Liam is in LA with Juicy J apparently working on solo music.
Let's see if something from these recording sessions gets released.
Looking forward to his solo stuff. I think he'll be the solo star of the group. The Cheryl/Justin/Nick Jonas of the group.
YES! Can't wait to hear some of this, I've always thought vocally Liam was the strongest. Though I don't know if there is enough hype around him as an individual for his performance to match that of Zayn and Harry. But it'll be fantastic none the less
SNIPPET:
http://www.capitalfm.com/artists/one-direction/liam-payne/news/new-solo-album-music-songs/#Y6moXeCP8rjQv7Jp.97
Sounds brilliant!
OMG! That's not the direction i expected him to take! But it sounds amazing!! Gives me Drake vibes
Liam @Real_Liam_Payne 17m17 minutes ago
Happy to have signed to @CapitolUK. They have an amazing history of artists, I hope I can follow in their footsteps
Liam @Real_Liam_Payne 16m16 minutes ago
One direction will always be my home and family but I'm very excited to see what this chapter brings.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn5qQB-UsAEz05w.jpg
Oooh! Looking forward to hearing his stuff. Wonder if he'll be ready to launch in Q4?
After Zayn the least exciting member to release a solo album( Louis won't release anything solo he can't sing).
He's signed with Republic Records. Home of Ariana and The Weeknd! Exciting times
First single coming in June http://abload.de/img/catturavqqz0.png! I'll make a thread when we have more info.
Ryan Tedder has worked with him on some songs and described his genre as "straight pop". There have also been reports that his music is coming in May.
Here's the article with Ryan if anyone's interested: http://www.newsweek.com/ryan-tedder-adele-beyonce-abbey-road-589430
What's "straight pop"?
I believe he just meant pop music. None of the boys have really strayed that far from pop but Nialls more acoustic, Harry's is more rock sounding, Louis did an EDM collab and then Zayn was more R&B. I know there was a lot of rumors that Liam was going to lean more towards R&B/Hip Hop, so Ryan was just saying that he's sticking to pop.
Apparently Liam's got a collab with Zedd coming up intrigued by this!
shooting for his album cover
Covering most of his tattoos in that jacket then. Wonder if they'll try and make him the wholesome one of the group.
A song called Bedroom Floor has been registered as being performed by Liam, and written by Steve Mac and Charlie Puth!
The album is slated to be released in early December, while "Bedroom Floor", which is the second single, will be out on October 20 and the music video, a week later.
The info comes from http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/post/6275558/thread. Olly (the poster) is the source and he's credible. I mean, Liam announced the release of the single on Twitter today and he posted that info four days ago.
A song has been registered with Hailee Steinfeld!
Slated to be released in January 12 according to the latest Universal press newsletter. No information about the title yet.
He confirmed in the Live Lounge that this will be released in September. I'm guessing the label are assuming "Familiar" will be big over the summer and that'll be the lead. If not, expect another delay lol.
Exciting, I have loved his singles so far!!
Supposedly out 14th Sept!
I had thought the album would be out much sooner. It will be like a best of before he even releases.
He's on Graham Norton next week
Reportedly to be released on December 6.
At least two years after the boat has been missed.
He really isn’t in the best place to be releasing in Q4 (or at all really lol), this will probably flop spectacularly oops
It is a terrible choice of release date as it will get lost among so many other albums.
I would have believed 1st quarter of 2020 to release would be the best option with a single out in November and a strong follow up in time before album launch.
too many dates in this topic, lmao
Album getting released 6th of December
This will surely get pushed back again? Especially coz Stack It Up has done literally nothing...
he's about to confirm it in minutes, LP1 is real.
Pre-order LP1, his debut album, out December 6th: https://t.co/bE1ds9KAKN?amp=1
Tracklist:
1. Stack It Up (feat. A Boogie Wit da Hoodie)
2. Remember
3. Heart Meet Break
4. Hips Don't Lie
5. Tell Your Friends
6. Say It All
7. Rude Hours
8. Live Forever (with Cheat Codes)
9. Weekend
10. Both Ways
11. Strip That Down (feat. Quavo)
12. For You (Fifty Shades Freed) (with Rita Ora)
13. Familiar (with J Balvin)
14. Polaroid (with Jonas Blue & Lennon Stella)
15. Get Low (with Zedd)
16. Bedroom Floor
17. All I Want (for Christmas)
I don't have much interest in an album from him, but I'll probably check out the Christmas song when it's released in a couple of weeks and the Cheat Codes collab.
LP1 is actually a very clever name though
A good move that it includes all the older singles & collabs, that’ll certainly benefit his streaming units. I’m feeling too tentative to preorder a physical because I’m not overly keen on Stack It Up, and that makes me worry about the quality of the other new tracks, oop. I’ll wait and stream it, then decide if I’ll buy a physical. They’re certainly pushing the boat out with physicals!
Signed CD
Unsigned CD
Black vinyl
Pink vinyl
Blue vinyl
Transparent vinyl (HMV)
Picture disc vinyl
Cassette
The vinyl is just 1xLP; Side A: 24 minutes, 49 seconds / Side B: 29 minutes, 46 seconds - this is very crammed! 2xLP would have made more sense from a quality point of view.
He really should’ve released this in Q1 2020 as he could’ve pushed for a #1 debut.
Releasing in December is risky I’m sure he’ll get a top 10 possible top 5 debut though.
Probably good it contains all his past tracks too. I’m interested in checking this out.
Yeah February 14th would've been a good release date for this - away from the Christmas sellers at the start of January and in the middle of two big releases on the weeks before and after (Green Day and The 1975)
Help 'Stack It Up' in Record Of The Year - http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=226744
A Target Special edition will have 2 exclusive songs on it (Hurting Me and Before it Ends) and the Japanese iTunes version will have 3 exclusive songs (Nobody Else, Trouble and Down) bringing the total to 22 tracks.
Stealing FKA twigs' album title, who does he think he is x
I guess he doesn't know who FKA Twigs is?
Well her initials aren't LP
I love the pun
Yeah, I lowkey, love the name and think it's clever
I was hoping he'd be the one to break out from 1D, but he seems to have struggled the most
Pleased to see 'For You' and the underrated 'Bedroom Floor' make it on there, but like Jay, it's more because it's a smart move to get the extra streaming numbers.
Yeah I really can't see this making the top 10 at all.
Stack It Up is easily my favourite single by him so far, so I'll go into this with an open mind, but let's just hope there's not a lot like Strip That Down, Get Low, etc.
Debut of 18 tbh
18-72
Strip men down
Easily his best
FFS.
The album will struggle to make it to the Top 20.
at least it will be gold in US
strip that down 3xp = 300k
get low gold = 50k
other tracks might give it the push to 500-600k
If anyone is interested in pre-ordering the blue version of his vinyl, it's currently only £12.02 on Amazon UK! I've bought it now.
https://amazon.co.uk/Limited-Blue-Vinyl-Liam-Payne/dp/B07Z7531JG/
I'm wondering if this price is accidental, considering that it's £24.99 on his official store & HMV? Amazon usually honours the lowest price you caught an item at during the pre-order window, so I'll keep my fingers crossed!
Tempted to go and pre-order that given how cheap it is, but then since I also have Mind of Mine on vinyl, I'd then feel obliged to have a complete 1D solo collection and get Harry, Niall and Louis too.
Do it tbh *___*
Maybe a Rita Ora Phoenix like first week but with peak one or two positions higher is what I imagined.
He missed a trick not having his hot bod on it tbh, that on the vinyl would be tempting for anyone
I guess he's sticking with the theme of always having boring, basic artwork though
All I Want (For Christmas) out Friday.
This wont sell much and be lucky to get top 20. I reckon Liam really should of stuck with Syco for his solo stuff. I know they have never done much for Louis but he was never gonna be a success anyway because in my opinion he hasn’t really got the voice to go solo so why spend time trying. Whereas with Liam there was a lot of hype before Strip That Down and I think Simon Cowell would of went all out on promoting Liam. He would always be guaranteed X Factor live shows and Final performances as well as a Britains Got Talent performance. I think he would be in a better position than he is now anyway.
It's already out in New Zealand!! Good luck to him...
Album: LP1
iTunes:
#5 Australia
#8 New Zealand
At the highest, this album will be low top 20.
It would be a total surprise if it goes any higher.
This is the first pop album I have enjoyed in quite a while.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/dec/06/liam-payne-lp1-review-capitol
A 1 star review from The Guardian!
"LP1 is a terrible pop album, but very effective contraception."
Admittedly that review has come from Laura Snapes, who seems to be anti-anybody that doesn't stand on a soapbox and preach, but painful review all the same. I think this is officially the point where - Niall excluded - their solo careers have become fair game for knocking copy.
so funny to see the bad reviews :') that one in particular was absolutely scolding *.*
Album: LP1
iTunes:
#1 India
#1 Macau
#2 Mexico
#2 Philippines
#3 Brazil
#3 Canada
#3 Greece
#3 Sweden
#3 Turkey
#5 United States
#5 Azerbaijan
#5 Indonesia
#5 Oman
#7 Denmark
#7 Finland
#7 Italy
#7 Thailand
#9 United Kingdom
#9 Cambodia
#10 Australia
#11 France
#12 Spain
#13 Germany
#13 Hong Kong
#13 Russia
#14 India
#15 Belgium
#17 Austria
#18 New Zealand
#23 Belarus
#24 Netherlands
#24 South Africa
#26 Lithuania
#35 Switzerland
#42 Saudi Arabia
#46 Kazakhstan
#53 Malta
#53 Qatar
#58 Egypt
#74 Bulgaria
#95 Dominican Republic
#101 Ecuador
#101 Kenya
#111 Canada
#132 Slovakia
#134 United Kingdom
#141 United States
#169 Peru
Apple Music:
#8 Brazil
#9 Chile
#12 Laos
#13 Bulgaria
#13 Saudi Arabia
#16 Mexico
#17 Argentina
#18 Egypt
#21 Portugal
#22 Peru
#23 Slovenia
#25 Cambodia
#25 Sri Lanka
#26 Paraguay
#30 Philippines
#31 Costa Rica
#31 India
#32 Singapore
#33 Malaysia
#33 Panama
#33 Spain
#33 Turkey
#36 Israel
#39 Australia
#40 Italy
#41 United Kingdom
#41 Indonesia
#44 Poland
#45 Malta
#47 Lebanon
#47 New Zealand
#48 Netherlands
#54 Greece
#55 Kazakhstan
#59 Austria
#59 Germany
#59 Hungary
#60 Azerbaijan
#66 Ecuador
#66 Finland
#67 Hong Kong
#70 Ireland
#70 Russia
#71 Slovakia
#71 United Arab Emirates
#74 Armenia
#74 Saudi Arabia
#78 Lithuania
#81 Uzbekistan
#82 Jordan
#84 Belgium
#88 Czech Republic
#89 Colombia
#92 Denmark
#97 Romania
#98 Sweden
#99 Belarus
#102 Norway
#107 France
#107 Mauritius
#108 Cyprus
#108 Switzerland
#118 Vietnam
#119 Taiwan
#119 Ukraine
#129 Canada
#136 Thailand
#142 Latvia
#157 El Salvador
#162 Belize
#168 Guatemala
#194 South Africa
#223 United States
Live Forever
iTunes:
#2 Sri Lanka
#16 Philippines
#44 Indonesia
#54 Netherlands
#94 Malaysia
#103 Thailand
#149 Hong Kong
#185 Spain
#220 Germany
#325 Mexico
#460 United States
#1083 United Kingdom
Stack It Up
iTunes:
#69 Germany
#80 Austria
#92 Sweden
#175 United Kingdom
#186 Spain
#313 Mexico
#330 Switzerland
#1178 United States
All I Want
iTunes:
#131 United Kingdom
#148 Hong Kong
#484 Australia
Remember
iTunes:
#157 Indonesia
#542 United Kingdom
#1181 United States
For You
iTunes:
#173 Czech Republic
#175 Slovakia
#180 Bulgaria
#293 United Kingdom
#397 Australia
#426 Italy
#470 Germany
" Stack It Up is halfway between a 2003 50 Cent single and the Tory manifesto: “If you wanna stack it up,” he advises, “you gotta work for it.”"
SCREAMING
#liampayneisoverparty is top trending on Twitter as we speak. Suffice to say it's going to take him and his team a mammoth effort for him to overcome the backlash on this.
For those unaware, it's about the song Both Ways fetishising bisexual women.
Rude Hours - "i'll probably do your ass in the car"
jesus
I’ve not heard the album yet but I don’t think anything we’ve heard so far has been that dreadful
I still feel he has a fanbase though and may surprise and go top ten. It is his debut album after all and sales this year have been that low anyways it’s not like they’re picking up that much in Q4.
He also done a signing today in Newcastle and there was a lot of people there. The whole shopping centre was pretty busy too with people trying to sneak pics etc too.
Signings will be really beneficial as well I think. Idk why I’ve just always felt debut week wise this would do better than suggested on here
I mean a LOT of the lyrics are very questionable, and it's right that people are calling them out. But the irony of Harry stans starting the hashtag on Twitter when Harry legit advocates for treating people with kindness... lmao.
oh my that review haven't laughed so much in ages
it's actually from the same reviewer that did an iconic review of Divide for Pitchfork
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22960-divide/#
Metascore of 44 so far (based on 5 reviews), oops!
I'm quite shocked that at no point between the creation & the release of Both Ways, no one involved thought "hmmm, this isn't a good message...". It'll be interesting if he acknowledges the criticism.
at least we were spared a Cheryl duet
The singles tacked on the end of this are definitely the saving grace on this. It’s not terrible, but it’s just very meh? A lot of the tracks are dreary especially Hips Don’t Lie what the hell is that �� and the lyrical content is a choice. Live Forever is probably my favourite amongst the new ones
The lyrics throughout the album are really bad, nowhere more evident than in Both Ways
That aside it's a decent enough listen, though unremarkable really. Live Forever is by far my highlight from the new songs!
Album: LP1
iTunes:
#11 Canada
#14 United States
#18 United Kingdom
#20 Australia
#141 Australia
Apple Music:
#35 United Kingdom
#40 Canada
#41 Ireland
#48 New Zealand
#62 Australia
#94 British Virgin Islands
#96 United States
doing good on Apple Music, so far...
Fine Line is the #3 album on Apple Music without being released. Stormzy's new album is also top 10. They have 3 and 4 tracks out each, respectively. Liam's Apple Music position isn't great when he has a whopping 17 tracks...
Excited to see how badly this flops, I only listened to 'Live Forever' and that's being dubbed the best? Yikes, the cheap production jumped out on that one!
God I never thought I'd end up in this part of the forum
I heard both ways after I saw the controversy surrounding it become quite prominent on my twitter feed, I can't believe a song like this exists in 2019 tbh, it's just so gross and insensitive :') I would have thought someone on his team would have flagged the lyrics, I mean look at the amount of backlash Rita Ora got for "Girls' despite being a bi woman herself because of how it presented girls only being interested in other girls for male attention etc ofc nowhere near to the degree Liam's track has as this is ten times worse, especially coming from a guy.
The issue with fetishizing bi women like this is that it reduces a completely valid sexuality down to ignorant stereotypes and misogynistic ideals... It's why people don't think bisexuality is a real orientation.
I’ve loved almost all of his singles but he is very cringe - he can’t pull off the ‘hip’ persona he is trying to with his music. It’s not believable at all. Such a shame because I love his voice.
His XF audition shows he has a great voice, but his label are trying to turn him into this Bieber/Timberlake type figure that hasn't been "cool" for like 10 years now. The album is embarrassing when compared to the likes of Harry and Niall's stuff
Following 1D split , I actually thought after Harry he would have an incredible chance of solo success and Strip That Down smashed worldwide but since it’s just been a massive mess.
He won’t flop hard like Zayn and twenty singles on the album will help the streaming but I could see this debuting anywhere between 14-22
At least Zayn’s out here flopping while releasing inoffensive, authentic music
I’m not even surprised, the lyrics to almost every single he’s released is about his ego and sex etc, Jason derulo did it better
I've yet to see a review for this any better than 2★ Getting absolutely slated online.
I think a top 30 debut.
He would probably do well to sign up for either Strictly or the I'm a Celeb jungle next year. Would be a massive coup for either show if he did but at this point it's the only thing that's realistically gonna raise his profile as his music quite patently isn't.
He has had some success with his singles so his solo career is not a complete flop and we cant judge the album success just yet as its just released.
It is not looking good for the album and the critical backlash on the album is not helping him.
Number 8 in the midweek information today, that is a good start.
Top 20 should be safe based on that information.
Many expected Liam and Camila Cabello to struggle with their albums, Camila is currently Number 16.
Camila certainly is struggling with her album!
I thought Camila would be higher than Liam this week but, I didnt expect either to perform as good as they could.
Bring back the Big Payno persona and go back to producing dance bangers please x
Straight guy fetishising bi women shocker
Album: LP1
iTunes:
#41 United Kingdom
#66 Australia
#72 Canada
#86 United States
Apple Music:
#45 United Kingdom
#69 New Zealand
#87 Ireland
#96 Australia
#139 Canada
#314 United States
If an update is released today, it may help identify the official position for the album on Friday.
The singles are definitely the best tracks on there, alongside Live Forever which is pretty good. The other new songs aren't really that memorable though.
From a BBC News article on him this morning, re. the Both Ways backlash:
The albums come too late tbh. He should’ve released it in spring either this year or even last year. Waiting until now feels too late and like momentum was lost.
Liam is a good singer but the album isn’t that great. It’s not terrible either though just doesn’t really feel like it’s personal to him. Some tracks feel like left overs from other artists albums
Down to #14 in yesterday's midweek, which has now prompted Simon Boyle at The Sun to take all five of them down for knocking copy: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10516711/one-direction-liam-payne-solo-disaster/
This definitely has shades of late 2001 when similar pieces were being written about the Spice Girls' solo efforts all tanking to a lesser or greater degree.
I don't get why Harry is being put in the same category when his album is set to perform really well. I've seen a few comments like this now.
I wouldn't Niall has flopped either - his single managed to grow with each passing week which suggests it was growing in its audience reach.
I was gonna say Harry and Niall are the only ones doing anything approaching respectable chart wise at the moment.
They also have a sure idea of who they are as an artist which sets them apart from the other three, regardless of chart success.
The article would have been credible in years gone by when the chart format was different, solo Spice Girls getting a number 22 hit would have been seen as a disaster.
A Number 22 single now is perceived very differently for those who understand the charts.
Nialls Nice To Meet you have done very well and is not a flop, both himself and Harry have done very well and are both showing strong signs of successful second albums in addition to successful debuts.
That's an absolutely ridiculous article though I wouldn't expect anything more from The Sun. Harry "only" possibly being #2 in the UK is such a non-issue when it's clearly going to sell so well, and most notably, be an easy #1 in the US. Niall's doing just fine too, and I don't think Louis' album will end up being a disaster either actually. Liam's album performance isn't great and obviously Icarus Falls was a disaster for Zayn but there's pretty clear reasoning for both beyond "a decline in 1D's careers."
Dire journalism
Its The Sun, what you all expect?
Makes its Number 17 debut this week.
Debuts at..
#111 in the US!!!! (9.5k)
IM f***ING SCREAMING!!!! :')
Number 59 in the UK from looking at the midweek information released today.
#111 is an atrocious debut in the US
I thought Liam may be enough of a name to secure an American Top 100 place, but clearly my assumption was incorrect.
It's an embarrassment without warrant... he's a name enough to have got a top 20 album I'd say... top 50 at the lowest... though surely his label saw the awful reception to his EP has a pre warning... Liam's music does not fit Liam... simple as... he should be making wishy washy ballads.
That's so embarrassing in the US!
He really should have had his album ready to go in 2017 when there was still some goodwill.
!!
Marina outsold
Charlie's Angels outsold
Tinashe outsold*
* with Joyride x
The album should have got a release last year or have been hold back until early 2020.
The material has got poor reviews which has been a huge problem and i do agree the style of music does not fit with Liam.
Most of work is feature based and this lacks identity for Liam.
I think he will really struggle hugely going forward with his solo career unless he can comeback with both a strong and appealing sound.
Australia ARIA
50 (NE) 01
Sales: 560
UK OCC
66 (17) 02 LP1
Sales: 12,932
Ireland IRMA
69 (NE) 01 LP1
Japan ORICON
167 (124) 02 LP1
Sales: 880
France SNEP
153 (NE) 01 LP1
Canada Albums
70 (NE) 01 LP1
Spain PROMUSICAE
41 (NE) 01 LP1
Swiss Album Charts
100 (NEW) 1 LP1
Belgium (Vl)
124 (NE) 01 LP1
Belgium (Wa)
128 (NE) 01 LP1
Ouch flopping big time!
Oh wow at how badly this performed
Down to £4.99 in HMV's Big Sale, so I think if I end up going shopping tomorrow I'll make sure to get that because it's a stretch even paying that for it
Will be interesting to see if this helps it in a particularly significant way!
Up to #90 on UK iTunes
https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/music/inside-liam-paynes-dubai-diary-his-nye-plan-and-a-one-direction-reunion-1.68729617
How is he claiming 2.5 million album sales globally, I can't see a single country where it has performed well.
I bought the album on CD (signed) and I do like it, some parts not so much.. It's almost a GH with so many singles on it, all of which I like (STD, BF, F, GL, AIWFCIU, SIU, P, LF & FY - 9 singles!) If that doesn't sell your album what will?
I like Remember + Rude Hours + Say It All. The rest is hit and miss but it'll do.
Those sales are heavily inflated.
I would doubt the album has managed 100,000 worldwide sales right now.
The album does, climb to Number 55 in the UK this week.
I finally got around to listening to the album, and honestly... I don't think it's as terrible as it's made out to be (Both Ways aside, that really is trash), but that said, it's not great. It's a rather unremarkable set of songs.
Out of the first 10 tracks (i.e. the newer tracks; tracks 11-17 are all the older singles attached to the end), I consider Remember & Say It All as being highlights. Either of these probably should have got the single treatment over Stack It Up.
Heart Meets Break, Hips Don't Lie & Rude Hours are highly generic with some choice lyrics, however they're listenable enough. The production and his voice work nicely together, the main problem is that what he's singing about is very inconsequential. Tell Your Friends, Weekend and Both Ways are forgettable/boring/bad.
It's definitely notable how the quality rises with the old songs (For You is quite clearly the overall highlight on this album), but with them all thrown on the end of the album it highlights what a mish mash of styles he's tried out. LP1 might have worked slightly better if they'd attempted to mix in the old singles throughout the album? Hmm!
I haven't yet heard the 5 bonus tracks (Hurting Me / Before It Ends / Down / Trouble / Nobody Else), so I'll be interested to hear if any of these deserved to be standard album tracks.
18k sold in the UK
HMV must have a warehouse full of Liam’s album to shift - just realised they have put every format on offer
CD - £2.99 with any purchase
Standard Vinyl - £9.99
Blue Vinyl - £13.99
HMV Exclusive Clear Vinyl - £13.99
Could get him a few more sales - it’s really not a terrible album just very generic.
Ouch at even the most exclusive vinyl only being £13.99 !
I'm sure the price reduction will help shift a few copies.
LP1 - Sales
UK 25,400
Australia 2,871
France 1,000
HMV are definitely keen to clear out poor Liam’s album The standard vinyl is now £7.99 and the HMV exclusive is £12.99 - couldn’t resist picking one up
Australian Sales
LP1 114 (3,203 total)
UK Sales
LP1 82,397
Those sales are double of what I thought they were.
Powered by Invision Power Board
© Invision Power Services