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 Dec 20 2019, 04:40 PM
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Charged by the CPS here in the UK in her absence so she'll have to be extradited. Sky saying Trump can use his Presidential Executive powers to stop an extradition but let's hope he doesn't do that.
Hope we all agree that she shouldn't get away with this. Let's hope we can get her back. A US woman will be charged with causing the death of teenage motorcyclist Harry Dunn by dangerous driving. Mr Dunn, 19, died in a road crash in Northamptonshire in August that led to suspect Anne Sacoolas leaving for the US under diplomatic immunity. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said it had started extradition proceedings through the Home Office. The US State Department said it did not believe the decision was "a helpful development". Mr Dunn's mother Charlotte Charles said the family was "relieved" Mrs Anne Sacoolas had "finally" been charged but there was still a long way to go" This post has been edited by Crazy Chris-tmas: Dec 20 2019, 04:42 PM |
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Dec 20 2019, 04:42 PM
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It's very, very rare for the US to allow its citizens to be deported to be tried for crimes in other countries.
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Dec 20 2019, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 20 2019, 04:42 PM)  It's very, very rare for the US to allow its citizens to be deported to be tried for crimes in other countries. Yes Michael that's exactly what Sky's legal correspondent says, that Trump will probably block it, as he can block any extradition as President, but they're also saying would that look good in an election year, letting her get off scot free? Also would it help the UK-US special relationship? This post has been edited by Crazy Chris-tmas: Dec 20 2019, 04:46 PM |
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Dec 20 2019, 04:46 PM
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Reported from the US that Mrs Anne Sacoolas will "resist and fight extradition."
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Dec 20 2019, 07:10 PM
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Someone on DS said "I'd put the chances of her ever appearing in a British court about the same as Corbyn fighting the next election"
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Dec 21 2019, 05:49 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 20 2019, 04:46 PM) Reported from the US that Mrs Anne Sacoolas will "resist and fight extradition." It shouldn't even be necessary - the moral anguish of having killed someone should have been enough to turn herself in... |
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Dec 21 2019, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 21 2019, 05:49 AM) It shouldn't even be necessary - the moral anguish of having killed someone should have been enough to turn herself in... Yes I agree and she should come over here voluntarily now and hand herself in at a police station and face the music. It was an accident as she was on the wrong side of the road. No-one's saying she meant to kill him so it's manslaughter. Her lawyers will oppose extradition on the grounds that she won't get a fair trial now due to all the publicity. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris-tmas: Dec 21 2019, 09:06 AM |
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Dec 21 2019, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 21 2019, 08:59 AM) Yes I agree and she should come over here voluntarily now and hand herself in at a police station and face the music. It was an accident as she was on the wrong side of the road. No-one's saying she meant to kill him so it's manslaughter. Her lawyers will oppose extradition on the grounds that she won't get a fair trial now due to all the publicity. Barmy - it's not like we're some Third World dictatorship! |
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Dec 21 2019, 09:59 AM
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She should be treated like everyone else here if she's done wrong!
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Dec 21 2019, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(ChristmaSteve201 @ Dec 21 2019, 09:59 AM) She should be treated like everyone else here if she's done wrong! Well she will be if we ever get her here. Could take months or even years with appeals. |
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Dec 21 2019, 10:29 AM
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IMO the whole concept of diplomatic immunity is decidedly iffy.
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Dec 21 2019, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 21 2019, 10:29 AM) IMO the whole concept of diplomatic immunity is decidedly iffy. The concept is perfectly reasonable. It is to allow diplomats to perform their job without interference from repressive regimes. However, its sweeping nature (to avoid endless discussions about what is covered and what is not) allows people to avoid perfectly reasonable laws and means that countries like the US owe millions of pounds in unpaid parking fines and the London congestion charge. |
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Dec 21 2019, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 21 2019, 09:17 AM) Barmy - it's not like we're some Third World dictatorship! Weeeellllll now that you mention it... |
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Dec 21 2019, 12:24 PM
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Should she appear in court in the UK? Absolutely.
Will she? Not a chance. |
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Dec 21 2019, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Dec 21 2019, 12:24 PM) Should she appear in court in the UK? Absolutely. Will she? Not a chance. I agree unfortunately. |
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Dec 21 2019, 09:17 PM
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It's a joke like!
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Dec 22 2019, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 20 2019, 04:42 PM) It's very, very rare for the US to allow its citizens to be deported to be tried for crimes in other countries. Lets do a deal - if the US doesn't extradite her, they don't get Assange! 
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Dec 22 2019, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 22 2019, 07:21 AM) Lets do a deal - if the US doesn't extradite her, they don't get Assange! Or any trade deals. Oh and they can close all their air bases here too and take their personnel and nuclear missiles home. |
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Dec 22 2019, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 22 2019, 07:56 AM) Or any trade deals. Oh and they can close all their air bases here too and take their personnel and nuclear missiles home. That's OTT - Assange should be more than enough! |
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Dec 22 2019, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 22 2019, 08:27 AM) That's OTT - Assange should be more than enough! Yep just been checking and his full extradition hearing's in February so good timing really. |
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