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post Aug 30 2020, 03:21 PM
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DRAG RACE ULTIMATE VILLAINS RATE


Howdy! We've threatened promised to drop another big rate for a while, and here it finally is!

As we're all aware by now, our dolls help to make Drag Race as a franchise very dramatic, with each season having one, two, or more infamous stirrers or girls with their own game plan or agenda. Between shady editing, backstabbing, intimidation, tactical voting and/or generally being a pain, many queens have become best known among the fandom for their villainous moments - with some becoming loved and some reviled for their actions, or as Tati would say, choices.

We've gone through all 19 (!) western seasons (1-12, AS 1-5, UKS1 & CANS1) of the show, and now have for your voting pleasure our top 45 picks of villainous queens, based on shocking moments in the show or their perception or persona within the fandom. Getting it out of the way upfront, we discussed in mod chat and, because we felt she would win in a landslide, we've decided not to include S12's disqualified queen in this rate this time.

We're looking for you to score the queens based on how good a villain they are here, not how nice a person they are. For example, if you think Rebecca Glasscock is the biggest backstabber the show's ever seen, and actually you didn't mind Detox, you'd give Rebecca a higher score and Detox a lower one. The queen with the highest score once the scores are all counted up will have the dubious honour of being the biggest villain in the franchise - so make sure to give your faves low scores!

Please score each queen from 1 to 10. As we've got 45 queens here, we'll let you have three 11s each, and two -1s each for the two queens you think least deserve to be on this list. 11s and -1s are not mandatory. Please no 0s as they just complicate counting up at the end!

We'll leave this open for at least two weeks, which takes us to mid-September. May the worst woman win!

Your Evil Queens:
Akashia
Rebecca Glasscock
Tyra Sanchez
Raven
India Ferrah
Mimi Imfurst
Carmen Carrera
Venus D-Lite
Delta Work
Manila Luzon
Raja
Willam
Kenya Michaels
Phi Phi O'Hara
Serena ChaCha
Roxxxy Andrews
Coco Montrese
Jade Jolie
Detox
Alaska
Laganja Estranja
Darienne Lake
Milk
Gia Gunn
Violet Chachki
Ginger Minj
Jasmine Masters
Acid Betty
Derrick Barry
Alexis Michelle
Aja
Valentina
Eureka
The Vixen
Aquaria
Miz Cracker
Silky Nutmeg Ganache
Ra'jah O'Hara
Aiden Zhane
Brita
Gigi Goode
The Vivienne
Baga Chipz
Kyne
Ilona Verley
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post Aug 30 2020, 05:01 PM
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Is this a collection of queens who got an evil edit on the show? I don’t remember half of them being considered “villains” lol
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So (hypothetically, not necessarily my opinions xo) how this works is you'd give Silky who you dislike a 10 for being a great villain, and give Manila who you love a 2 for being a weak villain?
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09 Akashia
06 Rebecca Glasscock
10 Tyra Sanchez
02 Raven
09 India Ferrah
10 Mimi Imfurst
10 Carmen Carrera
03 Venus D-Lite
09 Delta Work
03 Manila Luzon
03 Raja
10 Willam
00 Kenya Michaels
10 Phi Phi O'Hara
10 Serena ChaCha
09 Roxxxy Andrews
-01 Coco Montrese
03 Jade Jolie
-01 Detox
09 Alaska
10 Laganja Estranja
10 Darienne Lake
08 Milk
10 Gia Gunn
09 Violet Chachki
02 Ginger Minj
03 Jasmine Masters
10 Acid Betty
10 Derrick Barry
04 Alexis Michelle
10 Aja
10 Valentina
11 Eureka (despicable)
01 The Vixen
03 Aquaria
10 Miz Cracker
10 Silky Nutmeg Ganache
11 Ra'jah O'Hara (but in an iconic way)
05 Aiden Zhane
09 Brita
11 Gigi Goode sick2.gif
09 The Vivienne
08 Baga Chipz
10 Kyne
-1 Ilona Verley

I love some villains but can’t STAND some others so kinda confusing- I gave 2 villains 11s cos I don’t like them but one queen an 11 because I think she’s an iconic villain
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v confused on how voting works cos I love some of them as villains for how great TV they make but hate others for making unwatchable TV so voted on how villainous I think they are
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how's Gigi Goode a villain :confused:
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QUOTE(Addy!(By Demand) @ Aug 30 2020, 07:02 PM) *
how's Gigi Goode a villain :confused:

she was absolutely a villain in my eyes oops. To Heidi for sure, she vilified by social media for supposedly trying to cheat the finale. (and also wasn’t likeable in the slightest but i’m aware that’s not everyone’s opinion)
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QUOTE(George.keh @ Aug 30 2020, 07:14 PM) *
she was absolutely a villain in my eyes oops. To Heidi for sure, she vilified by social media for supposedly trying to cheat the finale. (and also wasn’t likeable in the slightest but i’m aware that’s not everyone’s opinion)


Hmmm thinking.gif

I suppose but I guess I have a different understanding of what villain is (I look at the different perspective, a villain to me is someone who is mean to her competitors and sabotaging them directly is one way or the other i.e. Phi Phi O'Hara, Raven, Tyra etc. etc.)

Actually I could say the same about half of the people on the list so in the end it's not just about Gigi!!!
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post Aug 30 2020, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew. @ Aug 30 2020, 06:14 PM) *
So (hypothetically, not necessarily my opinions xo) how this works is you'd give Silky who you dislike a 10 for being a great villain, and give Manila who you love a 2 for being a weak villain?


Correct!
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QUOTE(ITz Cody 🧨 @ Aug 30 2020, 06:01 PM) *
Is this a collection of queens who got an evil edit on the show? I don’t remember half of them being considered “villains” lol


Or who were considered such by some portion of the fandom during their run on either their season or AllStars
for ex. Milk was lovely on her first season and absolutely awful on AS3!
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This is a strange one 🤣
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QUOTE(Addy!(By Demand) @ Aug 30 2020, 07:02 PM) *
how's Gigi Goode a villain :confused:


Liam and I were split on including Gigi but bc she was divisive I decided to do so in the end and you have -1s if you think she doesn't deserve it wink.gif
also 45 was a nicer number than 44 for a rate
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QUOTE(J00psyMethyd @ Aug 30 2020, 07:36 PM) *
Liam and I were split on including Gigi but bc she was divisive I decided to do so in the end and you have -1s if you think she doesn't deserve it wink.gif
also 45 was a nicer number than 44 for a rate


no worries dear,

I also want to add that any of the questions I asked, I did not mean it in a way to discourage and take away the fun from the game wub.gif
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05 Akashia
02 Rebecca Glasscock
07 Tyra Sanchez
11 Raven
02 India Ferrah
-1 Mimi Imfurst
04 Carmen Carrera
01 Venus D-Lite
07 Delta Work
10 Manila Luzon
10 Raja
11 Willam
05 Kenya Michaels
08 Phi Phi O'Hara
01 Serena ChaCha
07 Roxxxy Andrews
07 Coco Montrese
06 Jade Jolie
10 Detox
11 Alaska
08 Laganja Estranja
04 Darienne Lake
05 Milk
05 Gia Gunn
07 Violet Chachki
10 Ginger Minj
03 Jasmine Masters
08 Acid Betty
08 Derrick Barry
04 Alexis Michelle
09 Aja
08 Valentina
06 Eureka
02 The Vixen
10 Aquaria
10 Miz Cracker
01 Silky Nutmeg Ganache
02 Ra'jah O'Hara
01 Aiden Zhane
03 Brita
08 Gigi Goode
05 The Vivienne
06 Baga Chipz
03 Kyne
03 Ilona Verley


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I can't possibly give someone like Silky (who I hated) a good villain rating because while she certainly was a villain she was an awful one. I like my villains to be entertaining even if they're annoying.

xx Akashia
xx Rebecca Glasscock
06 Tyra Sanchez
08 Raven
04 India Ferrah
07 Mimi Imfurst
08 Carmen Carrera
04 Venus D-Lite
09 Delta Work
03 Manila Luzon
03 Raja
10 Willam
01 Kenya Michaels
11 Phi Phi O'Hara
01 Serena ChaCha
08 Roxxxy Andrews
02 Coco Montrese
01 Jade Jolie
07 Detox
09 Alaska
01 Laganja Estranja
05 Darienne Lake
10 Milk
11 Gia Gunn
02 Violet Chachki
06 Ginger Minj
01 Jasmine Masters
03 Acid Betty
04 Derrick Barry
06 Alexis Michelle
06 Aja
11 Valentina
08 Eureka
10 The Vixen
06 Aquaria
02 Miz Cracker
-1 Silky Nutmeg Ganache
07 Ra'jah O'Hara
05 Aiden Zhane
06 Brita
01 Gigi Goode
08 The Vivienne
06 Baga Chipz
05 Kyne
01 Ilona Verley

My ones are mostly those I don't remember being villains at all. It's hard to give a rating here because it's so hard to distinguish between the hated to hate and loved to hate categories laugh.gif I don't remember S1 at all so I have no idea how to rate Akashia and Rebecca.
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Your Evil Queens:
5.0 Akashia
9.0 Rebecca Glasscock
8.0 Tyra Sanchez
7.0 Raven
6.5 India Ferrah
6.0 Mimi Imfurst
8.0 Carmen Carrera
4.0 Venus D-Lite
6.5 Delta Work
5.0 Manila Luzon
7.5 Raja
11 Willam
4.5 Kenya Michaels
10 Phi Phi O'Hara
5.5 Serena ChaCha
7.5 Roxxxy Andrews
-1 Coco Montrese
2.0 Jade Jolie
5.0 Detox
7.0 Alaska
6.0 Laganja Estranja
8.0 Darienne Lake
7.5 Milk
11 Gia Gunn
8.5 Violet Chachki
1.0 Ginger Minj
5.0 Jasmine Masters
9.0 Acid Betty
8.5 Derrick Barry
8.0 Alexis Michelle
9.0 Aja
11 Valentina
9.5 Eureka
7.5 The Vixen
6.0 Aquaria
2.0 Miz Cracker
9.5 Silky Nutmeg Ganache
9.0 Ra'jah O'Hara
5.0 Aiden Zhane
8.0 Brita
6.0 Gigi Goode
10 The Vivienne
-1 Baga Chipz
10 Kyne
8.0 Ilona Verley


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06 Akashia
10 Rebecca Glasscock
11 Tyra Sanchez
04 Raven
08 India Ferrah
02 Mimi Imfurst (hard to judge - certainly deluded but I don't think she was really bad-intentioned)
09 Carmen Carrera
10 Venus D-Lite
05 Delta Work
04 Manila Luzon
08 Raja
10 Willam (absolutely a villain and absolutely incredible for it)
-1 Kenya Michaels
11 Phi Phi O'Hara
09 Serena ChaCha
07 Roxxxy Andrews
05 Coco Montrese
08 Jade Jolie
09 Detox
09 Alaska
04 Laganja Estranja
04 Darienne Lake
06 Milk
10 Gia Gunn
06 Violet Chachki
06 Ginger Minj
01 Jasmine Masters
10 Acid Betty
10 Derrick Barry
09 Alexis Michelle
04 Aja
06 Valentina
11 Eureka
-1 The Vixen
03 Aquaria
07 Miz Cracker
10 Silky Nutmeg Ganache
08 Ra'jah O'Hara
01 Aiden Zhane
08 Brita
09 Gigi Goode
10 The Vivienne
04 Baga Chipz
07 Kyne
06 Ilona Verley
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09 - Akashia
10 - Rebecca Glasscock
10 - Tyra Sanchez
09 - Raven
08 - India Ferrah
09 - Mimi Imfurst
09 - Carmen Carrera
07 - Venus D-Lite
08 - Delta Work
01 - Manila Luzon
02 - Raja
07 - Willam
05 - Kenya Michaels
11 - Phi Phi O'Hara
09 - Serena ChaCha
10 - Roxxxy Andrews
10 - Coco Montrese
08 - Jade Jolie
01 - Detox
02 - Alaska
03 - Laganja Estranja
10 - Darienne Lake
10 - Milk
10 - Gia Gunn
01 - Violet Chachki
02 - Ginger Minj
03 - Jasmine Masters
10 - Acid Betty
09 - Derrick Barry
09 - Alexis Michelle
01 - Aja
-1 - Valentina
10 - Eureka
09 - The Vixen
02 - Aquaria
06 - Miz Cracker
11 - Silky Nutmeg Ganache
09 - Ra'jah O'Hara
09 - Aiden Zhane
11 - Brita
-1 - Gigi Goode
01 - The Vivienne
09 - Baga Chipz
10 - Kyne
09 - Ilona Verley
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Good to see such a good spread so far! Feel free to discuss on in the thread too

I thought I knew who my winner would be but I completely forgot about Eureka who I can't stand ohmy.gif
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Yeah, I've added some high scores tactically even though they're far from being 'villain'...making things more interesting kink.gif
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