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Posted by: danVember 8th November 2017, 11:53 AM

for reference, previous album '1989' debuted with 90k sold. I can't see this doing quite as well though it should easily make #1, I would predict about 60-70k.

Posted by: Chapman 8th November 2017, 12:17 PM

I'm going to go with 74k debuting at number 1!

Posted by: SKOB 8th November 2017, 12:17 PM

Same!

Posted by: André 8th November 2017, 02:16 PM

I think it'll outsell Sam Smith's first week. 90k+ with a chance of crossing the 100k mark. Her fans are super loyal. It won't outsell 1989 but it'll probably have a better first week.

Posted by: timjimlee 8th November 2017, 02:28 PM

Unlikely to be available on Spotify and Apple Music at time of release will dent Sales a little.
On a positive note for Sales there are a couple of Special Edition CD Releases, suspect the die-hard fans will want both.
Still can't see Sales exceeding 100k.

Posted by: MrIndependent 8th November 2017, 03:06 PM

Red opened up with 61k whilst 1989 did 90k; I think reputation. will be midway of those tallies, so roughly 75k. I went with the 75-100k range as I can see the higher band being the more rational, realistic one as opposed to the lower 50-75k one. There's every chance that she could have ginormous first week sales from hype, but I can't see it outselling 1989's first week total on account of how Look What You Made Me Do and the promotional singles have performed. I think reputation. will have generally poor longevity in comparison to 1989 as well.

Posted by: Bjork 8th November 2017, 03:11 PM

I think also 75K, which is a pity, cos if she had come back with proper good music she could have really taken it to the next level sales-wise
very disappointed with her 4 tracks so far, never thought sh'd comeback with something so weak, a serious mis-step

Posted by: Buttered Muffin 8th November 2017, 03:25 PM

Less than 50, maaybe as high as mid 60s/ 66.

1989 was absolutely crap. Can't see many returning after that trite assault on the senses.

Also the last two songs were pretty bad, esp. The first song.

Posted by: Buttered Muffin 8th November 2017, 03:27 PM

If it's against Sam Smith, it will get #2

Posted by: Jez 8th November 2017, 04:14 PM

Around 80k-90k

Posted by: cqmerqn 8th November 2017, 10:47 PM

59,947

#2

Posted by: Lomadz 9th November 2017, 08:06 AM

She has to beat Sam Smith...surely.

Then again that TV special could keep him there.

Posted by: SKOB 9th November 2017, 08:09 AM

Imagine the outrage if she's #2 behind Sam Smith

I'm 90% sure it doesn't happen though

Posted by: slowdown73 9th November 2017, 07:06 PM

Around 80k. Don’t think the album will do overall as well as 1989 but should achieve decent numbers before Christmas.

Posted by: UltraReputation 9th November 2017, 07:10 PM

Going with 80k!

Wouldn't be shocked to see either 65k or >100k though! I also think this may have a way better 2nd week than expected if the spotify add/X-Factor performance are both true!

Posted by: BrookeOlivia 9th November 2017, 08:23 PM

I went for 75k - 100k

Think it will do around 80k - 85k

Posted by: SevenSeize 9th November 2017, 08:50 PM

If her last one opened with 90k then this should manage around that more or less? even despite the lead single not having near the longevity of Shake It Off (+ the lack of spotify apparently)

(and no Sam Smith isn't going to hold her off #1 lol)

Posted by: 777666jason 9th November 2017, 09:08 PM

Yeah sam clearly threatened by her scheduling his show for partically his second week

Posted by: Davidson 9th November 2017, 11:36 PM

I think she will end up doing somewhere around 65-70k.

Posted by: gavindeejay 9th November 2017, 11:46 PM

I put less than 50k. This era has been a major disappointment

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th November 2017, 02:20 AM

I’ll be SCREAMING if she ends up at #2 behind Sam Smith after all the hate he got about his opening week sales The hype around this seems to have died down and her singles/instant grats have not had as much staying power as I expected, will be interesting to see the first set of mids!

Posted by: jase. 10th November 2017, 02:25 AM

70-75k

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th November 2017, 09:34 PM

Not expecting much for this. Haven’t heard anyone speak about it.

Many HMVs are banned from selling it so predicting 45-50k

Posted by: JosephStyles 10th November 2017, 09:36 PM

I've not heard about HMVs being banned from selling it, but there's been a stock issue (my copy couldn't be shipped on time and some shops didn't have stock today).

Besides, all I've seen on my FB today is Taylor Swift!! 45-50k is waaay too low imo. Can definitely see 80k+.

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th November 2017, 09:39 PM

Yeah, heard many HMVs are banned as some played it in their stores last week.

Posted by: BrookeOlivia 10th November 2017, 09:40 PM

Do people still even use HMV our local one got shut down due to poor sales If I want a CD then I get it from the supermarket when am getting other bits, I wouldn't ever find myself going HMV just for a CD or DVD when my local supermarkets all stock them Maybe that is just me though but I doubt some HMV not having it in stock is hardly going to make a huge difference to her sales.

Posted by: JosephStyles 10th November 2017, 09:51 PM

There was an embargo on playing them before the release date but it'd be stupid if they weren't allowed to sell them after the proper release date surely?


I think HMV not stocking it would be a pretty big problem for her, but thankfully it seems to be a short-term problem (my copy from HMV online got shipped earlier, just a day or so later than normal).

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th November 2017, 10:02 PM

I love going into HMV, surely I can’t be the only one? Love looking at all the CDs and buying 1 or 2

Posted by: BrookeOlivia 10th November 2017, 10:06 PM

I wasn't being funny with that comment by the way incase it came across that way just something have never done myself haha, Its not all HMV's though joseph not that am aware of. I have seen fans on taylor forum on here saying they picked it up at HMV today so its just some stores not all of them I don't think.

Posted by: André 10th November 2017, 11:09 PM

Lol, no way this "some HMV stores are banned from selling the album" thing is true.

Posted by: SKOB 11th November 2017, 07:41 AM

Of course it's not, she's the queen of 10's pop but also queen of fake news.

Like the 800k in an hour from iTunes thing. Some of her fans are just delusional spreading the things they come up with as "news"

Posted by: 777666jason 11th November 2017, 08:18 AM

6 MINUTES GET IT RIGHT

Posted by: SKOB 11th November 2017, 10:37 AM

Soo... do the math? I can't https://twitter.com/MintRoyale/status/929292987405873152

Posted by: cqmerqn 11th November 2017, 10:41 AM

43k? I’m probably miles out

Posted by: John-James 11th November 2017, 10:50 AM

I work it out as 46.5k which is only 1k less than what 1989 did on its first day

Posted by: Joe. 11th November 2017, 10:53 AM

She is indeed on 46k.

Sam Smith providing huge competition at #3 with 8k

Posted by: mdh 11th November 2017, 10:56 AM

yeah, I'd say about 60% of all physicals are probably bought at HMV so it's still important

Posted by: UltraReputation 11th November 2017, 10:56 AM

Yassss *.* <3

Posted by: Lomadz 11th November 2017, 11:04 AM

Great sales for Taylor! legend

Posted by: BrookeOlivia 11th November 2017, 11:33 AM

Sam only on 8k so far after his BBC special too? I knew people was overestimating the boost that would give him.

Great to see Taylor on 46k already.

Posted by: cqmerqn 11th November 2017, 11:39 AM

She should be set for 70k then

Posted by: Joe. 11th November 2017, 11:40 AM

I can’t see his album passing x2 plat this time really. It’s the Echo to his Spirit.

Posted by: BrookeOlivia 11th November 2017, 11:45 AM

Echo was robbed then again it did sell over 600k which is no "flop" but when it was compared to Spirit it was a HUGE under performance.

I think you are probably right about Sam not going double plat, I can still see it selling around 400k - 500k over the next few weeks, But there is no "hits" on the album to keep it selling. Nothing at all screams out single and oh that would do well.

Posted by: nigels 11th November 2017, 11:46 AM

It is a bit of a shame as the album is amazing and there are a lot better tracks on the album. Don’t Blame Me is one of the best things she’s ever done

Posted by: timjimlee 11th November 2017, 11:52 AM

A few more I would have thought, Sales in today's update (46k) are higher than Sam Smith's sales in last Saturday's update (35k) and his Album eventually got close to 100k.