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 11th January 2020, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 11 2020, 05:43 AM)  What am I, a member of the CIA?  So you don't know you just put faith in the US... |
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11th January 2020, 11:00 AM
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 Break the tension
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Just heartbreaking.
 Still, at least it's comforting to know that they're upgrading their systems to prevent such "errors" occurring in the future. 
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11th January 2020, 11:15 AM
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 I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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Their deaths are on Trump's hands. Directly Iran's, and they share some responsibility, but it was Trump who sent everyone into this heightened state of readiness with an unnecessarily provocative act. And the worst thing is his administration knows they got away with assassination.
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11th January 2020, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jan 11 2020, 11:15 AM) Their deaths are on Trump's hands. Directly Iran's, and they share some responsibility, but it was Trump who sent everyone into this heightened state of readiness with an unnecessarily provocative act. And the worst thing is his administration knows they got away with assassination. I agree but I bet knowing what he does now he'd do exactly the same again and get rid of that evil terrorist. |
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11th January 2020, 02:26 PM
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Did you know who he was before the media started screaming, "the no.1 bad guy in the world is dead!!!"?
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11th January 2020, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(ChRiMbO LeG PiPe @ Jan 11 2020, 02:26 PM) Did you know who he was before the media started screaming, "the no.1 bad guy in the world is dead!!!"? Yes of course I did.  Did you?
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11th January 2020, 02:55 PM
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Did you? You never mentioned him once...
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11th January 2020, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(ChRiMbO LeG PiPe @ Jan 11 2020, 02:55 PM) Did you? You never mentioned him once... I didn't need to. 
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11th January 2020, 03:04 PM
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It's not a surprise that Iran finally admitted their responsibility, the US and other western powers had irrefutable evidence and had given Iran a ladder to climb down in order to not further raise tensions. It is clear that the ratcheting up in tensions between the two states played a part in this tragedy, and we still have no good strategy coming to light, nor a reason for the assassination of Qasem Soleimani (Who lets not forget was part of the US-led coalition fighting against Islamic State), which seems to so far have strengthened the resolve and support of IS-backed militia and cement Soleimani as a martyr.
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11th January 2020, 04:35 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Essentially anyone defending Trump is saying that the 500 innocent civilian deaths on the plane were worth it to kill Soleimani.
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12th January 2020, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 11 2020, 02:09 PM) I agree but I bet knowing what he does now he'd do exactly the same again and get rid of that evil terrorist. Some would argue Trump is just as bad...is he a terrorist too? |
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12th January 2020, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 11 2020, 02:55 PM) Yes of course I did. Did you?I'm sure you did.... |
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12th January 2020, 05:49 AM
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QUOTE(ChRiMbO LeG PiPe @ Jan 11 2020, 02:26 PM) Did you know who he was before the media started screaming, "the no.1 bad guy in the world is dead!!!"? Did *anyone* here? I certainly didn't. |
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12th January 2020, 08:17 AM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 12 2020, 03:40 AM) Some would argue Trump is just as bad...is he a terrorist too? He matches the literal definition so go figure. |
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12th January 2020, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(Jüpiter👑 @ Jan 11 2020, 04:35 PM) Essentially anyone defending Trump is saying that the 500 innocent civilian deaths on the plane were worth it to kill Soleimani. It was a very unfortunate accident which probably wouldn't have happened had Trump not killed the general. There are always casualties of war though and before you say there's no war, America is at war with terrorism. |
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12th January 2020, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 12 2020, 08:47 AM) It was a very unfortunate accident which probably wouldn't have happened had Trump not killed the general. There are always casualties of war though and before you say there's no war, America is at war with terrorism. And the terrorists certainly claim to be at war with the West! |
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12th January 2020, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 12 2020, 08:58 AM) And the terrorists certainly claim to be at war with the West! Yes you're right Vid. They keep saying so! |
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12th January 2020, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 12 2020, 05:49 AM) Did *anyone* here? I certainly didn't. Exactly! |
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12th January 2020, 10:50 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 12 2020, 08:47 AM) It was a very unfortunate accident which probably wouldn't have happened had Trump not killed the general. There are always casualties of war though and before you say there's no war, America is at war with terrorism. I would argue that the us and Britain are as bad and could be considered terrorists too. Meaning of terrorism: "referring to nations whose rule is based upon fear and oppression that reach similar to terrorism or such proportions". It may be referred to as Structural Terrorism defined broadly as terrorist acts carried out by governments in pursuit of political objectives, often as part of their foreign policy." |
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12th January 2020, 10:57 AM
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I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 12 2020, 08:47 AM) It was a very unfortunate accident which probably wouldn't have happened had Trump not killed the general. There are always casualties of war though and before you say there's no war, America is at war with terrorism. The War on Terror is a propaganda name. You can't have a war against something with no defined end. Americans are involved in military conflicts in the Middle East but they aren't helping them end. Wouldn't be profitable. More pertinently, Iran is not a terrorist state. There aren't currently any terrorist state groups (depending on def of 'terrorist') holding land since the defeat of ISIL. Insurgents are frightening and certainly capable of inflicting harm, but they are rare. There are protests and actually calls for the Iranian Supreme Leader to resign over this. Would be nice if he did, but I'm not holding my breath. Same goes for his American counterpart. |
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