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 Feb 9 2020, 04:43 PM
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Two Sinn Fein TDs elected so far, largely because they only had one candidate in the constituency so that one candidate got all of SFs first preference votes. Apart from that and the speaker, the only other thing to have happened is that a few candidates have been eliminated.
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Feb 9 2020, 05:03 PM
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So as expected, Sinn Fein's Paul Donnelly beat Leo Varadkar in the Dublin West count and so he becomes the fourth TD elected for SF so far. Varadkar fell short of the quota by only 248 votes so he should be safely through too.
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Feb 9 2020, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Feb 9 2020, 04:33 PM)  We have a habit of doing things like that. As another example, we wrote Germany's constitution leaving the country far less centralised than the UK. I know it's strange then how FPTP is ok for the Uk! |
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Feb 9 2020, 05:47 PM
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My seats predictions:
Fianna Fáil 42-46 SINN Fein 34-38 Fine Gael 35-41 Labour Party 4-7 Social Democrats 4 PBP 2-4 Greens 5-9 Independents 12 Aontú 1 This post has been edited by Steve201: Feb 9 2020, 07:05 PM |
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Feb 9 2020, 05:53 PM
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David Culliane won a whopping 21k votes in Waterford, coulda had 3 SF TDs there instead of just 1!
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Feb 9 2020, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Feb 9 2020, 05:53 PM) David Culliane won a whopping 21k votes in Waterford, coulda had 3 SF TDs there instead of just 1! Yes, 38.3% of the first preference vote there, way more than needed! That's going to make for an interesting second count with such a large surplus. |
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Feb 9 2020, 06:38 PM
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Didn't see the other stats but SF would transfer to Greens, SD, PBP and Labour and exceptionally Fianna Fáil!
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Feb 9 2020, 06:49 PM
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The SF candidate in Dublin South-Central did even better, getting 39.3% of the first preference votes! A massive lead over the rest of the candidates, the one Finn Gael candidate there came second with 11.7%.
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Feb 9 2020, 08:13 PM
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It'll be interesting to see what happens, prob in SFs interest to stand out especially since Varadkar has ruled out a coalition with SF so it'll be FG & FF.
Can't see the rainbow left coalition having enough to form a government. |
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Feb 9 2020, 09:35 PM
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Both SF candidates in Donegal have been elected in the first round
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Feb 9 2020, 10:50 PM
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Pearse Doherty is basically who they're chancellor would be in a SF government so his seat was fairly safe, the second TD elected without needing any transfers is impressive.
Turning into a great election this!!!! |
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Feb 10 2020, 01:44 AM
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With all 39 constituencies having produced a first count now, Sinn Féin had 24.5% of the first preference votes with Fianna Fáil on 22.2% and Fine Gael on 20.9%.
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Feb 10 2020, 08:43 PM
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Sinn Fein and the Greens are the only two parties to increase their share of FP votes since the last election. Everyone else's vote collapsed or fizzled out. Even Independents got a hammering. Shane Ross losing his seat was delicious. Even Zappone might lose her seat which is actually a shame because as far as Independents go she was one of the better ones. Time will tell with that but she may lose to the Greens on transfers.
Definitely an election to remember and transfers played a key role. Also amazing to see the far-right vote was 1% in total and even Immigration was listed as a concern among just 1% of voters. Housing, Health and Climate were the issues at play and the main parties just couldn't grasp that, which is insane because the public + media have been screaming about them from the rooftops for years. |
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Feb 10 2020, 08:46 PM
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With fourteen seats to go, it is looking like it will be impossible for any combination of two parties to form a majority government. It is already certain that Fine Gail and Fianna Fail will win fewer than half the seats between them.
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Feb 10 2020, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Cal @ Feb 10 2020, 08:43 PM) Sinn Fein and the Greens are the only two parties to increase their share of FP votes since the last election. Everyone else's vote collapsed or fizzled out. Even Independents got a hammering. Shane Ross losing his seat was delicious. Even Zappone might lose her seat which is actually a shame because as far as Independents go she was one of the better ones. Time will tell with that but she may lose to the Greens on transfers. Definitely an election to remember and transfers played a key role. Also amazing to see the far-right vote was 1% in total and even Immigration was listed as a concern among just 1% of voters. Housing, Health and Climate were the issues at play and the main parties just couldn't grasp that, which is insane because the public + media have been screaming about them from the rooftops for years. Zappone has indeed lost her seat! |
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Feb 10 2020, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Feb 10 2020, 08:46 PM) With fourteen seats to go, it is looking like it will be impossible for any combination of two parties to form a majority government. It is already certain that Fine Gail and Fianna Fail will win fewer than half the seats between them. Mary Lou looking firstly to the left of centre parties such as the SDs, Greens & PBP to form a coalition. |
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Feb 10 2020, 09:09 PM
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Shame about Zappone but not entirely surprising. I think the National Childcare Scheme she introduced was a good idea but it was too little too late.
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Feb 10 2020, 10:38 PM
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2020 general election: Dublin South-Central[30][31]
Party Candidate % Count 1 Count 2 Count 3 Count 4 Count 5 Count 6 Sinn Féin Aengus Ó Snodaigh 39.3 17,015 Solidarity–PBP Bríd Smith[n 1] 11.0 4,753 9,547 Green Party Patrick Costello 9.3 4,041 4,449 4,522 4,698 6,917 8,582 Inds. 4 Change Joan Collins 6.5 2,831 4,578 5,076 5,552 6,654 7,807 Fine Gael Catherine Byrne 11.7 5,078 5,192 5,202 5,275 5,788 7,431 Fianna Fáil Catherine Ardagh 11.0 4,782 5,013 5,030 5,184 5,598 Labour Party Rebecca Moynihan 4.8 2,095 2,330 2,375 2,491 Social Democrats Tara Deacy 3.7 1,595 1,921 2,006 2,181 National Party Serina Irvine 1.5 632 770 801 Independent Richard Murray 0.5 207 420 512 Independent Alan Kerrigan 0.3 146 241 257 Independent Robert Foley 0.2 78 114 121 Independent Sean O'Leary 0.1 38 57 71 Electorate: 79,460 Valid: 43,291 Spoilt: 515 (1.2%) Quota: 8,659 Turnout: 43,806 (55.1%) |
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Feb 10 2020, 10:42 PM
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This seat above has a lot of figures showing Dublin South Central and how transfers meant that SF took People Before Profit, Greens and independent left candidates over the line ahead of Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil!
Elected - SINN Fein, People Before Profit, Greens & Unity Leftist candidates even though FG & FF had more first preferences. Yes a central Dublin seat so sympathetic to leftists but a good example of how transfers worked wonderfully. |
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Feb 11 2020, 12:10 AM
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All 160 seats have now been filled at last!
Fianna Fáil have 38 seats, Sinn Féin have 37, Fine Gael only 35, there are 19 independents, 12 for the Green Party, 6 for Labour, 6 for the Social Democrats, 5 for Solidarity–People Before Profit, 1 for Aontú and 1 for Independents 4 Change. |
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