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post May 20 2019, 06:54 AM
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Voting against a particular country is easy. You just vote for someone else.
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post May 20 2019, 07:35 AM
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Which is incredibly ineffective. So ineffective that you'd need a public boycott campaign which would just have the countereffect of drawing more support for the superstar to even have a chance of it working.

If the people who think they're voting negatively choose a random song, then their votes are spread out and the fans vote will carry the superstar, making precisely no difference. If they unite together behind one song solely to stop a song, if they ARE in great enough numbers, then they can push the offending song down... one place. In one set of votes.

If you use your vote to vote against someone else, it's 1/24th as effective as any positive vote for them. We send a big star on that level then no negative 'cheating' campaign is going to stop us getting on that left side, and that's not even factoring in the juries who'd probably fall over themselves to show it.
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post May 20 2019, 12:25 PM
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No, all people need to do is disregard the UK song and vote for their favourite from the rest.

Somebody elsewhere said the the last few Italian performers were of a similar status in Italy to the likes of George Ezra and Dua Lipa here. They are probably more like the sort of act we should be looking at. I was talking to somebody this morning who suggested Jarvis Cocker. He could probably come up with something that slightly pokes fun at Eurovision but without taking it too far.
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Somebody elsewhere said the the last few Italian performers were of a similar status in Italy to the likes of George Ezra and Dua Lipa here. They are probably more like the sort of act we should be looking at. I was talking to somebody this morning who suggested Jarvis Cocker. He could probably come up with something that slightly pokes fun at Eurovision but without taking it too far.

The interesting thing with Italy is that Eurovision doesn't have the best rep over there, but their selection Sanremo is one of the biggest TV events (the prize isn't necessarily representing Italy at Eurovision but the winner gets the *right* to and can turn it down) so a lot of big artists enter. Although they had one of their biggest female artists in 2014 and she bombed, giving them I believe their worst result, at least their worst for a long while laugh.gif

Actually a lot of countries have similarly successful artists competing for them, for example the Albanian artist is absolutely huge in Albania on TV and in music, she's one of the most famous women in Albania I believe.

Italy do quite well at getting big names in their NF, and obviously Sweden, plus Australia have each year sent a fair sized name (Guy Sebastian being the biggest male of the 21st century and Jessica Mauboy is pretty much the biggest local female act (or was until a couple of years ago) bar the ones who've broken out internationally like Kylie/Sia), it is just baffling when you see that kind of artist doing it for other countries and yet the best we've had of late is someone known for being robbed by Jedward on X Factor laugh.gif

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As said above, what I don't get is that we've had so many artists saying they'd do it, and yet STILL we just make do with Michael bloody Rice laugh.gif I mean nobody is expecting Adele or Ed Sheeran but Hurts for example have always said they'd do it, and I'm sure at least somebody like Paloma Faith or Jessie J would do it! I agree, just having an actual ARTIST rather than a singer would help so much.
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post May 20 2019, 06:59 PM
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I've said many times before that turning down Hurts was a terrible decision.
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post May 20 2019, 08:01 PM
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The Hurts ship has sailed. Still surprised we didn’t send The Flood by Katie Melua as rumoured at the time either.

I could see Måns Zelmerlöw doing it for us in the 2020s weirdly.
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post May 20 2019, 08:37 PM
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Can we just send Lily Allen please?
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