32 AM

Oh no. Not James Arthur looking to be successful again. If he manages to get even a minor hit with this I am expecting his arrogance and idiocy to re-emerge. He might have had some media training since 2013 but he'll always be a douche imo.

Posted by: lewistgreen 10th September 2016, 10:44 AM

151. KDA - Just Say (feat. Tinashe)

Still absolutely adoring this. Just hoping it does something!

Posted by: darrens94 10th September 2016, 11:36 AM

I can actually see this being a being a bit of hit eventually. its very thinking out loud, all of me and dancing on my own

Posted by: girl_from_oz 10th September 2016, 11:37 AM

That James Arthur song is doing well on Itunes but doesn't seem to be on any of Apple Music's major playlists

Posted by: John-James 10th September 2016, 12:01 PM

Wow. Gaga freefalling on pop bars

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th September 2016, 12:11 PM

Can anyone see Influence becoming a bit hit? It sounds like a song which will be loved on Spotify

Posted by: Scene 10th September 2016, 12:16 PM

I'm sure Gaga will stabilise at some point and rise again soon. Does she have any more UK promo this week?

Posted by: ElectroBoy 10th September 2016, 12:35 PM

11. James Arthur // Say You Won't Let Go
12. Kings of Leon // Waste a Moment

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th September 2016, 12:40 PM

Ew at James Arthur, who knew he had fans?

Posted by: Euphorique 10th September 2016, 01:01 PM

Agreed. I dont care for the song but its hardly "typical dance" that we've been getting. It barely qualifies as dance too.

Posted by: Jason 10th September 2016, 01:37 PM

HA! Lady Flop

Posted by: Regina 10th September 2016, 01:41 PM

how brilliantly original and witty.

Posted by: edneyguerra 10th September 2016, 02:07 PM

someone is mad

Posted by: T Boy 10th September 2016, 02:10 PM

I'm sure LG is crying herself to sleep over that drop.

My goodness, some people on here

Posted by: Hadji 10th September 2016, 02:20 PM

22. Post Malone. Didn't expect a song involving Justin Bieber to fall

Posted by: *.* 10th September 2016, 02:33 PM

Is "Lady Flop" meant to be funny/a remotely humourous play on words? I don't get it.

Posted by: danG 10th September 2016, 02:57 PM

Nope, he's just replacing the word GaGa with Flop.

At least call her Lady FlopGa if you're trying to be funny, although that joke (and Artflop) have been done to death.

Posted by: The Hit Parade 10th September 2016, 03:10 PM

Ever?

Posted by: Jonjo 10th September 2016, 04:22 PM

Amazing for Busted! Especially considering the track was given away for free a few months ago!

Posted by: troylovesmusic 10th September 2016, 05:00 PM

James Arthur has always had a big fanbase I think Syco were too hasty dropping him tbh . His debut single and Album did decently both charted at number 2 . His single would have got number 1 as well if it wasn't for the massive single that was 'Royals' which came out the same week . I think they probably did drop him due to all the controversy with him on Twitter which ok he was an idiot for but he's a talented guy so I'm glad he's getting a second shot .

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th September 2016, 05:09 PM

TBH I'm shocked at how well he's doing - he's been away for several years so to be challenging for Top 10 with a release with no build up is big for him.

Also I know Syco dropped him but he is still part of the Sony family - he is signed to Sony Germany so while Syco parted ways with him he has remained with the overall company.

Posted by: *.* 10th September 2016, 05:20 PM

The track does sound BIG. It could be this years equivalent of Wasn't Expecting That.

Posted by: *.* 10th September 2016, 05:21 PM

oh, and it took us until Tuesday afternoon to get to 150 replies last week - good to see the iTunes thread feeling phresh.

Posted by: T Boy 10th September 2016, 05:52 PM

I don't like James Arthur anyway but telling me his track sounds like Ed Sheeran/Jamie Lawson definitely isn't going to change my mind.

Posted by: burbe 10th September 2016, 06:52 PM

I don't particularly like Perfect Illusion but it would be nice to see it stabilise so we can have some fresh music in the top 10!

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th September 2016, 07:32 PM

Gaga impact Hopefully now we are coming out of the summer lull we will start to see more big releases

Posted by: edneyguerra 10th September 2016, 08:07 PM

i need friday night on itunes

Posted by: danG 10th September 2016, 08:20 PM

Friday Night is on iTunes I was just told, the name's Beck Martin.

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 10th September 2016, 08:22 PM

Posted by: danG 10th September 2016, 08:33 PM

X Factor

27. Drake - One Dance (feat. Wizkid & Kyla)
47. Birdy - Wild Horses

a lot of 'funny/bad' auditions tonight so not much of an effect for the songs used. 'Wild Horses' is here from the sponsor ad, no-one sung it.

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 10th September 2016, 08:41 PM

1093. Beck Martin - Friday Night

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 10th September 2016, 09:01 PM

814. Beck Martin - Friday Night

Let's see how high it gets before it no doubt gets deleted

Posted by: AcerBen 10th September 2016, 09:21 PM

I don't think it will get deleted because it seems unlikely he'll make live shows

Posted by: *.* 10th September 2016, 09:34 PM

hopefully we'll reach 300 replies this week and 500 some time this year

Posted by: Mack 10th September 2016, 09:55 PM

581. Beck Martin- Friday Night

No reason why this should be deleted.

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th September 2016, 10:31 PM

Birdy getting that weekly 2 day XF boost before slumping to the bottom of the iTunes chart again

Posted by: mr_pmt 11th September 2016, 12:59 AM

'Wild Horses' is one of the only things I've liked from her, I'd be okay with that eventually amounting to something.

Posted by: Tombo 11th September 2016, 09:35 AM

James Arthur for the top ten! I am pleasantly surprised he is doing so well!

Posted by: Bjork 11th September 2016, 10:10 AM

he's #8 combined

Posted by: Bjork 11th September 2016, 11:10 AM

Gaga down to #4

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 11th September 2016, 11:51 AM

451. Beck Martin - Friday Night

Well I guess its too much to ask for a position in the Top 100 (or , depending on what you think of it)

Posted by: Alex! 11th September 2016, 12:20 PM

Performed on X Factor last night:

21. Drake - One Dance (feat. Wizkid & Kyla) (Also 520)
47. Justin Bieber - Love Yourself (Also 352)
66. Mary J. Blige - No More Drama (Also 273)
189. Usher - Yeah! (feat. Lil Jon & Ludacris)
282. Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
351. Tina Turner - Proud Mary
418. Beck Martin - Friday Night (Also 1131)
479. Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up
1239. Carpenters - (They Long To Be) Close To You

Posted by: Karma 11th September 2016, 12:43 PM

Oh dear the new Gaga song is so bad. I was looking forward to it when I heard Mark Ronson was on board, but this is seriously bad. One of my least favourite songs of the year so far.

Posted by: *.* 11th September 2016, 12:52 PM

Shame to see not everyone is loving it, such a jam to my ears

Posted by: cqmerqn 11th September 2016, 01:55 PM

Yeah.. I really dislike Perfect Illusion.

Posted by: cqmerqn 11th September 2016, 06:00 PM

64. Tove Lo - Cool Girl

How do we think this will do officially this week? I think top 50 considering it has decent Spotify numbers.

Posted by: ___∆___ 11th September 2016, 06:19 PM

Bit surprised this hasn't benefitted more from being 59p - I thought it would have pushed it easily back into the Top 40 due to low sales.

Posted by: *.* 11th September 2016, 06:23 PM

I'd love for it to go top 40 eventually - can't see it happening though

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 11th September 2016, 08:28 PM

311. Beck Martin - Friday Night (Also 543)

Posted by: cqmerqn 11th September 2016, 08:47 PM

7. Lady Gaga - Perfect Illusion

Posted by: danG 11th September 2016, 08:47 PM

X Factor (this weekend)

6. Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own ** (and #71, Tiësto mix #27)
18. Drake - One Dance (feat. Wizkid & Kyla)
26. Digital Farm Animals & Cash Cash - Millionaire (feat. Nelly) *
37. Birdy - Wild Horses *
60. Whitney Houston - All The Man I Need
62. Sam Smith - Writing's On The Wall
70. Zara Larsson - Lush Life *
72. Mary J Blige - No More Drama
106. Naughty Boy - Runnin' (Lose It All) (feat. Beyoncé & Arrow Benjamin)
154. Sigala - Give Me Your Love (feat. John Newman & Nile Rodgers) (and #177) *

*used in sponsor advert
**Robyn version was performed

-x-

33,000th post

Posted by: 777666jason 11th September 2016, 08:48 PM

Not sure about the gaga song yet its certainly catchy and repetitive but could be the sort that gets annoyingif she does well however it is a step upfrom the artppp era

Posted by: Jack 11th September 2016, 08:50 PM

The cover of Dancing On My Own is one of the worst things I've ever heard. Annoyed it's become so big.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 11th September 2016, 10:32 PM

08. Lady GaGa

It's sales have completely gone Into freefall looking at kworb

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th September 2016, 11:00 PM

Disappointed to see Lady Gaga dropping so much

Posted by: Bjork 12th September 2016, 06:06 AM

Calum is actually @2 again combined

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th September 2016, 08:25 AM

10. James Arthur // Say You Won't Let Go

Posted by: Davidson 12th September 2016, 08:30 AM

Still surprised to see James Arthur having any fans but it might actually be down to people enjoying the song I suppose, it does seem like the kind of song that would do pretty well in the UK charts.

Only gripe is how much it copies the melody of 'The Man Who Can't Be Moved'.

Posted by: omrimayo 12th September 2016, 08:40 AM

Really good song.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th September 2016, 09:58 AM

09. James Arthur // Say You Won't Let Go

Posted by: Bjork 12th September 2016, 10:00 AM

he's actually at #8 combined
so Gaga is #9

Posted by: pes 12th September 2016, 10:00 AM

The song is beautiful..it is on repeat on my spotify..I dig more about him and did not know he had been such a joke , I still love his voice though

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th September 2016, 10:06 AM

With the other version added I think he could be ahead of Murs too

Posted by: Bjork 12th September 2016, 10:57 AM

Didnt realise Ariana is at @4

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th September 2016, 11:23 AM

08. James Arthur
09. Lady GaGa

Posted by: Josh 12th September 2016, 11:29 AM

Surprised to see GaGa drop already. She needs to push that promo asap.

Posted by: mr_pmt 12th September 2016, 11:32 AM

If you told me this time last week that over the course of the week James Arthur would end up higher than Lady Gaga I'd have laughed at you...

Posted by: danG 12th September 2016, 11:34 AM

James Arthur doing better on iTunes than Lady GaGa, who would have thought?

Posted by: Bjork 12th September 2016, 11:38 AM

If he could be top 10 all week
And make 2k-ish per day
He could make the top 40
Even with poor streaming

Posted by: tiendat7 12th September 2016, 11:45 AM

i like gaga, she come back

Posted by: Bjork 12th September 2016, 12:10 PM

Really thought gaga was gonna be
Track of the Day on R1 today
Just to remind people of it
Anhæd help it stabilize

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th September 2016, 12:17 PM

Literally at James Arthuer, thought he would struggle to go Top 50 on iTunes. It's nice to have a surprise 'hit' though and if media gets behind it could be this years 'Wasn't Expecting That' moment.

Posted by: ML Hammer95 12th September 2016, 12:23 PM

All for surprise hits, so well done James Arthur.

Posted by: Jaÿ 12th September 2016, 01:02 PM

Posted by: pippa 12th September 2016, 01:10 PM

James Arthur

I can only applaud the turn-around.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th September 2016, 01:37 PM

07. James Arthur
08. Olly Murs

Posted by: Herbs 12th September 2016, 01:49 PM

At the moment I'm not wowed by the James Arthur track but I really want him to do well. As a gay man I could be immature and continue to judge him for something that happened 3 years ago, but instead I'd rather accept his repeated apologies and move on...

Posted by: Hadji 12th September 2016, 01:54 PM

I think James Arthur will just about scrape the top 40 as he's nowhere to be seen on Spotify

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th September 2016, 02:23 PM

He's up to six now!

EDIT - And Now 05.

Posted by: *.* 12th September 2016, 03:55 PM

BLOODY HELL. I have genuinely NO IDEA how James Arthur is doing so well but I'm so happy for him. The fact he could debut top 40 on Friday is brilliant.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th September 2016, 04:42 PM

Has he done any promo for it? It's been climbing steadily all week and seems like there was little to no build up to the release.

Posted by: *.* 12th September 2016, 04:49 PM

Literally 0 promo. Shawn Mendes said in an interview about how James Arthur was his idol, though.

Posted by: pes 12th September 2016, 04:53 PM

I think he has done thismorning that's the boost from 11 to 5

Posted by: Houdini 12th September 2016, 04:55 PM

After seeing his chart performance James Arthur is probably at home now drinking his W K D thinking "blimey I thought people hated me? "

Posted by: T Boy 12th September 2016, 05:23 PM

So are you of the assumption that anyone who doesn't like the song is an immature gay holding what he said 3 years ago against him?

I don't like it because it's pretty poo tbh.

Posted by: *.* 12th September 2016, 05:24 PM

Yeah, it is very boring, but then again I'm a boring person so it's only right that I like it

Posted by: Herbs 12th September 2016, 06:36 PM

I've seen some comments to that effect, but no I don't assume that everyone dislikes it for that reason

Posted by: Envoirment 12th September 2016, 06:59 PM

Surprised but very happy to see James Arthur's new song doing so well! Hopefully it'll prompt BBC Radio 1/2 etc to playlist it.

Posted by: edneyguerra 12th September 2016, 07:14 PM

i cant wait for years and years new song tomorrow
they will be in bbc breakfast and capital morning show

Posted by: Jonjo 12th September 2016, 07:17 PM

Is Shawn Australian? (ICR) If so, 'Impossible' was a monster hit over there iirc, so it's wouldn't be as odd as you'd first think, him stating that haha!

Posted by: Rob Spears 12th September 2016, 07:18 PM

Canadian!

Posted by: Jonjo 12th September 2016, 07:18 PM

Oops.

Posted by: *.* 12th September 2016, 07:31 PM

He said it was primarily because he's an avid fan of the UK X-Factor, and supported him since the start on there. Didn't expect him to be a James fan of all people.

Posted by: Scene 12th September 2016, 07:51 PM

Wouldn't anyone apologise and beg forgiveness if they found out most of the country hated them?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/james-arthur-departs-record-label-3381018

Posted by: pippa 12th September 2016, 08:06 PM

James Arthur moved top 5 on itunes. Is this the big un-expected surprise of the year.

Posted by: *.* 12th September 2016, 08:20 PM

to be quite honest, as much of a surprise this is, the success of I'll Be There by The Neales is undebatedly the best chart surprise of the year

Posted by: JosephStyles 12th September 2016, 08:23 PM

I think that was a bit too much of a surprise :')

Posted by: *.* 12th September 2016, 08:25 PM

i literally refreshed the Online Radio webpage because i thought it'd glitched and changed to Radio 2 !!

Posted by: *.* 12th September 2016, 08:35 PM

what a spammer!!1 two posts consecutively !!!1 anyway, Fade by Kanye has been silently rising for the last few days - on the verge of the top 20 right now, looks as though it could be the second top 40 hit for him from T.L.O.P - I assume this is mostly due to the immense support Radio 1 have been giving it. i have no doubt it'll have no trouble in amassing streams so hopefully it could be a bit hit in due course.

Posted by: Herbs 12th September 2016, 08:44 PM

Didn't say it was. People move on though. He has apologised for his behaviour. I accept that and only care about the music....

Posted by: jase. 12th September 2016, 09:09 PM

Posted by: tommie 12th September 2016, 09:10 PM

ppl luv their homophones tbh x

Posted by: Brett-Butler 12th September 2016, 09:26 PM

Lady Mondegreen, for one.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th September 2016, 09:38 PM

04. James Arthur
05. Ariana Grande

Posted by: danG 12th September 2016, 09:40 PM

LMAO what is up with James Arthur still climbing now?

coming for #1???

Posted by: JosephStyles 12th September 2016, 09:43 PM

And there was me, frantically scrambling together a chart thread post for it :')

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th September 2016, 11:30 PM

at James Arthur being #4 with seemingly no promo or radio play?! Coming for the #1

Posted by: Bjork 13th September 2016, 05:44 AM

So unexpected that Spotify didnt even put
James Arthur on the new music Friday playlist

Gaga at #11

Posted by: cqmerqn 13th September 2016, 07:17 AM

Gaga stabilising now.

Posted by: *.* 13th September 2016, 07:41 AM

James Arthur could realistically reach #2 today - if he has a big update this morning.

Posted by: Bjork 13th September 2016, 07:43 AM

I doubt it, Calum is miles and miles ahead when combined

Posted by: omrimayo 13th September 2016, 08:14 AM

The new years and years is out. Will be top 10 I think. Happy for James, the best song in the top 10. Spotify must put him at some platlists. No fair.

Posted by: *Ben* 13th September 2016, 08:22 AM

That's actually not true. Calum is only around 0.05 ahead of James when combined.

Posted by: Mango 13th September 2016, 08:23 AM

Yeah, I noticed that. Does anyone know what the criteria is for them adding songs to the NMF playlist? Or is it literally what the person who's compiling it feels like at the time? Surely James Arthur is a big enough name to include, especially as the song is half decent.

Posted by: *.* 13th September 2016, 08:24 AM

Ah yes good point Bjork - I forgot Dancing On My Own wasn't combined. Years and Years have had a decent start, climbing into the top 100.

Posted by: JosephStyles 13th September 2016, 08:25 AM

I doubt it was purposely excluded from the playlist, maybe the compiler didn't realise it was out, who knows. It's not some Spotify vendetta when he was on some other countries' playlists.

Hoping Y&Y can climb nice and high, great song!

Posted by: Bjork 13th September 2016, 08:26 AM

usually they include all big releases
but this week they missed James Arthur, Tori amos and Celine Dion

Posted by: *.* 13th September 2016, 08:26 AM

Anyone know why other record companies don't do an Alex Day these days and release multiple song versions? it's a no brainer if you want a top fourty and you've got a decent fanbase.

Posted by: *Ben* 13th September 2016, 08:27 AM

As I said Calum isn't miles ahead and not to forget James has a second version too at #81 so Calum is just about to lose his advantage.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 08:28 AM

73. Years & Years // Meteorite

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 08:29 AM

Yes but were any of those even anticipated to a big release?

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 08:44 AM

03. James Arthur // Say You Won't Let Go
46. Years & Years // Meteorite

Posted by: JosephStyles 13th September 2016, 08:46 AM

Wow this is great for Y&Y! Not even been out an hour yet!

Posted by: missingyou 13th September 2016, 08:49 AM

James Arthur is mean

Posted by: omrimayo 13th September 2016, 08:49 AM

The James Arthur One is amazing. IT needs to pick up on Spotify like now... and he will be preforming at the X Factor for sure!

Posted by: *.* 13th September 2016, 08:51 AM

Thanks for the inspired contribution to the thread

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 08:52 AM

Will be interesting to see if it climbs on spotify in todays update.

Posted by: omrimayo 13th September 2016, 08:55 AM

I guess not to much :| No playlists too much yet :|

Posted by: Bjork 13th September 2016, 09:02 AM

ouch I miscalculated when adding up the different Calum versions, he's #2 but just barely ahead...

1 Chainsmokers 1.00
2 Calum Scott 0.586
3 DJ Snake 0.567
4 James Arthur 0.545
5 Sia 0.52

Posted by: *.* 13th September 2016, 09:05 AM

93. Professor Green - Back on the Market

Is this a new release?

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 09:15 AM

12. Lady GaGa
40. Years & Years
85. Professor Greeen

Posted by: Mango 13th September 2016, 09:20 AM

But the point is, they include much smaller releases than that from completely unknown artists, so why not those?

In other news, YAY for the return of Pro Green gonna check it out right now, it better not disappoint!!

Posted by: mr_pmt 13th September 2016, 09:21 AM

To be fair, it's no better or worse than some of the things you come out with at times.

Posted by: omrimayo 13th September 2016, 10:15 AM

Number 3 Itunes and 139 Spotify :| James.

Posted by: AcerBen 13th September 2016, 10:19 AM

It's an outrage how much influence the curated playlists have on the chart now. I know it's never been a truly level playing field - in the physical era it was largely down to availability e.g. not being stocked in Woolies meant you had no chance of making the top 10. But it feels wrong that a song can go top 5 on iTunes and still not be top 100 on Spotify.

Plus we have records that have had absolutely no mainstream support (and next to no downloads) making the official top 100 purely because they have managed to get on these playlists.

Posted by: mdh 13th September 2016, 10:21 AM

The iTunes chart should be a featured playlist - updated every morning with the iTunes top 50.

Posted by: ML Hammer95 13th September 2016, 10:22 AM

Yeah, premiered last night on 1Xtra. Comeback track, doesn't sound like it's aimed at the charts.

Posted by: danG 13th September 2016, 10:32 AM

Yes, because Spotify would realistically make a playlist advertising their main competitor.

Posted by: Scene 13th September 2016, 10:36 AM

It's so sad that iTunes' influence on the charts is declining. This forum pretty much grew with the download era. The chart definitely needs tweaking somehow.

Posted by: Mart!n 13th September 2016, 10:51 AM

I only just realised James Arthur is #3 its been awhile since I've been on LPB. Since when has he became relevant.

Lady Gaga is probably coming for a top 20 entry.

I think the spotify updates are becoming more accurate lately, the download era is fast diminishing, something needs to be done

Posted by: jakewild 13th September 2016, 10:53 AM

i thought james arthur was problematic....? why are people even giving him the time of day

Posted by: Joe. 13th September 2016, 11:15 AM

Me too.. I'm a bit confused as to where his boost has come from.

Posted by: *Tim 13th September 2016, 11:16 AM

! DraggedT

Posted by: Herbs 13th September 2016, 11:40 AM

Because that was in the past and people have moved on.....

Posted by: Mateja 13th September 2016, 11:45 AM

The chart needs some sensible recurrency rules. That's the only thing that I can think of that would make sense. Tweaking the chart to decrease the impact of streaming and increase the impact of iTunes downloads doesn't make sense as streaming is growing and downloading is declining.

Posted by: Herbs 13th September 2016, 11:49 AM

They need to do something like not counting streams from playlists or only counting listens from paid members

Posted by: mdh 13th September 2016, 11:51 AM

I think they should only count the equivalent of one sale of streams by one person - that way there would no longer be a mishmash of buys and plays in the chart.

Posted by: Scene 13th September 2016, 11:54 AM

Oh no I didn't mean the chart should be tweaked in favour of downloads. I agree with your idea (there was a poster who also had a list of good ideas for how the chart should be altered). It's just a shame that now streaming is taking off, it's a lot harder for new acts to break through. It's almost as if the Spotify playlists dictate what is popular. Maybe a brand new prime time music show should coexist with this chart format? Idk I'm just thinking out loud.

Posted by: JosephStyles 13th September 2016, 11:56 AM

Guys may I please direct you to the streaming discussion thread for this? Thanks http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=192007

Posted by: omrimayo 13th September 2016, 12:08 PM

James number 2 combined (Even if Calum is combined) that's insane.

Posted by: jakewild 13th September 2016, 12:10 PM

hope his streaming is terrible

what a douche

Posted by: omrimayo 13th September 2016, 12:12 PM

He's 139 :|

Posted by: Houdini 13th September 2016, 12:17 PM

Yeah it is but that's how the charts are now I'm afraid. Years ago I used to care a lot about which songs were at #1 or which songs were in the top 10 but now if something that I don't like is at #1 then it wouldn't bother me at all. The charts are dead in my opinion now.

Posted by: jakewild 13th September 2016, 12:20 PM

🙌🏼

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 12:21 PM

Looking at the latest from Kworb James should overtake DJ Snake/ Bieber soon with his top version.

It's odd how well its doing; but I guess people are willing to give a second chance, listen and like it enough to buy.

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th September 2016, 12:40 PM

Who knew in the week that was meant to be all about Gaga has turned into James Arthur coming for #1!

Posted by: jakewild 13th September 2016, 12:51 PM

lol who would've thought he'd be outperforming gaga. think it says more about how bad her single is if anything tho

Posted by: Bjork 13th September 2016, 01:17 PM

nope, Calum has 3 versions in the top 100

combined
1 Chainsmokers 1.00
2 Calum scott 62.87
3 James Arthur 61.04
4 DJ Snake 58
5 Sia 52

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 01:26 PM

22. Years and Years

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 01:26 PM

Up 60 (ish) places from yesterday

Posted by: Mango 13th September 2016, 01:29 PM

Yeah the Pro Green track doesn't sound very commercial, more like a buzz track. And with a title like 'Back On The Market' it's obviously aimed at ex-wife Millie


I know, how dare people download his song on the merit of its musical quality instead of the kind of person he is/was

Posted by: pippa 13th September 2016, 01:58 PM

I remain shcoked at the success of James Arthurs single. That said, i always welcome a shock success.

Posted by: jakewild 13th September 2016, 02:02 PM

he's just an all round unlikeable character tho. listening to his voice triggers me to his douchey attitude and I'm surprised it doesn't do the same to most other people

tho these are the same people that are keeping that callum scott in the top 5 so can't rly be shocked

Posted by: cqmerqn 13th September 2016, 02:03 PM

Omg at James Arthur!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 02:06 PM

I guess it depends whether or not you can give people a 2nd chance and accept they made a mistake; which judging from twitter and some interviews he has done, he knows he was a complete dick and seems genuinely shocked/ surprised that the song is doing as well as it has. He even said he was lucky it made it into the top 100 let alone going top 10.

I'm gay and don't see the point in continuing to dislike someone for comments made 3+ years ago and clearly at a time when he wasn't in a great place - if I did continue to do that, then I'd really be no better than James was at the time it all kicked off.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 02:07 PM

02. James Arthur // Say You Won't Let Go

Posted by: edneyguerra 13th September 2016, 02:07 PM

wow at years and years top 20 already

Posted by: jakewild 13th September 2016, 02:11 PM

how many chances do you give someone. he also slept with an underage fan dude 👀

((sorry for off topic))

Posted by: mdh 13th September 2016, 02:13 PM

Dark red update for Closer. James up to 2. I'm thinking he could push them to around 0.7 by tonight.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 13th September 2016, 02:25 PM

Well technically the fan was 17 and only underage given he was in the states had it happened in the UK then the underage part wouldn't even be a problem

I'm not even a fan tbh, but I just don't see the point in people harping on about stuff he clearly regrets over 3 years ago

Posted by: Scene 13th September 2016, 03:17 PM

Before anyone comes at me for comparing the two, I know it's not exactly the same but... Chris Brown begged forgiveness and tried to turn his image around in the couple of years after the Rihanna incident but that good boy image didn't last long once he got radio etc back on side. Fair play to James for actually managing to turn his career around (it is still early days yet though) but if he starts his **** again, I hope he doesn't get a third chance.

Posted by: pippa 13th September 2016, 03:23 PM

I would be all for second chances and i agree it is wonderful to see James turn his career around, at this stage it looks like he has a sizeable hit on his hands which will increase interest in his new album. I would like to believe he has learned from his mistakes and his apologies are genuine, for now i will give him the benefit of the doubt. If he goes down the same road again i would not be happy to have him back in the public eye as when he was bad he was awful, he said too many hurtful and nasty things about a lot of people.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 13th September 2016, 03:34 PM

I can't at that thing getting another hit Hate him and both his Impossible cover /that follow up top 2 single are two of my least favourite songs of all time

Posted by: Herbs 13th September 2016, 03:43 PM

I've liked all of James Arthurs singles. Particularly 'Recovery'. Starting to like the new song too

Posted by: Ne Plus Ultra 13th September 2016, 05:36 PM

I wish it was Leona getting this second wave of success instead. Or Alexandra.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 13th September 2016, 05:45 PM

17. Kanye West - Fade
19. Years & Years - Meteorite (From "Bridget Jones's Baby")
59. Professor Green - Back on the Market

Posted by: Cremey 13th September 2016, 05:57 PM

YES @ 'Fade' being so high

Posted by: pes 13th September 2016, 06:29 PM

Me too..never say never..btw James did not really have a proper flop or at least a comeback flop unlikely the two women you sayed

Posted by: mr_pmt 13th September 2016, 06:45 PM

I'd give anything for it to be Diana (although the fact she doesn't even make music anymore puts her at a *bit* of a disadvantage).

Posted by: T Boy 13th September 2016, 06:51 PM

Why are people ignoring the fact that we don't like James Arthur because his music is shit?

You'll be asking me to give Jessie J another chance next...

Posted by: Herbs 13th September 2016, 07:07 PM

Music is subjective. You are allowed to have that opinion. I loved his first album and am looking forward to the second

Posted by: girl_from_oz 13th September 2016, 08:24 PM

Janet Devlin has a single out in a few weeks, she's better then James Arthur

Posted by: Herbs 13th September 2016, 09:07 PM

Loved her first album

Posted by: Steve201 13th September 2016, 11:00 PM

Crank It has jumped to no80 with kworb showing 0-3% jump - has it not been available for a while now??

Posted by: Jason 14th September 2016, 01:00 AM

I'm so happy for James Arthur success. Totally deserved in my opinion, his new song is awesome.

Posted by: tommie 14th September 2016, 01:12 AM

i,m officially stannin 4 jams potato arther now that he,s a hit x

so much betta than laddy gags (who,s dat)

Posted by: jakewild 14th September 2016, 01:14 AM

quoting this for the history books

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th September 2016, 07:00 AM

49. Tove Lo - Cool Girl

Posted by: danG 14th September 2016, 07:27 AM

77. Gavin James - Nervous (The Ooh Song) (Mark McCabe Remix)

been doing alright on Spotify for a while now, coming for a hit?

Posted by: Bjork 14th September 2016, 07:42 AM

^it's today's TOTD on radio 1

Posted by: AcerBen 14th September 2016, 09:11 AM

It sounds like a smash to me

Posted by: ElectroBoy 14th September 2016, 09:31 AM

15. Lady GaGa // Perfect Illusion
48. Gavin James // Nervous (The Ooh Song: Mark McCabe Remix)

Posted by: jakewild 14th September 2016, 09:40 AM

the gaga freefall continues

v happy for ariana and y&y

Posted by: danG 14th September 2016, 10:35 AM

13. Kanye West - Fade surprised this is doing so much better than Famous on iTunes, but that's probably because it actually got released to iTunes while still playlised on Radio 1. It's not doing so well on streaming though.
18. Years & Years - Meteorite (From "Bridget Jones's Baby") was expecting this to do a bit better
41. Kungs - Don't You Know (feat. Jamie N Commons) disappointing that this isn't taking off even with 59p.
45. Gavin James - Nervous (The Ooh Song) (Mark McCabe Remix) still climbing, could see this being big
46. Tory Lanez - Luv good to see this and Cool Girl top 50 on iTunes now as well as Spotify, future top 40 hits I think
50. Tove Lo - Cool Girl

Posted by: Scene 14th September 2016, 10:59 AM

Same. At least if James can find success again with the right song, hopefully the above two can although I think Alexandra is completely unsigned these days which is a shame.

Posted by: Bjork 14th September 2016, 11:17 AM

in regards to that, James Arthur is sign up to Sony Germany? I mean why not Sony UK?

Posted by: AcerBen 14th September 2016, 11:38 AM

All that means is that Columbia Germany are calling the shots in producing the album. It'll be Columbia UK who are managing the promotion in the UK.

Impossible was a big hit in Germany - and many other parts of the world too.

Posted by: gooddelta 14th September 2016, 12:03 PM

Hmm, seems weird that Gavin James will probably end up being a dance one hit wonder in the UK, when he's actually a well respected and popular singer-songwriter in Ireland! Nice to see Mark McCabe charting here though with something, shame Maniac 2000 never got a release despite being one of Ireland'a biggest selling singles ever.

Posted by: Bjork 14th September 2016, 12:30 PM

yes love Gavin James too, great singer-songwriter, they've been trying to push a couple singles on R1 while this was already charting on Spotify but nothing has done anything so guess thats the only way for him to have a hit right now... I really liked his Book of Love song

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th September 2016, 12:37 PM

10. Ellie Goulding - Still Falling For You
48. Tove Lo - Cool Girl (What is the highest this got on release day?)

Posted by: Joe. 14th September 2016, 12:44 PM

I would have thought you would be the one to ask...

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th September 2016, 12:48 PM

But seriously, I think it did crack the top 40 at some point, just not sure on its peak.

Posted by: Joe. 14th September 2016, 12:52 PM

This thread might help you - www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=185406&st=340

Posted by: JosephStyles 14th September 2016, 12:52 PM

I'd recommend having a look back through the iTunes thread of the week it came out if you're not sure! I'm not 100% but I seem to remember it getting low top 40 on iTunes, like #39 or so.

EDIT: Joe beating me

Posted by: Bjork 14th September 2016, 01:01 PM

if i remember well Cool Girl climbed itunes very slow on release day and spent a couple days in the 35-40 section peaking at 35

Posted by: edneyguerra 14th September 2016, 01:05 PM

The Y&Y song is played on the movie?
I was hoping for a top 10

Posted by: Bjork 14th September 2016, 01:19 PM

movie opens this weekend

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th September 2016, 01:26 PM

Thanks guys

Yeah the film should give boosts for both Ellie and Y&Y. I could imagine the latter getting a bigger boost due to it being newer.

Posted by: Bjork 14th September 2016, 01:40 PM

Twenty one pilots are #4 in the US with a newie, a cover of Cancer from My Chemical Romance, is this out in the UK?

Posted by: edneyguerra 14th September 2016, 01:51 PM

YAY. Abd I guess they are doing promo on bcc dscing with the stars
And vídeo is coming out next week

Posted by: Hadji 14th September 2016, 02:25 PM

I really wish that that Kanye dross would stop climbing. On the plus side, at least "One Dance" is falling again

Posted by: mdh 14th September 2016, 03:35 PM

The new twenty one pilots is their worst yet. Oops.

Kideko climbing into the top 100 as a result of an advert (can't remember what for), and it's good to see Nervous (The Ooh Song) picking up some momentum - I remember when that song didn't exist anywhere on the internet apart from Spotify

103. M83 - Go! (feat. Mai Lan)

BJSC impact

Posted by: mr_pmt 14th September 2016, 03:45 PM

I love this SO much! I had no idea it was even in with a shout of doing anything, I thought it was a low key single from their album that fell under the radar months ago.

Posted by: SevenSeize 14th September 2016, 03:47 PM

266 DB Boulevard - Point of View

^ anyone know why this classic has popped back up? <3

Posted by: AcerBen 14th September 2016, 05:04 PM

Played on R2 Breakfast this morning

Posted by: Tombo 14th September 2016, 10:39 PM

Yay at James Arthur being number two, I have been a big fan of him since the show

Posted by: Ethan 14th September 2016, 10:42 PM

Posted by: Jonjo 14th September 2016, 10:53 PM

The UK have great TOP taste *.*

Just a random TOP post:

08. 'Heathens'
67. 'Stressed Out'
74. 'Ride'
353. 'Car Radio'
472. 'Can't Help Falling In Love With You'
588. 'House Of Gold'
1000. 'Lane Boy'
1397. 'Guns For Hands'

I'm sure these were higher at some point, but it's the first time I've done a quick Twenty One Pilots search (I was actually hoping to see if their cover of My Chemical Romance's 'Cancer' was available/appeared - which I'm not sure if it is) and SO happy to see GFH and CHFILWY are in the top 1500, particularly!

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 15th September 2016, 01:31 AM

475. twenty one pilots - Cancer

Posted by: buzz_person 15th September 2016, 04:47 AM

Yes, it's played after Ellie's song at the end credits.

Posted by: cqmerqn 15th September 2016, 07:46 AM

09. Ellie Goulding - Still Falling For You

Posted by: Jonjo 15th September 2016, 09:18 AM

Oh and there we go haha!

Edit: now up to #56! *.*

Posted by: Bjork 15th September 2016, 10:08 AM

james arthur big update
almost 0.80 when combined

Posted by: Dmdr 15th September 2016, 11:01 AM

Looks like he has started to get radio play, both Heart and Capital have given it a couple of spins.

Posted by: danG 15th September 2016, 11:05 AM

35. Gavin James - Nervous (The Ooh Song)

this still climbing it seems.

37. Kungs - This Girl
38. Kungs - Don't You Know

Kungs almost ready to overtake himself!! Not even top 200 on Spotify though so it'll struggle to chart officially.

49. twenty one pilots - Cancer

really another single already? though it seems this isn't for a new album or anything

Posted by: Bjork 15th September 2016, 11:17 AM

it's a cover of a my chemical romance track for a tribute album

Posted by: AcerBen 15th September 2016, 11:41 AM

Being on either Heart or Capital is really going to help. Don't think Radio 1 will touch it but it won't matter.

Posted by: Bjork 15th September 2016, 11:48 AM

I'd say R2 will be on board too

Posted by: BillyH 15th September 2016, 12:05 PM

Wonder if Mark McCabe's Maniac 2000 could finally be a UK hit if his Gavin James remix goes big! Maybe as a 'Maniac 2016' update...

Posted by: cqmerqn 15th September 2016, 12:19 PM

08. Ellie Goulding - Still Falling For You

Is this actually gaining or is it just due to the fact that the songs above it are falling lots?

Posted by: JosephStyles 15th September 2016, 12:20 PM

Have a look on Kworb! http://kworb.net/popuk/ (yes it has been gaining today!)

Posted by: cqmerqn 15th September 2016, 12:23 PM

Thanks, Kworb isn't working for me which is really odd. Anyway, thanks! I'm glad it's gaining as it will also get a boost from the film tomorrow

I really hope they discount it too.

Posted by: RobBob 15th September 2016, 12:25 PM

Wow, 'Cancer' looks like it'll be as joyous as the rest of their output.

Posted by: cqmerqn 15th September 2016, 03:27 PM

07. Ellie Goulding - Still Falling For You

IT'S COMING FOR A NEW PEAK

Posted by: Herbs 15th September 2016, 03:34 PM

Ellie Goulding needs to do a James Arthur!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 15th September 2016, 04:00 PM

You mean release a good song

Posted by: T Boy 15th September 2016, 04:16 PM

When is he planning on doing that?

Posted by: Houdini 15th September 2016, 04:18 PM

So which song has gained the most/been most purchased today?

Posted by: JosephStyles 15th September 2016, 04:20 PM

The links are in post 1 for you to find out!

Posted by: Houdini 15th September 2016, 04:29 PM

So is it the songs in green on kworb that are gaining the most? if so then it looks like it's James Arthur's song that has gained the most. It will probably be #1 on iTunes by the end of next week.

Posted by: timjimlee 15th September 2016, 04:32 PM

Unless Calvin Harris gets there beforehand...

Posted by: JosephStyles 15th September 2016, 04:32 PM

^ or Emeli Sandé!

Posted by: Houdini 15th September 2016, 04:39 PM

I forgot Emeli Sande even existed, she was EVERYWHERE in 2012

Posted by: mdh 15th September 2016, 04:40 PM

Is there anything out tomorrow apart from Éméłí Sánðé and Calvin?

Oh, and where do we think the above two will reach on iTunes/get to in next weeks chart?

Posted by: Houdini 15th September 2016, 04:47 PM

Calvin Harris could record audio of himself sneezing for 5 minutes flat and it would go to number one on iTunes, so number one is where he will be on iTunes. I don't know about the Official chart though, it seems like anything goes in that chart nowadays, I barely pay attention to it myself.

Emeli Sande could get top 10 on iTunes possibly but probably end up at number 93 on the Official made up chart.

Posted by: Hadji 15th September 2016, 04:48 PM

And 2013. One Direction stopped her from doing a Simply Red. What I mean by that is that they stopped her from having best selling album of the year 2 years in a row

Posted by: TheSnake 15th September 2016, 04:52 PM

What is James Arthur doing back? Never thought I would see him getting another hit....

Posted by: cqmerqn 15th September 2016, 04:54 PM

I'd imagine Emeli will be higher than Calvin on iTunes, but that all depends on who is featured!

Emeli: #3
Calvin: #5

Posted by: Bjork 15th September 2016, 05:03 PM

I'd say Calvin will be #1 in 5 nano-seconds

Posted by: Houdini 15th September 2016, 05:04 PM

I don't just mean the charts, in 2012 she was always on TV and even performed in the London Olympics closing ceremony. I was beginning to think maybe she retired from music or something.

Posted by: mr_pmt 15th September 2016, 05:07 PM

I'm sorry but...

Posted by: mdh 15th September 2016, 05:54 PM

I'd hazard a guess that Emeli and Calvin will take up the iTunes top 2 - it's inevitable Calvin will do well [and on streaming] and the curiosity buys for Emeli are bound to be big. Hopefully the public can get behind both songs - it's about time we had some new stuff in the top 5.

Posted by: TheSnake 15th September 2016, 06:47 PM

I think that meteorite song is my favourite Years and Years track. Better than my previous favourite Shine and miles better than the awful King

That Fade track by Kanye is great...great funky dance tune, doesn't sound like any of his other tunes...official entry to top 40 this week, I hope so.

The James Arthur one is terrible imo Just a bad John Legend style track. Not a patch on the great YNTSLY.

Posted by: Jonjo 15th September 2016, 06:52 PM

36. OneRepublic - Kids

Really hope this can climb higher and become an actual hit! Brilliant song.

37. Twenty One Pilots - Cancer

Yayyy! Such a great version of the song. #3 in the US behind Chainsmokers and themselves! Their US success never ceases to amaze!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 15th September 2016, 06:58 PM

To be fair I do like Ellie, just not the last album

I was just being a bitch...

I can't see Emeli doing anything big - is there any hype there?

Posted by: Rob S 15th September 2016, 07:00 PM

Emeli is the live lounge guest for tomorrow performing the song Very fast off the bat promo there

Posted by: Mart!n 15th September 2016, 07:09 PM

Christine & The Queens are on the One Show on BBC1 tomorrow

Posted by: cqmerqn 15th September 2016, 07:27 PM

Guess who's performing on The Jonathon Ross show tomorrow?!

None other than Olly Murs!

Posted by: mdh 15th September 2016, 07:29 PM

You Don't Know Love is becoming the 2016 equivalent of Black Magic in terms of live performances.

Posted by: Jonjo 15th September 2016, 07:30 PM

Omg. Not Olly Murs doing his 2nd big TV performance.

How dare he promote and try to make a song of his become a bigger hit!!!!

Posted by: omrimayo 15th September 2016, 07:32 PM

So exited about tomorrow!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 15th September 2016, 07:50 PM

Yeah I've checked out too

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 15th September 2016, 07:54 PM

Prediction of Olly Murs' final chart run:

23-34-30-32-35-19-31-27-15-12-39-7-48-82-5-63-2-1-OUT

Posted by: mdh 15th September 2016, 07:59 PM

i don't get it, what do you mean

Posted by: Jonjo 15th September 2016, 08:04 PM

Serious question time...

Why is it bad for a popstar to be promoting a single on TV shows? Especially only their 2nd, TV performance! :\ Idgi.

Posted by: JosephStyles 15th September 2016, 08:06 PM

Yeah promotion is never a bad thing, it's only natural for someone to want people to hear their songs! (although I think at this stage, I'm finding You Don't Know Love's chart performance kinda amusing, it's not totally happening even with all the pushes they're giving it oops)

Posted by: mdh 15th September 2016, 08:06 PM

It's not bad, it's just that whenever Olly does some promo he shoots back up the chart leading to his bizarre chart run which is somewhat of a joke among a few - hence Pete's joke about his chart run.

Yeah and what Joseph said, they are trying really hard to make it a hit :,)

Posted by: danG 15th September 2016, 08:11 PM

because it gives them an unfair advantage over artists who don't get to promote themselves on TV(??)

but yeah it doesn't make Olly Murs or his label desperate, I'm sure people would be moaning just as much if Olly didn't do any TV appearances!!

Posted by: Joe. 15th September 2016, 08:12 PM

Love Me Like You had A LOT more performances tbh.

Posted by: Steve201 15th September 2016, 10:45 PM

The fact that the Olly song falls away easily enough after the promo shows that it's not impacting with the general public.

Posted by: cqmerqn 15th September 2016, 10:49 PM

Exactly - whereas the songs that were promo'd a lot (Black Magic as previously suggested) generally benefited from the promo and could actually stabilise. It's sad to see Olly underperform though.

Posted by: JosephStyles 15th September 2016, 10:50 PM

A good chunk of Black Magic's performances came because it was such a big hit anyway I think - both X Factor performances last year and the BRITs!