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 Eurovision Song Contest 2019 · Grand Final, Sat 18th May 8pm UK/Ireland, 9pm CET, 10pm Israel |
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 22nd May 2019, 07:09 PM
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So the Belarus jury vote is no more?
I’m actually cackling though at this error because it’s EY who do the audit of the voting process and I work for a competitor firm. All we did was hand out the wrong envelope, not f*** up the entire contest voting |
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22nd May 2019, 07:11 PM
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Not to mention it would have been Netherlands vs North Macedonia in the final seconds of the voting. Which of course wouldn’t have been as big a climax as it was obvious the latter wasn’t going to get a huge televote score.
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22nd May 2019, 07:11 PM
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Why change fake votes with new fake votes? This totally ruines my favourite moment of Eurovision 2019, when Norway beat Sweden and came top 5.
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22nd May 2019, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ May 22 2019, 08:09 PM)  So the Belarus jury vote is no more? I’m actually cackling though at this error because it’s EY who do the audit of the voting process and I work for a competitor firm. All we did was hand out the wrong envelope, not f*** up the entire contest voting Why it wasn’t audited immediately is bizarre. Any viewer could see that the Belarus jury voted for the complete opposite of everyone else, that really didn’t raise any eyebrows to them that the data might have been the wrong way round? 
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22nd May 2019, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bré @ May 22 2019, 06:07 PM) Looking on Wikipedia after this apparently there was also an issue with one of the Czech jurors voting in reverse in the semi-final which meant Poland should have qualified over Belarus. Not Eurovision having a BJSC esque scandal xx Omg I just saw this too. This is a mess. I love both Zena and Tulia but Poland deserved to qualify for sure! 
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22nd May 2019, 07:59 PM
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Oh what a mess
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22nd May 2019, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(gooddelta @ May 22 2019, 08:13 PM) Why it wasn’t audited immediately is bizarre. Any viewer could see that the Belarus jury voted for the complete opposite of everyone else, that really didn’t raise any eyebrows to them that the data might have been the wrong way round? That’s the thing, it was audited at the time makes it funnier for me. Shame it won’t even get 1% of the publicity of our Oscars f*** up |
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22nd May 2019, 09:04 PM
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Given the way the Belarus "jury vote" was calculated, I cannot understand how not a single person noticed the huge anomaly that was Israel's twelve points.
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22nd May 2019, 09:48 PM
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What an absolute dog's dinner and massive embarrassment for Israel hosting.
But really, a representative vote from their Pot is neither here nor there. Belarus' jury should have been fully disqualified, with no jury vote from them and only televotes alone. In the past, jury votes have been used when televoting failed - so why can't the opposite be applied in this case? Really poor  As for other jurors ranking incorrectly - they all get a clear brief, if they screw it up and their score has been accepted then that's just the way it is. The same thing happens in all competitions, you can't retrospectively 'change' your marks, who's to say said juror hasn't just seen the result and cried mistake? This post has been edited by Jacky boy: 22nd May 2019, 09:49 PM |
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23rd May 2019, 04:38 AM
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Is this like the most controversial Eurovision in its history?
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23rd May 2019, 04:51 AM
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The Ukraine/Russia conflict in 2017 were more controversial imo. When it comes to voting, this is probably the most controversial since Norway's voting in Eurovision 1964.
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23rd May 2019, 05:49 AM
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If Belarus jury votes had been disqualified altogether, they'd have been at a slight advantage of having the ability to receive points from all juries and then not give them out themselves. I think the best option would've been just to... not disqualify the jury. Or have backup jurors.
How on earth are they going to sort out the DVD edition before it comes out... incorrect scoring, a different jury winner, and Madonna has also uploaded a video of her performances with re-dubbed vocals
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23rd May 2019, 09:55 AM
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They should have a couple of back up juries made up of people from a variety of countries in case any get disqualified.
Though they have been making up San Marino's televote for years. |
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23rd May 2019, 10:09 AM
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San Marino having a made up televote is a real joke, I don't get why they don't just double the scores given by the jury if there's really no way to get a legit televote from them.
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23rd May 2019, 11:35 AM
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lol I googled 'San Marino' to find out its population and I lowkey love how the first three results are of a takeaway with San Marino in the name, followed by people asking 'Why is San Marino a country?'
 And THEN come results about country facts! |
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23rd May 2019, 12:12 PM
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I looked the other day... it literally has less of a population than my home town !
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23rd May 2019, 12:41 PM
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At least it saved NORTH Macedonia the humiliation of being revealed last and having that 10 minute wait only to get 50 points from televoting.
A joke anyway, and a joke its taken 5 DAYS LATER to resolve!! |
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23rd May 2019, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ May 23 2019, 12:41 PM) At least it saved NORTH Macedonia the humiliation of being revealed last and having that 10 minute wait only to get 50 points from televoting. A joke anyway, and a joke its taken 5 DAYS LATER to resolve!! At lease she would have taken it better than John Lundvik did (not that I blame him). Her reaction to the televote score was kind of sweet actually while it was tough to watch John’s reaction. This post has been edited by cantthinkofaname: 23rd May 2019, 01:04 PM |
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23rd May 2019, 01:38 PM
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I can't see how they can't NOT reform the jury system next year, starting with an increase in jurors to at least 10-15.
But very embarrassing for the EBU, it was obvious to everyone watching live on the night how dodgy the Belarusian vote was. |
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23rd May 2019, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(AdamAloud @ May 23 2019, 01:38 PM) I can't see how they can't NOT reform the jury system next year, starting with an increase in jurors to at least 10-15. But very embarrassing for the EBU, it was obvious to everyone watching live on the night how dodgy the Belarusian vote was. Especially given how one voter from Czechia voting incorrectly made it so that Poland should have qualified over Belarus. One juror should not hold that much power. |
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