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 12th June 2024, 10:31 AM
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Hmmm I want to think Williams will keep improving but it seems to be a case of 1 step forward 2 steps back for them. Albon and Sainz would be a very strong driver line-up for a backmarker team though, probably the best since McLaren with Alonso and Button 2015-16 (although not quite on that level obviously).
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12th June 2024, 10:48 AM
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Yeah it will be a strong team.
If Sauber can get someone on Hulkenberg's level as well, it might make for an interesting race for the backend points next year! |
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12th June 2024, 11:14 AM
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Sauber need to give Theo Pourchaire a look in, criminally overlooked so far for an F2 champion which usually guarantees you a seat. Bottas is over the hill now and Zhou just isn't good enough so I'd get rid of both at the end of the season.
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12th June 2024, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(Dobbo @ 12th June 2024, 12:14 PM)  Sauber need to give Theo Pourchaire a look in, criminally overlooked so far for an F2 champion which usually guarantees you a seat. Bottas is over the hill now and Zhou just isn't good enough so I'd get rid of both at the end of the season. Agreed on getting rid of both at the end of the season. |
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12th June 2024, 01:49 PM
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If Williams manage to sign Sainz, that would be one hell of a coup for the team at the moment. Even if they have him for only 1 or 2 seasons.
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12th June 2024, 02:10 PM
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hope it's not true, would be a major step down for Sanz
they were talking about Sanz going to Red Bull, Audi, Merc so would be disappointed if all he can get is Williams, one of the worst cars atm |
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Saturday, 10:57 AM
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This is a site I always use to monitor how penalties will play out (I occasionally gamble) I think it’s useful
https://www.f1-fansite.com/2024-f1-season/2...ents-gearboxes/ |
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Saturday, 10:30 PM
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Those Leclerc and Stroll incidents in practice were very bizarre but it just goes to show you can literally get away scott free with any problematic driving if it's a practice session.
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Sunday, 10:18 AM
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Flav is back 🤩
And both Alpines in Q3 🙌🏻 Just wait. Tuned mass damper 2.0 is incoming |
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Sunday, 03:23 PM
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FFS - I’m a Hulkenberg fan and he has now finished in 11th in 5 of the last 7 Grand Prix….
Will watch the highlights on YouTube - doesn’t sound like a thriller but looks like it has some good moments Now Lando is taking the fight to Verstappen and Perez is nowhere near, this will help the idea that it is Max who is excelling, rather than it just being the car Great to see it so close at the top though |
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Yesterday, 07:49 AM
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^but the car is 100% designed for Max
it was an amazing race with so many highlights, mostly involving Russell, his start was crazy, it's been a while since I've seen a start like that, and how he passed Lando and Max... and then later in the race when he was fighting with Lando, it was crazy on the negative side, Ferrari seems to have lost steam, same for Aston Martin who is now evn behind Haas and Alpine |
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Yesterday, 08:20 AM
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Russell cost Norris the victory. Norris is up there with Max but he has been very unlucky with how races play out.
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Yesterday, 08:56 AM
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What costed the victory to Norris was not that
it was the poor strategy-making by McLaren stopping Norris so late, they left Norris 8 laps on the track after Verstappen stopped, which gave Max the key advantage to win the race. McLaren has an amazing car but they lack the strategy expertise. |
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Yesterday, 10:00 AM
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Norris cost himself the victory. If you make a mess of the start and get swamped like that there's no-one else to blame. Verstappen's start wasn't that great either but he still bet Lando to the line. Russell's start was good and he used the slipstream to his advantage.
The most interesting thing right now is there's no clear best car out there, even if the Red Bull is probably the best all-rounder, largely due to how kind it is on the tyres, but the McLaren is surely the fastest, especially on a lighter fuel load and handles better generally. Ferrari and Mercedes are not too far behind - circuit dependent. Catalunya is a traditionally strong circuit for Red Bull but only Max seems capable of extracting the best out of the car, and he's no fan of its handling this year either, yet a perfectly decent driver like Perez is showing how difficult it is to handle. The Red Bull is clearly a very good car but exists on a knife edge for top performance and it takes a special driver to deal with it. There are definite echoes of the 1994 and '95 Benetton around the RB20. |
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Yesterday, 10:22 AM
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Surely it does mean another Norris victory is imminent (would also like to see a 2nd win for Russell)
And I don't buy the whole idea that Max dominates because the car is built just for him. Perez is showing himself up and you can't put that fully down to the team. |
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Yesterday, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(Herbs @ 24th June 2024, 11:22 AM) Surely it does mean another Norris victory is imminent (would also like to see a 2nd win for Russell) And I don't buy the whole idea that Max dominates because the car is built just for him. Perez is showing himself up and you can't put that fully down to the team. Agreed, Newey's been designing cars to be as quick as he can for his entire career and never before has he built one around a specific driver's style. The argument also ignores the fact Verstappen was on pace the moment he stepped in to a Red Bull, one whose design had been an ongoing project from before he joined. It would not be cost effective and counter productive for the team anyway. Additionally if you look at Pre-season testing you'll tend to notice that Perez and Verstappen begin the year with similar times (Max is usually slightly quicker to be fair) and this follows in to the opening races, but once Max gets a handle on the car the gap between them widens noticeably and then by the latter half of the season Perez starts to get to grips with it himself and it closes up again. Verstappen just has a more adaptable and intuitive driving ability as well as being naturally quick. None of his previous teammates have ever suggested there was any kind of handicap given to them either. The gaps between the two are similar to those we've seen before between say, Senna and Berger, Mansell and Patrese, Alonso and Raikkonen, Hamilton and Kovalainen etc. but nobody ever made similar claims back then. it's just one driver is much more capable. |
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Yesterday, 12:13 PM
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it's not the car is made for Max, it's more like the car is so much different from what Perez like, that he has to adapt a lot, and struggles
Perez has driven all his life with the grip in the back, so if you put him in a car with the grip in the front, he's gonna struggle Max always has driven with the grip on the front, so no problem aapting. |
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