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 2nd April 2017, 06:26 PM
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 Shakin Stevens
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QUOTE(Emperor Silas @ Mar 30 2017, 12:37 AM)  The utter hypocrisy is mind blowing. Scotland can't vote until Brexit has been well implemented coz it's unfair to vote on something we don't really know about but we can get pulled out of the EU by a lying red f***ing bus?!?! 9 months later we still have no actual plan. There's no idea of the consequences of a disorderly exit, nor planning for what will happen without transitional arrangements. It's a farce. A blatant power grab by Cameron has destroyed our future economic prosperity, bitterly divided the country and will lead to the break up of the UK and the reunification of Ireland. I hope history remembers him as the desperate opportunistic weasel he is. Well the reunification of Ireland would be a great event and undo a great injustice of the past! |
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3rd April 2017, 05:17 PM
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 Howdy, disco citizens
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Apr 2 2017, 09:54 AM) According to the Sunday Express (meaning it might be complete rubbish) the blue passport is to return at a cost of half a billion quid. Even 50p to do something so utterly pointless would be a waste of money. Ironically (if what I've read is true), the United Kingdom could've changed the colour of the passport back to blue even if they were within the EU. The EU recommends that its countries use the red passport, but it is not required. Croatia's is black, for example. |
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4th April 2017, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(Brétt-Butler @ Apr 3 2017, 06:17 PM) Ironically (if what I've read is true), the United Kingdom could've changed the colour of the passport back to blue even if they were within the EU. The EU recommends that its countries use the red passport, but it is not required. Croatia's is black, for example. Lmao! |
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4th April 2017, 12:26 PM
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Queen of Soon
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Is Croatia's black because it only joined in 2013 and their new passport may be Burgundy whenever they issue it?
Interesting if it is the case though. Another example of EU regulations that Brexiteers are crying about that is actually a result of the UK improperly applying the law. See the rules on Free Movement that haven't been fully applied by both parties since it came into force. |
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4th April 2017, 09:03 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Back with policies and official government statements:
May has announced (while selling weapons in the Middle East, where Trump is busy bombing and assisting a regime gassing children) that there will be NO trade deal before the 2 years of Brexit is up, just the divorce itself and a vague outline of what may be talked about for some undisclosed length of time after that. May has also said the number of immigrants into the UK may go UP after Brexit. The 350m pounds a week for the NHS pushed by those doing all the trade and divorce talks is being spent on the divorce (and then some many billions more), which is being hacked at, along with Councils and social services. The pound hasnt shot up and wildly returned to it's pre-referendum status, and the only reason it hasnt sunk lower is the Bank Of England increased debt bailing out (ie increasing national debt that has yet to be paid back from the banking crisis) Spain can turn down any deal if the British get pissy about Gibraltar. The EU can get pissy about the British current soft border in Ireland, and do in a trade deal. Scotland may vote to break up the UK. So, to all the rosetinted Leavers as we sit here 2 weeks after triggering A50, us Remoaners would like to know exactly what parts of Project Fear have turned out to be lies, and what parts of all the promises that were made by the lying gits now running the country about sunshine, lollipops and roses lying ahead have actually turned out to be true. "Let's get positive" say the twots, oblivious to reality, "and focus on the bright future ahead". So give us some positive definitive good news that we can point to as a success? Just one example will do, not much to ask..... |
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10th April 2017, 05:01 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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I mean you've probably already seen this on your timelines/feeds but it is so worth another watch IMO:
The Jeremy Corbyn bit had me in stitches!! |
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17th April 2017, 10:38 AM
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 BuzzJack Legend
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You couldn't make it up part 351,073
The EU has, perfectly reasonably, started thinking about where to move UK-based institutions so that they remain based in the EU. Some Leave supporters are outraged, describing it as "punishment". http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brex...4b0da2ff8619ddb? |
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17th April 2017, 11:05 AM
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Queen of Soon
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Brexiteers are the most delusional people. Like of course the EU bodies aren't going stay in a country that will soon be out of its borders. What kind of utter moron thinks they would??? Oh yeah, an idiot who voted for Brexit.
It's a shame we no longer have an empire, a penal colony would come in handy right now. |
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17th April 2017, 02:47 PM
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Yes, we can expect years of these 'EU plotting" delusional headlines pushed by The Right-wing rags and their idiot supporters looking for propaganda victories as they try and blame everyone except themselves. It's not as if the fools weren't warned about it all before the vote: they chose to dismiss it all as "Project Fear" and the more they protest about it all coming true the more dumb and sulkingly vitriolic they look. SHOCK HORROR: The EU are doing exactly what they said they do before the referendum, and were accused of scare-tactics because they need our business (they don't).
They complain about anyone pointing out facts before the referendum that they didn't agree with, they complain about anyone pointing out what is happening now, complain about anyone pointing out what is going to happen, have complained for 20 years about the EU, complain about anyone not holding their rose-tinted foolhardy viewpoint (insisting we should all snowflake remoaner shut up and stop reminding them how thick - or what lying gits - they are). Moan moan moan. I have yet to have one offer of a goodnews post-Brexit fact taken up. Not even a tiny little one (and I can think of a couple of small teeny tiny upsides, all on my own). |
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16th May 2017, 10:11 AM
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 Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Apr 2 2017, 07:26 PM) Well the reunification of Ireland would be a great event and undo a great injustice of the past! But in undoing one, it would create another... QUOTE(Emperor Silas @ Apr 17 2017, 12:05 PM) Brexiteers are the most delusional people. Like of course the EU bodies aren't going stay in a country that will soon be out of its borders. What kind of utter moron thinks they would??? Oh yeah, an idiot who voted for Brexit. It's a shame we no longer have an empire, a penal colony would come in handy right now. Given that Brexiters are in the majority that might not be the best idea... 
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16th May 2017, 11:09 AM
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Queen of Soon
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Well you lot keep saying we're "full" so kicking 17 million of you out will relieve a lot of pressure on our NHS and Education system....
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16th May 2017, 11:10 AM
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Queen of Soon
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How would the reunification of Ireland create an injustice??
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16th May 2017, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ May 16 2017, 11:11 AM) But in undoing one, it would create another... Given that Brexiters are in the majority that might not be the best idea... Sounds like a Nazi threat there, how nice and cosy. I think you'll find they were in the majority too and managed to murder, ooh, tens of millions. being in the majority, and in power, does not mean you are necessarily right. Gloating instead of listening to people with genuine concerns also does nothing to persuade people of any reasoned arguments you might have - not that I have seen any of course
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16th May 2017, 02:33 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Silas @ May 16 2017, 12:10 PM) How would the reunification of Ireland create an injustice?? Because half the population of NI consider themselves British, and would not be happy at possibly losing that identity! |
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16th May 2017, 02:35 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ May 16 2017, 12:44 PM) Sounds like a Nazi threat there, how nice and cosy. I think you'll find they were in the majority too and managed to murder, ooh, tens of millions. Talk to 'Emperor Silas' about that - *he* was the one who suggested penal colonies... |
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16th May 2017, 03:59 PM
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Queen of Soon
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Very flippantly
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17th May 2017, 05:53 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Silas @ May 16 2017, 04:59 PM) Very flippantly My comment was flippant too, hence my use of
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21st May 2017, 12:27 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ May 16 2017, 03:33 PM) Because half the population of NI consider themselves British, and would not be happy at possibly losing that identity! I'm pretty sure they could still keep their identity in a reunified Ireland. The only injustice was the lose of the unionist argument through increased democracy in the last 19th century in Ireland and when they lost the argument they changed the rules by drawing an imaginary artificial border on the island to create a polarised sectarian state. (With the threat of violence by the UVF and threat of treason by members of the Tory Party!) This post has been edited by Steve201: 21st May 2017, 12:28 AM |
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21st May 2017, 09:23 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ May 21 2017, 01:27 AM) I'm pretty sure they could still keep their identity in a reunified Ireland. Do you mean joint citizenship? |
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21st May 2017, 11:02 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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It's the same in NI now as people can get a Irish or British passport. Also politically in an all-Ireland parliament they would have a huge say due to the nature of the voting system and for example would most likely be in coalition with Fine Gael right now!!
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