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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Sugababes _ Siobhan Donaghy \ Ghosts - A Decade On

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner Aug 19 2017, 11:23 PM

Can you freaking believe it? Ghosts is a decade old! ohmy.gif


^full album


2007 was a fab year to be a Sugababes fan with Mutya, Siobhan and 3.0 all releasing in the same year.

Released on June 25th 2007, fun fact - the day after I turned 18, Siobhan's sophomore album peaked at 92 but received universal acclaim from critics. Remaining a masterpiece of pop a decade on, how do y'all feel about it?


Don't Give It Up - https://vimeo.com/23927204

So You Say



This whole era's aesthetic was utterly magnificent. Don't Give It Up's video in particular is just sublime. I really think she could rerelease this now (same videos) and it would fell current rather than a decade old. It was just so far ahead of it's time, it's a criminal shame this album was overlooked because it's spectacular.



My absolute favourites are Don't Give It Up, Ghosts, Medevac & 12 Bar Acid Blues. All 4 are proper 11/10 moments.

Posted by: tommie Aug 20 2017, 04:23 AM

Both this and Revolution in me needed to be released about two years later... Revolution In Me 15 (!!!) years old next year. Time flies!

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner Aug 20 2017, 10:21 AM

Ghosts could have been rereleased at any point over the past decade. It criminally underperformed.

With the name saga dragging on I say that they should rerelease it now while Siobhan is on Matt leave. It's not as if she actually needs to do anything with videos already filmed. A wee push for Don't Give It Up and tack a few unreleased tracks onto the album and boom suddenly the babes are semi-relevant again

Posted by: breezyspice Sep 7 2017, 06:32 PM

Siobhan is my favorite female vocalist, like ever. She is magical.

12 Bar Acid Blues would be my karaoke jam if a) I could sing and b) even liked karaoke.

Posted by: Simon. Sep 14 2017, 05:21 PM

QUOTE(breezyspice @ Sep 7 2017, 07:32 PM) *
Siobhan is my favorite female vocalist, like ever. She is magical.

12 Bar Acid Blues would be my karaoke jam if a) I could sing and b) even liked karaoke.


or c) if there ever was a karaoke version of it out there laugh.gif

Love this album! SO underrated it hurts.

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner Sep 16 2017, 03:08 PM

We should petition Siobhan tbh.

It would be amazing at karaoke!!



Weirdly it's my go to when travelling for good luck laugh.gif

Posted by: blacksquare May 22 2021, 10:32 AM

One of the most underrated pop albums ever by one of the most underrated, underserved and forgotten British artists ever? I think so. Just a victim of being an artist releasing in the wrong era of the music industry — she could have easily been one of those acclaimed pop artists that the indie crowd support via social media and keep afloat with gigs.

It kills me, with all that potential, knowing she didn't make another album.

Posted by: PAJ May 22 2021, 10:44 AM

I’ve said it before but Ghosts is one of my all time favourite albums. I’d love a deluxe/anniversary edition with a lot of bonus material. The b-sides, the unreleased songs, she could easily make it 20 tracks. That’s an additional 8 to the standard 12. Hopefully next year for the 15 year anniversary.

Posted by: Quarantilas May 22 2021, 10:52 AM

Defo agree Blacksquare. She is criminally underrated as an artist and Ghosts is in particular. It’s still a spectacular masterpiece of an album

It’s got such a timeless sound to it. Listening to it now, literally, it just doesn’t sound like it’s 14 years old. Theres a lot of acclaimed artists that get a lot of media attention and love from the public that aren’t even 1% as good as Ghosts is. Not even being hyperbolic for once. It’s a remarkable piece of work.


I did read once that Siobhan said she wouldn’t record a third solo record because she’d never be able to better ghosts and tbh I get it.

Posted by: Chemistry May 22 2021, 11:18 AM

I can only echo what has been said before, this is a true masterpiece and probably one of my favourite albums of all time. Like blacksquare, I also believe this fell victim to being released in the wrong time. I am sure it would have done so much better in the streaming/ social media era. Of course I don't see this becoming a chart smash, as it's a bit too out there for commercial radio, but it would have been way easier for music fans to find her. 2007 was a strange time in music, just between the decline of physical sales and the start of heavy social media and later streaming.

At the same time, I do appreciate it being such a hidden gem and it's always lovely to see people who know it coming together as everyone LOVES it.

Posted by: Herbs May 22 2021, 02:22 PM

Agree with all of the above

This was such an amazing album. Good single choices (although gutted Medevac never got its chance)

It frustrated me so much that critics loved it but ultimately no-one bought it.

Posted by: blacksquare May 22 2021, 02:50 PM

QUOTE(Herbs @ May 22 2021, 02:22 PM) *
Agree with all of the above

This was such an amazing album. Good single choices (although gutted Medevac never got its chance)

It frustrated me so much that critics loved it but ultimately no-one bought it.


Another example of it being an album released at the wrong time — acclaim gets you an international audience that will support you these days.

I think she just dealt with too much mistreatment from major labels and the industry in general to carry on, but I would have loved to see what she could have done with different producers on an indie. You just know she would have been in her element experimenting outside of mainstream constraints.

Posted by: Herbs May 22 2021, 02:57 PM

QUOTE(blacksquare @ May 22 2021, 03:50 PM) *
Another example of it being an album released at the wrong time — acclaim gets you an international audience that will support you these days.

I think she just dealt with too much mistreatment from major labels and the industry in general to carry on, but I would have loved to see what she could have done with different producers on an indie. You just know she would have been in her element experimenting outside of mainstream constraints.


Totally and a third album would have allowed us to see further growth

One song I am gutted is not on Spotify is Don’t Take Me Back

I can’t think of a better b-side!

Posted by: Dill Doe May 22 2021, 03:22 PM

Brilliant album! With a better record label and promo, with perhaps more indie music like Florence being out, it would have been a historic album. But alas...

Posted by: Quarantilas May 22 2021, 03:22 PM

I wonder if, after the 8th/2nd Sugababes album if we will see some solo work from them. She did say at the time of the 10th anniversary she wanted to mark it but was too late to do something so maybe after OT(20) there will be some support for her to do a reissue of Ghosts

Posted by: dandy* May 24 2021, 12:25 PM

Ghosts is the album I'd most like to be issued on vinyl so I can have it in my collection. I feel it would sell well too if she did it, it's got the small but diehard fanbase who would happily pay for it.

Preferably with Styfling and Don't Take Me Back on it too happy.gif

Posted by: tommie May 25 2021, 06:32 AM

QUOTE(dandy* @ May 24 2021, 12:25 PM) *
Ghosts is the album I'd most like to be issued on vinyl so I can have it in my collection. I feel it would sell well too if she did it, it's got the small but diehard fanbase who would happily pay for it.


I kind of hope that the Plastic Pop label that's putting out Sophie Ellis-Bextor's album on vinyl would do it. It would complete my Ghosts collection with the Don't Give It Up + So You Say vinyls.

I normally don't collect vinyl though tbh. The One Touch vinyl is the first purchase I've done in years on vinyl tbh.

Posted by: PAJ May 25 2021, 06:43 AM

Would there be enough interest for a Ghosts rate? There seems to be a lot of love for it.

Posted by: Quarantilas May 25 2021, 11:17 AM

Yeah I reckon so!

Posted by: PAJ May 25 2021, 11:21 AM

I think it’d be great, if the b-sides are on Spotify or Apple Music or YouTube they could be added.

Or it could be kept exclusively to the 12 album tracks.

Posted by: DoggySwami May 25 2021, 11:29 AM

Reading this section of the Wikipedia article is so heartbreaking:

The album was the subject of a manufacturing error just prior to its release, with Donaghy later confirming, "When Ghosts came out, it didn't go on a new release shelf in any shop because it got delivered and there'd been a mistake on the production line. I've never heard the music that was on the CDs, but it wasn't my album. When the stores were told about it, the album was lifted off the shelves and taken back. By the time it was ready, a lot of the stores didn't take it back because they were pissed off."

Siobhan is seriously due for a commercial reckoning.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever May 25 2021, 07:53 PM

Ghosts really was messed around badly.

Posted by: PAJ May 26 2021, 10:54 PM

I know it’s not on the album but what do people think of her cover of Last Request?

I love it, it’s fantastic.

Posted by: Quarantilas May 27 2021, 06:48 AM

I haven’t heard it! 😱

Posted by: Herbs May 27 2021, 07:06 AM

QUOTE(Quarantilas @ May 27 2021, 07:48 AM) *
I haven’t heard it! 😱


Get on it right away!!!

Posted by: PAJ May 27 2021, 07:36 AM

Yes it’s incredible!

Posted by: PAJ May 27 2021, 07:42 AM

I’d link a YouTube video but I don’t know how to.

Posted by: Simon. May 27 2021, 08:36 AM

QUOTE(DoggySwami @ May 25 2021, 12:29 PM) *
Reading this section of the Wikipedia article is so heartbreaking:

The album was the subject of a manufacturing error just prior to its release, with Donaghy later confirming, "When Ghosts came out, it didn't go on a new release shelf in any shop because it got delivered and there'd been a mistake on the production line. I've never heard the music that was on the CDs, but it wasn't my album. When the stores were told about it, the album was lifted off the shelves and taken back. By the time it was ready, a lot of the stores didn't take it back because they were pissed off."

Siobhan is seriously due for a commercial reckoning.


Never knew this, how infuriating. Poor Siobhan though, you'd be crushed.

Posted by: Sacred3 May 16 2022, 04:51 AM

I always thought it was sabotage from people within the Sugababes camp.

Posted by: rowork Jun 1 2022, 11:28 AM

She discusses the manufacturing error in this video. You can tell how disappointed she was. cry.gif



In related 'news', has anyone else noticed that Siobhan's now following https://www.plasticpop.co.uk/ on Insta? She also commented on a post about their Sophie Ellis-Bextor vinyl. Could Ghosts be getting the same treatment later this year?! wub.gif

Posted by: tommie Jun 1 2022, 01:58 PM

Ooh, I hope both Revolution and Ghosts get the vinyl treatment.

Posted by: Silas Jun 1 2022, 07:57 PM

i would kill for a Ghosts vinyl. Literally

Posted by: Sacred3 Jul 2 2022, 10:01 PM

I would love its moment in the sun again

Posted by: dandy* Jul 3 2022, 10:18 AM

QUOTE(Silas @ Jun 1 2022, 08:57 PM) *
i would kill for a Ghosts vinyl. Literally

I would happily accomplice this crime.

Posted by: spiceboy Jul 3 2022, 04:04 PM

I would love a ghost vinyl especially if the Ru did the vinyl itself in the stunning designs of the era!

Posted by: Chemistry Jul 3 2022, 04:20 PM

We indeed NEED it! I do have a feeling it could be next on Plastic Pop Records, especially since she has been commented on the Nicola release and it would be right up their street. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: rowork Jul 4 2022, 11:03 AM

QUOTE(Chemistry @ Jul 3 2022, 05:20 PM) *
We indeed NEED it! I do have a feeling it could be next on Plastic Pop Records, especially since she has been commented on the Nicola release and it would be right up their street. Fingers crossed.


I think so too! Perfect timing really.

Posted by: Run_For_Cover Aug 27 2022, 07:29 AM

Any chance of some 15th anniversary celebrations this year?

Vinyl? Deluxe Version for streaming/iTunes with the b-sides and unreleased songs/demos?

A man can dream.

Posted by: Silas Aug 27 2022, 01:46 PM

God I wish.


Would absolutely adore to have this on vinyl

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme Aug 27 2022, 03:31 PM

We need a follow-up!!!!

Posted by: Silas Oct 26 2022, 08:48 PM

Sooooooooo turns out murder May not be required.


Siobhan has confirmed there is no release date yet but a Ghosts Vinyl is „in the works“


Screenshot of insta dms is doing the rounds on the fan Facebook groups. Rumour it’s on Plastic Pop Records.

Posted by: Run_For_Cover Oct 26 2022, 08:58 PM

Every time I see this get bumped I get my hopes up.

I’m here for that if it comes with a bonus disc/vinyl of unreleased songs and b-sides like they did with Nicola Roberts.

Posted by: dannjohn Oct 27 2022, 08:22 AM

the last i heard she had lost the originals

Posted by: Silas Oct 28 2022, 08:14 AM

Im guessing they have been located, but this news has excited me so much.

One less vinyl to beg for at the M&G

Posted by: dannjohn Nov 1 2022, 11:52 AM

there was a lot of unreleased tracks and different versions of songs for 'ghosts' according to a mutual friend but them and the originals were all lost (dont forget ghosts is reverted, so we have an original somewhere in the archives). It's great if it has been found... The friend has trying to push her into a solo show for years

Posted by: Chemistry Nov 6 2022, 10:31 AM

Plastic Pop Records on Popjustice

QUOTE
Edinburgh was epic! They were so good!!

I got to have a chat with Siobhan before the show (such a star). We will be planning tactics to try and make you know what a reality once the tour is over.

Get your wish lists in and start crossing everything!


It really is coming girls!! I'd die if we get a Nicola like set with unreleased songs added as well.

Posted by: tommie Nov 6 2022, 01:02 PM

I just want When Silence Breaks which was promised to be released as a free download on her website.

Posted by: Silas Nov 6 2022, 01:55 PM

Honestly just give me it on vinyl and I will die a happy man. I don’t need any extras as epic as that would be, just the basic would be more than enough and anything else at all would be a perfect bonus

Posted by: dandy* Nov 6 2022, 03:46 PM

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.

PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE!!!

Posted by: dandy* Nov 6 2022, 05:02 PM

OMG I want it to be just like this:




Posted by: Silas Nov 6 2022, 05:05 PM

That would be incredible

Posted by: dandy* Nov 6 2022, 05:37 PM

Wouldn't it just? I was trying to imagine what colour I'd like it to be as I don't fancy brown leather as an option... then stumbled across that on twitter

Posted by: Run_For_Cover Nov 6 2022, 09:13 PM

Even though it’s fake it looks amazing!

Hopefully something official is announced in the next few months.

Posted by: Run_For_Cover Nov 6 2022, 09:14 PM

QUOTE(tommie @ Nov 6 2022, 01:02 PM) *
I just want When Silence Breaks which was promised to be released as a free download on her website.


I’m guessing this hasn’t leaked yet? I’d never even knew it existed until now.

Posted by: Sacred3 Nov 6 2022, 10:06 PM

I hope it's a nice green vinyl.

Posted by: Scary Spiceboy Nov 20 2022, 04:59 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Nov 6 2022, 05:02 PM) *
OMG I want it to be just like this:



Omg I thought that was official then, my heart nearly stopped!

Posted by: Yobnedor Nov 20 2022, 05:55 PM

That’s an amazing mock-up I won’t lie!

Posted by: Silas Nov 20 2022, 06:17 PM

The vinyl itself is just f***ing stunning

Posted by: Sacred3 Nov 21 2022, 05:17 AM

I am hungry for more unreleased gems of that era................ Please Shiv!

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