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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ Friday Chart Predictions
Posted by: SevenSeize 31st October 2020, 05:55 PM
Ariana Grande's positions should remain at #1 on the singles chart, with a few other tracks from her album looking to enter the Top 10. New releases include Dua Lipa & Angèle's Fever and Meduza & Dermot Kennedy's Paradise
Ariana looks to complete the chart double as her sixth album positions lands this week. Sam Smith's third album Love Goes and Cliff Richard's Music...The Air That I Breathe are set for big debuts, while Bring Me The Horizon release their new EP Post Human: Survival Horror (download/streaming only). There's albums from M Huncho/Nafe Smallz, Amy MacDonald, Black Stone Cherry, Eels, Elvis Costello, CamelPhat and Wizkid
Breakdown of the week
- Saturday: Some information may be posted on social media but it is likely to be missing most streaming data and is unrepresentative.
- Sunday: Official First Look Chart on Radio 1 from 6-7pm. Please do not post spoilers on the forum in advance as this ruins the countdown for any listeners.
- Monday: OCC Top 100 from 5:45pm
- Tuesday: Top 40 update as and when we receive them with requests, this is NOT 100% guaranteed however. The OCC may publish sales flashes of their own accord but likewise, this is not guaranteed. Twitter and social media is your friend for today. Please post any information you find with a source. Do not nag for updates, we will post a top 40 update if we receive one.
- Wednesday: Top 40 update from Music Week from 5:45, and potential top 5 sales but this is not guaranteed.
- Thursday: See Tuesday.
Other notes (please read)
- You may make requests Tuesday to Thursday but outside the top 40, specific positions will not be revealed (unless deemed necessary by a mod).
- Please do not demand a midweek update, one will be posted as and when we receive the information. Patience is a virtue.
- Sales information will be given out as deemed necessary by a moderator, please bear this in mind when making requests. Most requests for sales will be ignored. Any chart requests between No. 41 to 100 will not be answered after Monday's update.
- To keep everyone in the loop of all chart action, please refer to the iTunes and Spotify threads.
Posted by: SevenSeize 31st October 2020, 05:56 PM
Official First Look Chart: Full Update
Source: OCC
1 Ariana Grande - positions
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody
4 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky
5 Tate McRae - you broke me first
6 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
7 Headie One feat. AJ Tracey & Stormzy - Ain't It Different
8 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
9 KSI feat. Craig David & Digital Farm Animals - Really Love
10 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
11 Sigala & James Arthur - Lasting Lover
12 Justin Bieber feat. Chance the Rapper - Holy
13 Clean Bandit & Mabel feat. 24kGoldn - Tick Tock
14 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
15 Sam Smith - Diamonds
16 Joel Corry feat. MNEK - Head & Heart
17 Dua Lipa feat. DaBaby - Levitating
18 Little Mix - Sweet Melody
19 24kGoldn feat. iann dior - Mood
20 Dermot Kennedy - Giants
Posted by: SevenSeize 31st October 2020, 05:56 PM
Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: unknown
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/
1 Ariana Grande - positions (18.0k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (13.7k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (11.6k)
4 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (11.3k)
5 Tate McRae - you broke me first (11.1k)
6-10
6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
11 Sigala & James Arthur - Lasting Lover
13 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
14 Sam Smith - Diamonds
20 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
21-30
22 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
24 Michael Jackson - Thriller ^
25 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
31-40
39 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/
1 Ariana Grande - positions (13.5k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (12.9k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (10.9k)
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (8.0k)
5 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council (5.3k)
6-10
6 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR *
7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
10 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
11-20
11 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
13 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
15 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
16 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
17 Eels - Earth to Dora *
19 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo *
21-30
21 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
23 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
31-40
31 Motorhead - Ace of Spades ^
38 Troye Sivan - In a Dream ^
Click on the above relevant links.
Posted by: SevenSeize 31st October 2020, 05:56 PM
Tuesday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Spotify and YouTube (both for Monday)
Singles
1 Ariana Grande - positions (24.6k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (18.7k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (15.6k)
4 Tate McRae - you broke me first (15.1k)
5 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (15.0k)
6-10
6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
13 Sam Smith - Diamonds
14 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
21-30
22 Paul Harvey & BBC Philharmonic - Four Notes - Paul's Tune *
23 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
26 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
30 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
31-40
36 Michael Jackson - Thriller ^
40 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1 Ariana Grande - positions (16.3k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (15.8k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (13.0k) *
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (10.3k)
5 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR (6.2k) *
6-10
6 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council *
7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
11-20
11 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
14 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
15 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
16 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
18 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
19 Eels - Earth to Dora *
21-30
23 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
24 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
27 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo *
31-40
32 Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2021
Posted by: SevenSeize 31st October 2020, 05:56 PM
Wednesday Top 40 Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data: Spotify and YouTube (both for Tuesday)
Singles
1 Ariana Grande - positions (32.4k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (24.0k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (20.0k)
4 Tate McRae - you broke me first (19.4k)
5 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (18.7k)
6-10
6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
11 Sam Smith - Diamonds
16 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
20 Paul Harvey & BBC Philharmonic - Four Notes - Paul's Tune *
21-30
26 Shawn Mendes - Wonder
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
28 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over
31-40
35 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
38 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
39 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1 Ariana Grande - positions (20.8k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (18.0k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (14.8k) *
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (12.5k)
5 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR (7.0k) *
6-10
6 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council *
7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
11-20
12 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
15 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
16 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
18 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
20 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
21-30
22 Eels - Earth to Dora *
25 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
27 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
29 Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2021
31-40
35 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo *
Posted by: SevenSeize 31st October 2020, 05:57 PM
Thursday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Spotify and YouTube (both for Wednesday)
Singles
1 Ariana Grande - positions (39.1k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (29.4k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (24.4k)
4 Tate McRae - you broke me first (23.6k)
5 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love (22.7k)
6-10
6 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky
9 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
11 Sam Smith - Diamonds
16 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
21-30
22 Paul Harvey & BBC Philharmonic - Four Notes - Paul's Tune *
25 Shawn Mendes - Wonder
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
31-40
36 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
40 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1 Ariana Grande - positions (23.3k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (20.0k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (16.4k) *
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (14.3k)
5 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR (7.8k) *
6-10
6 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council *
7 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
8 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
10 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
11-20
12 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
15 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
16 Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia
17 Elton John - Diamonds
19 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
20 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
21-30
24 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
25 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
28 Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2021
29 Eels - Earth to Dora *
31-40
32 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
Posted by: ts7sfkptm 31st October 2020, 08:43 PM
Was there no First Look today?
EDIT: OOPS it's still Saturday i just realised sorry!
Posted by: Blade 31st October 2020, 08:46 PM
I'm not sure about Ariana's physical situation now as they didn't have any in Tesco earlier (but did have Sam Smith, so releases were updated) and cqmerqn said in the Ari AF that he didn't see any in HMV yesterday 
not sure how orders from her site will work, mine hasn't dispatched yet anyway
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 05:50 PM
10 mins to First Look!
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:01 PM
20 Dermot Kennedy - Giants
Posted by: IdentFan101 1st November 2020, 06:02 PM
I hoping Internet Money to return back to no. 1 or KSI to go to no. 1.
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:02 PM
Hmmm 3 new entries. 2 from Ariana and what's the other one? 
Posted by: Brightest Blue 1st November 2020, 06:03 PM
Paul Harvey?
Posted by: Mart!n 1st November 2020, 06:04 PM
Golden
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:04 PM
19 24kGoldn feat. iann dior - Mood
18 Little Mix - Sweet Melody
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:04 PM
Big drop for Little Mix.
Posted by: Cognizant 1st November 2020, 06:05 PM
How has little mix dropped that much??? I’m so confused!
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:05 PM
Break Up Song was out of the top 20 in the first midweeks of its second week so Sweet Melody's still doing better, and I think it could recover a bit as the week goes on too?
Posted by: chrissmith276 1st November 2020, 06:06 PM
Wasn't expecting such a big drop for LM but guess BUS was the same. Hopefully will stabilise later in week.
Posted by: caseclosed 1st November 2020, 06:06 PM
Pretty sure it’ll climb into the Top 15 as the week goes on.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:08 PM
17 Dua Lipa feat. DaBaby - Levitating
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:08 PM
Another single from LM only likely to spend one week top 10 but open to see me proved wrong as it’s a decent song.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:09 PM
It could easily rebound next week when their album's out tbf
Posted by: legendsglory 1st November 2020, 06:09 PM
It will definitely spend more than one week top 10 as it will get a big boost next week when Confetti is released.
Posted by: caseclosed 1st November 2020, 06:10 PM
Highly doubt it since it’s nearly Top 10 on AM, will probably go back into the Top 20 on Spotify soon especially when it’s moved up on HHUK (it’s 27 now) and the album release this Friday will push it.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:11 PM
16 Joel Corry feat. MNEK - Head & Heart
15 Sam Smith - Diamonds
Posted by: legendsglory 1st November 2020, 06:12 PM
Yes Sam 
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:14 PM
Thought ‘Diamonds’ would have been given a bigger album release boost!
Posted by: Yog 1st November 2020, 06:14 PM
Sam is coming
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:16 PM
14 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash
Posted by: Yog 1st November 2020, 06:16 PM
It’s gaining on ITunes & AM
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:16 PM
Is?
Posted by: Suedehead2 1st November 2020, 06:16 PM
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:17 PM
Grr the worst Halloween song ever.
Posted by: Mart!n 1st November 2020, 06:17 PM
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:19 PM
13 Clean Bandit & Mabel feat. 24kGoldn - Tick Tock
12 Justin Bieber feat. Chance the Rapper - Holy
Posted by: Dan17F1 1st November 2020, 06:22 PM
Has Ariana definitely got 2 new entries or could Thriller be one? I’m surprised that that wouldn’t be here if Monster Mash is!
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:23 PM
Would be quite shocked if Ari didn't have two newies!
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:23 PM
11 Sigala & James Arthur - Lasting Lover
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:23 PM
Kind of gutted I’m only following and not listening in now that ‘Monster Mash’ got a play, wonder will The Pogues get a spin on Sunday 27th December
Posted by: IdentFan101 1st November 2020, 06:26 PM
Monster Mash won't be in the top 20 on Friday, I can tell you that.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:27 PM
10 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive
Posted by: Maestro 1st November 2020, 06:27 PM
Reckon it might even miss the top 40 tbh
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:29 PM
I hope at least 1 of Ariana drops out of the top 10 and Lasting Lover returns to the top 10. 
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:29 PM
9 KSI feat. Craig David & Digital Farm Animals - Really Love
Posted by: Brightest Blue 1st November 2020, 06:30 PM
Motive is defo the best album track
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:30 PM
Holy is probably more likely than both of those to be top 10
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:32 PM
I'm obsessed with the fitness too. 
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:32 PM
I would be shocked if it was top 75 on Friday
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:33 PM
8 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:33 PM
Craig must have new music next year if he’s trying to get another hit!
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:33 PM
Pop Smoke forever and ever top 10.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:35 PM
7 Headie One feat. AJ Tracey & Stormzy - Ain't It Different
Posted by: Bré 1st November 2020, 06:37 PM
'Monster Mash' for top 40 
(curious that it seems to be so far ahead of 'Thriller'? I wouldn't have expected it to be ahead at all let alone by at least 7 places)
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:38 PM
6 Ariana Grande - 34+35
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:40 PM
(curious that it seems to be so far ahead of 'Thriller'? I wouldn't have expected it to be ahead at all let alone by at least 7 places)
Same here always thought ‘Thriller’ was the biggest Halloween song these days.
Posted by: IdentFan101 1st November 2020, 06:40 PM
Why can't this no. 1 instead of positions?!
Posted by: Jason 1st November 2020, 06:40 PM
*sleeps*
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:41 PM
Ari smashing it!
Posted by: Jade 1st November 2020, 06:41 PM
3 Ariana songs top 10 yay *.*
It is being pushed as single #2!
Posted by: Sour Candy 1st November 2020, 06:41 PM
Why isn't Monster Mash on ACR? Thriller surely is.
Posted by: Mart!n 1st November 2020, 06:42 PM
If you plus those numbers together you get
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:42 PM
5 Tate McRae - you broke me first
Posted by: danvember 1st November 2020, 06:42 PM
Who said it wasn't on ACR? It just simply had a load of streams cos of Halloween, it'll drop significantly throughout the rest of the week.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:45 PM
4 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:47 PM
Wish Miley had the success Ariana has, her songs are a lot better and yet she has to release quality like ‘Midnight Sky’ before her songs move up whereas Ariana releases anything and it jumps in at the top spot or top 3 😐
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:48 PM
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody
Posted by: Bjork 1st November 2020, 06:53 PM
wow at Monster Mash so high, and this actually doesn't include Halloween day's stream, it's just Fri streams where Monster Mash was not even top 200 on Spotify
Monster Mash was only marginally ahead of Thriller on iTunes but on Spotify Thriller was already top 100 on Friday
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:53 PM
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade
1 Ariana Grande - positions
Posted by: IdentFan101 1st November 2020, 06:53 PM
Boooo!!!
Posted by: Jade 1st November 2020, 06:55 PM
Yay, should be Ariana's third multi-week #1 after 'thank u, next' and '7 rings' 
Posted by: Sour Candy 1st November 2020, 06:55 PM
But it is flopping, haven't you heard!!
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 06:58 PM
Ariana "flopping" and still outdoing all of her competition
Posted by: Hallucinate 1st November 2020, 06:58 PM
I don’t think Ari will have 3 songs in the top 10 by the end of the week.
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 06:58 PM
Midnight Sky>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Postions
Posted by: Cognizant 1st November 2020, 07:07 PM
Agreed!!
I can’t wait until Plastic Hearts (Miley Cyrus’ forthcoming record) is released on November 27th.
Posted by: Jade 1st November 2020, 07:14 PM
I actually prefer 'Midnight Sky' as a song but don't get this site's obsession with pitting female acts against each other! Ariana and Miley are actually really good friends IRL they're both doing really well.
Posted by: Cognizant 1st November 2020, 07:19 PM
they're both doing really well.Not ‘pitting female artists against each other’ at all! We’re comparing Ariana to her peers... there is a nuanced difference.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st November 2020, 07:20 PM
Ariana does seem to trigger some regular posters in this section though 
Posted by: troylovesmusic 1st November 2020, 07:26 PM
Posted by: Jade 1st November 2020, 07:26 PM
It feels like it happens a little too often for my liking on a wider scale (not just Ariana, off the top of my head the Little Mix vs. Kylie thread was exhausting to read, although 'stan war' toxicity definitely comes into play too) - so this just felt like another example of it. Fair enough if you didn't mean it to be that way.
Posted by: Klumpkin 1st November 2020, 07:29 PM
Where's the positions vs. Lemonade discussion? Our actual top 2 who would be more suitable to compare?
Posted by: Nick Jonas 1st November 2020, 07:43 PM
Maybe Halloween is now classed as active promotion and it’s got a reset
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 1st November 2020, 08:17 PM
I hope Miley can actually get a new peak!
Posted by: pippa 1st November 2020, 08:17 PM
Midnight Sky could repeal this week.
Posted by: Steve201 1st November 2020, 08:27 PM
As someone who doesn’t really Stan or follow Ariana or Miley and they aren’t really my kind of thing I just find it hard to understand why Ariana immediately jumps to number one with (nearly) every release whereas Miley makes great songs and has to rise slowly.
I do like some earlier Ariana releases like ‘Break Free’, ‘One Last Time’ and the fantastic ‘No Tears Left To Cry’. All great pop songs. Maybe I don’t like the more urban leaning releases if that makes sense.
Posted by: Sid_ 1st November 2020, 08:37 PM
I hope 'motive' can stay top 20, the best and (only) good song from Ariana's album.
Posted by: Better Man 1st November 2020, 08:40 PM
Good luck to U2 reissue for Top-5 maybe
Posted by: Suedehead2 1st November 2020, 09:45 PM
I do like some earlier Ariana releases like ‘Break Free’, ‘One Last Time’ and the fantastic ‘No Tears Left To Cry’. All great pop songs. Maybe I don’t like the more urban leaning releases if that makes sense.
No Tears Left To Cry was indeed very good. Unfortunately, a lot of her most recent songs have been fairly mediocre. By contrast, I would agree that Miley Cyrus's most recent work (the last two or three years) has been the best of her career. Still, what do we know?
Posted by: Doctor Blind 1st November 2020, 09:51 PM
I really liked “Love Me Harder” but of course that struggled to number 48. There really isn't anything wrong with that of course, but I've just accepted that I am old and completely out of touch with what is popular.
I should add that the blatant misogyny that often accompanies the criticisms in here (and elsewhere on the internet) DOES make me feel uncomfortable sometimes.
Posted by: Jade 1st November 2020, 09:58 PM
I'm not coming for anyone's taste btw - I'm about as far from a music snob as you can get there have just been issues with pitting females and casual sexism in here in the past, which really put me off from posting, so I feared it was cropping up again. That's totally fair and many people agree that the 'sweetener' singles are her best. I would agree 'no tears left to cry' is a career highlight and 'Love Me Harder' was slept on for sure Doctor B - thankfully top 10 in the U.S.
Posted by: danvember 1st November 2020, 10:13 PM
Love Me Holder is Gold certified, that's more than what a few of her top 10 hits got (Boyfriend, Focus, Imagine, Needy, Stuck With U), more of a sleeper hit really.
Posted by: Sour Candy 2nd November 2020, 07:18 AM
Well, The Weeknd was hardly well known among the GP back then. And that was seven years ago, careers have come and gone since then.
Posted by: Bjork 2nd November 2020, 09:28 AM
Love me Harder was pre-Earned it and Can't feel my face
if released today it would probably be a 10-week #1
Posted by: SmileyKylie 2nd November 2020, 09:36 AM
Come on Cliff!!! 
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 2nd November 2020, 10:21 AM
'Love Me Harder' compared to 'Off The Table' is actually a very stark example of how far the quality has slipped.
Posted by: JosephStyles 2nd November 2020, 04:47 PM
Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: unknown
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/
1 Ariana Grande - positions (18.0k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (13.7k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (11.6k)
4 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (11.3k)
5 Tate McRae - you broke me first (11.1k)
6-10
6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
11 Sigala & James Arthur - Lasting Lover
13 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
14 Sam Smith - Diamonds
20 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
21-30
22 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
24 Michael Jackson - Thriller ^
25 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
31-40
39 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/
1 Ariana Grande - positions (13.5k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (12.9k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (10.9k)
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (8.0k)
5 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council (5.3k)
6-10
6 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR *
7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
10 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
11-20
11 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
13 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
15 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
16 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
17 Eels - Earth to Dora *
19 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo *
21-30
21 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
23 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
31-40
31 Motorhead - Ace of Spades ^
38 Troye Sivan - In a Dream ^
Click on the above relevant links.
Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd November 2020, 04:49 PM
Is anything missing from those album sales? Madness!
Posted by: Anth 2nd November 2020, 04:50 PM
Eeek at Ariana.. is she even gonna pass 20k?
Posted by: JosephStyles 2nd November 2020, 04:50 PM
With ease probably, she's adding quite a lot daily as streaming catches up.
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 04:52 PM
My copy from her store hasn't been dispatched yet and I'm not sure if any of them have
Hopefully it does before the end of the tracking week
Posted by: Anth 2nd November 2020, 04:52 PM
I was expecting more.. maybe Sam Smith could potentially overtake
Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd November 2020, 04:52 PM
I reckon Bring Me The Horizon would be #1 in today's update if their physicals were out this week
Posted by: LewisGT 2nd November 2020, 04:53 PM
I was expecting Sam to be #1 in the albums so I'm delighted that Ari is already top. The copies from her store still haven't shipped so hopefully there's still plenty of sales to be added.
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 04:54 PM
My 'positions' single wasn't dispatched until Thursday of last week so hopefully it's just a later in the week situation again
Posted by: Sour Candy 2nd November 2020, 04:55 PM
So Cliff definitely won't be #1. Quite low for all three
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 04:57 PM
The lack of vinyl format for this is annoying btw - I easily would've snapped one up
Posted by: Maestro 2nd November 2020, 05:03 PM
Has Capaldi broken the consecutive top 10 weeks record yet, if he hasn’t I think he might struggle to get back there this week?
Posted by: SevenSeize 2nd November 2020, 05:03 PM
Ariana must have a ton of sales of missing? obviously she'll be #1 regardless but those numbers seem way too low..
would be good if BMTH can snatch a top 5 place without physical copies!
Posted by: shindymindy 2nd November 2020, 05:03 PM
Those album sales are a lot lower than I thought they would be.
I thought Sam would have more pre-orders
Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 2nd November 2020, 05:05 PM
Wow shocked at the album sales.
Genuinely thought both would have been on around 20k at least.
Posted by: Cognizant 2nd November 2020, 05:05 PM
Jesus Christ I wasn’t expecting such low sales for Ari and Sam. Echoing what others have said and hoping it’s just a ‘things haven’t shipped yet’ and ‘streaming hasn’t been accounted for’ situation.
Posted by: Dan17F1 2nd November 2020, 05:06 PM
Ouch! That’s horrific for both of them, how much data is missing and how much are they both doing per day if that’s possible to know? Thanks 
Posted by: Mart!n 2nd November 2020, 05:09 PM
^^ Calm down its only a commercial its only because there is a shipping problem with her orders. Hopefully it will even out later in the week, talk about dramatic 
Posted by: RobBot 2nd November 2020, 05:09 PM
Gutted not to see bhangra goddess Jane McDonald doing a bit better, hope she can stay top 40 but I know she's a streaming force, so hopefully that can prop her up throughout the week!
Posted by: 777666jason 2nd November 2020, 05:11 PM
Would love Sam Smith to pull of the upset
Posted by: JosephStyles 2nd November 2020, 05:13 PM
Unlikely, Ariana outsold them massively yesterday
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 2nd November 2020, 05:14 PM
Those number for Ariana and Sam are so much lower than i expected, hopefully its just a case of missing sales. I would think U2 will over take Dizzee Rascal and David Bowie, i think dizzee will fall a good bit by the end of the week.
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 05:15 PM
Hopefully ‘34+35’ stays in the top 10, it did climb on Spotify today, that would be a 19th UK top 10 single for her I think!
Posted by: Yog 2nd November 2020, 05:15 PM
COME THRU SAM! Sam
Posted by: ben08 2nd November 2020, 05:16 PM
The UK’s best-seller of the week so far in terms of pure sales, Cliff Richard’s 41st studio album Music… The Air That I Breathe opens at Number 3, and is in line to become Sir Cliff’s 46th Top 10 album.
Cliff needs more fans to stream his music.
Posted by: omrimayo 2nd November 2020, 05:16 PM
Why everyone is so shocked? she's flopping in he US also with this one and her streaming numbers are going really down (especially on today, the 3rd day WW) so... yes it's her not-so-successful-era and everyone has that, hopefully she'll make better music next.
Posted by: Cognizant 2nd November 2020, 05:17 PM
Without sounding too premature, it’s safe to say that the Positions era is a slight underperformance in comparison to Thank U, Next.
Posted by: M4NGO 2nd November 2020, 05:18 PM
I doubt many of Cliff's fans even know what streaming is tbh.
Posted by: Sixth Sense 2nd November 2020, 05:20 PM
That's why there should be an LP version.
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 05:21 PM
Being disappointed is fair and it’s obviously a dip from the enormous high of ‘thank u, next’ but branding it a flop is ridiculous #1 album looking likely, multi-week #1 single and spawning another top 10 hit is also on the cards... it just reads as a projection of people’s own disdain for the album and them wanting it to flop, rather than actually being one
Posted by: Brett-Butler 2nd November 2020, 05:21 PM
Eels is a lot lower than I'd expected, his last few albums went top 10 easily. Although my copy hasn't shipped yet, so it might climb once these are despatched?
Posted by: 777666jason 2nd November 2020, 05:26 PM
Shame
Posted by: omrimayo 2nd November 2020, 05:28 PM
#1 album looking likely, multi-week #1 single and spawning another top 10 hit is also on the cards... it just reads as a projection of people’s own disdain for the album and them wanting it to flop, rather than actually being one Number 1 only cuz the numbers are so low those weeks she releasing, you can't really denied that to cut in 50% or more likely from your last album is not a flop... also in the US, and the numbers today are nasty WW but hey, I won't think you'll be honest with all those photos in your profile... so enjoy, what do I care, you have your opinion and I have facts
Posted by: Bjork 2nd November 2020, 05:30 PM
come on Cliff!! Go to twitter and start a campaign!!!!
Very disappointing top 3 sales
Posted by: Wall 2nd November 2020, 05:33 PM
Surprised to see Miley still as high as 4! Loving that it’s going to be a climber this week *.*
Posted by: RobBot 2nd November 2020, 05:35 PM
It's just such an extreme take. There's such an underwhelming sense of bitterness and anger in your messages as if Ariana has hurt you personally and you're taking overwhelming joy in the MISERY of her chart topping single and album? Poor thing. I think it's fair to say the album isn't selling as well as expected (if these figures are accurate), but to call an era that's going to spawn a #1 single and a #1 album a FLOP is such a reach of a choice of wording.
A flop would be missing top 5, or a single that left no impact on the charts, not an album where every single song went top 30 on streaming on day one. It's an underperformance at absolute worst.
Posted by: Jack 2nd November 2020, 05:36 PM
That's a little rude, Jade was being perfectly fair. In what world is a multi week #1 single and a #1 album as well as a potential further top 10 single a flop?!
Sales aren't going to be great no matter what, especially with the impending lockdown. Yes it's a fall from Thank U Next but no one continues to just go up and up, every star has an end point.In regards to the "you have your opinions, I have facts" - just because you dislike the music yourself doesn't mean it's terrible. I think it's a great cohesive album and better than the likes of Sweetener at the very least.
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 05:37 PM
Sam's album sales are a far more drastic drop from their last but I don't see you branding that a flop. 
I can't even be bothered to engage with the rest of that message, it's so bitter
Posted by: ✖ leww ✖ 2nd November 2020, 05:38 PM
Posted by: Simon. 2nd November 2020, 05:40 PM
omg
Bless her love Jane
Posted by: JosephStyles 2nd November 2020, 05:41 PM
There's no need to be rude, please consider your tone when replying in here.
Ariana will be laughing come the end of the week if she ends on the 30k currently projected. A total that would give her #1 on all but 8 weeks of 2020 so far. Not bad for an album announced less than 2 weeks before it came out, with physicals still not widely available. Ariana's doing well, and to me it sounds like you're trying to justify your own opinion of the album by looking at the sales negatively.
Posted by: Bjork 2nd November 2020, 05:45 PM
but actually if you think about it, Ariana is mostly selling cos of streams, and there's only 2 days of streams on today's mids,
so she'd be able to add at least another 25K from streams
Sam Smith is much more of an under-performance but was sadly expected
don't think Sam has the fanbase anymore, especially the crazy fanbase that buys 5 cassettes and 7 vinyls
even if their label has spent lots of cash on promo and spotify payola, it's not paying off
Posted by: Tafty 2nd November 2020, 05:45 PM
I can't even be bothered to engage with the rest of that message, it's so bitter
Posted by: baccseat 2nd November 2020, 05:48 PM
Tell her to go back to 2013-2015 and not mess up her image then!
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 05:48 PM
I WISH Ariana had 7 vinyl options. 1 of them would be a good start.
Posted by: SmileyKylie 2nd November 2020, 06:02 PM
Anyone for a bit of Disco on Friday?
🤭🤭🤭🤭
Posted by: Jade 2nd November 2020, 06:03 PM
Btw I’m not the ‘crazy stan’ archetype at all - I’m perfectly capable of thinking rationally. I’m obviously a fan of Ariana and felt an urge to add more of a positive balance on this part of the forum, as there was this slightly uncomfortable aura of wanting her to fail that was being parroted over and over again. I’d maybe understand such a rampant attitude if she was a terrible person (as y’know, actual nonces still get hits), but instead all she’s done is release an album that’s not as in line with the forum’s taste as usual.
Going to step back now, stream ‘positions’ and wait for the Jane McDonald chart upset from afar 
Posted by: coi 2nd November 2020, 06:05 PM
Reminds me of when Ed Sheeran's No.6 Collaborations Project was a 'flop' tbh?
Posted by: T Boy 2nd November 2020, 06:05 PM
Jade showing her true colours
Just kidding. Besides, more than one week at no.1 and doing the chart double can’t seriously be call flopping.
Posted by: Lomadz 2nd November 2020, 06:09 PM
Going to step back now, stream ‘positions’ and wait for the Jane McDonald chart upset from afar
WELL SAID
Posted by: Fallin' Folklore 2nd November 2020, 06:10 PM
the way this thread is serving a messT omg, I'm not even ready for how it's gonna be next week 
Cam's album showing up in the midweeks (and top 75 as well) is a pleasant surprise <3 Meghan's xmas album completely bombing unfortunately was expected 
Posted by: coi 2nd November 2020, 06:10 PM
Ariana should still get that number one album with ease.
Also interesting that Bring Me The Horizon's three tracks on the singles chart have ended up at #51, #52 and #53 on the midweek update! Hopefully their album moves into the top five by the end of the week too.
Posted by: Lomadz 2nd November 2020, 06:10 PM
So boring now...please stop
Posted by: Brightest Blue 2nd November 2020, 06:16 PM
Going to step back now, stream ‘positions’ and wait for the Jane McDonald chart upset from afar
Omg go off queen
Posted by: SmileyKylie 2nd November 2020, 06:20 PM
Can I just say, except for Wales there is no lockdown on record stores in UK this week so that cannot be used as a excuse for what seem subdued sales from Ariana and Sam.
Shops close the 5th Nov so will hit Kylie and Little Mix the most on their release weeks.
Ariana physicals hurting her and streaming albums would need huge streams and also she has done no promo in UK, so that's likely her downfall so far. It will probably do fine
As for Sam Smith. Well they have surely lost a lot of fans as lots of their promo is about their personal life etc and less about their music as in the past. People can get fed up of all that and turn off. They have had big promo slots of G Norton and Strictly and it doesn't look like it has helped them much
Posted by: Brightest Blue 2nd November 2020, 06:29 PM
How do you know that it hasn’t helped them much? They could’ve been on like 6k for all we know.
Really pleased that Ari and Sam are ahead of Cliff however!
Posted by: SmileyKylie 2nd November 2020, 06:31 PM
Really pleased that Ari and Sam are ahead of Cliff however!
Well G Norton was over a week ago......
Posted by: Brightest Blue 2nd November 2020, 06:33 PM
Hahaha true!
Posted by: jlj 2nd November 2020, 06:40 PM
I think Positions (in terms of sales /chart run) might be similar to ANTI by Rihanna. That had rather similar opening sales at this point on its chart debut (although it did enter at #7 here!).
The reaction to that album at first by a lot of fans including me was that it wasn’t that great then slowly but surely it begun to click. It stuck around on the charts and ended up getting a cult following. I think Positions the album could be similar. It is an album what gets better once you listen more. Arianas longevity will be the most important thing and I think she’ll definitely manage decent longevity with this. I’m sure Ariana and her team are happy with how well she’s doing though.
Posted by: Mack. 2nd November 2020, 06:48 PM
How is topping both charts at the same time a flop? That's a new one for me. Ariana released an album and it's like the critics are out sharply. It's just a chart prediction thread isn't it??
Posted by: 777666jason 2nd November 2020, 06:51 PM
I'd rather Sam get it over ariana but gosh it's getting dramatic in here
Posted by: oof 2nd November 2020, 07:00 PM
next week is going to be a mess omg
anyways stream positions for now
Posted by: Yog 2nd November 2020, 07:05 PM
Y’all have to remember Sam has had multiple delays to their not mention Sam did not have much time for preorders for “Love Goes” barely an month
This entire era was starting very well with DWAS & HDYS being massive hits, then I’m ready and delay utterly destroyed the era’s momentum in the US and their home country, I don’t think Sam is over at the slightest just an massive misstep, Diamonds is literally blowing on ITunes & Apple Music and gaining on Spotify
So clearly UK still see’s Sam appealing, just this pandemic was good for their career, I’m sure they’ll bounce back for SS4
Posted by: :') 2nd November 2020, 07:08 PM
How is Lasting Lover that high still? #1 on Google play?
Posted by: Sid_ 2nd November 2020, 07:16 PM
Low sales for Ari and Sam 
Posted by: :') 2nd November 2020, 07:33 PM
There must be streaming data missing. Miley at #4 and Lasting Lover #11 does not add up 
Posted by: ts7sfkptm 2nd November 2020, 07:39 PM
Some people here...
I'll be happy regardless of who takes the #1, but am rooting for Sam!
Posted by: Better Man 2nd November 2020, 07:42 PM
So I see that Bruce's album will stay on Number 1 this week.
Posted by: Tefo 2nd November 2020, 07:43 PM
I was expecting Sam and Ariana to have at least 25k already. Even though their album campaign was destroyed after pandemic began I thought Sam Smith is big enough figure to have decent pre-orders of 'Love Goes'. Also Dizzee Rascal making midweek top 10 is a surprise to me. I thought his relevancy in 2020 is non-existent and album will be a massive flop.
Posted by: Steve201 2nd November 2020, 07:46 PM
Dizzee will likely fall. Disappointing sales for the top 2 albums its likely to be like this throughout Q4 unfort!
Posted by: Yog 2nd November 2020, 08:00 PM
Again. Barely one months time while bringing forth another different album after an lengthy delay, if released the original SS3, the sales would’ve been ten times more but whatever.. Sam can easily bounce back after this
Posted by: Andrew. 2nd November 2020, 08:11 PM
I stan Ari, but taking my loon glasses off (is that the correct terminology x) those sales are disappointing. I was expecting her to be much closer to Sweetener’s sales, she might get there in the end. The problem is probs pure sales which must be pretty low, but hopefully when website sales come in they’ll be much healthier! Stick with it pure pop gays, it’s an album
Posted by: Tefo 2nd November 2020, 08:22 PM
Yeah, I think it's actually good that they released an album now as they had to somehow close this era, even if the sales might not be too impressive. Now Sam can move on to the next one and have a success with it. They're definitely not over. I just thought Sam might have a little bit higher pre-orders now, even despite the messy campaign for the last few months.
Posted by: Sour Candy 2nd November 2020, 08:27 PM
Where?
Posted by: Cognizant 2nd November 2020, 08:29 PM
I don’t think anyone is suggesting Ariana is flopping, more so that the album is, so far, underperforming in comparison to the juggernaut that is Thank U, Next.
I personally think she should have taken a longer break from music to recharge her batteries and come up with a better album. She already had two hits this year and I think looking in retrospect, Ariana will realise that releasing her sixth studio album now wasn’t strategically sound.
Posted by: Steve201 2nd November 2020, 08:33 PM
Strange the way their album wasn’t up for preorder earlier in the year as it would have racked up quite the preorders with each single release and the delay. Mustn’t have been able to though!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 2nd November 2020, 08:52 PM
Omrimayo is.
Posted by: Bjork 2nd November 2020, 09:24 PM
sadly Sam Smith is signed to Capitol, who seem totally clueless when it comes to handling an album campaign
what artist is also on Capitol? Katy Perry
and the album campaigns have been almost a carbon-copy for both Katy Perry and Sam Smith
instead of releasing the album after their big hit, they waited and waited and released bad choices of singles one after the other
dragging the campaign for ages looking for an elusive 2nd hit that never came
and they end with a huge underperformance of an album
Posted by: ts7sfkptm 2nd November 2020, 09:28 PM
what artist is also on Capitol? Katy Perry
and the album campaigns have been almost a carbon-copy for both Katy Perry and Sam Smith
instead of releasing the album after their big hit, they waited and waited and released bad choices of singles one after the other
dragging the campaign for ages looking for an elusive 2nd hit that never came
and they end with a huge underperformance of an album
Agreed - they're disappointing.
I wonder if the 'To Die For' pre-orders counted towards this or were they all cancelled?
Posted by: Tefo 2nd November 2020, 09:30 PM
Going back to Ariana: I don't think there's much sense comparing 'Positions' to 'Thank U, Next'. Personally, I felt a long time ago that TUN era is her peak era because of how massive it was. Most artists, even the biggest stars with decades-long careers tend to have this one era that is so successfull that it's simply impossible to beat it or replicate. And that doesn't mean they flop after that. They still have number one singles, platinum albums and so on. Just that one extremely massive era is bigger than anything else and happens once in a lifetime. And that's natural. So I knew that next Ariana album won't be as big as TUN before it was even announced that 'Positions' exist. Simply beacause I couldn't imagine a bigger era than 'Thank U, Next'. Maybe there were people who thought that 'Positions' will outsell 'Thank U, Next' but tbh I don't think there were many of them! So I don't think that comparing 'Positions' to TUN is a way to prove that it flopped. Because going with the same logic I can tell you all a fascinating story about Adele career-ending flop in 2015 when her album sold only 23 million copies which was less than what '21' did. Is your 12 times platinum album a flop beacause the previous one is 17 times platinum? And no, I'm not really Ariana fan or something.
Posted by: Yog 2nd November 2020, 09:35 PM
what artist is also on Capitol? Katy Perry
and the album campaigns have been almost a carbon-copy for both Katy Perry and Sam Smith
instead of releasing the album after their big hit, they waited and waited and released bad choices of singles one after the other
dragging the campaign for ages looking for an elusive 2nd hit that never came
and they end with a huge underperformance of an album
Thankfully, theirs been rumors of Sam leaving capitol and going to Atlantic records, they recently followed them and the record label followed back
Posted by: SmileyKylie 2nd November 2020, 09:43 PM
Come on Cliff!
Posted by: pippa 2nd November 2020, 10:36 PM
The album sales are very disappointing and Cliff Richard much closer to Ariana Grande and Sam Smith than I ever expected.
I expected both the Top 2 to be over 30,000 with Cliff on the sales he has now and a very distant 3rd.
Posted by: Yog 2nd November 2020, 11:05 PM
I wonder if the 'To Die For' pre-orders counted towards this or were they all cancelled?
Canceled, it was an different tracklist
Posted by: M4NGO 3rd November 2020, 12:10 AM
I'm not so sure about that, Kylie and Little Mix are going to have massive sales! I'd be surprised if either of them opened with less than 50k.
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 12:20 AM
omrimayo the head of the international flop music releases committee hath spoken. positions is officially certified... platinum flop
Posted by: Cognizant 3rd November 2020, 10:04 AM
Have you heard of paragraphs!
That was a chore to read.
Posted by: Bjork 3rd November 2020, 10:12 AM
of course you can compare Positions to Thank U Next, what else you wanna to compare it to?
not to say it flopped, thats silly, but to say it's underperforming
of course you can, it's pretty silly to say you cannot imho
actually what you have to do is compare it to Thank U Next but put it into context
same with Adele if you compare 21 and 25, you do the comparison but put it into context
that's how you do. proper analysis
Posted by: Cognizant 3rd November 2020, 10:27 AM
not to say it flopped, thats silly, but to say it's underperforming
of course you can, it's pretty silly to say you cannot imho
actually what you have to do is compare it to Thank U Next but put it into context
same with Adele if you compare 21 and 25, you do the comparison but put it into context
that's how you do. proper analysis
Exactly!
Posted by: SmileyKylie 3rd November 2020, 10:28 AM
are we expecting Sam Smith to win this battle with Arianna now? todays update will be interesting
Posted by: omrimayo 3rd November 2020, 10:29 AM
not to say it flopped, thats silly, but to say it's underperforming
of course you can, it's pretty silly to say you cannot imho
actually what you have to do is compare it to Thank U Next but put it into context
same with Adele if you compare 21 and 25, you do the comparison but put it into context
that's how you do. proper analysis
Thanks, and again for everyone else... we'll speak in a few weeks time, It's number 1 cuz of luck of competition in general, here and in the US (300 points is enough there while Drake did 670 few months back and was blocked from number 1) but fine... whatever. Done talking about her, no one will remember this era by the end of this year anyway.
Posted by: omrimayo 3rd November 2020, 10:30 AM
I'm not the one to blame if those 60%-ish lower than her last era which happened 2 years ago are enough for you cuz she's "number 1".
Posted by: miichaelking21 3rd November 2020, 10:34 AM
some of you guys have ALOT of spare energy for popstars you claim not to like...
Posted by: omrimayo 3rd November 2020, 10:37 AM
By "some of you" I'm sure it's just me... and thanks, and I do like her, I'm allowed to hate this album and give my opinion about her sales.
Posted by: shindymindy 3rd November 2020, 10:43 AM
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 11:39 AM
what a turnaround from "you have your opinion and I have facts". I would suggest that the delivery and attitude are the things that irk most people who replied to you, not the fact you dislike (or how you put it - "hate") the album. You trying to discredit this album by branding it a flop based on incomplete Monday midweeks won't change the fans' opinion. People like what they like and there's no point in arguing about semantics. Maybe you'll have more of a case on Friday evening after full sales are available and you'll get that validation you so desperately seem to seek here but I doubt it.
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 11:41 AM
sorry, i should've put more PARAGRAPHS in my post
people aren't capable
of reading more than
2 lines of text
these days
xo
Posted by: rio309 3rd November 2020, 12:02 PM
Returning briefly to the chart predictions - could the BBC 4 Notes song sneak into the Top 40? Looks to have exploded on iTunes
Posted by: Tefo 3rd November 2020, 12:16 PM
not to say it flopped, thats silly, but to say it's underperforming
of course you can, it's pretty silly to say you cannot imho
actually what you have to do is compare it to Thank U Next but put it into context
same with Adele if you compare 21 and 25, you do the comparison but put it into context
that's how you do. proper analysis
What I wanted to say is the fact that 'Positions' is not as big as 'Thank U, Next' is not really an argument to prove that it flopped/underperformed because it was never going to be as big.
Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd November 2020, 12:38 PM
This!
Posted by: Bjork 3rd November 2020, 12:44 PM
I disagree, it depends on how much worst it does. It's not the same having a drop of 10% in sales than having a 50% drop.
Posted by: JulianT 3rd November 2020, 01:04 PM
Will be interesting to see if it has leapt up from its #71 Monday position today. The iTunes #2 is probably only doing about 3k per week and around 10k is needed for the 40, so it will need to beat everything manyes over and stay at that level for several days. It looks to be doing very well at the moment though.
Posted by: Dark Horse 3rd November 2020, 01:37 PM
Positions (the lead single) is not even in the same league as Thank u next...
Thank u next was an infectious pop anthem with massive appeal, Positions sounds at best like a Janet Jackson B-Side from 1993.... so the comparison is unfair.... therefore the new album was never going to be as successful as the former....
Posted by: Tafty 3rd November 2020, 01:52 PM
The release rollout is completely different to 'thank u, next'. So they are uncomparable.
Posted by: 365 3rd November 2020, 01:58 PM
TUN had a lead in of two huge hits in the months leading up to the album.
Posted by: SmileyKylie 3rd November 2020, 02:06 PM
Big hits i guess mean big playlists for streaming
Does an album have to have big hits to sell well though? Its a bit of an excuse no?
Artists and record companies need to work promo and thinking out of the box etc
Posted by: Tefo 3rd November 2020, 02:13 PM
Sure, but
'Thank U, Next' opened with 65k in February 2019. The album era started 3 months earlier and before the album dropped there were already 2 massive number one singles from it. While lead single from 'Positions' was released only a week before the album. So the album came out of nowhere and there wasn't really that much hype and anticipation for it.
With the lack of proper album campaign were we really expecting it to do 65k as 'Thank U, Next' or even 50k? I definitely wasn't. But still its lead will probably spend two weeks at number one plus all 14 songs from the album are currently top 60 on Spotify UK. So if we put it into context I think it's not that bad.
For me
Posted by: Steve201 3rd November 2020, 02:49 PM
So 94 people who voted in the BJ sales for Arianas new album seemingly overestimated here if you go by this - doesn’t mean anything but shows people thought she would do a little more than she is
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=239232&pid=6693315&st=40&#entry6693315
Posted by: Bré 3rd November 2020, 03:41 PM
Ari's sales are definitely lower than I was expecting ngl (maybe not helped if website sales haven't been shipped yet?) but there was really no chance it was ever going to do as well as 'thank u, next' - at the end of the day it's still a #1 album with a multi-week #1 single from it, she's doing just fine.
Sam's sales are really a big oof though. If you'd told me the other day Ari would be on 13.5k in the first mids I'd have taken that as a guaranteed #1 for Sam. I really didn't think they had lost this much album sales clout. A shame when this has been easily their best singles run to date.
Posted by: Dircadirca 3rd November 2020, 03:59 PM
I could see Sam doing decently in the long run if only because the album is loaded with 2 years of hits on it that'll retain streams akin to Dua Lipa's first album.
Posted by: Addyablo! 3rd November 2020, 04:00 PM
I need Ariana to release her next album by March and go full pop bangers (and maybe that's her plan, who knows 
) and make the next era bigger than this one (just the way she did with Sweetener and TUN)!!!!
Posted by: jlj 3rd November 2020, 04:07 PM
) and make the next era bigger than this one (just the way she did with Sweetener and TUN)!!!!It’s something she’d probably do
but I think after this album it would be beneficial if she had a full year without releasing anything to try and build up hype for AG7.
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd November 2020, 04:23 PM
Id be more for Ariana taking a break, i think from over exposure i just went off her, the same happened with Rihanna a few years back, it was just non stop.
Posted by: jlj 3rd November 2020, 04:27 PM
Rihanna and Ariana are similar in certain ways in terms of their huge success across the singles charts and how relentless they can be at releasing. She’s the Rihanna of the late 10’s early 20s for sure.
It’s crazy to think that since Rihanna’s last album we’ve had four albums from Ariana as well
Posted by: TomJ1991 3rd November 2020, 04:31 PM
Will Capaldi finally fall out of the top 10? Or does he have something up his sleeve?
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 04:49 PM
I mean, positions is definitely a flop. That’s like saying Madame X was a roaring success in the US because it reached #1. It’s all relative.
Posted by: omrimayo 3rd November 2020, 04:51 PM
FINALLY!
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 04:51 PM
Thank u next was an infectious pop anthem with massive appeal, Positions sounds at best like a Janet Jackson B-Side from 1993.... so the comparison is unfair.... therefore the new album was never going to be as successful as the former....
Something tells me you haven’t heard a Janet Jackson B-side from 1993. The difference between Ariana and Janet is that Janet switched up her sound... her albums don’t sound the same start to finish yet they all have a cohesive theme. Ariana just isn’t that versatile
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 04:54 PM
It’s like reputation all over again. An album can still be a big seller and be a flop if it’s nowhere near as big a seller as their last album. MJ’s Invincible sold 10 million and is still regarded as a flop.
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 04:58 PM
Fan excuse bingo... folklore’s rollout is completely different from Lover’s and it’s performing slightly better. I don’t understand this argument, surprise releases aren’t that rare anymore and it hasn’t hindered anyone of Taylor or Beyoncé’s caliber as the music has been up to par. Ariana’s just isn’t
Posted by: jimwatts 3rd November 2020, 05:08 PM
He was at #18 yesterday and I could definitely see him overtaking at least 8 of the albums in the #7 to #17 range (albeit without me knowing the sales for those at the upper end of that scale).
Posted by: Jack 3rd November 2020, 06:36 PM
It's interesting how much energy people go into wanting artists to flop just because they don't like the material. A #1 single and album is nowhere near a flop but some of you are unwilling to listen and seem to take pleasure in it "flopping" for some reason. Boredom maybe?
Either way, Ariana remains unbothered.
Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd November 2020, 06:40 PM
Positions (the single) is already number one in the US and UK. Positions (album) will do the same. But yeah, it is comparable to Madame X.
Posted by: slowdown73 3rd November 2020, 06:51 PM
Either way, Ariana remains unbothered.
Well it’s my personal opinion but Ariana’s single is just not very good and I think she’s really overrated. Her best music was just before she became more successful and since then the quality of her music has declined sharply.
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 07:02 PM
Either way, Ariana remains unbothered.
It’s more about trying to validate their personal opinion that the album is not good and being able to say ‘i told you so’. Petty and unnecessary.
Posted by: Jack 3rd November 2020, 07:07 PM
Exactly, it's fine if you don't like the album, it's not her most commercial and I get it. I personally love it but I'm not going to force anyone to feel that way.
I wouldn't even call Justin's recent era a flop and I hated that, and that iirc did worse than what Ariana is doing now. The only real flop from this year is something like Katy Perry (unfortunately).
Posted by: Dark Horse 3rd November 2020, 07:14 PM
of course i have heard a Janet B-side, i’m a massive fan of hers and her 1993 Janet album is one of my top 10 albums of all time...
what i meant is that the new Ariana album is trying to sound like the early 90s pop/R&B female singers such as Janet & Mariah while the outcome is nowhere near as good...
Posted by: Tafty 3rd November 2020, 07:22 PM
I think people are ultimately mistaking an under performance for a flop. I'd have definitely said Ari would be closer to about 40k-50k than she's currently projected to do, but I actually think releasing 'positons' a week before kinda sucked hype away a little bit. Casual interest isn't as strong with that as it would be if she came back with another song (something like ntltc or 7 rings etc..) this is a lot more subdued and had she just released the album instead of going with a single a week before, I could definitely have seen a stronger opening week sales for her.
I do think this is going to hold up quite decently in all honesty. So the Madame X comparison is completely and utterly absurd. It's not going to do 'thank u, next' numbers, but it's going to be the usual kind of decline in sales that every major artist has at some point in their career. Some of you are acting like it's over for her, with added bitterness just coz of your personal feelings about the album. It's doing fine, under performing slightly - sure, but it's not a flop.
EDIT: Weren't some of you also claiming tu,n to be a flop, despite it being one of the biggest albums on streaming?
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:23 PM
Either way, Ariana remains unbothered.
Exactly like some of y’all seem to rejoice every Christmas when the OCC scams Mariah out of a #1.
And btw, the Madame X comparisons were in response to people claiming a #1 peak automatically makes something not a flop. For Madonna’s standards in 2019 Madame X did pretty well but is still considered a flop, whereas y’all take offence to us branding Ariana at her peak opening with similar numbers as also a flop... make it make sense
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:29 PM
what i meant is that the new Ariana album is trying to sound like the early 90s pop/R&B female singers such as Janet & Mariah while the outcome is nowhere near as good...
I don’t think it sounds anything like them, and I’m the biggest Janet and Mariah fan on this site
it sounds more like the pretentious PBR&B you’d expect Tinashe and Jhené Aiko to make
Posted by: Tafty 3rd November 2020, 07:32 PM
I don't think this sounds anything like Tinashe at all? Like, nothing at all? The closest to Tinashe for me is 'west side' and even that's just flourishes.
This definitely reminds me of early to mid 90's Mariah (not sure about Janet as I haven't heard any of her albums ) and I'm making my way through Mariah's discography now (I'm struggling with this period as they're all blending a bit to me but, we'll see)
Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd November 2020, 07:33 PM
What's wrong with Tinashe and Jhene Aiko? I don't get this thread at all..
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 07:36 PM
Why does one need to insult and belittle music genres one does not understand / isn't a fan of? okdotcom :/
Posted by: HausofHitchcock 3rd November 2020, 07:36 PM
Definitely see the Mariah comparisons but do not see the Janet comparisona at all? Mariah and Janet are world's apart musically when you listen to their albums.
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 07:37 PM
Anything that's even slightly going outside of the mainstream pop whore realm is deemed bad and 'pretentious'. Apparently.
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:40 PM
Lol, I love R&B and it makes me mad to see this album being branded R&B. It’s just not. And the Ariana stans that have overnight became experts and the authority on what qualifies as R&B upsets me. I don’t even like her pop albums either. Just because something is slow and monotonous does not make it R&B. Vocally yes it’s Mariah inspired but production wise, lyrically, musically there are no other similarities. Certainly not to Janet either.
positions is the Frank Ocean and Jhené Aiko ~vibey~ “R&B”, not real R&B
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:41 PM
Hah, my username is named after a Janet Jackson song. An actual slow jam R&B song. Try again
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 07:42 PM
it sounds more like the pretentious PBR&B you’d expect Tinashe and Jhené Aiko to makeThus automatically making it bad and a flop. Great logic. Put down all artists who do anything slightly out of the box and experiment with genres. Stifle creativity.
The toxicity of pop stans. I just can't.
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:44 PM
The toxicity of pop stans. I just can't.
Lol you want me to be a pop stan so much. What gives you that idea?
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 07:47 PM
positions is the Frank Ocean and Jhené Aiko ~vibey~ “R&B”, not real R&B
Erm okay...
I'm not sure why this is even a discussion, I'm not claiming this is R&B and it wasn't even my point, it's you who want to put this album into a box that you're comfortable with ( "Flop", "not real R&B") and discredit it altogether.
Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd November 2020, 07:48 PM
I would say that "vibey r&b" is still r&b, just one version of it.
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:50 PM
I'm not sure why this is even a discussion, I'm not claiming this is R&B and it wasn't even my point, it's you who want to put this album into a box that you're comfortable with ( "Flop", "not real R&B") and discredit it altogether.You are the one that branded me a close-minded pop stan all because I don’t like one album. Ariana isn’t immune to criticism
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:52 PM
And by the way, I said “pretentious PBR&B”. It’s a subgenre. You might wanna amend that
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 07:54 PM
There's a difference between criticism and going out of your way to express dislike and disdain time after time when it's not necessary or appropriate all while dragging other completely irrelevant to the discussion black artists through mud.
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 07:56 PM
... people already compared it favourably to Mariah and Janet, which is just untrue. So I compared it unfavourably to Tinashe and Jhené... what’s the problem? God you just can’t let somebody disagree with the mob
Now can you please stop steering this thread off topic?
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd November 2020, 08:01 PM
I assume we wont be getting midweeks today with them not posted.
Posted by: bluebitchboy 3rd November 2020, 08:02 PM
Oh I hope we don't, I'm totally thrilled to read page after page of irrelevant nonsense about comparisons to Ariana.
Posted by: No Sleeep 3rd November 2020, 08:08 PM
I see what you’re trying to do with that edit. Ariana is not black. I mentioned two artists who make a specific modern subgenre of R&B that I’m not a fan that Ariana is clearly trying to replicate, but I love R&B overall... we’re talking about R&B, a black genre, so no surprise those two artists are black. I don’t like that subgenre overall but they do it better than Ariana and receive 1/100th of the recognition
Posted by: Dark Horse 3rd November 2020, 08:12 PM
Mariah Carey & Janet r worlds apart musically??? thats weird even though they’re both classified as pop-r&b and they have shared the same songwriters , collaborators throughout their careers ... u have probably to dig in through Janet’s early 90s discography and Mariah’s more upbeat songs from the same period and u’ll get my point...
Posted by: chrissmith276 3rd November 2020, 08:27 PM
13 pages and we don't even have Tuesday mids out yet...
Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd November 2020, 08:29 PM
Well on that note x
Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd November 2020, 08:29 PM
Tuesday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Spotify and YouTube (both for Monday)
Singles
1 Ariana Grande - positions (24.6k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (18.7k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (15.6k)
4 Tate McRae - you broke me first (15.1k)
5 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (15.0k)
6-10
6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
13 Sam Smith - Diamonds
14 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
21-30
22 Paul Harvey & BBC Philharmonic - Four Notes - Paul's Tune *
23 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
26 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
30 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
31-40
36 Michael Jackson - Thriller ^
40 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1 Ariana Grande - positions (16.3k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (15.8k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (13.0k) *
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (10.3k)
5 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR (6.2k) *
6-10
6 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council *
7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
11-20
11 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
14 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
15 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
16 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
18 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
19 Eels - Earth to Dora *
21-30
23 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
24 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
27 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo *
31-40
32 Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2021
Posted by: spiceboy 3rd November 2020, 08:30 PM
Huh? They are on the front page:
Singles
1 Ariana Grande - positions (24.6k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (18.7k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (15.6k)
4 Tate McRae - you broke me first (15.1k)
5 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (15.0k)
6-10
6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
13 Sam Smith - Diamonds
14 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
21-30
22 Paul Harvey & BBC Philharmonic - Four Notes - Paul's Tune *
23 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
26 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
30 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
31-40
36 Michael Jackson - Thriller ^
40 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1 Ariana Grande - positions (16.3k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (15.8k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (13.0k) *
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (10.3k)
5 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR (6.2k) *
6-10
6 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council *
7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
11-20
11 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
14 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
15 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
16 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
18 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
19 Eels - Earth to Dora *
21-30
23 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
24 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
27 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo *
31-40
32 Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2021
Posted by: spiceboy 3rd November 2020, 08:31 PM
Ah you beat me to it
I'm really surprised to see Sam and Ariana so close! I was expecting Ariana to trounce Sam, could it be possible Sam could sneak the #1 spot?
Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd November 2020, 08:33 PM
Bruce's second week is impressive!
Posted by: Jade 3rd November 2020, 08:36 PM
Still no email from Ariana's store about CDs or cassettes being dispatched yet c'monnnn
good to see her holding on at #1 despite that and the missing Spotify data
Posted by: Tefo 3rd November 2020, 08:37 PM
Exactly. Non-streaming artist easily getting second week with over 10k is not something you see everyday.
Posted by: Brett-Butler 3rd November 2020, 08:37 PM
Eels did despatch yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have helped his chart position. After 2 top 10 albums it's a shame it looks like this one will end up outside the top 20.
Posted by: :') 3rd November 2020, 08:39 PM
Where is Levitating please?
Posted by: Brightest Blue 3rd November 2020, 08:41 PM
Diamonds
Pls stay top 15!!
Posted by: Bjork 3rd November 2020, 08:43 PM
is Sam's label not reducing the price of the album? it'd be easy to overcome such small difference
if they drop the prices or do signed CDs etc
Posted by: Sour Candy 3rd November 2020, 08:43 PM
His previous one did 14k in the second week too so that's clearly a pattern. Good for him!
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd November 2020, 08:45 PM
only around 500 between Ariana and Sam, sams team need up to the anti as if they do they could get the number 1.
Posted by: Yog 3rd November 2020, 08:47 PM
SAM NEEDS AN DISCOUNT NOW!
Posted by: Jade 3rd November 2020, 08:49 PM
Ari's strongest weapon is streaming and there's missing Spotify data - Joseph do you still think she's likely to walk it?
Posted by: Wall 3rd November 2020, 08:50 PM
I wonder if Sam can win the battle especially with Ariana’s streaming dropping in comparison to the start of the week!
Also so frustrated for Camelphat!
Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd November 2020, 08:53 PM
Missing streaming will absolutely help her! And if there's missing official store data too, I think Ari should easily manage it unless Sam's team pull out the stops in a huge way.
Posted by: Bjork 3rd November 2020, 08:58 PM
also too bad Sam's vinyls were not synchronised and are out in a couple weeks, if out this week, could have made a difference
Posted by: chrissmith276 3rd November 2020, 09:01 PM
Positions (single) could fall behind Lemonade next week then I reckon?
Posted by: spiceboy 3rd November 2020, 09:05 PM
I hope Sam's team pull out all the stops. Supporting Sam because they are HOME GROWN BRITISH TALENT!
Posted by: rio309 3rd November 2020, 09:08 PM
That answers the question about the Paul Harvey track then - 50 place jump since yesterday! And has had another strong day on iTunes today (about 8x the number two song)
Posted by: Andrew. 3rd November 2020, 09:15 PM
Surprised Ari didn’t extend her lead. She better get that #1. 😭
Posted by: 365 3rd November 2020, 09:17 PM
I really think despite the low sales, Sam's album will be consistently in the top 10 for the rest of Q4. It will be their lowest seller by quite some way but respectable enough considering the drop in market since their last release.
Posted by: Klaus 3rd November 2020, 09:17 PM
Kidz flops
Posted by: 777666jason 3rd November 2020, 09:26 PM
Could Monster mash actually hold on suprised it's only dropping a couple places a day
Posted by: ___∆___ 3rd November 2020, 09:44 PM
After listening to both albums - COME ON SAM!
Posted by: omrimayo 3rd November 2020, 09:49 PM
Both of them doing bad numbers, I support Sam this time, their album is just better.
Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd November 2020, 09:51 PM
You've mentioned
Posted by: Bjork 3rd November 2020, 09:57 PM
actually both Ariana and Sam albums are terrible, Cliff should be #1 on merit
Posted by: omrimayo 3rd November 2020, 09:57 PM
Why so bitter? Is it your forum? What have I said that it's so harmful for you? Just don't respond to me pelase and thank you. I've had enough.
Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd November 2020, 10:02 PM
I'm not bitter at all, but you've made yourself very clear in this thread and there's no point repeating yourself ad infinitum. You don't like Ariana's album, you don't want her to be #1, you think she's flopping, what's left to be said?
Posted by: Yog 3rd November 2020, 10:06 PM
Maybe Sam can score that #1 in the upcoming weeks, just because they peak at #2 doesn’t mean they can’t eventually go #1 and with Diamonds finally gaining & growing, it’s possible
Posted by: T Boy 3rd November 2020, 10:06 PM
I can’t wait for next week’s thread.
Posted by: lotita 3rd November 2020, 10:08 PM
post of the year
Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd November 2020, 10:09 PM
Posted by: ___∆___ 3rd November 2020, 10:18 PM
I doubt Sam can make it to #1 if they miss out this week as there are releases from Kylie, Little Mix, McFly, Steps, Michael Ball & Alfie Boe, AC/DC, Gary Barlow, Iron Maiden, Miley Cyrus etc., coming up.
Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd November 2020, 10:20 PM
Yeah this week is definitely Sam's only chance unfortunately
Posted by: Klumpkin 3rd November 2020, 10:20 PM
can we nominate this for '2020's Worst Thread'? it's really quite unreadable and surely not enjoyable for any party? 
Good to see Ariana still doing well! I'm quite surprised KSI has dropped off, I thought that could go strength to strength and challenge for #1 soon after such a strong debut! Also would low-key enjoy hearing Monster Mash in the chart show on Friday!
Posted by: ___∆___ 3rd November 2020, 10:22 PM
Totally this - the one thing that ruins Buzzjack tbh.
Posted by: dj_tim_e 3rd November 2020, 10:31 PM
Thirded
Posted by: Zak 3rd November 2020, 10:51 PM
Wait until the mess that is Kylie Vs Little Mix next week before declaring any thread the worst of 2020.
Posted by: b 3rd November 2020, 10:53 PM
If you’re referring to Joseph’s last name it’s spelled Pelosi
Posted by: miichaelking21 3rd November 2020, 10:55 PM
does anybody know where Sweet Melody is at?
Posted by: Doctor Blind 3rd November 2020, 10:57 PM
Yes.
Posted by: Klumpkin 3rd November 2020, 10:58 PM
Just a nomination! It could be topped of course
Posted by: Doctor Blind 3rd November 2020, 10:58 PM
...Oh you'd like a position: Like JosephStyles' bitterness*, it's doubled since last week.
*according to Omrimayo
Posted by: Mart!n 3rd November 2020, 11:09 PM
Pretty much still in the Top 40 Singles chart, if that helps
Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd November 2020, 11:10 PM
Hmmm, those numbers look a bit underwhelming for Ariana, anyone else agree?
Posted by: Cognizant 3rd November 2020, 11:20 PM
Does anyone know what Dangerous Woman, Sweetner and Thank U, Next opened with?
Posted by: Klumpkin 3rd November 2020, 11:22 PM
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=214826
Check first post of this thread
Posted by: Brightest Blue 3rd November 2020, 11:23 PM
45k sweetener
65k thank u, next
Posted by: Brightest Blue 3rd November 2020, 11:23 PM
Oop x
Posted by: baccseat 4th November 2020, 01:10 AM
This week is taking too long... can we just crown Ariana #1 and move on. Sam being so close with such horrible material is irking me.
Hope they just take the L this week. They should've released whatever they had ready in like August last year with HDYS. There was hype there.. not so much now.
Posted by: pippa 4th November 2020, 02:21 AM
Diamonds is Sam Smith's best single in a long time and is helping the album.
Posted by: troylovesmusic 4th November 2020, 02:57 AM
Posted by: Jay* 4th November 2020, 02:58 AM
Ariana Grande
Monday update
Total so far: 13,479
Physicals: 3,738 [CD: 3,738]
Downloads: 1,780
Streaming: 7,961
Tuesday update
Total so far: 16,342
Physicals: 4,233 [CD: 4,233]
Downloads: 1,902
Streaming: 10,207
Monday's sales
Total: +2,863
Physicals: +495 [CD: +495]
Downloads: +122
Streaming: +2,246
--------------------
Sam Smith
Monday update
Total so far: 12,902
Physicals: 8,966 [CD: 8,544 | Vinyl: 263 | Cassettes: 159]
Downloads: 1,859
Streaming: 2,077
Tuesday update
Total so far: 15,768
Physicals: 10,968 [CD: 10,533 | Vinyl: 274 | Cassettes: 161]
Downloads: 2,049
Streaming: 2,751
Monday's sales
Total: +2,866
Physicals: +2,002 [CD: +1,989 | Vinyl: +11 | Cassettes: +2]
Downloads: +190
Streaming: +674
~~~~~~~~~~~
The surprisingly low figures for Sam's vinyl and cassette might suggest that their official store hasn't submitted all of the data yet?
That's also evidence that Ariana's official store sales haven't been counted yet, because there's still 0 cassette sales (and she has three cassette variants).
Posted by: Sixth Sense 4th November 2020, 06:06 AM
Bruce holding up better than I expected.
Posted by: Sour Candy 4th November 2020, 06:23 AM
Monster Mash is not in top 200 on Spotify. Sure it won't stay in top 40.
Posted by: GTH 4th November 2020, 07:27 AM
Feels like Q4 has well and truly started now. Quite glad for this surprise from Ariana making the week interesting.
I think she will get there with how strong streaming is but we will see if Sam’s team can get enough physicals out to make a difference.
Posted by: Bjork 4th November 2020, 08:55 AM
bum I'm confused... is Sam selling vinyls too? cos amazon etc say Nov 15 for the vinyl
Posted by: Steve201 4th November 2020, 05:17 PM
We still have a potential Mariah being denied no1 for a third year in a row in late defmeber to come
Posted by: Steve201 4th November 2020, 05:21 PM
Ari announces that the votes/sales should stop being counted now, the election is over she remains at number one indefinitely
omrimayo starts a legal challenge
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 05:24 PM
Wednesday Top 40 Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data: Spotify and YouTube (both for Tuesday)
Singles
1 Ariana Grande - positions (32.4k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (24.0k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (20.0k)
4 Tate McRae - you broke me first (19.4k)
5 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (18.7k)
6-10
6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
11 Sam Smith - Diamonds
16 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
20 Paul Harvey & BBC Philharmonic - Four Notes - Paul's Tune *
21-30
26 Shawn Mendes - Wonder
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
28 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over
31-40
35 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
38 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
39 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1 Ariana Grande - positions (20.8k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (18.0k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (14.8k) *
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (12.5k)
5 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR (7.0k) *
6-10
6 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council *
7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
11-20
12 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
15 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
16 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
18 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
20 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
21-30
22 Eels - Earth to Dora *
25 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
27 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
29 Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2021
31-40
35 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo *
Posted by: Tefo 4th November 2020, 05:27 PM
Bruce still doing over 2k a day wow
Posted by: Brightest Blue 4th November 2020, 05:30 PM
Omfg Diamonds at 11!!!!!
Posted by: danvember 4th November 2020, 05:30 PM
a classical song going top 20 in 2020 *_* hope he stays there (or at least top 40)
Posted by: Jade 4th November 2020, 05:32 PM
Yay for passing 20k now.
Meanwhile, my 'Confetti' vinyl has now dispatched before my 'positions' physicals have hurry up
Posted by: M4NGO 4th November 2020, 05:35 PM
Ariana's got this, I'm pretty sure Sam isn't gonna catch her now.
Posted by: jlj 4th November 2020, 05:37 PM
Ariana extending her lead looks promising!
I’m more confident now that she’ll take it 
Posted by: Addyablo! 4th November 2020, 05:38 PM
I see Ariana sweeping 30k+ now
Anyone knows Levitating position? Thanks.
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 05:39 PM
No move for Levitating from last Friday
Posted by: Bjork 4th November 2020, 05:39 PM
too bad Sam run out of steam
Posted by: Yog 4th November 2020, 05:40 PM
It’s over for Sam in the albums department , but coming for another top ten..
It’s bittersweet
Posted by: Wall 4th November 2020, 05:41 PM
!!
Posted by: Klumpkin 4th November 2020, 05:46 PM
Shocked Diamonds has gone that high! Seems like it's been a gradual increase on album week so perhaps it could hold up well next week? Would be nice for it to sneak a week top 10. Still a successful era for Sam in the end!
Also Levitating needs to get a move on into the top ten! One of the best tracks in the chart atm and the release strategy is going perfectly so far!
Posted by: chrissmith276 4th November 2020, 05:47 PM
Miley probably pushed out of Top 5 by Pop Smoke again by Friday
Posted by: Steve201 4th November 2020, 05:56 PM
Great to see the top 4 sales being so strong, top 2 easily over 20-25k and Cliff and Bruce looking at 15-20k.
Monster Mash likely to drop out by Friday now
Posted by: Cognizant 4th November 2020, 05:57 PM
If Positions clears 30k by the end of the week, I’m sure her camp would take that as a disappointing result... a near enough 50% drop from Thank U, Next, released just 20 months ago.
I’m an Ariana fan by the way, and have mellowed to the album after some initial resistance. I’m just analysing the stats and 30k in quarter four is for sure disappointing for an artist of her calibre.
All of the above also applies to Sam Smith as well considering The Thrill Of It All opened with close to 100k three years ago, with just one big hit preceding it.
Also, any idea where King Harry is with Golden?
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 05:59 PM
#44 for Harry with 3 Halloween songs above it, hoping it makes it in!
Posted by: Steve201 4th November 2020, 06:00 PM
I think any artist this year will find it hard breaking 50k that Lady Gaga got so you have to place it in context.
Posted by: Cognizant 4th November 2020, 06:03 PM
I mean Bruce did it last week? I would have thought Ariana would have been the artist to knock it out of the park tbh.
Posted by: Steve201 4th November 2020, 06:04 PM
But I guess there was a lot less preorders with the quick release campaign compared to the others. Of the singles are popular maybe it’ll sell well over a few weeks/months.
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 06:05 PM
We can't forget that this Ariana album has had a 1 week build-up. thank u, next had a 3 month build-up, it's really quite different when there's been less time to grab attention. The fact Ariana's on track for ~30k with only one week of hype is impressive, it's only a fraction of the time TUN had!
Posted by: ben08 4th November 2020, 06:05 PM
Any possibility of Bruce overtaking Cliff?
Posted by: Cognizant 4th November 2020, 06:07 PM
I agree with you Joseph but 30k is still disappointing considering Ariana has quite the name now and has hype from her name alone!
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 06:11 PM
30k is a great amount for what is almost entirely name power! 30k exactly would be enough for #1 on all bar 9 weeks of the year so far, so it's actually a really strong total in its own right. TUN had two #1 hits out pre-album (both bigger than positions the song, which has still been big of course), and the sales of TUN are pretty much unmatchable. There's nothing to be disappointed about!
Posted by: SmileyKylie 4th November 2020, 06:11 PM
And a build up to pre order streams? 🤭
Posted by: SmileyKylie 4th November 2020, 06:11 PM
And a build up to pre order streams? 🤭
Posted by: tgl92 4th November 2020, 06:23 PM
I mean is 30k THAT bad for Ariana? Sweetener manager 44k with a lot more promotion and a hit song (I know positions has gone to number 1 but NTLTC was around longer is what I’m saying). I’m also aware thank u, next had 65k (and 3 numbers 1 helped!) but this album was released without hype, it’s a different sound to her more pop albums and is doing just fine. She’s hardly a big album seller anyway and it’s doing better than my everything which also had a number one single to boast.
Disclaimer: I’m a fan and have heard the album
Posted by: Hadji 4th November 2020, 06:27 PM
Hope Meduza can remain top 40
Posted by: Jade 4th November 2020, 06:31 PM
I feel like it’s hard to comment on the success yet without the full picture - there are 0 physical sales from her official store verified at the moment which could be costing thousands of sales usually acts with large fanbases attract significant buys this way - I think Selena Gomez for example only clinched #1 because of them being added at the last minute. Little Mix and Kylie are already looking at strong sales next week because both have gone to town with formats to pre-order on their stores during the past couple of months (good on them!) Two of my sales for Ari are currently in the abyss
Posted by: Lomadz 4th November 2020, 06:45 PM
Ari is doing incredible! Some clueless comments on here. If she wants to release a more pop sounds, she can...that will sell more but this is great. Stop bloody knocking artists when an album isn't to your taste.
Posted by: Brightest Blue 4th November 2020, 06:45 PM
How many physical sales did tun debut with?
Posted by: Andrew. 4th November 2020, 06:49 PM
21k pure sales, some will have been downloads obvs x
I don’t think it has to be black or white whether Ari’s doing well or underperforming. I’d say the album’s performance chart wise, by her standards is...ok. Not good given it’s Q4 and she’s following on from TU,N but not bad at ALL. Obviously!
Posted by: :') 4th November 2020, 06:54 PM
Anybody know if Levitating is still #15? 🙏
Posted by: Klumpkin 4th November 2020, 06:55 PM
I think Joseph said earlier it was a non-mover.
Posted by: Bjork 4th November 2020, 07:02 PM
it's not a flop at all but it's 1000% an underperformance no matter how you try to sell it
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 07:08 PM
If you say so
Posted by: :') 4th November 2020, 07:13 PM
Non mover from Friday so it's #14 then?
Posted by: Klumpkin 4th November 2020, 07:15 PM
this! slowly on it's way to #1
Posted by: dj_tim_e 4th November 2020, 07:19 PM
Oh my god are people STILL arguing over a number 1 album being a flop?! I thought it was Wednesday, not still Monday. I dread to think what next week's thread will be like if Kylie or little mix "only" sell 50,000 each by this time next week...during an English lockdown, when most supermarkets aren't bothering to sell new records anymore.
Posted by: Mart123 4th November 2020, 07:26 PM
I agree this thread has been taken over about if it’s a flop or not . When the best selling first week sales of the year have been 50k plus then anything close is not a flop . Don’t know if anyone noticed but there’s a pandemic on 🤣🤣🤣
Posted by: ts7sfkptm 4th November 2020, 07:30 PM
Sales are disappointing for both *however* not flops in any way, plus Ariana still has website sales to submit.
and I do wish Sam had released the vinyl this week!
Posted by: ts7sfkptm 4th November 2020, 07:31 PM
Yes, it's Joseph's world and we're all living in it
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 4th November 2020, 07:36 PM
Ariana has pulled away now and i think her number 1 is secured.
Posted by: Brightest Blue 4th November 2020, 07:40 PM
Sam is on BBC One tonight.
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 07:43 PM
Honestly this
Posted by: Jay* 4th November 2020, 07:52 PM
They did, the album has sold 321 copies in vinyl format this week so far.
https://store.samsmithworld.com/*/Music/Love-Goes-Vinyl/6P9P0YQS000
Posted by: Brightest Blue 4th November 2020, 07:55 PM
The problem is that the vinyl is so expensive! I’d pay that for an exclusive colour, but black? No thanks
Posted by: Cognizant 4th November 2020, 07:56 PM
He is right. And to be quite frank Joseph, we are allowed to call an album an underperformance if we wish. This is a forum where we are allowed to scrutinise everything.
Sorry but 30k is absolutely disappointing. Ariana Grande had a huge hit this year with Lady Gaga, and a minor one with Justin Bieber. She should be doing 40k minimum, even more in quarter four.
It’s also disappointing to see positive opinions about female artists voiced without any resistance on this forum when if we were talking about a hypothetical underperformance from Lewis Capaldi’s second album, everyone would be more likely to brand it an underperformance off the bat.
FYI Ariana is also underperforming in the States too; Positions is currently projected to do 260k, a drop of 100k from Thank U, Next.
Also we are not branding the album a flop, merely an underperformance, please understand the nuance!
Posted by: T Boy 4th November 2020, 07:58 PM
Where in the thread does anyone deny it’s an underperformance?
Posted by: ts7sfkptm 4th November 2020, 07:59 PM
https://store.samsmithworld.com/*/Music/Love-Goes-Vinyl/6P9P0YQS000
oh, Amazon says it's releasing on the 13th, my bad
Posted by: SmileyKylie 4th November 2020, 08:01 PM
And dare I say it that Ariana has only done the sales she has because her songs are on big playlists made by music influencers 🧐
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 08:06 PM
Sorry but 30k is absolutely disappointing. Ariana Grande had a huge hit this year with Lady Gaga, and a minor one with Justin Bieber. She should be doing 40k minimum, even more in quarter four.
It’s also disappointing to see positive opinions about female artists voiced without any resistance on this forum when if we were talking about a hypothetical underperformance from Lewis Capaldi’s second album, everyone would be more likely to brand it an underperformance off the bat.
FYI Ariana is also underperforming in the States too; Positions is currently projected to do 260k, a drop of 100k from Thank U, Next.
You're allowed to call it an underperformance and I'm allowed to debate otherwise (with facts and context that are seemingly being ignored for the sake of like-for-like comparisons). I don't appreciate being told what can and can't happen - I'm well aware, I've been on this site a long time.
Neither Stuck With U nor Rain On Me are on this album. They were huge hits but the positions era began a week before release. Most artists have months-long build-ups for albums. Ariana had one week, and she's still selling 30k. Is it the biggest success ever? No, but it doesn't need to be. It's still a success. Anyone expecting sales similar to TUN were overestimating from the start, hence why, in my eyes, it's not an underperformance. It's sold less than her previous album but that alone does not make it an underperformance, in my eyes at least. Disagree if you wish.
Just like most albums by popular artists these days. This isn't anything new and it's not really worth pointing out.
Posted by: Wall 4th November 2020, 08:16 PM
Are we finally seeing everybody turning against Joseph 
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 08:17 PM
Just for that, I'm streaming Pop Smoke on repeat
Posted by: Sour Candy 4th November 2020, 08:18 PM
What You Know Bout Love is a bop
Posted by: Wall 4th November 2020, 08:18 PM
What you know about love is a tune 
Stream midnight Sky
Posted by: Gerald 4th November 2020, 08:32 PM
Wow this thread nearly at 20 pages. Looks like this could be a taster of what’s to come with Kylie v Little Mix album battle next week.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 4th November 2020, 08:32 PM
FFS.
As I have already said to you, one particular person has actually said those exact words in this thread multiple times (arguably the person responsible for this argument happening in the first place).
Posted by: ___∆___ 4th November 2020, 08:40 PM
You have to hand it to Lewis Capaldi and his mission for the charts, he released extra signed test pressing CDs for £5 and reduced the cassette to £3.99
Posted by: Cognizant 4th November 2020, 08:42 PM
Neither Stuck With U nor Rain On Me are on this album. They were huge hits but the positions era began a week before release. Most artists have months-long build-ups for albums. Ariana had one week, and she's still selling 30k. Is it the biggest success ever? No, but it doesn't need to be. It's still a success. Anyone expecting sales similar to TUN were overestimating from the start, hence why, in my eyes, it's not an underperformance. It's sold less than her previous album but that alone does not make it an underperformance, in my eyes at least. Disagree if you wish.
Just like most albums by popular artists these days. This isn't anything new and it's not really worth pointing out.
You ‘don’t appreciate being told what can and can’t happen’ yet you continuously clamp down on opinions that differ to your own? The irony! Like others have said, Joseph you do not own this forum, please stop acting like you do.
Im not going to add anymore to the discourse here.
Posted by: 777666jason 4th November 2020, 08:42 PM
Poor monster mash if Halloween was Sunday would of been the first time for a Halloween track top 40 in years
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 08:45 PM
Honestly if you're reacting like that to somebody disagreeing with you then perhaps it's best to log off
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 09:56 PM
Thread re-opened, fresh start for all. Best behaviour everyone please x
Posted by: 777666jason 4th November 2020, 09:58 PM
Oh I wanted to make a joke that no ariana fan came out with the obvious come back
THANK YOU NEXT,
Are LM rebounding or still at 16
Posted by: Tefo 4th November 2020, 10:20 PM
Honestly, with what's happening here this week I've already had enough of Kylie vs LM battle
Posted by: Mart!n 4th November 2020, 10:23 PM
I'm thinking of bailing out
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 10:52 PM
A reminder to be kind. Posts that are not kind will be deleted and if necessary the thread will be locked.
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th November 2020, 11:07 PM
And the thread is now locked until the next midweek update.
Posted by: Jay* 4th November 2020, 11:43 PM
(Only temporarily unlocking to share this)
Ariana Grande
Wednesday update
Total so far: 20,819
Physicals: 6,374 [CD: 5,362 | Cassettes: 1,012]
Downloads: 1,958
Streaming: 12,487
Tuesday's sales
Total: +4,477
Physicals: +2,141 [CD: +1,129 | Cassettes: +1,012]
Downloads: +56
Streaming: +2,280
--------------------
Sam Smith
Wednesday update
Total so far: 18,043
Physicals: 12,386 [CD: 11,896 | Vinyl: 321 | Cassettes: 169]
Downloads: 2,215
Streaming: 3,442
Tuesday's sales
Total: +2,275
Physicals: +1,418 [CD: +1,363 | Vinyl: +47 | Cassettes: +8]
Downloads: +166
Streaming: +691
Posted by: JosephStyles 5th November 2020, 04:40 PM
Thursday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Spotify and YouTube (both for Wednesday)
Singles
1 Ariana Grande - positions (39.1k)
2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (29.4k)
3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (24.4k)
4 Tate McRae - you broke me first (23.6k)
5 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love (22.7k)
6-10
6 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky
9 Ariana Grande - 34+35 *
11-20
11 Sam Smith - Diamonds
16 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive *
21-30
22 Paul Harvey & BBC Philharmonic - Four Notes - Paul's Tune *
25 Shawn Mendes - Wonder
27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded *
31-40
36 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise *
40 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Albums
1 Ariana Grande - positions (23.3k) *
2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (20.0k) *
3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (16.4k) *
4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (14.3k)
5 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR (7.8k) *
6-10
6 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council *
7 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA *
8 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands *
10 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition *
11-20
12 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF *
15 Wizkid - Made In Lagos *
16 Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia
17 Elton John - Diamonds
19 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^
20 Camelphat - Dark Matter *
21-30
24 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien *
25 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 *
28 Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2021
29 Eels - Earth to Dora *
31-40
32 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface *
Posted by: spiceboy 5th November 2020, 04:51 PM
Ariana's definitely pulling away now, she has this in the bag. I'm really impressed that Sam is so close to her shame they didn't try to push the sales more.
Posted by: Jade 5th November 2020, 04:53 PM
Good to see Ariana extending her lead at #1 once more in singles and albums - looks like the remaining physicals from her store (as I noticed the cassettes jumped from 0 to +1000 yesterday, so some already must have been counted) dispatched today thanks to anecdotal evidence on here, so that should top up her tally nicely for the final numbers. Hope '34+35' can stay at 9 as that would be a unique peak in the top 10 - she's had a lot of #8s and a #10 already with 'Focus'.
Posted by: Hadji 5th November 2020, 04:55 PM
Looks like Meduza could be going top 40 tomorrow
Posted by: Maestro 5th November 2020, 05:00 PM
Wow at the BBC song being that high. Is Perfect finally gonna drop out this week, or is it gonna sneak back in the top 100?
Posted by: Nick Jonas 5th November 2020, 05:07 PM
How dare you etc etc
Posted by: 777666jason 5th November 2020, 05:23 PM
Aww such a shame Halloween was Saturday did not expect monster mash to hold on so long
Posted by: Jason 5th November 2020, 05:24 PM
Yasss Meduza look safe for top 40 tomorrow.
Is Golden at #41?
Posted by: Cognizant 5th November 2020, 05:32 PM
Poor sales for Ariana.. might not even clear 30k. Without wanting to get attacked, this is a huge disappointment. The same goes for Samuel.
Posted by: Mart!n 5th November 2020, 05:37 PM
You answered your own question
Posted by: JamesW 5th November 2020, 06:06 PM
Are Little Mix still top 20?
Posted by: JosephStyles 5th November 2020, 06:18 PM
#13!
Posted by: Everton 5th November 2020, 06:18 PM
Is all I want Christmas is you any where top 100
Posted by: miichaelking21 5th November 2020, 06:18 PM
Sweet Melody holding up really well! Hopefully it’ll climb to a new peak with the album release
Posted by: JosephStyles 5th November 2020, 06:28 PM
No but it'd be #54 if it wasn't on arbitrary ACR
Posted by: b 5th November 2020, 06:31 PM
all i want for christmas is ariana grande to have sold 50k+ in her first week x
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 5th November 2020, 06:51 PM
I never expected Cliff Richard to be as near as he is to Ariana and Sams sales.
Posted by: Adelita 5th November 2020, 06:53 PM
Ariana will debut with ~27k, a 60% drop compared to TUN... 
Posted by: Mart!n 5th November 2020, 07:22 PM
Firstly, I just have to say, thanks to all the chart mods and Joseph Styles for their hard work in the chart forum, in the preparation of sales (myself), chart information and all behind the scenes work towards the Friday Chart Show thread every week, a lot of preparation goes into that every week.
If any of your requests don’t get answered its because they are hardly moving in the chart or lingering in the top 75 which sometimes feels its not really necessary, especially requests on a Thursday, when the chart is revealed the following day in full, it doesn’t hurt to wait a day to find that final position. Also bear in mind we are not obligated to give out additional info on Tuesdays and Thursdays as its not available in public view.
Secondly, it is difficult in our current situation, members use Buzzjack as a means of escape and communicate with our existing community it’s about having fun. After reading this week’s latest FCP thread, think of what some members are going through (they could be going through anxiety issues, depression etc etc), you do not need to troll, throw flying insults or have personal attacks at each other it doesn’t make good reading or inviting guests to register with us, and any actions by chart mods or Admins should be observed. Just take a step back and log off for 30 minutes or so.
And finally, next week it’s another chart battle in the albums with Kylie and Little Mix, so try and be patient when asking for requests, they will be given out when available. Any trolling, flying insults, personal attacks will be removed without hesitation at chart moderator’s indiscretion.
Posted by: Wall 5th November 2020, 07:30 PM
Camelphat deserved better.
Very disappointing sales for both Ariana and Sam tbh
Posted by: SmileyKylie 5th November 2020, 07:53 PM
Just going to say it....
Cliff Richard deserves the number 1 spot in the album chart
Fans have bought his album to listen to him and enjoy him .
Ariana passive Spotify playlist fans make up a lot of her sales let's be honest....
Just my view.
Posted by: Cognizant 5th November 2020, 07:59 PM
Yikes.
Posted by: b 5th November 2020, 08:04 PM
missing data hun
Posted by: Hallucinate 5th November 2020, 08:24 PM
To think some thought Ariana might stop Kylie and Little Mix in her second week!
Sales in general are beyond awful though.
Posted by: krissykins 5th November 2020, 10:06 PM
Little Mix being 13 is fab. Hopefully it increases soon.
Posted by: spiceboy 5th November 2020, 10:20 PM
Arrggh I was being so careful when writing it trying to use Sam rather than he/she/they as I always stumble on it! Thanks for pointing it out have edited it.
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