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Posted by: Klaus 14th March 2020, 10:19 AM

Continue with updates on the spread of the virus, countries responses and how it is impacting on your lives in terms if work arrangements, social gatherings etc

Rather than double/triple/quadrulpe post, just edit your last post if no one has replied since. If you’re a repeat offender, your posts will likely end up getting merged anyway

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Posted by: Jack 14th March 2020, 10:24 AM

Are other people starting to not go out?

I'm trying to let it not affect my life as much, still going on nights out and cinema etc but I am being cautious about it all.

Posted by: *Tim 14th March 2020, 10:25 AM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 14 2020, 11:24 AM) *
Are other people starting to not go out?

I'm trying to let it not affect my life as much, still going on nights out and cinema etc but I am being cautious about it all.

All our bars, clubs and restaurants are close :/
I'm bored out of my mind already and its day 1 of this not-lockdown

Posted by: Jack 14th March 2020, 10:27 AM

Oh god sad.gif

Small businesses are really going to feel the major effect of this aren't they?

Posted by: dan.G 14th March 2020, 10:30 AM

my parents are/were going to travel to France this Easter but that's looking less likely by the day so we'll be keeping a close eye on what they're doing.
I wasn't going anyway but was looking forward to a week to myself.
main hope is that my grandma doesn't get it anyhow as she's over 80 with a pre-existing condition. if she does I'll probably never see her in person again as she's in Australia. sad.gif

Posted by: FUTURE NOSTALGIA 14th March 2020, 10:36 AM

just cancelled my trip abroad cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Posted by: Jack 14th March 2020, 10:37 AM

QUOTE(FUTURE NOSTALGIA @ Mar 14 2020, 10:36 AM) *
just cancelled my trip abroad cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

sad.gif Where were you going?

Posted by: J00ps 14th March 2020, 10:41 AM

I'm trying to go for coffee every few days bc my impulse is to stay completely locked in like a hermit

Posted by: Chez Wombat 14th March 2020, 10:48 AM

I’m trying to avoid going anywhere on public transport on the weekends, especially Central/busier parts. I’m debating whether or not to go to the cinema, I can get there in walking distance, but it seems more and more risky every day and I’ve seen advice against it. I’m certainly keeping using the gym though as exercise is still important (and I am paying for it!)

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 14th March 2020, 10:50 AM

I'm literally just going about my normal life, if I get it I get it and I want to enjoy being able to go out and do stuff whilst I still can.

My parents both work for the NHS though so they're feeling the stress.

Posted by: *Tim 14th March 2020, 11:03 AM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 14 2020, 11:27 AM) *
Oh god sad.gif

Small businesses are really going to feel the major effect of this aren't they?

They are getting a compensation, but tbh i dont think its enough for then to sustain their bussiness and survive

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2020, 11:13 AM

I’m carrying on as normal at present until I’m told not to do something. So I am still going to work and swimming. I may go to the cinema if I fancy it but there’s not exactly much on. I am trying to avoid supermarkets because of morons rather than the virus but I will go to my local Spar if I need to. My mum has asked me not to visit until the schools are closed so I will have to FaceTime my parents and just drop off a present and a card outside the house for Mother’s Day.

Posted by: J▲hq 14th March 2020, 11:15 AM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 14 2020, 10:24 AM) *
Are other people starting to not go out?

I'm trying to let it not affect my life as much, still going on nights out and cinema etc but I am being cautious about it all.


I’ve booked to go to the cinema this afternoon (as Chez says, I’ve already paid upfront so until Cineworld are refunding me for a month of my membership, I’m gonna keep making use laugh.gif) and I’ve got a couple of nights out at the end of this month/start of next month that I already have tickets for, and if they still go ahead I’m still gonna go

I’ve still gotta turn up for work every day and that involves using public transport, so I’m not planning to scrap my leisure time

Posted by: Klaus 14th March 2020, 11:44 AM

I’m living my life as usual at the moment, although conscious that things are easily changing on a daily basis. I’m still going into work and I usually work from home at least once a week anyway. I’m currently at uni for one day a week but they’ve now moved to online teaching, so that’s the major difference I’ve experienced so far even if there were only two weeks left anyway.

I’m conscious about buying tickets for stuff though. There’s an event next Saturday which I want to go to but I’m aware it could be cancelled at the drop of a hat so putting off buying ticket for now. Otherwise I’d be happy to go.

Posted by: blacksquare 14th March 2020, 11:47 AM



British journalism is truly a joke. I don't understand why we are the only country with this approach to dealing with it.

Posted by: Liаm 14th March 2020, 11:52 AM

I've got to come into contact with so many people at work everyday, so if I'm gonna get it it'll be there I feel laugh.gif For that reason I'm not gonna let it stop me doing things, but my friends, boyfriend etc. all seem to be panicking way more so if we do anything social usually someone will drive and we'll go to their house or stay at mine because people don't want to do things.

Posted by: Wall 14th March 2020, 12:14 PM

I’m living my day as if it was my last and live my day as if I had no past

Posted by: I. :II: z 14th March 2020, 12:31 PM

Still haven't been properly outside in almost two months now argh. Some of the things around the city (like malls) are starting to re-open and the push in China seems to be that the worst of the virus is over. But there's still no update from about when schools will re-open and it could still be a while yet before that happens, if there is a school to go back to.

From what I can tell they're being INCREDIBLY stringent with anyone arriving back into the country to ensure it doesn't start up again, but there's still a little way to go before normal life resumes. So this is how I'd estimate European life looks in early June if the peak is in May.

Posted by: awardinary 14th March 2020, 12:36 PM

Went out this morning but it was the first day I actually felt very anxious about going outside. I came into close proximity with a couple who were coughing a lot and it got me a bit paranoid. I’ve come home now but I’m not sure I want to go back out again at the moment. huh.gif

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 12:40 PM

QUOTE(awardinary @ Mar 14 2020, 12:36 PM) *
Went out this morning but it was the first day I actually felt very anxious about going outside. I came into close proximity with a couple who were coughing a lot and it got me a bit paranoid. I’ve come home now but I’m not sure I want to go back out again at the moment. huh.gif



Did you get what you needed?

Posted by: awardinary 14th March 2020, 12:42 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 12:40 PM) *
Did you get what you needed?

Mostly, but not all.

Posted by: Dobbo 14th March 2020, 12:59 PM

Well im most certainly not gonna book ANYTHING until the day itself now. Will have to cancel my trip to Albania in 2 weeks and worse still, my one to Mexico in May. Likely losing over 600 quid but not too bad because I'll be saving lots over the coming months with nothing to spend it on.

On a day to day basis I'll be fine as can work from home and have plenty of stuff to do to the pass the time otherwise. No Sport for the foreseeable future is a toughie for me however! One big positive is being able to spend more time with my gf biggrin.gif I am very conscious of visiting family over Easter tho, grandparents being in the vulnerable age category although neither have things like asthma or diabetes etc.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 01:01 PM

EMERGENCY LAWS TO BE RUSHED THROUGH PARLIAMENT

From The Mirror.

Police will be given powers to detain people with coronavirus under new emergency laws set to be announced next week.

The sweeping measures also allow the government to force schools and nurseries to stay open if they are deemed to have closed 'unnecessarily'.

Both police and border officials will be able to detain people for a 'limited period' if it is feared they could spread the deadly virus, The Times reports.

The drastic package of legislation - which has been seen by the paper - is due to be pushed through Parliament in the next fortnight and will remain in effect for two years.

It was warned yesterday that up to 10,000 Brits may also unknowingly be infected with the virus, which has now been declared a global health pandemic.

Care for the elderly is also likely to be reduced.

Under the new laws, councils will be allowed to strip back services offered both to people in care homes and in their own homes without legal challenge - so long as they do not cause 'serious neglect or harm'.

Local authorities can also relax standards in care homes, to allow for staff shortages.

In order to maintain border security in the event of customs and immigration officers falling sick, ministers will be given the power to close ports if there are 'insufficient resources'.

The government will also be able to stop any vehicle, train, vessel or aircraft.

Worryingly, the legislation warns that the country's 'death management' industry could be rapidly overwhelmed should worst-case scenarios become a reality, and measures to speed up cremations and burials have also been proposed.

The draft reads: "In a reasonable worst-case scenario the death management industry will be rapidly overwhelmed.

"There is a significant gap in body storage requirements to ensure we are prepared for the reasonable worst-case scenario."

Doctors will be permitted to detail the cause of death on medical certificates without seeing a deceased person's body - with other senior health professionals allowed to sign death certificates.

Requirements for coroners to hold jury inquests will also be lifted.

However, the government has stopped short of declaring a 'state of emergency' under the Civil Contingencies Act 2004, which would have allowed ministers to force through new laws without the approval of Parliament.

Care home visits have also not yet been banned.

Meanwhile, as part of efforts to bring retired NHS staff back to work if needed, registration requirements for doctors, social workers and pharmacists seeking to return to practice will be relaxed.

Care workers close to finishing their qualifications will also be allowed to register.

Finally, the levels of doctors required at clinics under the Mental Health Act are set to be lowered to allow staff to be diverted to hospitals.

Posted by: Mack. 14th March 2020, 02:35 PM

Just simply carrying on with everyday life that is what I am doing.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 14th March 2020, 02:48 PM

Over 1.1k confirmed cases

21 deaths (+10)

Posted by: Wall 14th March 2020, 02:50 PM

Ffs it’s genuinely not going to get any better

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2020, 03:14 PM

What’s a few (tens of) thousands of lives if we can save a few quid, eh?

We are such a f***ing stupid country.

Posted by: Jack 14th March 2020, 03:18 PM

I'm going to have a awkward semi confrontational conversation with my manager saying I want to work from home on Monday. It's really triggering my anxiety and I have to get on public transport that's always busy to get there sad.gif.

Posted by: RabbitFurCoat 14th March 2020, 03:28 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 14 2020, 02:48 PM) *
Over 1.1k confirmed cases

21 deaths (+10)


Considering the complete lack of testing it's going to be a hell of a lot more cases than that in reality.

Jet2 have cancelled all flights to Spain and its islands, some in mid air. My parents are in Fuerteventura with them until Tuesday, this is the first thing that's made me slightly panic as I just hope they can get back ok.

I'd decided I was going to do my best to keep supporting business and such, like buying my lunch from shops next week rather than taking it to work with me, so obviously I'm now on mandatory work from home!

Posted by: Jack 14th March 2020, 03:54 PM

QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Mar 14 2020, 03:28 PM) *
Considering the complete lack of testing it's going to be a hell of a lot more cases than that in reality.

Jet2 have cancelled all flights to Spain and its islands, some in mid air. My parents are in Fuerteventura with them until Tuesday, this is the first thing that's made me slightly panic as I just hope they can get back ok.

I'd decided I was going to do my best to keep supporting business and such, like buying my lunch from shops next week rather than taking it to work with me, so obviously I'm now on mandatory work from home!

Jet2 are getting anyone who flew out with them back, don't worry!

As much as I hated working for them at times, they are very customer focused so will be making sure they can do all they possibly can to ensure their customers safety.

Posted by: Atonement 14th March 2020, 03:55 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 14 2020, 11:25 AM) *
I'm bored out of my mind already and its day 1 of this not-lockdown


Same tbh. All badminton competition matches, training and free play have been canceled until the end of March, including a big weekend long tournament. The gym is closed, so no lessons to follow. The course I teach got postponed so I have to work from home until at least April 13th while there is not much to do.

My mother and some of my friends are coughing and feeling sick so I can't go to my parents or see most of my friends.

(I wish Animal Crossing came out yesterday instead of next Friday to at least give me something to do).

Posted by: Doctor Blind 14th March 2020, 03:59 PM

The fear factor is going to absolutely hammer the hospitality industry sadly- however, that said - Wagamama in Tunbridge Wells was RAMMED last Saturday night. Took about 15 minutes for us to even get a table so it hadn't changed people's behaviour too much last weekend. This weekend may be a different thing altogether of course..

Posted by: Suedehead2 14th March 2020, 04:05 PM

There were reports earlier this week that Italian restaurants had taken a big hit in the same way that Chinese restaurants suffered when the coronavirus story first broke. That persuaded me to go to my (excellent) local Italian restaurant on Thursday just to show support. It was definitely quieter than normal. I just hope they can get back to normal levels of business soon.

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 04:05 PM

OK I know the school closures are a bit more debatable, but still no plans to stop indoor gatherings over 100 people (which is not debatable at all imo in terms of it helping to reduce the spread).

I know many of you have said they are trying to live their lives as normal by going to social events etc. but I think for the good of everyone we should be doing their bit to reduce the spread by reducing those activities for the next few weeks. Plenty of time to go to cinema or bars once things get better again and we get a vaccine.

I am certainly halting my social activities from now on, but then as I said before my father is 58 with type 1 diabetes so I am terrified that I will get the virus and spread it to him.

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2020, 04:10 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 04:05 PM) *
OK I know the school closures are a bit more debatable, but still no plans to stop indoor gatherings over 100 people (which is not debatable at all imo in terms of it helping to reduce the spread).

I know many of you have said they are trying to live their lives as normal by going to social events etc. but I think for the good of everyone we should be doing their bit to reduce the spread by reducing those activities for the next few weeks. Plenty of time to go to cinema or bars once things get better again and we get a vaccine.

I am certainly halting my social activities from now on, but then as I said before my father is 58 with type 1 diabetes so I am terrified that I will get the virus and spread it to him.


If we contract the virus, we will have to self isolate for up to 14 days. There is little point in doing so beforehand unless you’re in an at risk category. The only at risk person I’m ever in close contact with is my mother and she’s already taken action to keep herself safe. I’m not sure why you’re saying everyone should reduce their social activity in one breath and then saying closing schools is ‘debatable’ in the next. I’m far more likely to catch it in school than I am from seeing friends.

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 04:27 PM

QUOTE
I’m not sure why you’re saying everyone should reduce their social activity in one breath and then saying closing schools is ‘debatable’ in the next
It's a bit more debatable because a. a lot of parents may work in the NHS and couldn't do so to look after children and b. teachers can ensure strict hygiene standards whereas if children are off they will probably meet up with their schoolfriends more outside school where hygiene standards can't be managed as much.

Point a. though can be dealt with if only older secondary children at first are told to stay off, many 16-18 year olds could stay at home while their NHS parents could still work.

Not saying schools shouldn't be closed, just saying its a bit more debatable than banning indoor crows of over 100 which is not debatable at all. I think they should do things like closing all nightclubs, bars and pubs now, with government financial support for these businesses so they don't have to pay rent for a while etc.

QUOTE(Wall @ Mar 14 2020, 02:50 PM) *

Ffs it’s genuinely not going to get any better


My last hope was it was going to reduce with warmer weather in UK late spring but as Spain shows it almost certainly isn't sad.gif

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2020, 04:37 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 04:27 PM) *
It's a bit more debatable because a. a lot of parents may work in the NHS and couldn't do so to look after children and b. teachers can ensure strict hygiene standards whereas if children are off they will probably meet up with their schoolfriends more outside school where hygiene standards can't be managed as much.

Point a. though can be dealt with if only older secondary children at first are told to stay off, many 16-18 year olds could stay at home while their NHS parents could still work.

Not saying schools shouldn't be closed, just saying its a bit more debatable than banning indoor crows of over 100 which is not debatable at all. I think they should do things like closing all nightclubs, bars and pubs now, with government financial support for these businesses so they don't have to pay rent for a while etc.
My last hope was it was going to reduce with warmer weather in UK late spring but as Spain shows it almost certainly isn't sad.gif


There are well more than 100 students in most schools and in secondary schools a child turning up for last lesson isn’t just in the same room as 29 others but a room where 120 other students have probably been that day. Also we don’t police how hygienic the kids are when they go to the toilet, we’re not even really allowed in their toilets so we don’t know whether they’re washing their hands or not. There are also risks for staff that no one seems to be considering.

Your point a assumes that everyone that works in the NHS definitely has children, who are definitely school aged, definitely have partners that also work for the NHS and definitely have no support network whatsoever outside of their job to help with childcare.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 05:10 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 04:05 PM) *
OK I know the school closures are a bit more debatable, but still no plans to stop indoor gatherings over 100 people (which is not debatable at all imo in terms of it helping to reduce the spread).



Sky News seems pretty sure that will come early next week after another Cobra meeting.


Trump's extended his European ban to the UK and Ireland now which I suppose is sensible but will be criticized.

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 05:20 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 14 2020, 04:37 PM) *
There are well more than 100 students in most schools and in secondary schools a child turning up for last lesson isn’t just in the same room as 29 others but a room where 120 other students have probably been that day. Also we don’t police how hygienic the kids are when they go to the toilet, we’re not even really allowed in their toilets so we don’t know whether they’re washing their hands or not. There are also risks for staff that no one seems to be considering.

Your point a assumes that everyone that works in the NHS definitely has children, who are definitely school aged, definitely have partners that also work for the NHS and definitely have no support network whatsoever outside of their job to help with childcare.


OK you have convinced me after initially thinking yes then possibly no to to immediate school closures (because of what UK medical experts like Professor Whitty were saying).

The schools should close now.

QUOTE
Trump's extended his European ban to the UK and Ireland now which I suppose is sensible but will be criticized.


Sensible but Trump should have taken the virus more seriously sooner and not let it reach so many cases so soon.

Posted by: Wall 14th March 2020, 05:25 PM

So Dundee had 7 cases yesterday and today we’ve got 17. Most in Scotland incoming

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 05:32 PM

QUOTE(Wall @ Mar 14 2020, 05:25 PM) *
So Dundee had 7 cases yesterday and today we’ve got 17. Most in Scotland incoming


I am sure a few people there are considering going up and camping in the Highlands until this is over! laugh.gif

Posted by: Doctor Blind 14th March 2020, 05:32 PM

As the Chief Scientist said on Thursday, it is likely that there are many thousands of undiagnosed cases already and that community spread is rife. I'm not sure how suspending all air travel (as Italy found) actually helps all that much since the virus has now reached most of the world and is spreading within countries - but Trump likes his BIG pointless gestures.

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 05:34 PM

QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Mar 14 2020, 05:32 PM) *
As the Chief Scientist said on Thursday, it is likely that there are many thousands of undiagnosed cases already and that community spread is rife. I'm not sure how suspending all air travel (as Italy found) actually helps all that much since the virus has now reached most of the world and is spreading within countries - but Trump likes his BIG pointless gestures.


Do you think climate and temperatures affect the spread of it much based on stats from other countries? I think sadly barely at all.

Posted by: Doctor Blind 14th March 2020, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 05:34 PM) *
Do you think climate and temperatures affect the spread of it much based on stats from other countries? I think sadly barely at all.


No; the reason that the UK government wants to delay the peak is because there is less pressure on the NHS in the summer months (less seasonal flu etc.)

Posted by: Wall 14th March 2020, 05:41 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 05:32 PM) *
I am sure a few people there are considering going up and camping in the Highlands until this is over! laugh.gif


Honestly Scottish people are so chill about this all minus a couple of exceptions

Posted by: Wall 14th March 2020, 05:43 PM

I was proper chilled until yesterday but we’re all going to get the coronavirus sooner rather than later, I’ve accepted it. It’s not going to get better in the next couple of months. Italy are in lockdown but their death rate is rising rapidly.

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 05:43 PM

QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Mar 14 2020, 05:38 PM) *
No; the reason that the UK government wants to delay the peak is because there is less pressure on the NHS in the summer months (less seasonal flu etc.)


Its so confusing though because they say this but also say we mustn't suppress it too much and to let 60% of the population get it to develop herd immunity.

Posted by: Doctor Blind 14th March 2020, 05:48 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 05:43 PM) *
Its so confusing though because they say this but also say we mustn't suppress it too much and to let 60% of the population get it to develop herd immunity.


So if you just let the virus spread then the exponential growth in cases would overwhelm the NHS. This would mean that, like Italy, people with serious underlying health issues would be left to die due to a lack of health staff and ICUs. I don't think we know enough about Covid-19 to know whether a herd immunity would be effective, it seems like a massive gamble to me as it is possible that the virus may mutate and it isn't even known how much immunity that someone who had recovered from the virus would have built up. See numerous cases where people have gone on to catch the virus again.

Posted by: I. :II: z 14th March 2020, 05:50 PM

The idea of saying 'leave it all to herd immunity' is so profoundly stupid and if not, coldheartedly dismissive of the vulnerable people who will be victims of the virus that I can barely believe public representatives are advocating such for something we don't know enough about yet.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 06:01 PM

Trump took the test last night and is awaiting the result. I call bull on this as surely they'd rush his result through in hours. Would they even announce it if he was positive? Maybe not.

Posted by: I. :II: z 14th March 2020, 06:05 PM

Well, lots of people who've been around him, at his resort, at a dinner, have tested positive. Just goes to show that he's the best spreader, the BEST!

He'd never announce it if it was positive, these things are very carefully managed.

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 06:06 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 06:01 PM) *
Trump took the test last night and is awaiting the result. I call bull on this as surely they'd rush his result through in hours. Would they even announce it if he was positive? Maybe not.


I very much doubt he has the virus, he probably would have symptoms by now like a cough if he did.

Posted by: Houdini 14th March 2020, 06:13 PM

I am not scared of potentially catching Coronavirus and I am going about my business as I normally would and I refuse to be scared. This surely can't be on the scale of a world war where just popping out of your house for 2 minutes could have got you killed.

Pretty much all of what is being said on TV and the news is designed to scare the living shit out of everyone and I am not buying into it. Washing your hands is common sense and it shouldn't have taken a virus to realise that.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 14th March 2020, 06:18 PM

There are 5 cases in a hospital I work at... I’m scared omg

Posted by: Doctor Blind 14th March 2020, 06:19 PM

QUOTE(I. :II: z @ Mar 14 2020, 06:05 PM) *
Well, lots of people who've been around him, at his resort, at a dinner, have tested positive. Just goes to show that he's the best spreader, the BEST!


..and he may have infected the entire US Coronavirus Task Force during that press conference yesterday, still that's better than firing the entire US pandemic response team in 2018. What a stable genius!

Posted by: Doctor Blind 14th March 2020, 06:29 PM




Anyone else think that Trump does look a bit off colour (i.e. not orange) ?


Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 14th March 2020, 06:33 PM

I was out getting a few bits and pieces - moisturiser - couldn't even find my usual one!!!! - solution, pet treats, face wash, etc - ans I was looking at the charity books near the door. The next thing I know, some charver with one of the last toilet paper packs bundles it under his arm and charges out! He was gone and the women on the tills were like they knew he was going to do it. So yeah. Just seen someone steal toilet paper.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 14th March 2020, 06:34 PM

QUOTE(I. :II: z @ Mar 14 2020, 05:50 PM) *
The idea of saying 'leave it all to herd immunity' is so profoundly stupid and if not, coldheartedly dismissive of the vulnerable people who will be victims of the virus that I can barely believe public representatives are advocating such for something we don't know enough about yet.


Do you believe my rhetoric about the evil landed gentŕy swines yet? x

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 06:37 PM

QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Mar 14 2020, 06:29 PM) *

Anyone else think that Trump does look a bit off colour (i.e. not orange) ?




TBH I've thought he hasn't looked well for a while now. sad.gif

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 06:39 PM

QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Mar 14 2020, 05:32 PM) *
As the Chief Scientist said on Thursday, it is likely that there are many thousands of undiagnosed cases already and that community spread is rife. I'm not sure how suspending all air travel (as Italy found) actually helps all that much since the virus has now reached most of the world and is spreading within countries - but Trump likes his BIG pointless gestures.


I do wonder if every country in the world had banned flights from China, Italy and Iran when it was only in those three countries, what would have happened? Would it not have spread outside these three countries?

Posted by: I. :II: z 14th March 2020, 06:39 PM

I'm fairly certain Trump did cough quite audibly during his presidential address.

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 14 2020, 06:34 PM) *
Do you believe my rhetoric about the evil landed gentŕy swines yet? x


mate I'm just as breadpilled as you are I just sometimes take a more bourgeois tone for style purposes and the ideal of not alienating our potential audience

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 14th March 2020, 06:40 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 06:39 PM) *
I do wonder if every country in the world had banned flights from China, Italy and Iran when it was only in those three countries, what would have happened? Would it not have spread outside these three countries?


Yeaaah, not a single one of those countries is an island... And ships and cargo still exist, too, soo

Posted by: Wall 14th March 2020, 06:45 PM

The person who ate the bat, died.... right?

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 06:46 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 14 2020, 06:40 PM) *
Yeaaah, not a single one of those countries is an island... And ships and cargo still exist, too, soo


So if the whole world would have banned flights, ships and cargo from Italy, China and Iran when only these three countries had it that might have worked.

Sorry, I know this is in the past now but I like thinking of alternate history!

Posted by: Euphorique 14th March 2020, 06:49 PM

QUOTE(Wall @ Mar 14 2020, 06:45 PM) *
The person who ate the bat, died.... right?


China has found patient one, the first human who got it from another human, but they havent been able to track down patient zero, the first human to get it from the animal...

Posted by: Suedehead2 14th March 2020, 06:53 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 06:46 PM) *
So if the whole world would have banned flights, ships and cargo from Italy, China and Iran when only these three countries had it that might have worked.

Sorry, I know this is in the past now but I like thinking of alternate history!

Given the fact that a lot of people show very mild symptoms, I suspect it had arrived in many countries before it was even identified.

Posted by: Addy K!ng 14th March 2020, 07:06 PM

Hi Iz,

how's situation in China right now...are numbers still going high or it slowed down?

Posted by: *Tim 14th March 2020, 07:17 PM

France is going into lockdown as well

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 07:22 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 14 2020, 07:17 PM) *
France is going into lockdown as well



Surely it's only a matter of days now until we do then I bet the panic buying gets even worse with queues to get in to every shop or supermarket.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 07:28 PM

From BBC News:


Concerns about crowds certainly seem to have struck shoppers, with a number of shopping centres and high streets noticeably quieter than an average Saturday.

Birmingham's bull was kitted out in full St Patrick's Day garb but the usual selfie-taking shoppers gathered around the local landmark were nowhere to be seen.

The city's Bullring shopping centre was markedly quieter than usual early on Saturday.

In London, there were still plenty of shoppers in the capital's major retail areas like Oxford Street, but things were quieter.

The same goes for tourism hotspots like Buckingham Palace where visitors could be seen taking in the sights wearing face masks.

London's public transport system - known for its rush hour crowds - has been emptier in recent days.

Retailers in Above Bar, Southampton's main shopping street, said they had been feeling the impact.

Boots optician Carol Betts said five of her patients had cancelled on Saturday morning, which she put down to fears about close contact.

"I haven't seen any patients for more than two hours.

"We can't keep hand sanitiser in the store for love nor money - as soon as you put it out, it's gone."

Stall owner Vinnie Singh said footfall was down and blamed news coverage.

"You can see it today. The media is making it sound worse. Scaring and frightening people is not the way forward," he said.


Posted by: Brett-Butler 14th March 2020, 07:29 PM

Catholics in my diocese (and across Ireland) have been dispensed from going to Sunday Mass for the next few weeks, so will be web-camming Mass for a few weeks, and no Eucharist. sad.gif

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 07:32 PM

If they announce a ban on all gatherings over 100 surely all Sunday masses will have to be cancelled. Most get over that I'd have thought.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 14th March 2020, 07:35 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 08:32 PM) *
If they announce a ban on all gatherings over 100 surely all Sunday masses will have to be cancelled. Most get over that I'd have thought.



My understanding is that in our parish, the priest & a few celebrants will still carry out the Mass, with the faithful being able to stream it online if they so wish.

Posted by: I. :II: z 14th March 2020, 07:37 PM

QUOTE(Addy K!ng @ Mar 14 2020, 07:06 PM) *
Hi Iz,

how's situation in China right now...are numbers still going high or it slowed down?


Official numbers have slowed down and there are now less active infections than in Italy. Xi visited Wuhan at the beginning of this week and that seems to have been a signal that things are safe to come off the highest alert. Most provinces outside of Wuhan don't have many if any reported active infections and for my city, there's systems in place that excessively track people and their temperatures in public places to ensure that if any new cases show up they can be swiftly identified. Hearing a lot about people coming in from abroad needing mandatory quarantine whatsoever, and same if you move between cities/provinces. So coming off a pretty high level of social distancing, pretty draconian but apparently effective.

I don't have any restrictions on my movement right now as long as I stay in Tianjin, but there are still some things closed. Schools are not reopened yet.

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 07:47 PM

QUOTE(I. :II: z @ Mar 14 2020, 07:37 PM) *
Official numbers have slowed down and there are now less active infections than in Italy. Xi visited Wuhan at the beginning of this week and that seems to have been a signal that things are safe to come off the highest alert. Most provinces outside of Wuhan don't have many if any reported active infections and for my city, there's systems in place that excessively track people and their temperatures in public places to ensure that if any new cases show up they can be swiftly identified. Hearing a lot about people coming in from abroad needing mandatory quarantine whatsoever, and same if you move between cities/provinces. So coming off a pretty high level of social distancing, pretty draconian but apparently effective.

I don't have any restrictions on my movement right now as long as I stay in Tianjin, but there are still some things closed. Schools are not reopened yet.


Have to be careful when they ease restrictions so there isn't a second wave of the virus in China. Also maintain travel bans from Europe and US would be a good idea for China for the next few months.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 07:57 PM

France shuts all bars, cafes, pubs, night-clubs and restaurants until further notice. Now 4,999 cases there.

Some will never re-open. Same here if the same happens soon. They still have rents to pay whilst closed so won't be able to survive long.

Posted by: Silas EU Later 14th March 2020, 08:02 PM

I think I’m a step or two behind France in Germany. Things are changing rapidly. We very rapidly went from banning gatherings of more than 500 people to banning anything more than 50. A lot of the controls are on a state rather than federal level here so I can’t talk for what’s happening elsewhere but Berlin has really really ratcheted up the stakes in the past 36hrs. Schools are closed and effective immediately this afternoon they forced all bars, clubs, gyms, brothels, sports centres, pools, pubs, restaurants that qualify as “smoking” under the anti-smoking rules, theatres, cinemas etc etc etc all so shut. So there goes my workout plans while on mandated WFH.

We were due a public transport reduction, according to the schools closing announcement of Friday morning, but that was reversed Friday afternoon. I’m not sure we will make it far into next week before the BVG starts shutting off some if not all services

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 08:08 PM

QUOTE(I. :II: z @ Mar 14 2020, 05:50 PM) *
The idea of saying 'leave it all to herd immunity' is so profoundly stupid and if not, coldheartedly dismissive of the vulnerable people who will be victims of the virus that I can barely believe public representatives are advocating such for something we don't know enough about yet.


Hopefully this will make them rethink about the herd immunity idea

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402

Posted by: Mart!n 14th March 2020, 08:25 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 14 2020, 07:17 PM) *
France is going into lockdown as well


Just heard from my mum, not far from Toulouse sad.gif

Posted by: awardinary 14th March 2020, 08:37 PM

Can someone please share the link again where you can check number of confirmed cases in your area?

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 08:37 PM

I see The Horror Channel has pulled tonight's film at 9 too, about a family trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world wiped out by a virus. Suppose we can expect the main channels to pull such films too from now on. They pulled one last night at 9 too.

Posted by: Klaus 14th March 2020, 08:40 PM

The 2012 Contagion is climbing the charts on Amazon and iTunes. Not sure if people are trying to learn lessons from it laugh.gif

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(awardinary @ Mar 14 2020, 08:37 PM) *
Can someone please share the link again where you can check number of confirmed cases in your area?



I posted it the other day in the other thread but can't find it now. Was on the BBC News site.

Here, found it by Googling:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274


Still no cases in the LB of Newham.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 14th March 2020, 09:09 PM

I have just read the lockdoon document from the Spanish government. Man aliiive!! Massive queues for supermarkets this morning before they opened.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 09:10 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 14 2020, 09:09 PM) *
I have just read the lockdoon document from the Spanish givernment. Man aliiive!! Massive queues for supermarkets this morning before they opened.



And people here say panic buying is silly.....

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 09:29 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 09:10 PM) *
And people here say panic buying is silly.....


Remember on the first thread when quite a few Buzzjackers said panic buying was just an English thing!

Posted by: Suedehead2 14th March 2020, 09:35 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 09:10 PM) *
And people here say panic buying is silly.....

That's because it is silly. There is more than enough to go around if people only buy what they actually need. It is only because of people buying enough to last them until Christmas and beyond that there are shortages.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 09:40 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Mar 14 2020, 09:35 PM) *
That's because it is silly. There is more than enough to go around if people only buy what they actually need. It is only because of people buying enough to last them until Christmas and beyond that there are shortages.



So will you be queuing up at a supermarket before 7am then if it's anything like Spain? I certainly won't!

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 09:41 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 14 2020, 09:29 PM) *
Remember on the first thread when quite a few Buzzjackers said panic buying was just an English thing!



Yes they did. Wife's nieces saying on FB messenger it's going on big time in Philippines too with armed police on duty in big stores now and no loo rolls anywhere. Seems to be worldwide now. Most citizens carry guns there too like in the US so all police are heavily armed.

Posted by: Klaus 14th March 2020, 09:57 PM

There’s a separate thread for panic buying.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 10:21 PM

From ITV News.

People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months, under a "wartime-style" mobilisation effort by the government likely to be enforced within the next 20 days.

All care home and hospital visits will be banned with police or troops on duty at hospitals if necessary to ensure only staff can enter.

It is part of a series of measures being enforced by new laws rushed through Parliament next week and prepared by the Prime minister, health secretary, chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser to prevent the health service from "falling over" and to save lives as Covid-19 becomes an epidemic in the UK.

Other measures already being planned include:

The forced requisitioning and closure of hotels, guest houses and other buildings as temporary hospitals;

The requisitioning of private hospitals and clinics as emergency hospitals

Temporary closure of all pubs, bars, nightclubs and restaurants - some time after next weekend's ban on mass gatherings which is likely to be announced this week.

Emergency manufacture by several companies of respirators that would be necessary to keep alive those who become acutely ill;

the closure of schools for perhaps a few weeks, but with skeleton staff kept on to provide childcare for key workers in the NHS and police.

Posted by: dan.G 14th March 2020, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(dan.G @ Mar 14 2020, 10:30 AM) *
my parents are/were going to travel to France this Easter but that's looking less likely by the day so we'll be keeping a close eye on what they're doing.
so this is now already cancelled then oops. thought it would happen but not so soon.

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2020, 10:24 PM

Ugh, school is NOT childcare. Why don’t people understand this?

Posted by: Jack 14th March 2020, 10:25 PM

I'm hearing a lot of what will be happening but not a whole lot of what is happening. Actions speak louder than words, the utterly incompetent government need to deliver answers and solutions now.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 10:26 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 14 2020, 10:24 PM) *
Ugh, school is NOT childcare. Why don’t people understand this?



No it isn't USUALLY but these are not usual circumstances so the Government can basically do what they like. It's so any pupils with emergency workers as parents can still go to work which is a sensible move imo. What will teachers do at home all day? May as well supervise to let parents go in to work.

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2020, 10:29 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 10:26 PM) *
No it isn't USUALLY but these are not usual circumstances so the Government can basically do what they like. It's so any with emergency workers as parents can still go to work.


So I suggest the government workers staff the schools then or at least pay the teachers the going rate of childcare per child per hour.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 10:30 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 14 2020, 10:29 PM) *
So I suggest the government workers staff the schools then or at least pay the teachers the going rate of childcare per child per hour.



Tell them that then and am sure you'll be told turn up to supervise or no pay.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 10:31 PM

The Queen has left Buckingham Palace for Windsor which is more isolated and in the country. She will remain there as long as the virus is rife. She is in constant touch by phone with the PM apparently. All other Royals are leaving London for less populated areas and are expected to cancel public engagements. Only a bare skeleton staff will remain at the palace for administration and security of the building.

Posted by: T Boy 14th March 2020, 10:34 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 10:30 PM) *
Tell them that then and am sure you'll be told turn up to supervise or no pay.


Not if I get the virus which is highly likely if schools remain open. I’ll be off for two weeks.

Posted by: Jack 14th March 2020, 10:38 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 10:31 PM) *
The Queen has left Buckingham Palace for Windsor which is more isolated and in the country. She will remain there as long as the virus is rife. She is in constant touch by phone with the PM apparently. All other Royals are leaving London for less populated areas and are expected to cancel public engagements. Only a bare skeleton staff will remain at the palace for administration and security of the building.

How nice she can be tucked away safely when our vulnerable and elderly grandparents potentially have to suffer because the government have yet to put any strict policies in place.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 14th March 2020, 10:49 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 14 2020, 10:38 PM) *
How nice she can be tucked away safely when our vulnerable and elderly grandparents potentially have to suffer because the government have yet to put any strict policies in place.



Well she is 95 and Philip's 99 so in a very vulnerable group. They may not survive getting this virus. Good that their advisers are taking all necessary precautions. I bet Charles is being careful too, at 71 and the next in line.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 14th March 2020, 11:11 PM

What happened to that person on here who flew to America for Disney World and would only get a refund if it shut? It's shut now

Posted by: Klaus 14th March 2020, 11:16 PM

So our Health Secretary has written an article providing more detail on the next stage of the plan.

Only problem is that it’s behind a paywall on the Telegraph website. How considerate of him at such a crucial time. 🙃

Posted by: The S***e 14th March 2020, 11:18 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 10:21 PM) *
From ITV News.

People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months, under a "wartime-style" mobilisation effort by the government likely to be enforced within the next 20 days.

All care home and hospital visits will be banned with police or troops on duty at hospitals if necessary to ensure only staff can enter.

It is part of a series of measures being enforced by new laws rushed through Parliament next week and prepared by the Prime minister, health secretary, chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser to prevent the health service from "falling over" and to save lives as Covid-19 becomes an epidemic in the UK.

Other measures already being planned include:

The forced requisitioning and closure of hotels, guest houses and other buildings as temporary hospitals;

The requisitioning of private hospitals and clinics as emergency hospitals

Temporary closure of all pubs, bars, nightclubs and restaurants - some time after next weekend's ban on mass gatherings which is likely to be announced this week.

Emergency manufacture by several companies of respirators that would be necessary to keep alive those who become acutely ill;

the closure of schools for perhaps a few weeks, but with skeleton staff kept on to provide childcare for key workers in the NHS and police.


Good measures. But...

Not in the next 20 days or next week. NOW.

Posted by: Rooney 15th March 2020, 03:36 AM

Isn’t the issue that so many of us probably have or have had the coronavirus but don’t even realise? I’ve had plenty of the symptoms for example but I still feel ok, when before I’ve had the flu it completely knocks me out. It does seem it differs between person to person massively.

I’m currently in New Zealand and I’m starting to get a little concerned. It seems countries are shutting borders and transit airports are also banning passengers so if they decide to shut any airports with little warning I’m pretty screwed...

Posted by: dhwe 15th March 2020, 04:07 AM

that's the thing that keeps me up at night, knowing I might have it but feeling ok enough to go out. I'm a smoker so I have a pretty consistent cough but don't feel sick otherwise, apart from normal springtime allergies. it's so hard to distinguish between the symptoms honestly.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 10:32 AM

QUOTE(dhwe @ Mar 15 2020, 04:07 AM) *
that's the thing that keeps me up at night, knowing I might have it but feeling ok enough to go out. I'm a smoker so I have a pretty consistent cough but don't feel sick otherwise, apart from normal springtime allergies. it's so hard to distinguish between the symptoms honestly.



Do you have a temperature? If not it's unlikely that you have it.

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 10:57 AM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 14 2020, 08:40 PM) *
The 2012 Contagion is climbing the charts on Amazon and iTunes. Not sure if people are trying to learn lessons from it laugh.gif


I'm reading World War Z at the min 😐

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 10:59 AM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 08:37 PM) *
I see The Horror Channel has pulled tonight's film at 9 too, about a family trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world wiped out by a virus. Suppose we can expect the main channels to pull such films too from now on. They pulled one last night at 9 too.


I would t imagine many watch the Horror channel anyway 😁

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 11:09 AM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 14 2020, 10:31 PM) *
The Queen has left Buckingham Palace for Windsor which is more isolated and in the country. She will remain there as long as the virus is rife. She is in constant touch by phone with the PM apparently. All other Royals are leaving London for less populated areas and are expected to cancel public engagements. Only a bare skeleton staff will remain at the palace for administration and security of the building.


Maybe she will allow the NHS to use that huge building she lives in as a makeshift hospital that we will need when more cases arise?

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 11:13 AM

QUOTE(Rooney @ Mar 15 2020, 03:36 AM) *
Isn’t the issue that so many of us probably have or have had the coronavirus but don’t even realise? I’ve had plenty of the symptoms for example but I still feel ok, when before I’ve had the flu it completely knocks me out. It does seem it differs between person to person massively.

I’m currently in New Zealand and I’m starting to get a little concerned. It seems countries are shutting borders and transit airports are also banning passengers so if they decide to shut any airports with little warning I’m pretty screwed...


I'm glad your taking it more seriously now Rooney.

Posted by: *Tim 15th March 2020, 11:20 AM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 11:32 AM) *
Do you have a temperature? If not it's unlikely that you have it.

That has been debunked already. Plenty of people got sick without a fever

Posted by: 🍆 15th March 2020, 11:24 AM

There was some religious thing in Russia the other day where they line up to kiss something. I don't know the word for it but yeah 100 people lining up to kiss some saint's remains or whatever... on the same spot. Most of them were the COVID-19 "target audience" so yeah... common sense has officially left the chat.

Posted by: troublepink 15th March 2020, 11:55 AM

For me the worst thing about this is knowing that my 80 year old granny with dementia is absolutely terrified of what she is seeing about 'this disease they keep going on about on the telly'. I don't live nearby but she has lots of other family around to help her. And now with this staying indoors for 70+ year olds makes me think she's going to be worse. When she's stuck inside on her own she struggles, and has occasionally gone out at night time thinking its day time. She needs to go out to church on Sunday for company, being around other people helps her. And she needs her routines such as going to church, weekly shopping etc.

I agree that we need updating about what is going on, but the media need to think about vulnerable people when they are constantly talking about the panic buying, the number of cases and the lockdowns.

I don't know, my head feels such a mess about this whole situation because of my Gran. I want to watch the news and keep up to date with the latest, but all the time I'm watching the news I just wonder if my Gran is watching it as well.

Posted by: J00ps 15th March 2020, 11:59 AM

I definitely had an awful cough last year where I coughed so hard I hurt my ribs. Hard to say tho

Posted by: Suedehead2 15th March 2020, 12:17 PM

QUOTE(troublepink @ Mar 15 2020, 11:55 AM) *
For me the worst thing about this is knowing that my 80 year old granny with dementia is absolutely terrified of what she is seeing about 'this disease they keep going on about on the telly'. I don't live nearby but she has lots of other family around to help her. And now with this staying indoors for 70+ year olds makes me think she's going to be worse. When she's stuck inside on her own she struggles, and has occasionally gone out at night time thinking its day time. She needs to go out to church on Sunday for company, being around other people helps her. And she needs her routines such as going to church, weekly shopping etc.

I agree that we need updating about what is going on, but the media need to think about vulnerable people when they are constantly talking about the panic buying, the number of cases and the lockdowns.

I don't know, my head feels such a mess about this whole situation because of my Gran. I want to watch the news and keep up to date with the latest, but all the time I'm watching the news I just wonder if my Gran is watching it as well.

My mother (85 today) also has dementia but it is so advanced that she doesn't really follow what is going on. In some ways that is a relief as it means she isn't constantly worrying about it but it doesn't stop the rest of us worrying. That includes my father who is 92 and all too well aware of what is happening.

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 01:29 PM

Must be worst for you father who's 92, is he healthy Enough?

Posted by: Suedehead2 15th March 2020, 01:41 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 15 2020, 01:29 PM) *
Must be worst for you father who's 92, is he healthy Enough?

He's pretty healthy for his age but this is obviously a worry.

Posted by: awardinary 15th March 2020, 02:06 PM


Have to admit, I do feel self conscious if I touch my face in public from now on, even just to scratch an itch for a brief second. The moment someone sees you do it, you feel like you are infectious! mellow.gif

Posted by: Silas EU Later 15th March 2020, 02:28 PM



We only started taking it seriously a couple of days ago and now we’re starting border closures. Fun times ahead

Posted by: Cqmerqn 15th March 2020, 03:41 PM

1,372 confirmed cases

35 deaths mellow.gif

Posted by: T Boy 15th March 2020, 03:42 PM

Counting the cases is pointless now that they’re not testing everyone.

It’s scary how fast the deaths are building up though.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 15th March 2020, 03:44 PM

Yeah definitely, it’s the deaths we should be looking at sad.gif

Posted by: J00ps 15th March 2020, 03:50 PM

Re the deaths we should be wary of, for lack of a better word, lack-of-kniwledge bias. It's entirely possible any other strain of bad flu or any other single cause - diabetes, any specific C word - kills just as many every year & it just isn't reported because we're accustomed to it.

Obviously this is no reason to not still be cautious & take care, but at the same time becoming paralytic with anxiety & stress isn't helpful either & may put undue pressure on your immune system which is directly unhelpful.

I think the media are trying to strikea balance between helping people stay proactive and actually causing undue panic. Once again its quite possible that many or all of the deaths so far were already at death's door where any kind of flu, SARS etc. would have done for them the same way. Doesn't make it any less sad & upsetting, but it is crucial context.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 15th March 2020, 03:51 PM

Of course, but it’s the growth that’s concerning. It has doubled the last 2 days.

Posted by: Mack. 15th March 2020, 03:52 PM

The number of coronavirus deaths in Spain has more than doubled in a day to 288, with nearly 8,000 infections now confirmed in the country.

Posted by: Suedehead2 15th March 2020, 03:53 PM

Just in case anyone still doubts that this government is allowing anti-European zealotry to override the national interest...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-vaccine-delays-brexit-ema-expensive?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Posted by: *Tim 15th March 2020, 03:57 PM

The Netherlands is closing all schools, bars, restaurants etc from tomorrow

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 03:58 PM

I'm finding the whole condescending attitude of people telling me not to worry really annoying, I'm not doing anything stupid like panic buying or completely quarantining myself but I am taking more precautionary measures.

Also, I have anxiety and this has definetly triggered it further - telling me to 'not worry' really really isn't helpful.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:02 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 15 2020, 03:57 PM) *
The Netherlands is closing all schools, bars, restaurants etc from tomorrow



It's time we did too but Sky News saying rumours from No.10 that the Government still thinks we're not quite at that stage yet and closing schools won't do much good.

Posted by: J00ps 15th March 2020, 04:05 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 15 2020, 03:58 PM) *
I'm finding the whole condescending attitude of people telling me not to worry really annoying, I'm not doing anything stupid like panic buying or completely quarantining myself but I am taking more precautionary measures.

Also, I have anxiety and this has definetly triggered it further - telling me to 'not worry' really really isn't helpful.


If that was a reply to me, that wasn't my intention. I also have anxiety. I just find it helpful sometimes to try and ground it logically so that I don't completely clam up, which has happened in the past and is hard to get out of. If there's any way to lessen the stress I (& others) are feeling down from abject panic to something manageable, its something I'd like to try. That was my only intention.

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 04:06 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:02 PM) *
It's time we did too but Sky News saying rumours from No.10 that the Government still thinks we're not quite at that stage yet and closing schools won't do much good.

I truly believe the UK have handled it the worse out of any country - on a global scale as well. It's making people's mental health go out of control too, all we need is some reassurance and to know some measures are being put in place. Not simply told 'some of you will die' ?!?!

It's crazy to see anyone still blindly supporting B*ris.

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 15 2020, 04:05 PM) *
If that was a reply to me, that wasn't my intention. I also have anxiety. I just find it helpful sometimes to try and ground it logically so that I don't completely clam up, which has happened in the past and is hard to get out of. If there's any way to lessen the stress I (& others) are feeling down from abject panic to something manageable, its something I'd like to try. That was my only intention.

Oh it really wasn't! I was talking generally - I haven't really noticed many do it on here, maybe in the beginning understandably, but not now. It's more people I'm friends with or know in real life. A lot of people seem to have such a complacent attitude to it all that I really just can't get my head around.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:12 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 15 2020, 04:07 PM) *
Oh it really wasn't! I was talking generally - I haven't really noticed many do it on here, maybe in the beginning understandably, but not now. It's more people I'm friends with or know in real life. A lot of people seem to have such a complacent attitude to it all that I really just can't get my head around.



Isn't that better than everyone panicking and worrying though? It's not like we're in WWIII.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:14 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 15 2020, 04:06 PM) *
I truly believe the UK have handled it the worse out of any country - on a global scale as well. It's making people's mental health go out of control too, all we need is some reassurance and to know some measures are being put in place. Not simply told 'some of you will die' ?!?!

It's crazy to see anyone still blindly supporting B*ris.



The thinking seems to be that a lot of kids would be sent to grand-parents if their parents work so may pass it on to them, the most vulnerable group, so closing schools may just defeat it's purpose. At school they're not visiting older people as much. Surely the other countries have considered this too?

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 15th March 2020, 04:16 PM

They have. And in Spain and Italy you can't leave your house.

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 04:17 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:12 PM) *
Isn't that better than everyone panicking and worrying though? It's not like we're in WWIII.

Not worrying as such, I agree that isn't helpful. More so the likes of people not taking precautionary measures, I still see people cough and sneeze into thin air and people who are symptomatic going to events still, and then when questioned upon it are told I'm overreacting. That's more of what I mean.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:18 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 15 2020, 04:16 PM) *
They have. And in Spain and Italy you can't leave your house.



What about if you have a dog? Don't they get walks?

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 04:20 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:14 PM) *
The thinking seems to be that a lot of kids would be sent to grand-parents if their parents work so may pass it on to them, the most vulnerable group, so closing schools may just defeat it's purpose. At school they're not visiting older people as much. Surely the other countries have considered this too?

School care isn't child care though. The parents, as harsh as it sounds, should think of having measures in place for when their children aren't well or school is closed.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:22 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 15 2020, 04:20 PM) *
School care isn't child care though. The parents, as harsh as it sounds, should think of having measures in place for when their children aren't well or school is closed.



They have, grandparents if they're free and childcare is unaffordable or taking time off work.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 15th March 2020, 04:22 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:18 PM) *
What about if you have a dog? Don't they get walks?

I’m sure they’ll be fine for a little while...

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 15th March 2020, 04:24 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:18 PM) *
What about if you have a dog? Don't they get walks?


No. Expressly forbidden. If they catch you, you get fined.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:25 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 15 2020, 04:24 PM) *
No. Expressly forbidden. If they catch you, you get fined.



I thought they could go out for just shopping with people being allowed in a few at a time. How are they getting food then?


What about services like rubbish collection? A build-up will attract rats.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 15th March 2020, 04:26 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:25 PM) *
I thought they could go out for just shopping with people being allowed in a few at a time. How are they getting food then?


Allowed out to go shopping or for essential work ONLY. No walking dogs.

Posted by: 🍆 15th March 2020, 04:33 PM

so they decided to cancel the party i was going to next friday. it would have more than 1k people I assume so I guess it makes sense sad.gif

Posted by: *Tim 15th March 2020, 04:38 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 15 2020, 05:22 PM) *
I’m sure they’ll be fine for a little while...

That's lowkey ridiculous though. My dog has been trained to only pee and poo on grass, he'd suffer so much :')

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 15 2020, 04:38 PM) *
That's lowkey ridiculous though. My dog has been trained to only pee and poo on grass, he'd suffer so much :')



I'm sure if he was really desperate he'd do it anywhere. Ours prefers grass but will go in the back yard which is stone.

Posted by: T Boy 15th March 2020, 04:49 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:14 PM) *
The thinking seems to be that a lot of kids would be sent to grand-parents if their parents work so may pass it on to them, the most vulnerable group, so closing schools may just defeat it's purpose. At school they're not visiting older people as much. Surely the other countries have considered this too?


The kids will be seeing grandparents anyway but if they’re not in school, they’re less likely to come across anyone who has it and get infected. Most kids are fine staying indoors and they all socialise online anyway. You’re also forgetting that staff at schools may have older relatives they will come into contact with. I don’t know why you’re convinced we must stay open given it won’t affect you at all.

The governments hand may be forced anyway. Their guidance has been that awful and pointless that people are already taking things into their own hands to protect their families and it won’t be long before parents start keeping their kids at home.

I trust the judgement of the rest of the world over that of Boris.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:54 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 15 2020, 04:49 PM) *
The kids will be seeing grandparents anyway but if they’re not in school, they’re less likely to come across anyone who has it and get infected. Most kids are fine staying indoors and they all socialise online anyway. You’re also forgetting that staff at schools may have older relatives they will come into contact with. I don’t know why you’re convinced we must stay open given it won’t affect you at all.



I'm not convinced you should stay open and have never said that. I actually think they should be closed from tomorrow.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 04:57 PM

Someone on DS asking if all restaurants are forced to close here, would that include McDonald's, Burger King, Nandos, KFC etc. I would think so, anywhere that you sit inside to eat.

Takeaways would be very busy. You could catch it whilst queueing there though!

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 05:05 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Mar 15 2020, 01:41 PM) *
He's pretty healthy for his age but this is obviously a worry.


Yeh true, hope they stay well.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 05:11 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 04:18 PM) *
What about if you have a dog? Don't they get walks?


Not as good as giving them a walk but you can always play ball with your dog in the garden to give them exercise. You are quite safe from coronavirus in your garden as it is outside, unless the garden is very small and the neighbours are outside.

Posted by: J00ps 15th March 2020, 05:16 PM

How daft are people. Honestly starting to be a bit annoyed with the amount of people not getting that quarantine means quarantine. (You would think that wouldn't be rocket science for the Brexit means Brexit crowd...)

Yes, no restaurants, no fast food, no shopping, no "but what about". It is to keep vulnerable people safe! Anne Frank didn't have Netflix and whole libraries to read from the comfort of her own sofa.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 05:20 PM

There's a thread on Mumsnet about how people are turning on each other in supermarkets. A woman saying her hubby's a security guard and he's having to throw aggressive men out of the shops, women pulling other women's hair over loo rolls,. It's the worst he's ever seen and he can only see it getting worse when we go in to lockdown. Police will be needed then. People telling anyone coughing they should be at home not out shopping. Society is starting to break down. One woman with no loo roll at home got the last pack and got abuse from a man with his trolley full of it.

Security, heavily outnumbered, had to try to break up a huge brawl at a Tesco Extra customer service counter over loo rolls, as police vans rushed to the scene. That was on Sky News. Several arrests for public disorder and store closed by police.


Reports of people buying 10 loaves and dozens of eggs each.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 05:35 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Mar 15 2020, 05:20 PM) *
People telling anyone coughing they should be at home not out shopping.


That's sensible though. A lot of the people going to supermarkets who are coughing are unbelievably selfish. Most people have family members who can get their shopping for them if they have a cough.

Supermarket security guards should be monitoring customers for symptoms and turning people away who show symptoms such as coughing.

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 05:38 PM

Some people have hayfever at this time of year or just a tickle in their throat? Doesn't mean they have Corona laugh.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 15th March 2020, 05:45 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 15 2020, 05:35 PM) *
Supermarket security guards should be monitoring customers for symptoms and turning people away who show symptoms such as coughing.


That's a bit silly how can they tell, people who smoke often cough as well sleep.gif

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 15 2020, 05:38 PM) *
Some people have hayfever at this time of year or just a tickle in their throat? Doesn't mean they have Corona laugh.gif


I suppose so, which is why it is so hard to stop the spread of it without banning everyone who has a cough, which could cause starvation amongst those who have no family members to get food for them if they have a cough even not caused by the coronavirus.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 05:51 PM

A good point about the US. Remember most people have guns there so what will happen if there are shortages, particularly food. Not just brawls but maybe people shot too.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 05:52 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Mar 15 2020, 05:45 PM) *
That's a bit silly how can they tell, people who smoke often cough as well sleep.gif


Yes, sadly I have realized its an idea that would decline the spread of the virus but could lead to deaths from starvation and poverty sad.gif

I read that UV light can stop spread of viruses, maybe they should introduce UV lights to supermarkets - but of course the problem is it can cause skin cancer if overused sad.gif

Posted by: Suedehead2 15th March 2020, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 15 2020, 05:05 PM) *
Yeh true, hope they stay well.

Thanks. I spoke to them both earlier. Dad has a bad throat (although he says it doesn't feel sore) but no coughing and no sign of a temperature. I just hope it's a standard winter cold.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 06:13 PM

QUOTE
A man with underlying health problems who has died after contracting Covid-19 has been named as retired police officer Nick Matthews, 59, of Nailsea, near Bristol.

His wife, Mary, paid tribute on Facebook, saying she had lost her "soul mate" and "best friend", following Mr Matthews' death at Bristol Royal Infirmary in the early hours of Saturday.


Its even more awful when you get personal stories like that rather than just numbers. sad.gif Only 59 too, but he's unlikely to be the youngest UK victim sadly.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 15th March 2020, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Mar 15 2020, 06:07 PM) *
Thanks. I spoke to them both earlier. Dad has a bad throat (although he says it doesn't feel sore) but no coughing and no sign of a temperature. I just hope it's a standard winter cold.



Hope he'll be okay. My best wishes to them both. Sadly I lost my dad in 2001 and mum in 2016. At least they weren't here to see Rachel go as they'd have been totally heartbroken.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 06:25 PM

QUOTE
Thanks. I spoke to them both earlier. Dad has a bad throat (although he says it doesn't feel sore) but no coughing and no sign of a temperature. I just hope it's a standard winter cold.


Best wishes to them Suedehead. If they try and self isolate as much as possible they should be OK and not get the virus.

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 15 2020, 05:38 PM) *
Some people have hayfever at this time of year or just a tickle in their throat? Doesn't mean they have Corona laugh.gif


Didn't think there would be hayfever in March, there's not many Buds on the trees yet!

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 07:07 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 15 2020, 07:03 PM) *
Didn't think there would be hayfever in March, there's not many Buds on the trees yet!


Cherry blossom is in flower.

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 07:12 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 15 2020, 07:07 PM) *
Cherry blossom is in flower.


Well true, usually comes off the trees before the heat of the proper summer.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 15th March 2020, 07:18 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 15 2020, 05:52 PM) *
Yes, sadly I have realized its an idea that would decline the spread of the virus but could lead to deaths from starvation and poverty sad.gif

I read that UV light can stop spread of viruses, maybe they should introduce UV lights to supermarkets - but of course the problem is it can cause skin cancer if overused sad.gif


ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH?! Let's just douse ourselves with RADIATION and cause permanent skin damage and increase everyone's risks of melanoma eh!

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 07:21 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 15 2020, 07:12 PM) *
Well true, usually comes off the trees before the heat of the proper summer.


So NI's peak might be a bit later than the rest of the UK based on the figures (good news if so as that pushes it more into the summer when NHS has less pressure), or we we will get it a bit less than most places (hopefully) or the number is lower just because of the lower NI population. Anyway Wales has way overtaken us when we were pretty much level on numbers of confirmed cases at the start.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 07:24 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 15 2020, 07:18 PM) *
ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH?! Let's just dose ourselves with RADIATION and cause permanent skin damage and increase everyone's risks of melanoma eh!


They have apparently used UV light to disinfect some public transport in China. Better when nobody is in the area though.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 15th March 2020, 07:28 PM

The. Whole. Reason. We. Have. Suncream. Is. To. Prevent. UV. Light. Damage. Do. Not. Douse. People. In. UV. Light.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 15th March 2020, 07:28 PM

The Republic of Ireland has closed all its pubs, two days before St Patrick's Day. That's how real things have got.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 07:33 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Mar 15 2020, 07:28 PM) *
The Republic of Ireland has closed all its pubs, two days before St Patrick's Day. That's how real things have got.


Close them in NI RIGHT NOW. I swear Arlene, Michael McBride and Swann are almost as bad as Boris and Prof Whitty when it comes to this, very disappointed in them.

Posted by: Euphorique 15th March 2020, 08:02 PM

Italy had its deadliest day so far, with 368 people passing sad.gif

Posted by: dandy* 15th March 2020, 08:03 PM

That's a lot of people sad.gif So sad to read

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 08:10 PM

QUOTE(Euphorique @ Mar 15 2020, 08:02 PM) *
Italy had its deadliest day so far, with 368 people passing sad.gif


They should set up a public memorial for the victims once the outbreak is over.

Posted by: Euphorique 15th March 2020, 08:13 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 15 2020, 08:03 PM) *
That's a lot of people sad.gif So sad to read


They should reach their peak very soon, probably this week. They tested 125,000 people today, the most so far.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(Euphorique @ Mar 15 2020, 08:13 PM) *
They should reach their peak very soon, probably this week. They tested 125,000 people today, the most so far.


Yes hopefully both Italy and Iran will both reach their peak this week and then things can get better in these countries.

Posted by: Harve 15th March 2020, 08:25 PM

QUOTE(Euphorique @ Mar 15 2020, 09:02 PM) *
Italy had its deadliest day so far, with 368 people passing sad.gif


Posted by: Silas EU Later 15th March 2020, 08:43 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Mar 15 2020, 08:28 PM) *
The Republic of Ireland has closed all its pubs, two days before St Patrick's Day. That's how real things have got.

Berlin shut its nightclubs (amongst other things) yesterday afternoon. And then sent cops round to enforce it.

Berlin sacrificing its club culture is a big moment for the city easily on par with that move for Ireland

Posted by: dandy* 15th March 2020, 08:54 PM

Next we know, England will be shutting down Wetherspoons and Pound Shops.

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 08:57 PM

Urban Outfitters is one of if not the first shop to announce its closing its stores within the UK until further notice.

Posted by: Silas EU Later 15th March 2020, 09:31 PM

Wow! Wonder if like Apple there’s is worldwide? Apple stores in China are the only ones open now

Posted by: Brett-Butler 15th March 2020, 09:33 PM

My gym has announced that it's closing for the next two weeks, which means no personal trainer. Not sure if I'll be able to run outside for a few weeks either, which means that if rationing does indeed happen, I'll be very much glad of it.

Posted by: *Tim 15th March 2020, 09:59 PM

QUOTE(Silas EU Later @ Mar 15 2020, 10:31 PM) *
Wow! Wonder if like Apple there’s is worldwide? Apple stores in China are the only ones open now

It is!

Posted by: T Boy 15th March 2020, 10:06 PM

So we’ve postponed our parents evening tomorrow night. We’ve been told not to discuss possible closure with the students if they try to engage us in such discussion. Talk about the impossible.

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 10:30 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Mar 15 2020, 07:28 PM) *
The Republic of Ireland has closed all its pubs, two days before St Patrick's Day. That's how real things have got.



Was at a wedding in Co.Louth last night and it went ahead, the servers worse plastic gloves tho!

Posted by: Steve201 15th March 2020, 10:32 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Mar 15 2020, 09:33 PM) *
My gym has announced that it's closing for the next two weeks, which means no personal trainer. Not sure if I'll be able to run outside for a few weeks either, which means that if rationing does indeed happen, I'll be very much glad of it.


Why would you not go for a run?

Posted by: Harve 15th March 2020, 10:34 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 15 2020, 11:06 PM) *
So we’ve postponed our parents evening tomorrow night. We’ve been told not to discuss possible closure with the students if they try to engage us in such discussion. Talk about the impossible.

Britain must be the last place in Europe still to have schools open.

Posted by: *Tim 15th March 2020, 10:43 PM

QUOTE(Harve @ Mar 15 2020, 11:34 PM) *
Britain must be the last place in Europe still to have schools open.

Sweden and Finland as well.

I've been selfisolating as I'm feeling a bit under the weather and this morning my lungs were a bit irritated. Fingers crossed it'll pass soon lmao

Posted by: Jack 15th March 2020, 10:43 PM

Kehlani and Madison Beer (not major artists I know) have confirmed their albums are to be delayed due to Corona. I wonder if we will see more major album delays and a dry up on the music industry if this continues.

Posted by: SAD + FURIOUS 15th March 2020, 10:57 PM

Another 100 cases in one day in Greece, now a lot of shop owners are voluntarily staying closed starting tomorrow. Meanwhile, thousands of dumb people still went to church on Sunday morning thinking Jesus won't let them get the Coronavirus, so I expect to see a rapid increase in cases in the next few days. The Prime Minister is meeting with the Holy Synod in the morning, so I hope they come to the decision to close the damn churches.

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 11:01 PM

Has the Greek economy managed to recover completely from their economic crisis a few year ago. If not the coronavirus could hit Greece very hard sad.gif

Posted by: The S***e 15th March 2020, 11:05 PM

QUOTE(SAD + FURIOUS @ Mar 15 2020, 10:57 PM) *
Meanwhile, thousands of dumb people still went to church on Sunday morning thinking Jesus won't let them get the Coronavirus, so I expect to see a rapid increase in cases in the next few days.


That's like (mostly young) people still going out to the bars for St Patrick's weekend in Ireland, also expect to see a big increase in cases because of that especially NI if they haven't yet closed bars by St Patrick's Day (Tuesday)

Posted by: Jacob :O 16th March 2020, 12:42 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 15 2020, 10:06 PM) *
So we’ve postponed our parents evening tomorrow night. We’ve been told not to discuss possible closure with the students if they try to engage us in such discussion. Talk about the impossible.
We've been told the same, and I'm just here like well some have already been asking these questions, lots of them know what's going on. So far I've just said it's hard to say, things could change at any time but for the moment we're just continuing as normal. I understand that we shouldn't spread rumours or incite panic (well more realistically, get their hopes up- they're probably buzzing for some time off) but it seems more counter productive to close up, avoid the question or change the subject. It'll just make them start thinking we know something and schools are going to close.

Which realistically, they probably will before long. Not that I'd say that. laugh.gif

Posted by: 🍆 16th March 2020, 12:46 AM

There are claims that toilet paper can be used to make face masks which has apparently been debunked as well. That’s the latest theory why people are going crazy over loo rolls over here lmao. Russia is so slow. I think only now they started to realize the poo panic has been going on for quite a few weeks all over the world.

Posted by: dhwe 16th March 2020, 04:22 AM


Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 16th March 2020, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 15 2020, 08:54 PM) *
Next we know, England will be shutting down Wetherspoons and Pound Shops.


Blasphemy!

Posted by: Brett-Butler 16th March 2020, 08:34 AM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 15 2020, 11:32 PM) *
Why would you not go for a run?


If the next stage of containment comes in to force, where you can only go out for "essentials", I'm not sure if going for a run falls under that category. There's already a mini-backlash starting against runners meeting up for outdoor races, even if they're well below the >500 threshold that has been largely agreed upon, so wouldn't want to the stir the pot in relation to that. I'll still go out for runs on my own until such a time that I'm advised not to.

Posted by: tommie 16th March 2020, 08:47 AM

Well, this Monday became incredibly short.


Posted by: Steve201 16th March 2020, 10:00 AM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Mar 16 2020, 08:34 AM) *
If the next stage of containment comes in to force, where you can only go out for "essentials", I'm not sure if going for a run falls under that category. There's already a mini-backlash starting against runners meeting up for outdoor races, even if they're well below the >500 threshold that has been largely agreed upon, so wouldn't want to the stir the pot in relation to that. I'll still go out for runs on my own until such a time that I'm advised not to.


Well quite, I kinda just thought of a solo run rather than a park run

Is the St. Patrick's Day run off I take?

Posted by: Brett-Butler 16th March 2020, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 16 2020, 11:00 AM) *
Well quite, I kinda just thought of a solo run rather than a park run

Is the St. Patrick's Day run off I take?


Yes, the St Patrick's Day run was cancelled last week, and I'm pretty sure we'll get confirmation on the Belfast Marathon being cancelled later on today.

Posted by: Jack 16th March 2020, 10:08 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/government-response-to-coronavirus-led-by-science-grant-shapps

????? I'm literally SPEECHLESS.

Posted by: I. :II: z 16th March 2020, 10:33 AM

If this was being 'handled by science' then shouldn't there be a concerted effort and continual updates from the government on their strategy? I may not be in the country but I've seen very little evidence of good and strong government reassurance.

Or hell, just look at South Korea who've managed a very good level of control amid a tough level of spreading. By science, you follow the most successful strategy so far.

Posted by: Steve201 16th March 2020, 11:13 AM

It's being handled by politics. They don't want the NHS to be over run and to highlight how short of investments there's been over the past decade. So it's herd mentality all the way so the poor and old will most likely feel the effects.

Posted by: *Tim 16th March 2020, 11:32 AM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 16 2020, 12:13 PM) *
It's being handled by politics. They don't want the NHS to be over run and to highlight how short of investments there's been over the past decade. So it's herd mentality all the way so the poor and old will most likely feel the effects.

But isnt their current strategy doing exactly the opposite? With no measures taken, the NHS will for sure collaps

I mean y'all are doing worse than half of europe and we're all on lockdown to prevent our healthcare to be overrun

Posted by: Dobbo 16th March 2020, 11:33 AM

Yes plus more elderly casualties means less of a pension burden.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 16th March 2020, 11:49 AM

The Craigavon 3/4 marathon I was due to do in April is now postponed.

It would've been the last big test before the marathon in May, so I'm disappointed by that. On the plus side, it means that I no longer need to go to Craigavon.

Posted by: Steve201 16th March 2020, 12:24 PM

Always good not to have to go to Craigavon!

Posted by: The S***e 16th March 2020, 12:26 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 16 2020, 11:13 AM) *
It's being handled by politics. They don't want the NHS to be over run and to highlight how short of investments there's been over the past decade. So it's herd mentality all the way so the poor and old will most likely feel the effects.


If they don't want the NHS to be overrun they are going the wrong way about it. Taking too long for controls that if they were implemented a few days ago like the rest of Europe would allow a bit of delay in the peak to buy time to get ventilators in, prepare the NHS etc.

The UK was actually in a relatively good position, a bit behind most of the other big countries in Europe in our stage of the virus spread. Boris and the government have squandered that advantage.

Posted by: Steve201 16th March 2020, 12:46 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 16 2020, 12:26 PM) *
If they don't want the NHS to be overrun they are going the wrong way about it. Taking too long for controls that if they were implemented a few days ago like the rest of Europe would allow a bit of delay in the peak to buy time to get ventilators in, prepare the NHS etc.

The UK was actually in a relatively good position, a bit behind most of the other big countries in Europe in our stage of the virus spread. Boris and the government have squandered that advantage.


Yeh maybe it was not made clear enough the way I wrote it but it was a criticism as they seem to think this will mean people will get it in batches instead of all at once but it won't happen like that.

Also they were too slow to react in terms of travel etc.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 16th March 2020, 01:45 PM

As expected, the Belfast Marathon has now been postponed to September. That's 3 months of training that are now going to go to waste. Still, looking on the bright side, I've now beaten my own personal record of longest distance run in 1 go (16 miles).

Posted by: Jack 16th March 2020, 03:00 PM

Primark now closed throughout all Europe!!

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 16th March 2020, 03:26 PM

Just got an email from York saying that all teaching and examinations for the Final term are going to be done online (and that first-year exams will be cancelled) however the Uni is still open. Given that there's only four weeks of teaching after Easter this is probably the best part of the year for it to happen, still going to have to revise over most of Easter though.

Posted by: ITz Cody 16th March 2020, 04:01 PM

I’m surprised the US is handling this better than the UK considering how most Americans are anti-science

Schools are closed, supermarkets are starting to practice rationing supplies, hell even the Starbucks near my house is only accepting takeaway orders

Posted by: Harve 16th March 2020, 04:06 PM

France has already closed schools, shops, cafés, restaurants, bars, ski resorts, gyms, closed its borders and severely reduced public transport. The country is basically already shut but Macron is speaking *again* at 20h00 tonight and I don't see what more can be announced other than an Italy-style lockdown where we have to have a reason to go outside and can't leave our town/neighbourhood urgh.

Posted by: Steve201 16th March 2020, 04:26 PM

So the WHO press conference there stated that there should be continued tests on people and social distancing on all possible levels be put in place and yet Boris Johnson is putting the opposite plans in place so far although we are waiting for the dear leader to make his daily statement.

Posted by: Mikal 16th March 2020, 05:32 PM

They’ve announced... nothing

Posted by: Silas EU Later 16th March 2020, 05:48 PM



We’re moving onto the France level of lockdown. The fact that shops will be allowed to open on Sundays, and the chancellor from the Christian Democratic Union just shut churches, wholly underlines how bad this is!

Posted by: lotita 16th March 2020, 06:00 PM

so i'm lumped into the group who they're announcing that 12 week isolation for next week lmao. gonna buy myself a nintendo switch

Posted by: lotita 16th March 2020, 06:02 PM

omg they've sold out on JL everyone else is panic buying switches

Posted by: blacksquare 16th March 2020, 06:02 PM

QUOTE(Mikal @ Mar 16 2020, 05:32 PM) *
They’ve announced... nothing


Absolutely ridiculous.

Recommending what people and businesses do is pointless — they should be enforced right now. The government just aren't doing enough, and people are either going to go to work contagious or lose their jobs.

Businesses without support will just stay open and customers will continue to use them — what is the alternative?

Posted by: I. :II: z 16th March 2020, 06:14 PM

So without definite ordered closure and no specific safety net, businesses and jobs aren't insulated from the fallout of closing for weeks... does the government want a collapsed economy?

Posted by: Euphorique 16th March 2020, 06:24 PM

Finally Portugal is closing borders.

Heard a really nasty rumor from an italian medical worker saying that in the hospital he works, they are starting to let people over the age of 75 die ohmy.gif

Posted by: T Boy 16th March 2020, 06:28 PM

I can’t believe they’ve said practically nothing. It’s sickening. Maybe it’s just because I’ve had the day from Hell but I can’t believe there are still no enforcements. Loads of kids were missing today because parents just wouldn’t send them in. I’ve started compiling work for classes on google classroom but the atmosphere at school is nuts. I could be off with stress before long.

Posted by: Harve 16th March 2020, 06:29 PM

I don't know from a medical perspective but the UK measures I swear are so dumb from an economic standpoint.

Like, if you only 'recommend' that people avoid pubs and shops then thousands and thousands of businesses - small and large - are gonna go bust and lots of people are gonna lose jobs as insurance will only payout if you're forced to close. Very low footfall ain't gonna mean anything for insurers.

Please just legally oblige places to close, if only so that we only need to bailout the insurance industry rather than dozens and dozens of sectors.

Posted by: The S***e 16th March 2020, 06:29 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 16 2020, 04:26 PM) *
So the WHO press conference there stated that there should be continued tests on people and social distancing on all possible levels be put in place and yet Boris Johnson is putting the opposite plans in place so far although we are waiting for the dear leader to make his daily statement.


Yes there needs to be more testing but getting more ventilators are the #1 priority at the minute. My biggest fear is that we don't have enough of those and difficult and awful decisions will have to be made by doctors as Euphorique hints at above.

Posted by: Euphorique 16th March 2020, 06:30 PM



Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 16th March 2020, 06:32 PM

QUOTE(lotita @ Mar 16 2020, 06:02 PM) *
omg they've sold out on JL everyone else is panic buying switches


!!!!

Posted by: lewistgreen 16th March 2020, 06:34 PM

Idris Elba has posted on Twitter to say he’s been tested positive for it but has no symptoms yet!

Posted by: The S***e 16th March 2020, 06:34 PM

Useful table there. In the US it will could be even higher though than these figures suggest compared to Italy at the same time in their outbreak because of a lack of testing kits.

Where is the UK in comparison to Italy and the US at their equivalent stage I wonder?

Posted by: blacksquare 16th March 2020, 06:34 PM

QUOTE(Harve @ Mar 16 2020, 06:29 PM) *
I don't know from a medical perspective but the UK measures I swear are so dumb from an economic standpoint.

Like, if you only 'recommend' that people avoid pubs and shops then thousands and thousands of businesses - small and large - are gonna go bust and lots of people are gonna lose jobs as insurance will only payout if you're forced to close. Very low footfall ain't gonna mean anything for insurers.

Please just legally oblige places to close, if only so that we only need to bailout the insurance industry rather than dozens and dozens of sectors.


Exactly.


Posted by: Dobbo 16th March 2020, 06:35 PM

The hell does that latest bulletin even mean? What constitutes "essential" social contact??

Posted by: Suedehead2 16th March 2020, 06:36 PM

Some bands etc. are starting to attract criticism for continuing with live dates. However, others have pointed out that, in the absence of any instructions from the government, the act could be liable for all losses sustained by a cancellation. It is, therefore, not surprising that there is a reluctance to cancel.

Similarly, businesses such as restaurants etc. aren't going to close voluntarily if they have no expectation of being compensated for loss of business. If restaurants are forced to close without any financial help, I suspect at least one chain will go out of business along with many small local restaurants sad.gif

Posted by: The S***e 16th March 2020, 06:42 PM

QUOTE
Like, if you only 'recommend' that people avoid pubs and shops then thousands and thousands of businesses - small and large - are gonna go bust and lots of people are gonna lose jobs as insurance will only payout if you're forced to close


A small but significant number of young people with no health conditions who aren't worried about the virus will flout the ban without closure too.

Maybe not just young people too, was quoted on BBC coronavirus live coverage feed yesterday that one elderly lady in Switzerland was interviewed and said she was taking a lot of precautions like handwashing but didn't want to avoid social contact (even though the government advised it). Don't know whether to admire her courage or be dismayed.

Posted by: Klaus 16th March 2020, 06:42 PM

Does a hair cut count as essential contact because I’ll have a mop on my head in 12 weeks time otherwise

Posted by: Euphorique 16th March 2020, 06:44 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 16 2020, 06:42 PM) *
Does a hair cut count as essential contact because I’ll have a mop on my head in 12 weeks time otherwise


I was thinking the same, but in the end I decided my hair can handle being a mess for 2 months, but I cant risk getting sick or passing it on to my parents.

Posted by: The S***e 16th March 2020, 06:45 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 16 2020, 06:42 PM) *
Does a hair cut count as essential contact because I’ll have a mop on my head in 12 weeks time otherwise


Can you not get your hair cut at home if needs be? If not you will have joined the Buzzjack #longhairdon'tcare clan so its not all bad.

Posted by: 🍆 16th March 2020, 06:47 PM

that's the Tory government your country voted for. the government that puts insurance companies' interests over the rest of the citizens.

there's no way IN HELL they didn't consider obliging businesses to close but it's not happening so yeah.

Posted by: Silas EU Later 16th March 2020, 06:50 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 16 2020, 07:42 PM) *
Does a hair cut count as essential contact because I’ll have a mop on my head in 12 weeks time otherwise

They’re one of the few business still allowed to open in Germany, so I’m guessing yes

Posted by: The S***e 16th March 2020, 06:54 PM

QUOTE(Silas EU Later @ Mar 16 2020, 06:50 PM) *
They’re one of the few business still allowed to open in Germany, so I’m guessing yes


I suppose haircuts can be a form of personal hygiene too as much as an aesthetic activity. Still should try and get your hair cut at home if possible imo if you are trying to avoid social contact.

Posted by: Chez Wombat 16th March 2020, 06:54 PM

Utterly ridiculous announcement, Boris really is spineless. Don't ADVISE, DO, otherwise people won't stop. There is no sense in keeping pubs and clubs open at all at this stage.

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 16 2020, 06:28 PM) *
I can’t believe they’ve said practically nothing. It’s sickening. Maybe it’s just because I’ve had the day from Hell but I can’t believe there are still no enforcements. Loads of kids were missing today because parents just wouldn’t send them in. I’ve started compiling work for classes on google classroom but the atmosphere at school is nuts. I could be off with stress before long.


There were literally five people in my class today lmao. We've been given a lot of work from home activities for our training day on Wednesday so I would guess, if there's any sense, that this will be the last full/half week, but I can't trust this government with sense...

I travel almost 90 minutes on public transport to get to my work (I've been trying to leave, though this has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works), I've been washing my hands/using sanitiser several times a day and avoiding most other contact, but it just won't be healthy for me to keep coming in for too much longer (especially as the borough I work has fourteen cases, thankfully only one where I live).

Posted by: dandy* 16th March 2020, 07:26 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 16 2020, 03:00 PM) *
Primark now closed throughout all Europe!!


Darn! That's my route to a cheap alternate to toilet paper closed sad.gif

Posted by: Silas EU Later 16th March 2020, 07:32 PM



If this pattern holds up across Germany it would explain the statistical anomaly that is Germany’s death rate

Posted by: RabbitFurCoat 16th March 2020, 07:50 PM

It's hard to have anything other than a complete lack of confidence in this utterly hapless government. I genuinely despise them.

Posted by: Colm 16th March 2020, 07:53 PM

QUOTE(Dobbo @ Mar 16 2020, 06:35 PM) *
The hell does that latest bulletin even mean? What constitutes "essential" social contact??



Procreation. Like, for the continuation of the species. I bet that's it.

Posted by: Wall 16th March 2020, 07:53 PM

Everything’s being cancelled 😭

While I agree, I’ll still cry

Posted by: dan.G 16th March 2020, 08:04 PM

well apparently theatres in London have been forced to close now, my parents went off tonight to try and get to see Hamilton before their inevitable closure but were too late as they went only to find out it'd been cancelled.

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 16th March 2020, 08:07 PM

QUOTE(Dobbo @ Mar 16 2020, 06:35 PM) *
The hell does that latest bulletin even mean? What constitutes "essential" social contact??

Being genuine for a second it's things like people working in the NHS that obviously need to keep going.

Posted by: dandy* 16th March 2020, 08:07 PM

I'm annoyed that the government haven't just said that places MUST close. I really can't understand why unless they are putting the interests of the banks and insurance companies above the interests of individual businesses.


edit - although I guess there could be some sort of social science at play here. I guess people may be less resentful of it happening if they feel like they are partly choosing it as opposed to being forced.

Posted by: Wall 16th March 2020, 08:16 PM

I also lost my events job today *.*

Things we love to see

Posted by: Klaus 16th March 2020, 08:19 PM

Part of it is for £££ reasons, looking to protect economy as well but I think they’re reluctant to impose isolation now as we’re probs gonna be in it for a long time which will become hard to enforce.

Posted by: Steve201 16th March 2020, 08:28 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 16 2020, 08:07 PM) *
I'm annoyed that the government haven't just said that places MUST close. I really can't understand why unless they are putting the interests of the banks and insurance companies above the interests of individual businesses.
edit - although I guess there could be some sort of social science at play here. I guess people may be less resentful of it happening if they feel like they are partly choosing it as opposed to being forced.



It's a part of Tory ideology - survival of the fittest and individualism.

Posted by: Mack. 16th March 2020, 08:54 PM

Grand National has been cancelled.

Posted by: Euphorique 16th March 2020, 09:15 PM

well Trump just said if the US does its job, they should be able to "wash through" this virus by July or August

Posted by: Steve201 16th March 2020, 09:17 PM

He also didn't think it was a big deal last week so we shall see!

Posted by: The S***e 16th March 2020, 09:21 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 16 2020, 08:19 PM) *
Part of it is for £££ reasons, looking to protect economy as well


If I was really cynical I would say it might be to do with the argument 'If our economy is even slightly better than some of the big EU countries by December it will put us in a stronger position for getting a Brexit deal.'

But I really don't think our government would stoop that low during a matter of life and death.

Posted by: Jack 16th March 2020, 09:34 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 16 2020, 09:21 PM) *
If I was really cynical I would say it might be to do with the argument 'If our economy is even slightly better than some of the big EU countries by December it will put us in a stronger position for getting a Brexit deal.'

But I really don't think our government would stoop that low during a matter of life and death.

Boris probably wants the poor and vulnerable dead really. He doesn't care about a single human being.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 16th March 2020, 09:40 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 16 2020, 09:34 PM) *
Boris probably wants the poor and vulnerable dead really. He doesn't care about a single human being.


Yep!!!! Louder please for the people at the back.

Looks like I'm working from home indefinitely. I'm currently at the point where I'm exploring the outer limits of boredom and slowly going insane (well, more insane).

Posted by: Hadji 16th March 2020, 09:41 PM

My holiday to Benidorm this Friday got cancelled. They gave me the option of postponing the holiday, flying to Marrakech instead of a full refund

Posted by: Liаm 16th March 2020, 09:48 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 16 2020, 08:07 PM) *
edit - although I guess there could be some sort of social science at play here. I guess people may be less resentful of it happening if they feel like they are partly choosing it as opposed to being forced.

Yeah I think this is what they're going for, it's like "you have a bit of a choice" so if you want to "risk" going to see your friend or whatever it's on you, which like WOULD be fine but it's not the time to give choices, suggestions and advice is not gonna work because you give someone that little bit of "freedom" and because pubs etc. are open I think people are gonna go "it must be fine" so still go to places like that.

If the public voted for Brexit and kept the Tories in power, they are gonna do the wrong thing here too laugh.gif

Posted by: Doctor Blind 16th March 2020, 09:49 PM

NEW: The UK only realised "in the last few days" that attempts to "mitigate" the coronavirus pandemic would not work, and that it needed to shift to a strategy to "suppress", according to a report by a team of experts who have been advising the government.
The Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team has been advising SAGE
It found from new data that mitigation would "likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many times over"
Revised modelling from new NHS data and Italy showed a mitigation strategy would surpass NHS emergency surge capacity by as much as eight times, leading to 250,000 deaths in Britain

"In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days"

"We were expecting herd immunity to build. We now realise it’s not possible to cope with that," said Professor Azra Ghani, chair of infectious diseases epidemiology at Imperial.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/coronavirus-uk-strategy-deaths

I know it is not fair to criticise a Government DURING a crisis, but my god are there going to be some repercussions come the summer.

Posted by: Silas EU Later 16th March 2020, 09:52 PM

I’m not a medical scientist by any stretch of the imagination but that just seems like a massive “no shit Sherlock”. Seriously questioning the “experts” on this panel advising the government if they’ve got only just realised that the UKs inaction will kill a shit load of people

Posted by: Envoirment 16th March 2020, 09:53 PM

The whole situation around the virus has made me quite sad. In part due to people's attitudes and that we're likely looking at another shit decade economically, with slashing interest rates and quantitative easing happening once again. It'll likely cause further wealth inequality, further inflate the housing bubble and keep interest rates low - thereby discentivising saving and creating a lot more debt. Perhaps another lost decade incoming - just when I thought things were starting to get better (minus brexit).

One issue with the outbreak is that its timing means we'll likely be having to deal with it until a fairly effective vaccine becomes readily available. It'll likely come back during the 2020-2021 winter season, similar to seasonal flu.


Posted by: lewistgreen 16th March 2020, 09:56 PM

I’ve got to train out our working from home contingency plan tomorrow and I genuinely think come the end of the week that’s what we will be doing. The trouble is the company have selected only a handful of people to be given work laptops and the rest are sat around panicking thinking they’re going to be sent home without pay. This is frightening shit tbh

Posted by: Silas EU Later 16th March 2020, 10:01 PM



On par with Ireland closing pubs, Berlin shutting clubs and the non-Berlin bits of Germany both shutting churches and allowing Sunday shopping..... the Dutch are hamstering weed

Posted by: Suedehead2 16th March 2020, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 16 2020, 09:34 PM) *
Boris probably wants the poor and vulnerable dead really. He doesn't care about a single human being.

That's unfair. He does care about a single human being but it stops at that one - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.

Posted by: Silas EU Later 16th March 2020, 10:48 PM



☝️ Good thread explaining the new EU external border closures being proposed for ASAP implementation

Applies to all EU and Schengen states with the exception of UK/IE unless they opt to align the CTA with the restrictions.

Posted by: Riser 16th March 2020, 10:56 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 16 2020, 02:42 PM) *
Does a hair cut count as essential contact because I’ll have a mop on my head in 12 weeks time otherwise
I'm gonna try to get a haircut tomorrow in case it's my last chance!

Posted by: Mack. 16th March 2020, 11:40 PM

Actor Tom Hanks has been released from a Gold Coast hospital after being quarantined with coronavirus,

Posted by: dandy* 17th March 2020, 12:11 AM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 16 2020, 09:48 PM) *
Yeah I think this is what they're going for, it's like "you have a bit of a choice" so if you want to "risk" going to see your friend or whatever it's on you, which like WOULD be fine but it's not the time to give choices, suggestions and advice is not gonna work because you give someone that little bit of "freedom" and because pubs etc. are open I think people are gonna go "it must be fine" so still go to places like that.

If the public voted for Brexit and kept the Tories in power, they are gonna do the wrong thing here too laugh.gif

I’m still not sure. So many businesses are going to go under at this rate, they will have no income as people avoid them for fear of catching it... and presumably whilst there is no enforced closure they won’t be eligible to claim on insurance. I’m leaning towards it being the government siding with the banks and insurance companies yet again at the expense of so many hard working people.

Posted by: Calum 17th March 2020, 01:55 AM

The horror stories I'm hearing from my work is unreal tbh. One of my friends that I worked with in Aberdeen, who is now a branch manager, had one of her staff come back from a holiday in Italy recently and she's made him stay at work because they're short-staffed and the busiest branch in the UK at the moment :')

I've also had a runny nose and a sore head all day today and my manager doesn't seem to give a shit.

Posted by: ITz Cody 17th March 2020, 03:16 AM

QUOTE(Envoirment @ Mar 16 2020, 02:53 PM) *
The whole situation around the virus has made me quite sad. In part due to people's attitudes and that we're likely looking at another shit decade economically, with slashing interest rates and quantitative easing happening once again. It'll likely cause further wealth inequality, further inflate the housing bubble and keep interest rates low - thereby discentivising saving and creating a lot more debt. Perhaps another lost decade incoming - just when I thought things were starting to get better (minus brexit).

One issue with the outbreak is that its timing means we'll likely be having to deal with it until a fairly effective vaccine becomes readily available. It'll likely come back during the 2020-2021 winter season, similar to seasonal flu.
ive been mulling over this and I think it might be the same for the US. Supposedly the Federal Reserve is cutting interest rates to near zero, so things are already worse than 2008 economically. Service workers, especially restaurant workers, will get hit the hardest: closed restaurants, no service, no cash flow, no money to pay rent. Thousands, if not millions, will be drowning in more debt, and the government isn’t doing much about it other than taking care of the stocks.

That said the last time we had a recession Obama got elected so magic.gif

Posted by: Rooney 17th March 2020, 06:01 AM

I’m in New Zealand and while everything is perfectly normal here my fear is I’m going to be trapped here, my flight back is not for 13 days and I cannot get through to anyone to change my flights.. and it probably doesn’t help I’m nowhere near an international airport. First time I’m a bit panicky as I’ve got make a big choice today whether to risk it or find a flight back!

Posted by: Wall 17th March 2020, 07:35 AM

QUOTE(Rooney @ Mar 17 2020, 06:01 AM) *
I’m in New Zealand and while everything is perfectly normal here my fear is I’m going to be trapped here, my flight back is not for 13 days and I cannot get through to anyone to change my flights.. and it probably doesn’t help I’m nowhere near an international airport. First time I’m a bit panicky as I’ve got make a big choice today whether to risk it or find a flight back!


Fuuuuuuuck

Posted by: HausofKubrick 17th March 2020, 07:47 AM

First human trial for a vaccine is underway in the US.

WHO are now advocating that we protect the young as well as elderly. So schools surely need to close, like NOW? I am so nervous about going into work and the children themselves are terrified too.

Posted by: Jack 17th March 2020, 08:12 AM

Love to see how supportive MP's are in this time of need!


Posted by: Mikal 17th March 2020, 09:45 AM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 17 2020, 08:12 AM) *
Love to see how supportive MP's are in this time of need!



Crazy to see at this time, and she's not even deleted the tweet. It's insane.

We have crisis talks at my work today at 11.30am. We're an event company that specialises in meetings and conferences so our cancellations are totalling in the thousands now.

This is so serious and to see people being so nonchalant about it is making me want to scream!

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 11:35 AM

QUOTE(Hadji @ Mar 16 2020, 09:41 PM) *
My holiday to Benidorm this Friday got cancelled. They gave me the option of postponing the holiday, flying to Marrakech instead of a full refund


Did you see the Brits on twitter in Benidorm yday?

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 11:36 AM

QUOTE(Rooney @ Mar 17 2020, 06:01 AM) *
I’m in New Zealand and while everything is perfectly normal here my fear is I’m going to be trapped here, my flight back is not for 13 days and I cannot get through to anyone to change my flights.. and it probably doesn’t help I’m nowhere near an international airport. First time I’m a bit panicky as I’ve got make a big choice today whether to risk it or find a flight back!


Are you on holidays or seeing family? Would you consider coming home early? Maybe contact the consulate?

Posted by: Klaus 17th March 2020, 11:40 AM

In these odd times, I think it’s worthwhile to have focus on the statistics for recovery from the virus as well. Even more positively it is highly likely there will be much more from those untested cases:


Posted by: Harve 17th March 2020, 11:56 AM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 17 2020, 09:12 AM) *
Love to see how supportive MP's are in this time of need!


I have a few friends who live in this constituency and I know one of them voted for her and that makes me feel sick.

Posted by: dan.G 17th March 2020, 12:09 PM

rumor has it Covid is now a resident in my home street. coming to our house before long then. drama.gif

Posted by: awardinary 17th March 2020, 12:21 PM

Heard Carphone Warehouse is to close all its stores nationwide, focusing on online sales only. sad.gif

Posted by: Silas EU Later 17th March 2020, 12:59 PM

Dominic Raab has advised brits not to leave the country. Some thinly veiled threats to not repatriate people because it’s “expensive”

Germany announced earlier this morning that it was going to spend 50m€ bringing it’s nationals home

QUOTE(awardinary @ Mar 17 2020, 01:21 PM) *
Heard Carphone Warehouse is to close all its stores nationwide, focusing on online sales only. sad.gif

Not corona related but a convenient time to sneak that one out.

Posted by: Jack 17th March 2020, 01:25 PM

All cinemas now closed as well which is understandable. Hope their employees are being looked after however.

Posted by: J00ps 17th March 2020, 01:28 PM

Benefits assessments face to face now cancelled. However no word from the DWP whether this means they'll be auto-granted or auto-rejected. Going by the government's track record I'm not optimistic...

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 01:43 PM

Interesting to see which countries will do best and which will do worst in this pandemic. Will sub-Saharan Africa continue to escape the worst of it? Will the Baltic states and also Mongolia escape the worst of it because of their complete foreign travel bans at a relatively early stage in case numbers/fatalities?

QUOTE(Envoirment @ Mar 16 2020, 09:53 PM) *
It'll likely come back during the 2020-2021 winter season, similar to seasonal flu.


I think we are sure from examples like Spain and Australia that sadly it is not seasonal or affected by weather like flu but yes the UK is set to calm down in terms of new cases by June/July if we follow the same case number graph as China and South Korea. There is a real danger that once restrictions are relaxed it has passed its peak in countries (like in China at the minute) the virus could come back again.

Posted by: Jack 17th March 2020, 01:47 PM

Food banks are now shut sad.gif The vulnerable and poor are really going to suffer.

Posted by: *Tim 17th March 2020, 01:48 PM

QUOTE(dan.G @ Mar 17 2020, 01:09 PM) *
rumor has it Covid is now a resident in my home street. coming to our house before long then. drama.gif

If you just keep your distance from people and dont go around town for no reason, there's limited chance of being infected.
It's not like the virus is gonna knock on your door and walk in lmak

Posted by: Jack 17th March 2020, 01:52 PM

Stanley Johnson has said he would still go the pub – despite his own son’s warning not to do so as part of new social distancing guidance.


The prime minister told the country to “avoid pubs, clubs, theatres and other such social venues”.


Yet Stanley Johnson, 79, told ITV’s This Morning: “Of course I’ll go to a pub if I need to go to a pub.”


Shocked host Phillip Schofield said: “What do you think your son’s going to say to that – he’s just told you not to.”


Johnson Snr. Replied: “No he said we should avoid going to pubs, but if I had to go to a pub I’d go to a pub.” He also said landlords “need a little bit of people … they don’t want people to be not in the pub at all”.



f***ing hell :')

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 01:55 PM

You don't HAVE to go to the pub!

Posted by: Dobbo 17th March 2020, 02:04 PM

Telling people they can't do something (or rather "not recommend" it) will incite some to do the exact opposite even if they weren't planning on in the first place. Another human trait, the inherent middle finger.

Posted by: Liаm 17th March 2020, 02:05 PM

"If I need to!!"


oh my lord

The sad thing is I think there's gonna be a fair amount of people the same. I'm working a close shift tonight so I'm interested to see if Boris announcing this yday affects how much custom we get today! I heard people yesterday when it broke saying "if it was that bad they'd close it" so advising against something just isn't enough to stop everyone.

Posted by: blacksquare 17th March 2020, 02:11 PM

Oh, wow.


Posted by: Euphorique 17th March 2020, 02:26 PM

The problem is you're never gonna go back to normal anytime soon, not until a vaccine is out. Take Macau as an example, they got it under control, people started to go out again, and the limitations and border restrictions were lifted, and the number of cases started to rise again - so now they're closing borders again. Not all countries are at the same stage of the disease, so lifting restrictions once you start to see a decline doesnt seem efficient.

Posted by: J00ps 17th March 2020, 02:52 PM

Frankly at this point I say let people be stupid. The kind of people who voted for Brexit are the same kind about to risk themselves to go to the pub etc. and also in the at risk categories. Nature is sending a sign. The only way such people will learn if at all is by example.

E: by which I meant bullheaded people, not the exact same group of people who voted for Brexit (& are thus expendable). I don't believe that that's the case.

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 02:57 PM

QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 17 2020, 02:52 PM) *
Frankly at this point I say let people be stupid. The kind of people who voted for Brexit are the same kind about to risk themselves to go to the pub etc. and also in the at risk categories. Nature is sending a sign. The only way such people will learn if at all is by example.


Similar with the people who still went to northern Italy at the start of the outbreak even when it was advised not to and brought the virus back to the UK (although in this case the travel companies and government were also at fault for not compensating people who would lose their money if they would have cancelled). Advising doesn't work only banning does. I know the UK is not a dictatorship but desperate times call for desperate measures.

Posted by: Bré 17th March 2020, 03:29 PM

QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 17 2020, 02:52 PM) *
Frankly at this point I say let people be stupid. The kind of people who voted for Brexit are the same kind about to risk themselves to go to the pub etc. and also in the at risk categories. Nature is sending a sign. The only way such people will learn if at all is by example.


I really hope you don't legitimately think this. If anyone is allowed to 'be stupid' it hurts everyone because it spreads the disease further, this post reads like 'I'm ok with the virus spreading if it means that people I disagree with politically suffer'. unsure.gif

Posted by: Cqmerqn 17th March 2020, 03:37 PM

I’m now in isolation and I have no idea how I’m gonna cope being indoors for so long. My work are delivering work to my house, so that’s something to do at least :’)

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 17th March 2020, 03:59 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 17 2020, 08:12 AM) *
Love to see how supportive MP's are in this time of need!



When a Tory's mask slips. I love watching that happen.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 17th March 2020, 04:34 PM

My headteacher today stated that (from a head medical person apparently not Linda on Facebook) that there is a chance that schools closing/lockdown etc could last until October/November depending on when the outbreak peaks in the UK. This is why they are delaying as much as possible because we really could be in this for the LONG RUN. Obviously closing everything down NOW would reduce the peak but they are biding time until NHS/hospitals are ready.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 17th March 2020, 04:37 PM

I had an open chat with my class today. There was some casual racism which I stamped out (but I understood where their views came from, and they were just innocently assuming things that weren't true). They were also worried about what this would mean for their exams (which they have been preparing for for a year now). I also shared a lot of positive statistics to help calm some of them down. It is a frightening time for US, let alone 10/11 year olds. We really need to protect children's mental health and reassure them wherever possible. But also encourage them to support the elderly and stamp out any misconceptions they have - which were plenty!

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 05:14 PM

Our offices are coded tomorrow but we have to go in and then work from home I imagine.

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 05:16 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Mar 17 2020, 04:34 PM) *
My headteacher today stated that (from a head medical person apparently not Linda on Facebook) that there is a chance that schools closing/lockdown etc could last until October/November depending on when the outbreak peaks in the UK. This is why they are delaying as much as possible because we really could be in this for the LONG RUN. Obviously closing everything down NOW would reduce the peak but they are biding time until NHS/hospitals are ready.


Surely isolation for a 8 week period say will get all the people with it and isolate them and make them better and then it rids the virus because it has nowhere to go?

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 05:28 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Mar 17 2020, 04:34 PM) *
My headteacher today stated that (from a head medical person apparently not Linda on Facebook) that there is a chance that schools closing/lockdown etc could last until October/November depending on when the outbreak peaks in the UK. This is why they are delaying as much as possible because we really could be in this for the LONG RUN. Obviously closing everything down NOW would reduce the peak but they are biding time until NHS/hospitals are ready.


That's the way to push the graph above the NHS capacity level at the peak meaning there won't be enough ventilators and more people will die.* If we delay spread by closing non essential places that will make more time to prepare the NHS anyway.

*although I fear the UK government not taking the same hardline path as Europe means its already too late to avoid this.

Posted by: Klaus 17th March 2020, 05:33 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 17 2020, 05:16 PM) *
Surely isolation for a 8 week period say will get all the people with it and isolate them and make them better and then it rids the virus because it has nowhere to go?

Once people come out of a quarantine, it begins to spread again I think.

This is the best article I’ve seen re controlling the spread and it helped it make sense for me. https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2fgraphics%2f2020%2fworld%2fcorona-simulator%2f

Posted by: J00ps 17th March 2020, 05:34 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Mar 17 2020, 03:29 PM) *
I really hope you don't legitimately think this. If anyone is allowed to 'be stupid' it hurts everyone because it spreads the disease further, this post reads like 'I'm ok with the virus spreading if it means that people I disagree with politically suffer'. unsure.gif


Its nothing to do with politics, that was just a similar example. Reckless and thoughtless people did that, and reckless and thoughtless people will ignore all advice in this case too. The more you tell them no, the more they will dig in their heels and resist. So what can be done? Well as we've seen with Brexit as a prior example, not much. Certain people's minds are made up that they know best.

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 17 2020, 05:33 PM) *
This is the best article I’ve seen re controlling the spread and it helped it make sense for me. https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2fgraphics%2f2020%2fworld%2fcorona-simulator%2f


That doesn't mean Prof Whitty and Boris Johnson's plan is right. Enforcing social distancing is be more effective than just advising against it. A lot of people, particularly some young people not at risk of dying from the virus will still ignore the advice. That means the virus will be around for ages and case numbers won't start to decline like in China/South Korea at the moment.

Posted by: Addy K!ng 17th March 2020, 05:52 PM

Italy death numbers are really concerning.

In 3-4 days they will actually have more deaths than China with less number of infected people sad.gif

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Addy K!ng @ Mar 17 2020, 05:52 PM) *
Italy death numbers are really concerning.

In 3-4 days they will actually have more deaths than China with less number of infected people sad.gif


And that's with the stat that apparently 51% of men smoke in China which would have also attributed to some of the deaths.

Posted by: Calum 17th March 2020, 06:02 PM

What's the official guidance re. underlying health conditions now? I've had a look at gov.uk but it's not exactly clear lmao.

Had to have a one-to-one with my manager today about health conditions, etc and I do have more than one (albeit none respiratory), but unsure what I need to do? unsure.gif Phoned my GP for advice too and he basically said 'it is an underlying health condition so tell them that'.

Posted by: Suedehead2 17th March 2020, 06:09 PM

QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 17 2020, 05:34 PM) *
Its nothing to do with politics, that was just a similar example. Reckless and thoughtless people did that, and reckless and thoughtless people will ignore all advice in this case too. The more you tell them no, the more they will dig in their heels and resist. So what can be done? Well as we've seen with Brexit as a prior example, not much. Certain people's minds are made up that they know best.

Some people may just want to show support for a local pub or restaurant. Yesterday's announcement was the last thing pub and restaurant owners wanted to hear. If the government had forced these businesses to close, the owners would have been able to claim for lost business from either their insurance company or the government. For as long as the current "advice" is in place, they have no such claim.

Some of the chains have sent out emails outlining the additional precautions they are taking. I would guess that at least some smaller restaurants are taking the same measures. They may also decide to reduce their number of tables to maintain a greater distance between them.

Posted by: Suedehead2 17th March 2020, 06:14 PM

The Science Museum has just sent out an email saying that it will be closed indefinitely from tonight. Presumably the other major museums will follow suit.

Posted by: awardinary 17th March 2020, 06:19 PM

Center Parcs to close all its UK family parks from March 20th.

https://www.centerparcs.co.uk/village-news/general-news.html

Posted by: T Boy 17th March 2020, 06:36 PM

More kids off today, we will be five teachers short tomorrow, the schools simply cannot last past the end of this week. One school in my area is already closed.

Posted by: Wall 17th March 2020, 06:38 PM

So after being let go of my part time events job due to insufficient work, My full time work seem to be getting ready to close their offices too with only a selected amount based on how long they’ve been there getting to work for home. I’m actually starting to shit myself because I’ve got a lot of bills to be paid and have next to no faith in this government to help.

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 06:43 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ Mar 17 2020, 05:33 PM) *
Once people come out of a quarantine, it begins to spread again I think.

This is the best article I’ve seen re controlling the spread and it helped it make sense for me. https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2fgraphics%2f2020%2fworld%2fcorona-simulator%2f


Good article that, cheers!

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 06:56 PM

Why is the British government a week behind every other EU country in this - they are a disgrace and putting lives/livelihoods at risk!

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 17 2020, 06:36 PM) *
More kids off today, we will be five teachers short tomorrow, the schools simply cannot last past the end of this week. One school in my area is already closed.


Yes there is now more people within the teaching profession saying this apparently https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51910835

Posted by: Suedehead2 17th March 2020, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(Wall @ Mar 17 2020, 06:38 PM) *
So after being let go of my part time events job due to insufficient work, My full time work seem to be getting ready to close their offices too with only a selected amount based on how long they’ve been there getting to work for home. I’m actually starting to shit myself because I’ve got a lot of bills to be paid and have next to no faith in this government to help.

If the worst happens, be sure to talk to your bank and the people whose bills you need to pay.

Posted by: JosephInSpace 17th March 2020, 07:12 PM

My school asked all the staff to let them know about any health conditions (those listed by the NHS as being a risk) today and those who replied have been advised not to come into work until further notice - me included as I have asthma. School's open for years 7, 10 and 11 due to a lack of staff available as a result (plus some already self-isolating).

Posted by: Bré 17th March 2020, 08:06 PM

QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 17 2020, 05:34 PM) *
Its nothing to do with politics, that was just a similar example. Reckless and thoughtless people did that, and reckless and thoughtless people will ignore all advice in this case too. The more you tell them no, the more they will dig in their heels and resist. So what can be done? Well as we've seen with Brexit as a prior example, not much. Certain people's minds are made up that they know best.


What can be done is enforcing stricter policies as everyone in this thread, except apparently you, is begging the government to do lol ~

I don't think it's a healthy attitude to be comparing people ignoring objective medical advice to people that disagree with you on politics but hey xx

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 08:14 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Mar 17 2020, 08:06 PM) *
What can be done is enforcing stricter policies as everyone in this thread, except apparently you, is begging the government to do lol ~


I am quite sure Jupiter did express his support for stricter policies on here before.

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(JosephInSpace @ Mar 17 2020, 07:12 PM) *
My school asked all the staff to let them know about any health conditions (those listed by the NHS as being a risk) today and those who replied have been advised not to come into work until further notice - me included as I have asthma. School's open for years 7, 10 and 11 due to a lack of staff available as a result (plus some already self-isolating).


Do people of any age with asthma have to stay home?

Posted by: dandy* 17th March 2020, 08:22 PM

If you have asthma then I think you're in the at risk category.

Posted by: J00ps 17th March 2020, 08:26 PM

Guess 2020 is another year where my posts are going to get misread then :')

With respect Bré, I was making a valid comparison based on a shared set of values observed very visibly by everyone in the country over the last 36 months. The category 'people-who-supported-Brexit' was (I thought) the most obvious and accessible example of certain people within the country trusting their own personal feelings over any kind of expert advice, even when the expert advice ran directly contrary to what their pre-existing beliefs were.

That was just one example group. I could have said anti-vaxxers or abstention-only sexual educators.

What I was emphatically not doing was saying that the actual group of people who voted for Brexit ran the risk of being more susceptible to coronavirus and because they supported that we should leave them to it. If that was your conclusion, you've misread me.

Posted by: JosephInSpace 17th March 2020, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 17 2020, 08:20 PM) *
Do people of any age with asthma have to stay home?

This was the list:

• aged 70 or older (regardless of medical conditions)
• under 70 with an underlying health condition listed below (ie anyone instructed to get a flu jab as an adult each year on medical grounds):
So I fall into under 70 with asthma and have been told to stay home for the forseeable future...!

Posted by: T Boy 17th March 2020, 08:33 PM

My BMI is above 40 so maybe I can work from home from Monday.

I expect the school to be closed by then though.

Posted by: Bré 17th March 2020, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 17 2020, 08:26 PM) *
Guess 2020 is another year where my posts are going to get misread then :')

With respect Bré, I was making a valid comparison based on a shared set of values observed very visibly by everyone in the country over the last 36 months. The category 'people-who-supported-Brexit' was (I thought) the most obvious and accessible example of certain people within the country trusting their own personal feelings over any kind of expert advice, even when the expert advice ran directly contrary to what their pre-existing beliefs were.

That was just one example group. I could have said anti-vaxxers or abstention-only sexual educators.

What I was emphatically not doing was saying that the actual group of people who voted for Brexit ran the risk of being more susceptible to coronavirus and because they supported that we should leave them to it. If that was your conclusion, you've misread me.


I think we'll have to agree to disagree about that being a valid comparison, I disagree with comparing political disagreement to denying science (I get what you were going for and I'll accept you're not literally saying you want Brexit voters to suffer from the virus, I just don't think this is something that should be brought into the conversation at all). But whatever, that's not really the main point anyway, as you said it has nothing to do with politics so let me rephrase my original reply to you:

QUOTE
I really hope you don't legitimately think this. If anyone is allowed to 'be stupid' it hurts everyone because it spreads the disease further, this post reads like 'I'm ok with the virus spreading if it means that people I disagree with politically stupid people suffer'. unsure.gif


Am I still misunderstanding your point? I don't know how else to possibly read that post, you literally said 'let people be stupid'. Sure there are probably people who are so stubborn that they'll do everything they can to defy anything the government does to try and stop the spread but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't even try which is what your post really looks like it's implying.

Posted by: The S***e 17th March 2020, 09:26 PM

QUOTE
a learning disability or cerebral palsy


I didn't know these conditions raised the risk too. But just looked it up - cerebral palsy can apparently affect the immune system in some cases.

That's why it was reported that special schools (hate that term though) closed first in Northern Ireland.

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 10:12 PM

QUOTE(JosephInSpace @ Mar 17 2020, 08:29 PM) *
This was the list:

• aged 70 or older (regardless of medical conditions)
• under 70 with an underlying health condition listed below (ie anyone instructed to get a flu jab as an adult each year on medical grounds):
  • chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
  • chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
  • chronic kidney disease
  • chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
  • chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson’s disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
  • diabetes
  • problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
  • a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
  • being seriously overweight (a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or above)
  • those who are pregnant
So I fall into under 70 with asthma and have been told to stay home for the forseeable future...!


Ok thanks for posting, I'm going to bring this up in work tomorrow and see what they say.

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 10:26 PM

Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

Posted by: J00ps 17th March 2020, 10:37 PM

Ok re Bré, with the rephrase - point was just exasperation at people's stubbornness, not literally to completely stop trying. I do believe though that for some people the only thing to get through to them will be tangible consequences. That's just being realistic based on the pattern & being in denial over that imo is unhelpful. That could just be my work talking /shrug

Posted by: Cqmerqn 17th March 2020, 10:40 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 17 2020, 10:26 PM) *
Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

That’s still devastating...

Posted by: 🍆 17th March 2020, 10:41 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 18 2020, 01:26 AM) *
Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

i'd rather get it and help with research over the effects and subsequent cure and stuff than be scared to go outside for the rest of the year (i am not but yeah)

Posted by: Bré 17th March 2020, 10:54 PM

I'm not personally scared of getting it myself as I'm not in an at-risk group but I would be worried about passing it onto my parents if I did get it (although realistically the only way I'd get it would probably be if someone else in my family gets it first anyway, I don't really ever come into contact with any other people at the moment lol).

Posted by: Steve201 17th March 2020, 11:16 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Mar 17 2020, 10:40 PM) *
That’s still devastating...


Absolutely!

Posted by: *Tim 18th March 2020, 12:17 AM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 17 2020, 11:26 PM) *
Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

I'm currently experiencing a mild form of it,but having your lungs "attacked" by a virus is no fun.

I also don't thino a 20k deathrate is quite high, especially for a country that is supposed to have good healthcare since y'all are rich etc

Posted by: Severin 18th March 2020, 12:42 AM

I'm not worried about getting it personally. I almost feel like it would be getting it over with. I'm young and healthy enough that I'll probably be ok.

What worries me is passing it on to others who are vulnerable or who will be in contact with those who are at risk.

It's all about breaking the chain of transmission

Posted by: J00ps 18th March 2020, 12:43 AM

Would need to know rough death rates for regular flu/pneumonia etc. to really compare if that's high or not in the scheme of things.

Posted by: lotita 18th March 2020, 12:45 AM

my housemate has symptoms so we’re following the advice and going into isolation for 14 days. wish me luck

I’m running out of inhalers so hoping the pharmacy will deliver to me sad.gif

Posted by: Severin 18th March 2020, 12:48 AM

QUOTE(J00ps @ Mar 18 2020, 12:43 AM) *
Would need to know rough death rates for regular flu/pneumonia etc. to really compare if that's high or not in the scheme of things.

2018/19 flu deaths in the UK were just below 1800. That's despite effective vaccines being in place

Posted by: Silas EU Later 18th March 2020, 09:08 AM

Personally I’m not worried about getting it, as others have also said I’m young and healthy enough to fight it off. I’m already on WFH and I’m new in the city/country so don’t have a social life yet to speak of and I don’t have any family members nearby to pass it on to. #SingingAllByMyselfIntoAWineBottle

I do worry about my sister who works in a supermarket and is a student nurse contracting it and passing it on to my dad who ticks a few of the risk categories.

In the meantime, I’m waiting for us to become the next country to enter full lockdown and that’s wholly fine by me.

Posted by: 🍆 18th March 2020, 09:19 AM

It definitely doesn't help I'm showing signs of flu right now oops. Having swollen glands (just one though) for the first time ever so obviously I'm panicking oops. I was wondering if buying 150 TP rolls can help me??1 @CrazyChris

I have a monthly vet appointment tomorrow morning so fingers crossed i catch something x

Posted by: Lukuzz 18th March 2020, 09:43 AM

Hate all the uncertainty of it all at the minute. I work in a call centre for Baclays with 3 packed floors and it's all just carry on as normal unless you have symptoms, but even those who clearly have symptoms have still been coming in. No option to work from home and we're all in close proximity to eacv other.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 18th March 2020, 10:46 AM

Things just got a little bit closer to home for me, as my brother & his girlfriend are now in the 2 week self isolation period after one of them developed a cough. He lives in a different city so I'm not under quarantine at the moment.

Posted by: *Tim 18th March 2020, 11:26 AM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 18 2020, 01:17 AM) *
I'm currently experiencing a mild form of it,but having your lungs "attacked" by a virus is no fun.

My lungs have started to open back uo again and I feel as if there is now only a kid pushing on my chest instead of a 80kilo person

Posted by: 🍆 18th March 2020, 12:25 PM

Russia banned foreigners from entering the country until May 1.

EU is also banning entry for non-EU residents (except if they have non-tourist visas, etc.).

Fun.

Posted by: dan.G 18th March 2020, 12:52 PM

glastonbury has been cancelled today.

Posted by: Silas EU Later 18th March 2020, 01:45 PM

Schools will be closed in Scotland and Wales from the end of this week. Expectations are that England will very soon follow with this measure

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 18th March 2020, 01:49 PM

Eurovision and Glastonbury have been cancelled.

Posted by: Jack 18th March 2020, 01:57 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 18 2020, 01:49 PM) *
Eurovision and Glastonbury have been cancelled.

As well as Parklife

Pussycat Dolls? Still on and no announcement lmao

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 18th March 2020, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(�� @ Mar 18 2020, 09:19 AM) *
It definitely doesn't help I'm showing signs of flu right now oops. Having swollen glands (just one though) for the first time ever so obviously I'm panicking oops. I was wondering if buying 150 TP rolls can help me??1 @CrazyChris

I have a monthly vet appointment tomorrow morning so fingers crossed i catch something x


Where is common sense, anyway?? He can't have contracted it. His toilet paper fort is too strong!

Posted by: BrookeOlivia 18th March 2020, 02:20 PM

2,626 testing positive now, Up 676 from yesterdays 1.950 total.

Posted by: The S***e 18th March 2020, 02:36 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 18 2020, 11:26 AM) *
My lungs have started to open back uo again and I feel as if there is now only a kid pushing on my chest instead of a 80kilo person


So this is almost certain you are the first person on Buzzjack to have the virus? ohmy.gif

Posted by: Quarantilas 18th March 2020, 02:42 PM



Ryanair Self-isolating

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 18th March 2020, 03:20 PM

Ma dentist is in isolation over it! Ma teeth, ma teeth! Going next week instead.

Posted by: *Tim 18th March 2020, 04:23 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 18 2020, 02:57 PM) *
As well as Parklife

Pussycat Dolls? Still on and no announcement lmao

Postponed till October

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 18 2020, 03:36 PM) *
So this is almost certain you are the first person on Buzzjack to have the virus? ohmy.gif

What an honour, I feel blessed
(pretty sure someone else couldve had it but justbwith a minor cough or something)

Posted by: Chez Wombat 18th March 2020, 04:39 PM

So my college is finally closing now and will be working from home from Monday (and I expect the rest of England to follow soon). This is such a new thing for my role and for the teachers at college so it's gonna take some getting used to, but I'm certainly glad to be rid of the commute. If one positive comes out of all this, it's that virtual learning and technologies can be fully utilised.

Posted by: Dobbo 18th March 2020, 04:44 PM

Looks like the UK will be in full lockdown from Friday.

Edit: just London

Posted by: Mack. 18th March 2020, 05:19 PM

All schools closed on Friday afternoon to further notice.

Posted by: The S***e 18th March 2020, 05:23 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 18 2020, 01:57 PM) *
As well as Parklife

Pussycat Dolls? Still on and no announcement lmao


I assume there won't be any T in the Paaarrrraaarrrkk* either





* reference to iconic Radio 1 advert a few years ago

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 18th March 2020, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(Dobbo @ Mar 18 2020, 04:44 PM) *
Looks like the UK will be in full lockdown from Friday.

Edit: just London


So the rumours are just for London then?

In Spain, you are now allowed to take pets for walks. People have been walking tortoises and teddies to get around the lockdown rules and go out!!

Posted by: T Boy 18th March 2020, 05:47 PM

Closing the schools had to happen. I just can’t believe I have two days to go, kids will be wild if they even turn up.

I’ll be setting weekly work for all if them online. At least I won’t have the pastoral shit for a while, it might help my mental health.

Posted by: BridgeCow 18th March 2020, 05:59 PM

Omfg I’m gonna lose it how is there no solid answer for exams

I’m gonna be at home Monday like??? What is happening I’m so scared

Absolutely praying they don’t postpone exams til the summer that is my complete nightmare

Posted by: Dobbo 18th March 2020, 06:10 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 18 2020, 05:38 PM) *
So the rumours are just for London then?

In Spain, you are now allowed tot ake pets for walks. People have been walking tortoises and teddies to get around the lockdown rules and go out!!


Yeah there was a bit of a buzz about it at work and from a few internet articles I read but nothing concrete as of yet. Perhaps it'll be announced tomorrow to then commence from Friday

Posted by: Steve201 18th March 2020, 06:53 PM

QUOTE(Mack. @ Mar 18 2020, 05:19 PM) *
All schools closed on Friday afternoon to further notice.


Saying until September ohmy.gif

Posted by: HausofKubrick 18th March 2020, 07:12 PM

Agreed with everything in the government's statement regarding education and keeping schools open for children of key workers and those with special circumstances. Going to be an emotional two days coming up!

Posted by: T Boy 18th March 2020, 07:43 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Mar 18 2020, 07:12 PM) *
Agreed with everything in the government's statement regarding education and keeping schools open for children of key workers and those with special circumstances. Going to be an emotional two days coming up!


I know it’s weird, isn’t it? It’s the right call and I won’t lie, I will enjoy not having to go in to an extent. But I’m so devastated for the kids who’s hard work might have been wasted.

Posted by: Dobbo 18th March 2020, 07:51 PM

I think back to if I was a kid and tbh would have felt like today all my christmases came at once. Obv I wouldn't have appreciated the wider implications and if it was year 10+ that'd be shit, i remember how stressful year 13 and all the UCAS jazz was regardless so my heart goes out to all those in that position now. I truly hope some sort of arrangements/ agreements can be made as that is such a significant bearing on one's life! Can't undermine it.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 18th March 2020, 07:59 PM

QUOTE(Dobbo @ Mar 18 2020, 07:51 PM) *
I think back to if I was a kid and tbh would have felt like today all my christmases came at once. Obv I wouldn't have appreciated the wider implications and if it was year 10+ that'd be shit, i remember how stressful year 13 and all the UCAS jazz was regardless so my heart goes out to all those in that position now. I truly hope some sort of arrangements/ agreements can be made as that is such a significant bearing on one's life! Can't undermine it.

Normally I would agree, but today did not feel like Christmas for them - they were TERRIFIED. What we have to remember is that school is a safe space for so many children - the only place where they can laugh and play and interact with peers. Some facing the prospect of being at home for the forseeable future is a horrid state to be in. If your home life is secure and loving then this is great, but otherwise + those scared about the virus itself, it's a nightmare. sad.gif

Posted by: T Boy 18th March 2020, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Dobbo @ Mar 18 2020, 07:51 PM) *
I think back to if I was a kid and tbh would have felt like today all my christmases came at once. Obv I wouldn't have appreciated the wider implications and if it was year 10+ that'd be shit, i remember how stressful year 13 and all the UCAS jazz was regardless so my heart goes out to all those in that position now. I truly hope some sort of arrangements/ agreements can be made as that is such a significant bearing on one's life! Can't undermine it.


It’s the exam groups I’m talking about. The rest of them will be proper enjoying it until they get bored because they can’t do anything. As Head of Year 7, I will NOT be missing that side of things!

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 18th March 2020, 08:01 PM

I'm year 12 so I'm not really impacted by the exams cancelling (other than mocks which can be done at the start of the next school year), but I'm not sure how I'll cope potentially being off from school for 6 months.

And I'm one of those that actually *enjoy* going to school laugh.gif so I'm a bit depressed at the thought of not being in again for ages. I get so much more work done at school, enjoy the camaraderie, and coursework will be massively delayed as I need the school's film equipment for it. So I really hope that it's safe for schools to open again before July.

Posted by: Suedehead2 18th March 2020, 08:10 PM

Teachers at the school where I've been working will all be setting work for their classes. The students are expected to do that work in the time they would normally be in the relevant lesson.

It's the year 11s who are currently being left in limbo. We know they won't be doing their GCSEs in May/June but we have not been given any idea whether they will be taken at a later date.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 18th March 2020, 09:07 PM

Head has emailed us - teaching staff may be required to work during the Easter holidays too, perhaps with supporting at risk children/families or other duties around school to make up for lost time.

Posted by: 🍆 18th March 2020, 09:18 PM

can you imagine if it was holiday time right now. at least people had calm Christmas before everything blew up

Posted by: lewistgreen 18th March 2020, 09:20 PM

I’m now ready to work from home so just waiting for the inevitable announcement but I’m continuing to go into the office, because we’ve been asked to, until we’re told otherwise

Posted by: Chez Wombat 18th March 2020, 09:36 PM

There are students I'm supporting that are final year students that don't take exams, but do a final assessment which determines their grade. The deadlines were set for the start of May so they'll definitely be pushed forward or scrapped, it's manageable for students to do the majority of it at home although it's gonna be hard as they are very media/art based and may be deprived of materials. Really hope they find a way to deal with this as they'll need the grades for universities although it'll certainly be a system-wide thing.

Posted by: coi 18th March 2020, 09:44 PM

My uni closes this weekend as well, actually can't wait to go home laugh.gif

Really interested to see what happens with the exam situation as it still seems pretty unclear at the moment and I was doing those just last year!

Posted by: Houdini 18th March 2020, 09:51 PM

QUOTE(Dobbo @ Mar 18 2020, 04:44 PM) *
Looks like the UK will be in full lockdown from Friday.

Edit: just London

I will be surprised if the whole of the UK is not in lockdown by next week. With almost everything shutting down one by one it's only a matter of time until a lockdown becomes official.

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 18th March 2020, 09:53 PM

The National Trust are opening up all their gardens for free to encourage people to get out still even though the houses and cafés are shut.

Posted by: zenon 18th March 2020, 10:00 PM

QUOTE(The S***e @ Mar 18 2020, 07:23 PM) *
I assume there won't be any T in the Paaarrrraaarrrkk* either
* reference to iconic Radio 1 advert a few years ago


Announced last year that T in the Park is no more.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 18th March 2020, 10:03 PM

TRNSMT is basically T in the Park with a different name anyway

Posted by: Quarantilas 18th March 2020, 10:19 PM

T in the Park died when it left Balado.

Posted by: Wall 18th March 2020, 10:28 PM

Never a truer word spoken

Posted by: Social Hisstance 18th March 2020, 10:57 PM

QUOTE(PeteFromLeeds @ Mar 18 2020, 09:53 PM) *
The National Trust are opening up all their gardens for free to encourage people to get out still even though the houses and cafés are shut.


I usually like the National Trust. But...

What an idiotic idea. Just because it's outside doesn't mean the virus can't transmit. Will do far more harm than good, the gardens will be crowded especially at the entrance leading to spread of the virus.

Posted by: Mack. 18th March 2020, 11:29 PM

Local pubs around me still open. As for food, I got essentials.

Posted by: Mack. 18th March 2020, 11:32 PM

TFL have announced that trains and Underground are to reduce certain Services and close 40 Underground Stations from Monday.

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 19th March 2020, 11:33 AM

QUOTE(Social Hisstance @ Mar 18 2020, 10:57 PM) *
I usually like the National Trust. But...

What an idiotic idea. Just because it's outside doesn't mean the virus can't transmit. Will do far more harm than good, the gardens will be crowded especially at the entrance leading to spread of the virus.

National Trust gardens aren't exactly like your back garden, they'll likely be just as spread out as any other public space right now (just a bit nicer).

Posted by: Steve201 19th March 2020, 12:34 PM

The number of confirmed cases in Germany has risen to 12,853, with the number of deaths reaching 34.

Politicians, police and prominent figures appealed to Germans to ‘stay at home’, or risk the introduction of curfews as in France, amid widespread evidence that many people are still not sufficiently reducing their movements to halt the spread of coronavirus.


The Robert Koch Institute, the leading public health body in Germany, has said it is planning to track mass amounts of mobile phone data, to establish whether Germans are reducing their movements enough.

Deutsche Telekom is giving it access to the anonymous data of millions of its customers. A data protection ombudsman has said the measures are acceptable, as long as the data remains anonymous. The move would usually raise the hackles of those who recall the mass surveillance of German citizens in the communist east by the state police, the Stasi, but in general it is being seen as an acceptable measure in desperate times.

Curfews could be imminent. Bavaria’s minister president, Markus Söder, said: “I understand that the isolation of many people is very difficult, but if you don’t restrict yourselves, there will be no other possibility. In Bavaria there are more than 1,700 confirmed infections and 14 people have died.

The mayor of Berlin, Michael Müller said he was appalled by the lack of consideration many Berliners were showing. “People do not understand. It is unacceptable that people are actually inviting each other to Corona parties. It is terrible!” he said.

He also condemned the extent to which people were stockpiling, saying there was no need to do so.

A curfew for the 3.6m Berliners could not be ruled out, he said. The German capital has 519 confirmed cases so far.

Posted by: Riser 19th March 2020, 02:22 PM

Germany's stats are interesting. They have more cases than the US, France and the UK, but significantly fewer deaths than all three, so they must be doing something right?

Posted by: Jacob :O 19th March 2020, 02:48 PM

Germans are very health conscious as a rule, my cousin lives in Germany atm and I video called her yesterday. People are much more likely to go the doctors, keep themselves healthy and of course their health service is pretty great.

Not so great at curfews though it would seem.

Posted by: Quarantilas 19th March 2020, 03:09 PM

I haven’t seen the full breakdown of the statistics but I posted the Berlin breakdown a few pages back that showed the 18-50 bracket makes up an unusually large portion of the cases here. The city has said a third of all cases in the city trace back to a single night at a club. Not usually known for its 80+ market laugh.gif

If those numbered are replicated across the nation then that would account for the significantly lower death rate.


A lot of businesses have closed here and restaurants and cafes have adjusted hours but so so so many of them haven’t put any ban on eat-in business or enforced any social distancing. Same for all of the supermarkets and stuff. They’re often small and cramped in the inner city and there’s no social distancing at all. The parks are still very full. BVG, the TfL equivalent, has cut services across the board but all it’s lead to is overcrowded buses. They’re now rapidly reversing some bus cuts. The trams that I saw this morning were very quiet for rush hour. Lots of green spaces, and this is an insanely green city, have massive groups of people in them

It’s already a struggle to get some supplies. (No milk, bread, loo roll, frozen or long life items) so the no stockpiling is being wholly ignored.


Being honest, I don’t think it will be long before we’re on a full lockdown given the volume of people still going about life as normal. I imagine other parts of the country will heed Merkels words more, but a substantial part of Berlins population, especially of the low risk of death but highly likely to be superspreaders, are non-German 18-45 year olds*. A full lockdown is the only way to stop this spiralling out of control.

On that note, I’m going to venture out to the Edeka up the street to see if it has milk. Wish me luck!!!


*myself included. By this i mean there’s a good chunk of people who don’t speak German and therefore a lot of the news and guidance is passing them without sinking in. The Federal government is trying to provide translations but Merkels excellent speech from last night is only available in German except for some short clips on DW with subs. Lockdown only way to really get the message out effectively to this expat population that i am part of in my opinion

Posted by: *Tim 19th March 2020, 03:29 PM

QUOTE(Riser @ Mar 19 2020, 03:22 PM) *
Germany's stats are interesting. They have more cases than the US, France and the UK, but significantly fewer deaths than all three, so they must be doing something right?

I've seen comments that that Germany is only reportig deaths solely due to corona. So someone who was dieing of cancer already wouldnt be counted. Not sure how true that is but the deathrate in Germany seems off

This outbreak has made me realise how dependent I am on being surrounded by people :'). I feel like I'm going crazy, I havent spoken to someone face to face for only 6 days

Posted by: Social Hisstance 19th March 2020, 04:25 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 19 2020, 03:29 PM) *
I've seen comments that that Germany is only reportig deaths solely due to corona. So someone who was dieing of cancer already wouldnt be counted. Not sure how true that is but the deathrate in Germany seems off


The US deathrate seems unusually low too compared to other places, perhaps they are doing the same. Maybe Iran too.

QUOTE(PeteFromLeeds @ Mar 19 2020, 11:33 AM) *
National Trust gardens aren't exactly like your back garden, they'll likely be just as spread out as any other public space right now (just a bit nicer).


I also read they are taking precautions with social distancing so maybe my criticism was too much.

Speaking of your own gardens, do hedges block coronavirus spread if your neighbour is outside on a nice day and has it? Hopefully but I am not taking chances. Luckily I have a big enough garden to find a spot away from neighbours' gardens if they are out.

Posted by: blacksquare 19th March 2020, 04:30 PM

Has anyone read the new https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0122/en/20122en.pdf? Authoritarian power grab would be a good description.

Posted by: Social Hisstance 19th March 2020, 04:34 PM

QUOTE(blacksquare @ Mar 19 2020, 04:30 PM) *
Has anyone read the new https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0122/en/20122en.pdf? Authoritarian power grab would be a good description.


The government has to be authoritarian during times like these. My only complaint is this all should have happened sooner before over 100 people had died from the virus. Yes I am a big fan of the hardline approach!

Posted by: blacksquare 19th March 2020, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Social Hisstance @ Mar 19 2020, 04:34 PM) *
The government has to be authoritarian during times like these. My only complaint is this all should have happened sooner before over 100 people had died from the virus. Yes I am a big fan of the hardline approach!


There is a difference between implementing important measures to save lives and being opportunistic to serve your agenda.

This bill allows immigration officers the ability to detain people they think are infected for the next two years — or longer. There are more alarming little nuggets like that scattered throughout.

Posted by: Suedehead2 19th March 2020, 04:57 PM

The anti-terrorism laws have to be renewed every 28 days. Even the emergency powers in WWII had to be renewed annually. The government's proposals contain no such provision. That is why people are calling it a power grab.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 19th March 2020, 04:59 PM

QUOTE(blacksquare @ Mar 19 2020, 05:30 PM) *
Has anyone read the new https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0122/en/20122en.pdf? Authoritarian power grab would be a good description.


There's been a suggestion that Westminster should administer an extraordinary https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/03/london-lockdown-coronavirus-uk-national-government, similar to WW1 or WW2, on the basis that such draconian measures shouldn't be left in the hands of just one party. Whether or not Labour, the SNP, or other less relevant parties will agree to that, or even if the Tories will even allow it, remains to be seen, but I can see the logic behind it.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 19th March 2020, 05:08 PM

No, I am really starting to think that common semse has caught it - probably from a panic-buying trip! It's doubly ironic, especially seeing as he did it wrong and bought toilet paper instead of food! But he hasn't been on since Tuesday and hasn't even posted about his victory in the chart thread ohmy.gif

Posted by: Bré 19th March 2020, 05:12 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 19 2020, 05:08 PM) *
No, I am really starting to think that common semse has caught it - probably from a panic-buying trip! It's doubly ironic, especially seeing as he did it wrong and bought toilet paper instead of food! But he hasn't been on since Tuesday and hasn't even posted about his victory in the chart thread ohmy.gif


He got given a 10% warn on Sunday that triggered an auto suspension by the looks of things xx

Posted by: Social Hisstance 19th March 2020, 05:13 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Mar 19 2020, 05:12 PM) *
He got given a 10% warn on Sunday that triggered an auto suspension by the looks of things xx


What was he given a warn for? Is seeming to encourage panic buying a warn-able offence now.

Posted by: Steve201 19th March 2020, 06:18 PM

Though he was quite quiet for once!

Posted by: Social Hisstance 19th March 2020, 06:21 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 19 2020, 06:18 PM) *
Though he was quite quiet for once!


I do miss him though. He provides a bit of humour and lighthearted relief in what is an understandably mostly serious and downbeat thread.

Posted by: Steve201 19th March 2020, 06:24 PM

He's just laughable because he plays devils advocat so obviously and when I point it out he sends me a PM to stop it 😂

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 19th March 2020, 06:32 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Mar 19 2020, 06:24 PM) *
He's just laughable because he plays devils advocat so obviously and when I point it out he sends me a PM to stop it 😂


rotf.gif

Posted by: T Boy 19th March 2020, 06:36 PM

So I won’t be as at home as previously thought. It’s likely our school will be a ‘resistance hub’ and we’re all going on Monday to find out how many kids we need to cater for. We’all probably be rota’d on for a day a week whilst still having to provide online work for kids at home.

And at some point I’m sure the government will tell us what we’re actually supposed to be doing with these kids besides glorified babysitting.

Posted by: Steve201 19th March 2020, 07:44 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 19 2020, 06:36 PM) *
So I won’t be as at home as previously thought. It’s likely our school will be a ‘resistance hub’ and we’re all going on Monday to find out how many kids we need to cater for. We’all probably be rota’d on for a day a week whilst still having to provide online work for kids at home.

And at some point I’m sure the government will tell us what we’re actually supposed to be doing with these kids besides glorified babysitting.


So basically kids who's parents work in jobs like the NHS or supermarkets will continue to send kids to school?

We have to have 25% of the workforce in and the rest home. Although an update came through this afternoon stating people over 70 & with underlying health issues should work from home so I have forwarded that to my manager to ask if I should stay home. I actually don't mind going in when it's like this as it's dead and you can do more in work inhouse. Plus towns DEAD!!


Posted by: 🍆 19th March 2020, 08:31 PM

My neck lymph node has become absolutely huge and it hurts to open my mouth fully. It's most likely not related to this at all but I was wondering if any of the infected people had this as well. I started to experience flu-like symptoms right before that but there's no fever or anything. Clearly I have some kind of infection or it's just flu my body is battling against so my immune system is too busy dealing with that. Therefore I'm feeling weird to go to the doctor now oops

What a time to get sick and overanalyse everything <3

Posted by: Steve201 19th March 2020, 08:35 PM

So have you got it then? I would ring the doctor if your worried.

Posted by: 🍆 19th March 2020, 08:37 PM

Corona? How would I know? In theory it's very unlikely that I got it because I barely talked to anyone IRL since last Saturday but you never know.

Posted by: *Tim 19th March 2020, 08:54 PM

QUOTE(🍆 @ Mar 19 2020, 09:31 PM) *
My neck lymph node has become absolutely huge and it hurts to open my mouth fully. It's most likely not related to this at all but I was wondering if any of the infected people had this as well. I started to experience flu-like symptoms right before that but there's no fever or anything. Clearly I have some kind of infection or it's just flu my body is battling against so my immune system is too busy dealing with that. Therefore I'm feeling weird to go to the doctor now oops

What a time to get sick and overanalyse everything <3

The sympons I experienced were
- Pressure on my lungs as if someone was constantly pushing down my chest
- Sore throat
- Dry cough
- Headache (although just 1 day)
- Coughing up slime
- Sore muscles

No fever for me either

Posted by: 🍆 19th March 2020, 09:02 PM

I had sore throat but it disappeared right away. No fever at all. Sore muscles and general weakness are my two main symptoms.

Posted by: J00ps 19th March 2020, 09:20 PM

QUOTE(🍆 @ Mar 19 2020, 09:02 PM) *
I had sore throat but it disappeared right away. No fever at all. Sore muscles and general weakness are my two main symptoms.


Could be something like glandular fever. I had that for ages and my throat glands were huge - or felt so. I thought I had something really serious but it was just quite annoying.

Posted by: Umi 19th March 2020, 09:48 PM

I know it's not the end of the world in relation to everything else but what's distressing me so much right now is the hoarding. I am so tired of going into supermarkets recently and either finding them utterly empty or seeing queues out the door. I desperately don't want to be one of those people queueing up at 7am to get in and yet I'm starting to wonder how else I'm ever going to get pretty much any actual food. I'm trying to go at social hours and buy reasonable amounts but it's empty empty empty, and worse every day. You can't tell a virus not to kill people but we *can* control our attitude and the fact that the entire country is making a concerted effort to *not* be even remotely social is just so upsetting to me. Solitary confinement under a pandemic is stressful enough without adding in worrying about actually having food because people are filling entire freezers with anything they can find.

Again, small thing, and I mean no disrespect to the disease that is hanging over all of our heads, but this situation would be at least slightly less disheartening if it wasn't bringing out the worst in eeeeeeeveryone. Seeing people act this way is just destroying me at the moment.

Posted by: Steve201 19th March 2020, 11:21 PM

QUOTE(🍆 @ Mar 19 2020, 08:37 PM) *
Corona? How would I know? In theory it's very unlikely that I got it because I barely talked to anyone IRL since last Saturday but you never know.


Hard to know I guess with the lack of testing, keep well!

Posted by: Jαsє 19th March 2020, 11:54 PM

QUOTE(🍆 @ Mar 19 2020, 09:02 PM) *
I had sore throat but it disappeared right away. No fever at all. Sore muscles and general weakness are my two main symptoms.


I'd be shocked if it was corona if you don't have a fever. Wishing you the best!

Posted by: *Tim 20th March 2020, 12:59 AM

QUOTE(Jαsє @ Mar 20 2020, 12:54 AM) *
I'd be shocked if it was corona if you don't have a fever. Wishing you the best!

Fever is not even a 100% guarantee. It is only likely in the 15% that get heavier symptons. The rest get off with a cough

Posted by: Addy K!ng 20th March 2020, 01:41 AM

Over 4k cases only in New York City...they just started doing more tests yesterday and this tells me that the virus has been here much earlier than we thought!!!

Posted by: Houdini 20th March 2020, 04:27 AM

Spring break is more important than life or death for some people!


Posted by: 🍆 20th March 2020, 03:34 PM

QUOTE(🍆 @ Mar 19 2020, 11:31 PM) *
My neck lymph node has become absolutely huge and it hurts to open my mouth fully. It's most likely not related to this at all but I was wondering if any of the infected people had this as well. I started to experience flu-like symptoms right before that but there's no fever or anything. Clearly I have some kind of infection or it's just flu my body is battling against so my immune system is too busy dealing with that. Therefore I'm feeling weird to go to the doctor now oops

What a time to get sick and overanalyse everything <3

Turns out this was infected salivary glands on the right side of my face caused by a cold. I have antibiotics and everything should be fine in a few days if treatment works yay!

Posted by: Addy K!ng 20th March 2020, 03:43 PM

QUOTE(🍆 @ Mar 20 2020, 04:34 PM) *
Turns out this was infected salivary glands on the right side of my face caused by a cold. I have antibiotics and everything should be fine in a few days if treatment works yay!


So we're still 0 cases in Buzzjack tongue.gif

joking aside I am glad you figured it out and that you have a treatment for it!!!

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 20th March 2020, 03:54 PM

Is Tim a joke to you??

Posted by: *Tim 20th March 2020, 03:56 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 20 2020, 04:54 PM) *
Is Tim a joke to you??

!!!!!

The rudeness of it all

Posted by: Addy K!ng 20th March 2020, 04:32 PM

Did Tim tested positive though, or he was just dealing with common cold?!!


Posted by: *Tim 20th March 2020, 05:01 PM

No I did not test positive cause they only test you when you're in hospital here. This was no common cold though so I think this in combination with my lifestyle (very much person to person contact) and hardly ever sick gives me a fair certainty

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 20th March 2020, 05:05 PM

Living for Addy being a rude bitch!!

Poor Tim sad.gif First he had the corona and now he has shade thrown at him at 1 million miles an hour

Posted by: Addy K!ng 20th March 2020, 05:11 PM

^^ LOL shut up.

I hope you're feeling better now Tim...didn't know it was so serious!!!

Posted by: *Tim 20th March 2020, 05:23 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 20 2020, 06:05 PM) *
Living for Addy being a rude bitch!!

Poor Tim sad.gif First he had the corona and now he has shade thrown at him at 1 million miles an hour


Lmaooo michael u mess
QUOTE(Addy K!ng @ Mar 20 2020, 06:11 PM) *
^^ LOL shut up.

I hope you're feeling better now Tim...didn't know it was so serious!!!

Yeah my lungs have opened back up again so I'm mostly good now

Posted by: Liam.k. 20th March 2020, 05:26 PM

All pubs, clubs and restaurants must close from tonight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51981653?fbclid=IwAR0IwLqezfrrrSwmUMG2Yh6hpkV4y1KNjJ0PcA2juFYrGvC57PNrmzE7H9o

Posted by: Dobbo 20th March 2020, 05:28 PM

Inevitable that was really. So my last restaurant visit for many many months was a Greek last night!

The closing of gyms & leisure centres is the crippler for me. Gonna have to get me an exercise bike...

Posted by: Liam.k. 20th March 2020, 05:29 PM

It's got me out of doing 5 closes all next week at least! laugh.gif

Posted by: dandy* 20th March 2020, 05:32 PM

The death toll in Italy rose by 627 today, jeeeez sad.gif

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 20th March 2020, 05:35 PM

MA GYM!!!!

Posted by: Dobbo 20th March 2020, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 20 2020, 05:32 PM) *
The death toll in Italy rose by 627 today, jeeeez sad.gif


That video doing the rounds of Bergamo hospital is gut-wrenching.

Posted by: Addy K!ng 20th March 2020, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 20 2020, 06:32 PM) *
The death toll in Italy rose by 627 today, jeeeez sad.gif


situation there it's really sad sad.gif

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 20th March 2020, 05:41 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Mar 20 2020, 05:32 PM) *
The death toll in Italy rose by 627 today, jeeeez sad.gif


In one day?? ohmy.gif Poor Italy sad.gif

If we were just going to shut everything down, why did we not do it sooner?? I don't understand. Italy, Germany, France and Spain reacted much more quickly.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 20th March 2020, 05:47 PM

QUOTE(STREAMSTUPIDLOVE @ Mar 20 2020, 05:41 PM) *
In one day?? ohmy.gif Poor Italy sad.gif

If we were just going to shut everything down, why did we not do it sooner?? I don't understand. Italy, Germany, France and Spain reacted much more quickly.


Its odd though that our situation isn't worse. Our death rate is extremely low compared to other countries (at the moment). Given how long it took to introduce things, you'd expect the death toll here to be worse.

Unless its going to get worse, quickly

Posted by: dandy* 20th March 2020, 05:56 PM

Remember it hit Italy far sooner than us. I don’t think we can really tell how it’s going until we see the effects of this next period.

Posted by: Dobbo 20th March 2020, 05:57 PM

Yes it is interesting to compare the death rates. As you said us, and an even stronger example in Germany, seem to be nowhere near as bad at present. We're behind on the curve so you just hope this won't follow quite the same surge. Then there's the way cases are reported between different nations that will be playing a part...

Posted by: Addy K!ng 20th March 2020, 05:59 PM

I don't know where did I read but apparently in Italy 51% of population are heavy smokers therefore making it harder for people especially elderly to recover.

I am getting concerned about my dad who is 74 and heavy smoker as well, even though in Kosovo I think they only have like couple of cases so far...matter fact 90% of people in Kosovo smokes!!

Posted by: 🍆 20th March 2020, 06:02 PM

Yeah I don’t believe the virus has so far made its way to the region my mother and sister live so at least that.

Posted by: Addy K!ng 20th March 2020, 06:05 PM

taken from UKMIX

'UK changes announced tonight...
The government will cover up to 80% of people's salaries (up to £2,500 per month, per person).
All pubs, clubs, gyms, museums, cinemas and restaurants are ordered to close indefinitely from midnight tonight.
£1 billion has been pledged to support renters.
No companies will need to pay VAT over the next 3 months.
There will be interest free loans to businesses (12 months interest free).
An additional £1,000 in Universal Credit per claimant per year + an additional £1,000 in working tax credit.'

I wanna move to UK!!!

Posted by: Euphorique 20th March 2020, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(Dobbo @ Mar 20 2020, 05:57 PM) *
Yes it is interesting to compare the death rates. As you said us, and an even stronger example in Germany, seem to be nowhere near as bad at present. We're behind on the curve so you just hope this won't follow quite the same surge. Then there's the way cases are reported between different nations that will be playing a part...


Some countries might be reporting deaths by the corona virus only, and not because of associated illnesses that got worse cause of the virus.

Peak in Italy is estimated to be 2 weeks from now. Could really hit the 100,000 cases

Posted by: Harve 20th March 2020, 06:15 PM

QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ Mar 20 2020, 06:47 PM) *
Its odd though that our situation isn't worse. Our death rate is extremely low compared to other countries (at the moment). Given how long it took to introduce things, you'd expect the death toll here to be worse.

Unless its going to get worse, quickly

Britain has been shutting down at around 100-200 deaths whereas Italy, with a similar population, went through the process two weeks ago when they were at 200-400 deaths, although local quarantines were enacted earlier. It's an imperfect comparison as the virus has spread differently in the two countries (Italy initially had easily identifiable clusters consisting of small towns with relatively few outside of them whereas the UK's cases are already more widely distributed) but all we can do is hope that it won't be https://vimeo.com/398334975.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 20th March 2020, 06:20 PM

QUOTE(Addy K!ng @ Mar 20 2020, 06:05 PM) *
taken from UKMIX

'UK changes announced tonight...
The government will cover up to 80% of people's salaries (up to £2,500 per month, per person).
All pubs, clubs, gyms, museums, cinemas and restaurants are ordered to close indefinitely from midnight tonight.
£1 billion has been pledged to support renters.
No companies will need to pay VAT over the next 3 months.
There will be interest free loans to businesses (12 months interest free).
An additional £1,000 in Universal Credit per claimant per year + an additional £1,000 in working tax credit.'

I wanna move to UK!!!

Whatever we say about our government and decisions/opinions they have and have had, this (if it all goes ahead and comes into fruition), is extremely admirable and just. I am very impressed.

Posted by: zenon 20th March 2020, 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Euphorique @ Mar 20 2020, 08:13 PM) *
Some countries might be reporting deaths by the corona virus only, and not because of associated illnesses that got worse cause of the virus.

Peak in Italy is estimated to be 2 weeks from now. Could really hit the 100,000 cases


I though it was supposed to peaking there around now.

Posted by: Jack 20th March 2020, 06:42 PM

Consider me shook at the UK government introducing this.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 20th March 2020, 06:44 PM

QUOTE(Addy K!ng @ Mar 20 2020, 07:05 PM) *
taken from UKMIX

'UK changes announced tonight...
The government will cover up to 80% of people's salaries (up to £2,500 per month, per person).
All pubs, clubs, gyms, museums, cinemas and restaurants are ordered to close indefinitely from midnight tonight.
£1 billion has been pledged to support renters.
No companies will need to pay VAT over the next 3 months.
There will be interest free loans to businesses (12 months interest free).
An additional £1,000 in Universal Credit per claimant per year + an additional £1,000 in working tax credit.'

I wanna move to UK!!!


And people laughed at me when I said that this Conservative government would be the most economically left-wing in history. Admittedly, I didn’t realise that 3 months in we would have a BLOODY PLAGUE to deal with, but still.

Posted by: Euphorique 20th March 2020, 06:48 PM



Chinese experts helping italians, are saying their quarentine isn't strict enough. Which means Portugal is f***** since our quarentine is more lax than theirs.

Posted by: Klaus 20th March 2020, 06:56 PM

Astonishing move from the Government and very pleasing to see. Some reassurance in some very scary times.

Posted by: dandy* 20th March 2020, 07:04 PM

Such an unexpected surprise from the government there. Will do so much to ease the levels of worry for people during an already difficult time.

Posted by: Suedehead2 20th March 2020, 07:11 PM

I shall wait to see how the government scheme works for people on zero-hours contracts before commenting.

Posted by: lewistgreen 20th March 2020, 07:12 PM

I’m now being classed as a ‘key worker’, have all the provisions to work from home yet I still have to go to the office on Monday??? EXPLAIN

Posted by: Steve201 20th March 2020, 07:13 PM

Always nice to see a Tory government shaking the magic money tree!

Posted by: *Tim 20th March 2020, 07:31 PM

QUOTE(Harve @ Mar 20 2020, 07:15 PM) *
Britain has been shutting down at around 100-200 deaths whereas Italy, with a similar population, went through the process two weeks ago when they were at 200-400 deaths, although local quarantines were enacted earlier. It's an imperfect comparison as the virus has spread differently in the two countries (Italy initially had easily identifiable clusters consisting of small towns with relatively few outside of them whereas the UK's cases are already more widely distributed) but all we can do is hope that it won't be https://vimeo.com/398334975.

Italy was also testing earlier + more than the UK has been so 🤷‍♂️

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 20th March 2020, 08:09 PM

Having wine and raspberries in me garden on soggy lawn furniture.they can take away me gym, but tha canae take away me freedom ta set ootseed!!

Posted by: Harve 20th March 2020, 08:17 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 20 2020, 08:31 PM) *
Italy was also testing earlier + more than the UK has been so 🤷‍♂️

That's why I would look at deaths, even though some cases aren't even confirmed till post-mortem, rather than diagnoses.

Posted by: blacksquare 20th March 2020, 08:39 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Mar 20 2020, 07:11 PM) *
I shall wait to see how the government scheme works for people on zero-hours contracts before commenting.


Same, as a self-employed person who rents, there isn't much here to help.

But the rest is impressive, and I don't want to take that away from anyone.



Posted by: HausofKubrick 20th March 2020, 09:28 PM

Meanwhile in the US:


Posted by: jakewild 20th March 2020, 09:48 PM

rishi would get it

also stay safe etc x

Posted by: Jack 20th March 2020, 11:31 PM

Does anyone else have fleeting moments when you really think about what's happening and you're just like .... this can't ACTUALLY be happening??? like surely this is all just a bad dream??????

sad.gif.

Posted by: Suedehead2 20th March 2020, 11:33 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 20 2020, 11:31 PM) *
Does anyone else have fleeting moments when you really think about what's happening and you're just like .... this can't ACTUALLY be happening??? like surely this is all just a bad dream??????

sad.gif.

Yes. It's all so far from what even oldies like me have experienced that it can be quite hard to take it all in.

Posted by: STREAMSTUPIDLOVE 20th March 2020, 11:36 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 20 2020, 11:31 PM) *
Does anyone else have fleeting moments when you really think about what's happening and you're just like .... this can't ACTUALLY be happening??? like surely this is all just a bad dream??????

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This.

Posted by: Mack. 20th March 2020, 11:42 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 21 2020, 12:31 AM) *
Does anyone else have fleeting moments when you really think about what's happening and you're just like .... this can't ACTUALLY be happening??? like surely this is all just a bad dream??????

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Yes, I have those moments too. It's been tough to take it all in.

Posted by: Mack. 20th March 2020, 11:54 PM

They'll be stockpiling on booze now with the pubs closing.

Posted by: Toilet Rollo 21st March 2020, 12:05 AM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 20 2020, 11:31 PM) *
Does anyone else have fleeting moments when you really think about what's happening and you're just like .... this can't ACTUALLY be happening??? like surely this is all just a bad dream??????

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Yes,I'm finding the whole thing to be overwhelming. There's not really anything that isn't affected by this. I just want to hear one day that the number of new cases is less than it was the day before,then I'll feel that some progress is being made.

Posted by: Rooney 21st March 2020, 04:53 AM

I’m stuck in New Zealand, please take this virus seriously, still have high spirits but it’s a stressful time.

So many people back in the uk are not taking this seriously. The only way things are going to get better is by limiting social contact as much as possible, we need to get through this. Going to volunteer on weekends to help others in need I think once I get back.

Posted by: Purple Kecleon 21st March 2020, 07:20 AM

QUOTE(Jack @ Mar 20 2020, 04:31 PM) *
Does anyone else have fleeting moments when you really think about what's happening and you're just like .... this can't ACTUALLY be happening??? like surely this is all just a bad dream??????

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It always tends to feel that way whenever you’re just bombarded with negativity, whether it be from the news, social media, or on your own backyard. I feel that same burden of helplessness where it seems like every force is wearing you down.

In times like these, we turn to each other for strength. We come together to pick up the pieces and find that last strand of hope and belief that things will get better. If you feel uneasy, don’t hesitate to come to any of us for a shoulder to cry on. heart.gif heart.gif

Posted by: *Tim 21st March 2020, 05:25 PM

Italy reporting nearly 800 deaths in a day :/
They are gonna take a long time recovering from this

Posted by: shadow2009 21st March 2020, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Mar 21 2020, 05:25 PM) *
Italy reporting nearly 800 deaths in a day :/
They are gonna take a long time recovering from this

Surely the effects of the lockdown there will start to slow those numbers down in the next few days? Every time I see the number rise I get more and more worried.

Posted by: Hadji 21st March 2020, 07:07 PM

One person in my home town of Telford has died due to this pandemic

Posted by: *Tim 21st March 2020, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(shadow2009 @ Mar 21 2020, 07:07 PM) *
Surely the effects of the lockdown there will start to slow those numbers down in the next few days? Every time I see the number rise I get more and more worried.

I hope so, they've been in lockdown for quite some time but realistically we'll see a slow down from like the 10th day

Posted by: Scene 21st March 2020, 10:21 PM

I'm actually so angry at the idiots in the UK who casually disregard urgent advice. There's a photo doing the rounds on Facebook of dozens of people sitting along a beach drinking beer in plastic cups. Clearly a local business is supplying this to them which should surely be forbidden? People need to realise that if this virus gets even more out of hand, they can't rewind time and change their actions.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 21st March 2020, 10:27 PM

I'm starting to thing that we're only a few days away from serious lockdown in the UK if people don't get their act together ie army on the streets, no leaving the house except for shopping or if you're a key worker, ID card giving you permission to leave your home, that sort of thing.

Posted by: shadow2009 21st March 2020, 10:36 PM

Italy are imposing more restrictions on their lockdowns - all non essential factories closing as well.

Posted by: Mack. 22nd March 2020, 12:04 AM

This is worrying:


Posted by: Calum 22nd March 2020, 12:17 AM


Posted by: Mack. 22nd March 2020, 12:22 AM

Is that Matt Lucas from Little Britain?

Posted by: dandy* 22nd March 2020, 12:36 AM

Yep! It was on the airport based show he and David Williams did, that character was always finding reasons to close early

Posted by: dandy* 22nd March 2020, 12:38 AM

By the way, if anyone is struggling to find any soap then Nuddy are giving away a bar to each customer as long as you pay the £1.97 postage.

I’ve just ordered one as it has to be better than trying to find one in a supermarket

Posted by: Botchia 22nd March 2020, 10:17 AM

QUOTE(Calum @ Mar 22 2020, 12:17 AM) *


Omg icon *.*

Posted by: blacksquare 22nd March 2020, 11:59 AM



I hope, when this is all over, people actually hold the government account.

Posted by: diva thin muffin 22nd March 2020, 12:34 PM

So my roommate works at a home for the elderly. Some idiot came into work while sick (actually showing symptoms and everything) but they haven't been tested yet but an elderly man is now showing symptoms as well so now not only am I possibly going into quarantine later today by proxy (although I have been self-quarantining for a week now) but it's possibly already spread around that elderly home which is sad and could potentially be disastrous sad.gif

No one has died from this in Iceland yet but there are a few severe cases. We're have one of the highest number of cases per capita (almost 500 cases now in total) but we also have the second-highest number of samples taken per capita (only behind Faroe Islands) so that might explain the high number.

Posted by: Suedehead2 22nd March 2020, 12:42 PM

QUOTE(blacksquare @ Mar 22 2020, 11:59 AM) *


I hope, when this is all over, people actually hold the government account.

From what the government were saying just a couple weeks ago, this genuinely was their strategy, The big flaw was that, if 60 - 80% of the people get it, that's a lot of deaths even with a mortality rate of around 3%.

There was a brilliant (and now uncannily prescient) illustration of how herd immunity works in last year's Royal Institution Christmas Lectures - starting about 22 minutes in.


Posted by: Jordan Lee 22nd March 2020, 01:08 PM

If I have a dental appointment this week does this mean I’ll have to go by myself to it?

Going there is legit my biggest fear and I can’t go without someone else being there. I don’t want to ring them incase I sound ridiculous but with this going on I feel like if I take someone with me they’ll ask them to go away

Posted by: Suedehead2 22nd March 2020, 01:23 PM

QUOTE(Jordan Lee @ Mar 22 2020, 01:08 PM) *
If I have a dental appointment this week does this mean I’ll have to go by myself to it?

Going there is legit my biggest fear and I can’t go without someone else being there. I don’t want to ring them incase I sound ridiculous but with this going on I feel like if I take someone with me they’ll ask them to go away

I’m sure dentists are used to that sort of question and won’t think it is ridiculous. They don’t go into dentistry expecting to be popular!

Posted by: shadow2009 22nd March 2020, 01:29 PM

This is completely selfish but I genuinely worry about my mental health if we're on lockdown. I live within five minutes walking distance from my parents/siblings house and my grandparents house and genuinely am considering just getting quarantined at one of their houses instead. My own flat is a dump which I don't mind but I have the most ANNOYING upstairs neighbour in history. She has three border collies and they bark non f***ing stop. She does nothing to discipline them, it's just endless bursts of random barks followed by her shouting "shut up!" all day long from 8am til 11pm. You can hear their tails wagging on their floor and it creates a thumping noise through my ceiling, they run around constantly and it feels like the ceiling is going to collapse and we also share a tiny garden/porch so anytime she lets them out in the garden they're barking aggressively at neighbours madly. I've had so many run-ins with her over the years and even had a dog warden out but nothing changes.

I manage to avoid hearing it when I go to work but on my days off it makes me want to f***ing smash her windows and scream at her to f***ing muzzle the dogs. I genuinely couldn't go on lockdown for months and have to listen to this 24/7 or someone is going to get hurt.

Posted by: Scene 22nd March 2020, 04:00 PM

QUOTE(shadow2009 @ Mar 22 2020, 02:29 PM) *
This is completely selfish but I genuinely worry about my mental health if we're on lockdown. I live within five minutes walking distance from my parents/siblings house and my grandparents house and genuinely am considering just getting quarantined at one of their houses instead. My own flat is a dump which I don't mind but I have the most ANNOYING upstairs neighbour in history. She has three border collies and they bark non f***ing stop. She does nothing to discipline them, it's just endless bursts of random barks followed by her shouting "shut up!" all day long from 8am til 11pm. You can hear their tails wagging on their floor and it creates a thumping noise through my ceiling, they run around constantly and it feels like the ceiling is going to collapse and we also share a tiny garden/porch so anytime she lets them out in the garden they're barking aggressively at neighbours madly. I've had so many run-ins with her over the years and even had a dog warden out but nothing changes.

I manage to avoid hearing it when I go to work but on my days off it makes me want to f***ing smash her windows and scream at her to f***ing muzzle the dogs. I genuinely couldn't go on lockdown for months and have to listen to this 24/7 or someone is going to get hurt.


It sounds like you need to move out ASAP (although I guess it's easier said than done). Quarantining with your family sounds the healthier option.

Posted by: lewistgreen 22nd March 2020, 04:18 PM

I've literally just had a similar experience with my previous neighbour whose dog just barked the whole time but wouldn't believe me because they weren't around to witness it :')

Now i've moved my mental health has improved so much because of how much quieter it is. If you can take measure to minimise negative living enviornments especially with a possible lockdown imminent (e.g. staying with a friend or relative) then it may be worth doing so.

Posted by: Mack. 22nd March 2020, 04:58 PM

Germany are to ban more than two people meeting in public for the next two weeks.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 22nd March 2020, 05:22 PM

281 deaths in the U.K. sad.gif

Posted by: Klaus 22nd March 2020, 05:26 PM

Any deaths are horrible but, minor positive is that it is 80 lower than Italy was at same stage, hopefully relieving those direct comparisons we were seeing.

Posted by: Addy K!ng 22nd March 2020, 05:26 PM

Italy and Spain are hit the worst so far in Europe.

Posted by: Quarantilas 22nd March 2020, 05:55 PM




Womp there it is. I’m officially in lockdown

Posted by: Cqmerqn 22nd March 2020, 06:00 PM

Taking bets on which day next week we’ll be in lockdown.

I’m going for Wednesday

Posted by: Queefantine 22nd March 2020, 06:02 PM

Thursday

Posted by: Jack 22nd March 2020, 06:08 PM

I reckon give it a week, Friday.

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