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Posted by: Jonjo 27th March 2018, 09:58 AM
Little Mix and their 4th album 'Glory Days', have spent 69 weeks in the top 40 (so far) making it a record for girl group albums!
Their fourth album Glory Days, originally released in November 2016, has notched up the most weeks in the Official Albums Chart Top 40 of *any* girlband in chart history – yep, that's right. They have overtaken legends like Spice Girls and the Supremes to take their place at the top of the all-time rundown of weeks spent in the Top 40, notching up an incredible 69 weeks to date.
Upon release, Glory Days went straight in at Number 1 to become the band's first chart-topping album, spending five non-consecutive weeks there over the next few weeks. It's notched up an incredible 29 weeks in the Top 20, and spent a year straight in the Top 40 before dropping out for just one week before zooming back into the Top 10.
Tying on 63 weeks are two huge Nineties girlbands, Spice Girls and Eternal. Spice Girls' debut Spice was a true phenomenon, spending 15 weeks at the top over six months and managing 63 consecutive weeks in the Top 40, the most for any girlband ever, with all singles going to Number 1. Its follow-up Spiceworld also had a lengthy run – 48 weeks to land in seventh.
Eternal's debut Always & Forever, shockingly, was denied the Number 1 spot, but still managed to spend almost six months in the Official Albums Chart Top 10, and rack up 63 total weeks in the Top 40.
The oldest album on our countdown comes next, and is something of a chart curiosity – it's the hits retrospective from Motown icons Diana Ross and the Supremes. This greatest hits album spent three weeks at Number 1 after its release in January 1968 and lined up 57 straight weeks in the Top 40, but a quirk of the chart which saw it reduced to a Top 15 and fluctuate in length for much of 1969 means it's officially shown as dropping out of the top flight and reappearing only a couple of times before the Official Albums Chart was established and became more standardised, giving its total weeks as 60.
Another Nineties debut, from All Saints, is next. The self-titled album also didn't reach Number 1 – a travesty! – but it did rack up 23 weeks in the Top 10, 48 consecutive weeks in the Top 40 and amassed a total of 58 across its chart run, spawning three Number 1 singles along the way. Rounding off the Top 5? Little Mix again! Third album Get Weird from 2015 has notched up 55 weeks in the Top 40.
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Destiny's Child's The Writing's on the Wall was the band's second album and, incredibly, peaked at Number 10, spending a solitary week there, but it's still manged to notch up 50 weeks on the Top 40. Also flying the flag for the US is Pussycat Dolls' debut PCD, on 47 weeks in ninth place, while our very own Sugababes' sophomore effort, 2002's Angels With Dirty Faces, racked up 35.
The Top 10
01. Little Mix - Glory Days | 69 Weeks
02. Spice Girls - Spice | 63 Weeks
03. Eternal - Always & Forever | 63 Weeks
04. The Supremes - Diana Ross & The Supremes: Greatest Hits | 44 Weeks
05. All Saints - All Saints | 58 Weeks
06. Little Mix - Get Weird | 55 Weeks
07. Destinys Child - Writing's On The Wall | 50 Weeks
08. Spice Girls - Spiceworld | 48 Weeks
09. Pussycat Dolls - PCD | 47 Weeks
10. Sugababes - Angels With Dirty Faces | 35 Weeks
Posted by: Jonjo 27th March 2018, 10:03 AM
Shiiit. Can someome move this to Little Mix forum please? (Or keep it here coz I can copy and paste lmao)
Oops.
Posted by: Joe. 27th March 2018, 10:12 AM
I moved it from LM forum to the chart forum as there was already a thread in there. Most chart news gets shared here anyway so I thought it's best not to waste a thread!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 27th March 2018, 10:21 AM
Good achievement, I am pleased for them. Shame the album itself is absolute hogwash.
Posted by: Jonjo 27th March 2018, 10:39 AM
I think it's good to point out that Little Mix are there with their 3rd and 4th albums. Not their debut or sophomore efforts (or a greatest hits)! That's amazing.
Posted by: 777666jason 27th March 2018, 10:59 AM
Tbf as great as it is get weird is still their best for me
Posted by: Simon. 27th March 2018, 01:22 PM
They only have this due to today’s album climate surely 
Posted by: Joe. 27th March 2018, 01:41 PM
Surely it's even harder to do in today's album climate?
Posted by: shindymindy 27th March 2018, 02:46 PM
That's what I was about to say
Posted by: Jonjo 27th March 2018, 02:46 PM
It's still managed to maintain so many weeks hugher than so many other albums, that even if sales were higher, their sales would be too. It's not like every other album would sell 10k copies more as their sales stay put at 4k for example
Posted by: T Boy 27th March 2018, 02:55 PM
I can sort of see the argument tbh. Albums fly in and out quickly these days but if you’re a massive star, you’re destined to hog the top 40 for ages. Little Mix are still popular and even did a rerelease. If you take Spice for example, it was released at a time when there were more massive albums about. It also sold in massive numbers in its first weeks.
Posted by: 777666jason 27th March 2018, 03:06 PM
Tbf glory days opened to massive numbers (by today's standards) and also released in the busy q4 period when most of the massive albums are released so it kinda renders your point obsolete
Posted by: Joe. 27th March 2018, 03:07 PM
I mean, I don't think anyone is even suggesting they're as big as Spice Girls were but go off. It's still a really impressive accolade however you look at it. Their album has almost hit 1 million sales which is pretty much unheard these days, let alone for a female pop act in 2018. They're clearly one of the most successful pop acts of the past decade and this is an impressive record they've managed, it's not just something they got by default it's come from hard work and smash hit single after smash hit single. So I don't see why it should be undermined.
Posted by: T Boy 27th March 2018, 03:10 PM
I’m not trying to undermine the achievement, I’m just saying I get where that other poster was coming from, and it wasn’t such a wtf out of nowhere statement some of you were making it out to be.
Posted by: Joe. 27th March 2018, 03:15 PM
But saying "Little Mix got this because they're massive" is kind of the point, they're massive so their album has spent ages in the top 40. I think only Ed Sheeran spent longer there from the past two years. Regardless of what albums sell now compared to back in the day, a top 40 placing is worth the same in terms of their place in the music market and overall popularity.
Look at Bruno Mars, for example, he's still a huge worldwide star and some big hits off his album but Little Mix released at the same time and still outsold his album by miles.
Posted by: JosephSprayberry 27th March 2018, 03:24 PM
I don't really think today's album climate has anything to do with longevity - every album is affected by low sales, it's across the board. Little Mix's album has been much more of a slow burner than Spice, thanks partly due to the continued impact of the singles well over a year after the release (while Spice had two pre-album singles and the campaign was over less than 6 months after the album's release). Obviously Spice was a bigger smash sales-wise and culturally but it's not hard to see why Glory Days has had more longevity!
Posted by: Joe. 27th March 2018, 03:31 PM
No girl group will ever reach the heights Spice Girls did, but I'd say in terms of overall consistency and longevity, Little Mix are the biggest girl group the UK has seen.
Posted by: Bré 27th March 2018, 05:45 PM
Did it just take the OCC 6 weeks to notice this or is there some reason it was posted this week in particular?
It's not directly comparable to 'Spice' etc. but this is still an undeniably impressive achievement no matter the circumstances.
Posted by: Tombo 27th March 2018, 06:05 PM
Well done, that is an awesome achievement for the girls!
Posted by: GTH 27th March 2018, 06:55 PM
It's not directly comparable to 'Spice' etc. but this is still an undeniably impressive achievement no matter the circumstances.
Yeah I was thinking that. Surely by this point just wait another week to see if they hit 70.
Posted by: diamondtooth 27th March 2018, 07:25 PM
Well done to them! And to do it n their 4th album is really impressive.
However I am sad they took the record from Eternal (who I LOVE).
Eternals album had the same number of weeks in the top 10 as Spice (which is what this tread is about) so in my view Eternal and Spice Girls were joint No.1 before Little Mix came and topped them both.
Posted by: Simon. 27th March 2018, 07:26 PM
I get that, I was seeing it as more that there seems to be less competition. When you look at the album chart it’s literally all albums that have been out for years. Wasn’t coming for Little Mix I love all the singles from the albums bar Shout Out.
Posted by: vibe 27th March 2018, 07:44 PM
How many sales are LM behind ?
Posted by: Jonjo 27th March 2018, 10:12 PM
Behind what?
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=208524
There's LM sales.
Posted by: Mack. 27th March 2018, 10:15 PM
Quite an remarkable achievement. Well done to them.
Posted by: reissus123 28th March 2018, 12:42 AM
Only because the album was repackaged. In its original form if fell 31-46 on its 53rd week in the albums chart, prior to its repackage.
Posted by: Seinfeld 28th March 2018, 01:17 AM
It's still a remarkable achievement. So proud of me babbers!
Posted by: NellyEverySundae 28th March 2018, 02:07 AM
Yeah, I’ve never found it a sales’ climate issue really. It’s always been about the fact that there are fewer major album releases these days which means holdover albums (especially successful ones) can more easily stay in the top 100 as compared to last decade. It’s a huge achievement for sure but it can’t really be directly compared to chart runs from early to mid 00s.
Posted by: sammy01 28th March 2018, 03:04 AM
With streaming albums are lingering around the album chart a lot longer than before. People didn't stop playing 'Spice' or listening to it in early '98 when it fell out the top 40, it is just 3m people owned it and inevitably other albums were getting stocked over it. I'm sure thousands upon thousands of kids were still listening to 'Spice' on a weekly basis after it left the top 40 but they owned the cd and their listening to it didn't keep adding sales to its total like streaming would now.
Whilst it is great for them (Little Mix) I wonder how complimentary people will be when Ed starts setting records for longevity in the top 10 and 40?
I personally think streaming should count more towards the album chart but albums should get ACR'd after 1 year.
Posted by: Midge 28th March 2018, 04:42 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if Little Mix would've stayed top 40 on sales only or near enough... are they really highly streamed anyway?
Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th March 2018, 05:51 AM
^ Glory Days is the 9th most streamed album this week - the second oldest album in the streaming Top 10! Meanwhile it's #47 on sales, #46 on physicals and #98 on downloads.
2,378 sales / 66.48%, from streaming (#8: Official Albums Streaming Chart Top 100)
1,077 sales / 30.11%, from physicals (#53: Official Physical Albums Chart Top 100)
122 sales / 3.41%, from downloads (N/A: Official Album Downloads Chart Top 100)
1,119 sales / 69.89%, overall pure sales (#49: Official Albums Sales Chart Top 100)
It's safe to say that streaming is a huge factor in its ongoing success and being well within the Top 40!
Little Mix's longevity in this day and age is a great achievement directly in comparison to their peers. In that sense I'm impressed. However, when it comes to directly comparing them to girl group albums from different eras, I'm less impressed by the statistic. It's pretty futile comparing Glory Days to Spice, although this article does draw comparisons between them purely in terms of weeks spent in the charts. Which is fine in itself, but there is a bigger picture to consider i.e. different ways albums are consumed nowadays / how different the chart is in terms of sales climate/formats.
Personally I regard the 63 weeks achieved by Always & Forever and Spice respectively as being a more major achievement based on how things were back in the 90s, but that's just my opinion. Those albums had to attract new buyers each week (and 100% of those sales were achieved by people having to go to the shops to buy a physical copy). Glory Days = some people buying physical copies in shops, plus these 24/7 options that can be done from home: ordering physicals online + downloading copies + most crucially, a lot of the same people listening to the album on streaming services.
So yeah, to reiterate - purely in comparison to other albums from this era, Glory Days has done amazingly well. Extending the comparison to all-time, I'm not as blown away by the achievement.
Posted by: Joe. 28th March 2018, 09:56 AM
Whilst it is great for them (Little Mix) I wonder how complimentary people will be when Ed starts setting records for longevity in the top 10 and 40?
I know Spice Girls fans are very protective of their legacy but nobody has said this is a bigger achievement than Spice. It's great for a pop group, Little Mix's rise to huge stardom has been quite staggering.
And I don't know what Ed Sheeran has to do with this. He is a white male, making middle of the road, general public pleasing music so had a huge leg up in the industry, girl groups are non-existent and pure pop is dying off too, so it is a big achievement for Little Mix, and they're sales are nowhere near what Ed's are.
Posted by: Midge 28th March 2018, 10:23 AM
I had no idea Little Mix were so streamed - they seem to go against the grain, which I think is what makes the achievement so impressive in this era.
Posted by: vibe 28th March 2018, 11:11 AM
The sales do not compare to the legends that are the spice girls.
It hasn't even sold a million and has been repackaged.
Posted by: Joe. 28th March 2018, 12:42 PM
It hasn't even sold a million and has been repackaged.
Who has said that? Spice Girls were a once in a lifetime phenomenon, nobody is going to come close to that. I don't see why Spice Girls fans are seeing this very impressive accolade as an attack on their legacy.
Also, the album will easily sell a million soon, and I think only about 5 albums have made it to 900k+ sales in the past 2 years, so for one of those to be a girlgroup is huge.
Posted by: 777666jason 28th March 2018, 01:53 PM
Pfft spice girls legends na they were just in the released in the right climate
Posted by: sammy01 28th March 2018, 01:55 PM
And I don't know what Ed Sheeran has to do with this. He is a white male, making middle of the road, general public pleasing music so had a huge leg up in the industry, girl groups are non-existent and pure pop is dying off too, so it is a big achievement for Little Mix, and they're sales are nowhere near what Ed's are.
The article says 'overtaking legends like the Spice Girls' so yes the article is saying it is a bigger achievement than Spice.
As for Ed the OCC changed chart rules to stop him when he showed streaming, if not capped in some way, can turn the charts into a bit of a farce.
So to a lesser extent Little Mix have done the same, breaking a Spice Girls record thanks to streaming when they have sold less than 1/3rd of Spice.
Shape of you will become the biggest selling single of all time I'm sure, if you think it was bigger or had more impact than Band Aid or Candle in the wind then fair enough. If you don't then you will feel streaming is not putting achievements on a level playing field for artists of the past to current artists, which is my issue with this Little Mix record.
Posted by: Jack 28th March 2018, 02:54 PM
I swear Sammy brings up Ed Sheeran in literally every argument We get it hun, you like him!
Posted by: Andrew. 28th March 2018, 03:05 PM
How can Little Mix's album sales be compared with the Spices when one is inflated by streaming It's not even a comparison. Both have done amazing, but Spices are way out in front.
Posted by: JosephAvery 28th March 2018, 03:25 PM
It's not even a comparison. Both have done amazing, but Spices are way out in front.Nobody's comparing their album sales, that's the point of this thread, it's only regarding longevity within the top 40!
Posted by: sammy01 28th March 2018, 08:11 PM
We get it hun, you like him!I actually don't, he is just the biggest artist right now (with Drake) and obviously a huge streaming artist. I just tend to not feel bias against him. The OCC have come up with the 3 song rule and ACR to try and stop Ed and Drake's dominance over the charts. However artists like Little Mix (and Rihanna an artist I like) are getting to amass huge 'sales' through streaming that are dwarfing achievements of legends of the past. Needed me being platinum and Little Mix managing 69 weeks top 40 are just diminishing the achievements of past artists.
Going platinum used to be a huge thing, a song had to be a properly big hit to get a plat cert, now Rihanna can do that spending 1 week in the top 40. The Spice Girls had to get a different set of people go out and buy a 10 quid cd each week to get 63 weeks in the top 40, now Little Mix manage it by probably a very similar set of people listening to the album week in week out.
I'm not against streaming, I think it is the most important thing but the OCC need to cap a person to a single sale counting towards an album or single a year. 3 songs per album, ACR are just sticking plasters done as a show to stop Ed and Drake being too dominant but it is the #38 platinum single or the album selling less than 1m breaking Spice Girls record that are the real problem.
Posted by: Court 28th March 2018, 09:29 PM
I don't see why people are so upset and truly hurt over this. The Spice Girls held the record and Little Mix broke it. It's that simple. No one is saying that Little Mix is bigger than the Spice Girls. Its simply stating a fact. You can sit on here and cry about how streaming is ruining all the records that your old times faves should hold forever but it doesn't change anything. The record has been broken and considering that Glory Days is still in the Top 20, it will be interesting to see where the record stands when they finally leave the Top 40. People keep bringing up sales when that is clearly not what this record is about and literally no one has implied that Little Mix have outsold the Spice Girls. Its simply a testament to Little Mix's longevity that a girl group (and X factor act at that) can be breaking these records on their fourth album. Just congratulate them and move on. I doubt the Spice Girls themselves care that much about their record being broken so I don't understand why so many people on here seem to.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 28th March 2018, 09:42 PM
Little Mix are UTTER SHOOIIIITEE
TEERRRIBLE manufactured Cowell pop screamers. They don't have the record. They are artificially boosted by streaming and X Factor
Posted by: sammy01 28th March 2018, 09:53 PM
Because it is a charts forum and people on here care about the charts.
The OCC clearly haven't got a grip on streaming, they have moved goal posts, 100 ratio, 150 ratio, ACR, so yes it is ok to queston if the OCC's application of streaming sales is right and diminishing past achievements.
Posted by: Joe. 28th March 2018, 09:57 PM
Going platinum used to be a huge thing, a song had to be a properly big hit to get a plat cert, now Rihanna can do that spending 1 week in the top 40. The Spice Girls had to get a different set of people go out and buy a 10 quid cd each week to get 63 weeks in the top 40, now Little Mix manage it by probably a very similar set of people listening to the album week in week out.
I'm not against streaming, I think it is the most important thing but the OCC need to cap a person to a single sale counting towards an album or single a year. 3 songs per album, ACR are just sticking plasters done as a show to stop Ed and Drake being too dominant but it is the #38 platinum single or the album selling less than 1m breaking Spice Girls record that are the real problem.
I agree that going platinum for singles is sooooo easy these days but for albums it seems to be a lot harder, you have to have really captured the general public to go platinum in albums these days (i think like 10 albums have gone platinum in the past 18 months or so) whereas a 1x platinum album was often seen as underachievement back in the day for some artists.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 28th March 2018, 09:58 PM
It definitely is diminishing past artists' success. Drake and Beiber having like 100 weeks at no.1 between them with crap music all because of streaming!! They are artificial arbitrary figures - 100/ 150-1 because they say so.
Posted by: JosephAvery 28th March 2018, 10:00 PM
The OCC clearly haven't got a grip on streaming, they have moved goal posts, 100 ratio, 150 ratio, ACR, so yes it is ok to queston if the OCC's application of streaming sales is right and diminishing past achievements.
And none of that is relevant to the album chart, which this record is for. The goalposts haven't actually been moved once for album streams.
Posted by: Seinfeld 28th March 2018, 10:03 PM
TEERRRIBLE manufactured Cowell pop screamers. They don't have the record. They are artificially boosted by streaming and X Factor
Yada yada yada...
I'm laughing at all the Spice Girls stans getting their knickers in a twist over Little Mix breaking their "precious" joint record.
Posted by: Joe. 28th March 2018, 10:16 PM
Honestly, music success feels so uncertain right now, pop music is dying off. Albums aren’t selling. The singles chart is being produced largely by one Spotify Playlist. I feel like OCC don’t really know how to measure chart success and everything feels kinda in limbo. The fact Little Mix, who’re a type of artist who generally have a shelf life and chart odds stacked against them are continuing to flourish and thrive should be celebrated, even if goal posts have moved over the decades.
I think, even if the article accolades might seem triggering, Spice Girls fans need to calm down and realise that nothing will ever come close to the world domination they achieved - Not just for a girl group, but as artists in general. The fame, success and mania of Spice Girls in the 90s will never be matched by another pop group, no matter how much Little Mix continue to grow and smash records.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th March 2018, 11:27 PM
As a matter of interest, the Top 40 chart runs of previous record holders 'Spice' and 'Always and Forever', in comparison to record breaker 'Glory Days' -
Little Mix - 'Glory Days'
#1 peak: 5 weeks
Top 3: 13 weeks
Top 5: 13 weeks
Top 10: 29 weeks
Top 20: 65 weeks
Top 40: 69 weeks
[1st Entry: 25/11/2016] 01-01-03-03-02-01-01-01-02-03-03-03-08-07-06-08-08-11-12-15-13-10-14-11-13-17-16-09-15-11-14-14-11-09-09-12-12-09-13-13-13-12-15-11-17-24-20-13-20-24-31-31-out (52w)
[2nd Entry: 01/12/2017] 03-06-08-09-09-12-10-09-11-14-14-16-12-13-19-20-17... (17w)
Spice Girls - 'Spice'
#1 peak: 15 weeks
Top 3: 30 weeks
Top 5: 40 weeks
Top 10: 43 weeks
Top 20: 50 weeks
Top 40: 63 weeks
[Entry: 10/11/1996] 01-02-02-01-01-01-01-01-01-01-01-02-03-04-03-03-01-02-01-01-01-01-02-02-03-02-01-02-02-03-04-05-05-04-04-05-04-02-04-04-06-09-11-09-11-13-15-20-22-20-22-20-21-27-36-35-33-39-38-39-33-37-40-out (63w)
Eternal - 'Always & Forever'
#2 peak: 3 weeks
Top 3: 5 weeks
Top 5: 14 weeks
Top 10: 24 weeks
Top 20: 38 weeks
Top 40: 63 weeks
[1st Entry: 05/12/1993] 33-out (1w)
[2nd Entry: 02/01/1994] 25-24-11-09-16-20-22-27-35-out (9w)
[3rd Entry: 08/05/1994] 05-03-03-05-04-05-10-12-14-20-20-23-27-24-20-04-05-08-08-18-23-23-28-38-35-23-12-13-08-06-06-07-06-05-02-02-02-04-04-09-13-13-11-21-24-30-27-38-out (48w)
[4th Entry: 16/04/1995] 28-21-30-37-35-out (5w)
I didn't realise before this thread that 'Always & Forever' had achieved such longevity tbh! It's a shame that Eternal don't seem to be particularly well remembered (at least if BuzzJack's Ultimate Girl Groups Rate is anything to go by, haha).
Interesting to note that the album didn't achieve its peak of #2 until January 1995, which was after the fifth and final single from the album had been released ('Crazy' in December 1994, which reached #15 in the singles chart).
In the album's three weeks at #2 it was held off by The Beautiful South's 'Carry on Up the Charts - The Best Of'.
Another notable achievement is that 'Always & Forever' became the first girl group album to sell over a million copies in the UK, and it's certified 4 x Platinum.
Posted by: Court 29th March 2018, 12:00 AM
I did some research and it turns out that out of Glory Days' 69 weeks in the top 40 of the official chart, only 6 of those weeks was it out of the top 40 on the sales only chart. That would put it at 63 weeks if you take out the streaming factor which means that regardless of streaming, Little Mix would've still at least tied the Spice Girls' record.
Posted by: Jonjo 29th March 2018, 12:37 AM
I knew you'd come through with geek stats, Jay *.*
Ooi, what albums stopped the Spices from getting consecutive weeks? 
Yeahhh. 'Always & Forever' is a real revelation to me. They don't feel like they were ever THAT big to me haha. Ofc 'I Wanna Be the Only One' is still played on stations like Smooth and Heart etc.. (I think) and is their most remembered hit, but I had no idea their albums did anything
In fact, just looking at their tracklist for that album and I only know 'Just A Step From Heaven' from memory. So this album wasn't even the one with IWBTOO or 'Angel Of Mine' (meh, I might be alone in remembering (and loving) that one lmao)
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Thanks for looking that up court! I wonder if this was the real reason as to why OCC shared this information this week, coz it would've been the week where they tied on pure sales? Coz like Bré said, it seems like a really random week to suddenly announce that, when they broke it on the official chart 5 weeks ago..
Posted by: Court 29th March 2018, 12:52 AM
They've actually been out of the Top 40 on sales for the past few weeks (in addition to a few weeks last year right before the re-release). It is weird that they randomly announced it this week instead of a couple weeks ago when it happened and I can't think of any reasons why.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 29th March 2018, 02:11 AM
Ooi, what albums stopped the Spices from getting consecutive weeks?
I've just posted all the Top 5 albums charts that the Spice Girls featured in, here: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=203971&view=findpost&p=5962816 *.*
That's my favourite Eternal single!
It was their second best selling single as of January 2012, with 260,000 copies sold! Definitely deserved even more than that.I Wanna Be The Only One had sold 650,000 by May 2015. Funnily enough the album that single was taken from (their third album Before the Rain) wasn't a particularly big seller itself, 240,000 copies sold in 1997 (bearing in mind that Always & Forever sold around 1,200,000).
I've compared the 'Always & Forever' singles runs in comparison to how the album was performing in the same weeks. It's interesting that their popularity back in 1994 leaned more towards the album chart than the singles chart. Only one of the five singles released from it managed to become certified (Oh Baby I - silver). Note that their debut single 'Stay' had left the Top 100 singles chart by the time they released the album.
12-08-12-16-26-x [Save Our Love]
24-11-09-16-20... [Always & Forever]
12-11-09-08-10-16-23-34-x [Just A Step From Heaven]
82-51-05-03-03-05-04-05... [Always & Forever]
18-13-15-24-35-x [So Good]
20-04-05-08-08... [Always & Forever]
07-04-06-07-12-19-19-23-24-24-x [Oh Baby I]
23-12-13-08-06-06-07-06-05-02... [Always & Forever]
15-19-15-24-40-x [Crazy]
06-05-02-02-02... [Always & Forever]
So it was Just A Step From Heaven which really made the album take off! The album's 82-51-05 move up the chart was impressive. Also interesting to see that despite So Good only being a Top 15 hit, it helped the album climb back into the Top 5.
(Lmao... I truly geeked out with this post, soz x)
Posted by: Seinfeld 29th March 2018, 02:33 AM
I Wanna Be The Only One was on sales of 670k in March last year! 
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=199078&st=0&p=5653455&#entry5653455
Posted by: sammy01 29th March 2018, 04:41 AM
Which says a lot to me. Streaming has taken off hugely since it was added in to the album chart so maybe it needs a look at it.
I'd actually like an ACR for albums but also for albums streaming to count more before going to ACR. I think once an album hits 52 weeks on the chart it should go on ACR.
This would bring sales for albums more in line with the past. It would increase sales whilst the album was high up the chart and on intial release but give albums a more natural shelf life than currently where albums are spending years and years in the top 40 thanks to streaming.
Posted by: sammy01 29th March 2018, 04:55 AM
To add to that 17 of the current top 40 albums are 52 weeks or more on the chart and that is in a week with 7 new entries. On a week with less new entries I'm sure 50% of the top 40 albums will be at least a year old.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 05:42 AM
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=199078&st=0&p=5653455&#entry5653455
Urgh what is your super trashy signature
Posted by: VVIP 29th March 2018, 08:25 AM
This.
Posted by: Joe. 29th March 2018, 08:36 AM
Streaming doesn’t effect the album chart anywhere near to the amounts it does the singles chart, Little Mix’s pure sales are very strong for this day in age.
Well there we go.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 29th March 2018, 10:12 AM
TEERRRIBLE manufactured Cowell pop screamers. They don't have the record. They are artificially boosted by streaming and X Factor
You keep endlessly banging on about the supposedly being "Cowell's puppets", but objectively speaking I really don't think it's true. Over time they have really developed and established themselves in their own right, they've even been having a significant hand in the writing process of their own material for the past few years now as well.
Posted by: blacksquare 29th March 2018, 10:23 AM
Why not appreciate the fact a female pop group is managing to break records in 2018? They're an anomaly right now.
Spice Girls will always be Spice Girls.
Posted by: Seinfeld 29th March 2018, 01:44 PM
It's not even worth the effort with him tbh. He'll just ignore the facts and continue with his bullshit.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 01:51 PM
PLEASE change your trashy signature.
'Significant'? I doubt it.
Besides, all their nw music honestly sounds like it could be Spice Girls demos from the 90s ... if Spice Girls had only sung about love/ sex and not done FEMINIST songs instead.
Spice Girls dressed like this:
They didn't sell sex by dressing up in the skimpiest clothes they could find/ do endless gym/ sing about sex and nothing else. That is a HUGE difference between Little ix and SG.
Posted by: Jonjo 29th March 2018, 02:08 PM
'Significant'? I doubt it.
Besides, all their nw music honestly sounds like it could be Spice Girls demos from the 90s ... if Spice Girls had only sung about love/ sex and not done FEMINIST songs instead.
Spice Girls dressed like this:
They didn't sell sex by dressing up in the skimpiest clothes they could find/ do endless gym/ sing about sex and nothing else. That is a HUGE difference between Little ix and SG.
So get a grip and just stay out of Little Mix related topics when you add absolutely nothing new to the discussion with your biased opinions.
Edit: and we have 'Wannabe' (not as much), 'Say You'll Be There', '2 Become 1' & 'Holler' which are all about sex/wanting to get with someone for sex.
Stop singling LM out when literally every pop act does it.
Posted by: 777666jason 29th March 2018, 02:11 PM
Isn't 2 become 1 basically a song about getting it on
Posted by: T Boy 29th March 2018, 02:13 PM
It’s exactly that isn’t it? They even have a verse about putting on a condom.
I’m searching for a Little Mix song I’ve heard that’s all about sex....
Posted by: Jonjo 29th March 2018, 02:40 PM
Oops. I included SLS in Little Mix's songs above, but that's a love song, not a sex song. And, it is a love song for a new generation completely. One predominantly for the LGBTQ+ people and it's kind of a big deal with it's message.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 29th March 2018, 02:44 PM
Believe me, it is something I'm acutely aware of. Nobody can ever get through to him, ever.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 02:48 PM
Only Salute is empowering.
Songs like Touch, although I admit Touch is a bop, are just all about sex. They strip off in every video and look HORRENDOUS for doing so.
Posted by: 777666jason 29th March 2018, 02:53 PM
In what video do they actually strip off they dress pretty much like most young confident woman these days
Queen of peace more like Queen of b.s.
Little me and change your life are clearly empowering self help songs
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 02:55 PM
It's actually Queef*, thanks
Look at the Touch video for starters, or basically any other except Black Magic, which I am CONVINCED was an early, but too cheesy so they didn't use it, SG demo
Posted by: Dexton 29th March 2018, 02:55 PM
I’d be very surprised to find any female group in history that hasn’t gone for sex appeal at least once in their career
Or any male group for that matter
Posted by: 777666jason 29th March 2018, 03:04 PM
So basically what your saying is anyone wearing dresses or mini skirts is a stripper
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 29th March 2018, 03:06 PM
Which of course goes hand-in-hand with this pro-feminist stance he's trying to put across.
Posted by: sammy01 29th March 2018, 03:09 PM
Isn't this the song they filmed LGBT stuff for and didn't have the balls to release in the video?
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 03:09 PM
Seriously watch their videos if you think they're not overly sexualised. Spice Girls NEVER were. AND please remember their target audience. It is inappropriate.
Posted by: 777666jason 29th March 2018, 03:11 PM
2 become 1
Just look at the lyrics it's a song about sex how more sexiualised can you get
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 03:12 PM
Just look at the lyrics it's a song about sex how more specialised can you get
Safe sex*
They were promoting sexual responsibility in a time it was still taboo to talk about it.
Otherwise, nothing is sexualised. They are IN ANKLE-LENGTH WINTER COATS.
It's completely different.
Posted by: Joe. 29th March 2018, 03:13 PM
Look at the Touch video for starters, or basically any other except Black Magic, which I am CONVINCED was an early, but too cheesy so they didn't use it, SG demo
Little Mix are the first girl group to explicitly shout out to their LGBT fans on every single arena date of a huge tour. They also talk feminism and bullying in a lot of their songs too. They’re allowed to have a variety of other themes too, including sex.
Anyway this little chart stat caused quite the stir, didn’t it?
Posted by: sammy01 29th March 2018, 03:13 PM
Just look at the lyrics it's a song about sex how more specialised can you get
With a safe sex message and an edited version that didn't make it imply it was straight sex only they were referring too. That was so forward thinking for 1996.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 03:15 PM
THIS
You can GUARANTEE that the Spices would have been a Lady gaGa for gay rights had they come about even in the mid 2000s, let alone 2016
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 29th March 2018, 03:16 PM
They were promoting sexual responsibility in a time it was still taboo to talk about it.
Otherwise, nothing is sexualised. They are IN ANKLE-LENGTH WINTER COATS.
It's completely different.
So in your mind women should completely cover their legs and arms?
I guess also be chained to the cooker/sink etc?
Posted by: T Boy 29th March 2018, 03:16 PM
Victoria totes wore that catsuit in SYBT to ensure everyone knew she wasn’t being sexually alluring. Same with most of Geri and Mel B’s outfits. And that’s also why Emma always had her legs out.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 03:17 PM
I guess also be chained to the cooker/sink etc?
No.
Please see their videos/ seinfield's signature.
You'll see Little Mix using the age-old tactic of sex sells when Spice Girls NEVER did and dressed in coats.
That is a HUGE difference and shows how much bigger Spices were to be able to do that and not rely on sexiness to sell or get promotion.
Posted by: 777666jason 29th March 2018, 03:19 PM
They were promoting sexual responsibility in a time it was still taboo to talk about it.
Otherwise, nothing is sexualised. They are IN ANKLE-LENGTH WINTER COATS.
It's completely different.
20th century
Little mix are 21st look at Beyonce lady gaga Pink Katy Perry or nearly any female artist not called Adele and you would find at least one video as you would put over sexiualised
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 29th March 2018, 03:21 PM
Please see their videos/ seinfield's signature.
You'll see Little Mix using the age-old tactic of sex sells when Spice Girls NEVER did and dressed in coats.
That is a HUGE difference and shows how much bigger Spices were to be able to do that and not rely on sexiness to sell or get promotion.
It shows that we now thankfully live in an age where women are able to feel comfortable and confident expressing themselves in such a way that shouldn't be degraded (or $l*t-shamed) for it.
Funnily enough, Melanie C made a really disappointing remark basically degrading them for their choice of clothing in a similar way. Very much in line with the whole 'girl power' thing.
Posted by: 777666jason 29th March 2018, 03:22 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=spice+girls&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&dcr=0&prmd=niv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO9png6pHaAhVILMAKHSbbCvQQ_AUICigC&biw=360&bih=564#imgrc=ErneWp3ktWzlaM:&isa=y
Oh look even spice girls used the sex sells gimmick
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 03:24 PM
Funnily enough, Melanie C made a really disappointing remark basically degrading them for their choice of clothing in a similar way. Very much in line with the whole 'girl power' thing.
She's right.
They're puppets to a man, Simon Cowell, who tells them what to do and how to do it.
They then COINCIDENTALLY dress EXTREEEMELY provocatively with EXTREMELY provocative dancing. i'm sure I've seen a photo on the internet where one of them has a wardrobe malfunction with their clutch hanging out? That's how extreme their costumes are.
It goes AGAINST girl power. You can empower women and girls without degrading yourself to a Barney Stintston Instagram sex object at every opportunity.
Posted by: Queef of Peace 29th March 2018, 03:24 PM
Oh look even spice girls used the sex sells gimmick
?
That is literally high fashion.
Posted by: Evil Houdini 29th March 2018, 03:26 PM
They definitely like talking about sex in public that's for sure! This is just one of many of these type of videos that are on youtube. They even talking explicitly about jizz!
#RoleModels #TheLittleMixWay
Posted by: JosephAvery 29th March 2018, 03:28 PM
Think we all need a time out
Posted by: Joe. 29th March 2018, 03:41 PM
They were promoting sexual responsibility in a time it was still taboo to talk about it.
Otherwise, nothing is sexualised. They are IN ANKLE-LENGTH WINTER COATS.
It's completely different.
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