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10th December 2019, 10:07 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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10th December 2019, 10:35 AM
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Paul Hyett
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10th December 2019, 12:46 PM
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10th December 2019, 02:13 PM
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Read what I said. Are you seriously suggesting every Lib Dem MP in the 1940s to the 2000s seriously thought they would be a minister? I meant WANTED to be a minister, aspired to become one though. Obviously if their party never gets in to government they can't. |
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10th December 2019, 05:06 PM
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10th December 2019, 05:55 PM
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12th December 2019, 07:37 AM
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Paul Hyett
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It's not just the LD's...
Just having a last look at the election leaflets, and I noticed that the Green Party one quoted a Tewkesbury Borough Council result for *one* ward, with them winning on just 34% of the vote, using this to try and justify the claim 'we can win in Tewkesbury' despite getting just 2.7% in the GE last time. |
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12th December 2019, 08:09 AM
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It's not just the LD's... Just having a last look at the election leaflets, and I noticed that the Green Party one quoted a Tewkesbury Borough Council result for *one* ward, with them winning on just 34% of the vote, using this to try and justify the claim 'we can win in Tewkesbury' despite getting just 2.7% in the GE last time. All parties have done it. Some of the bar charts are more valid than others. Bar charts are a perfectly good way of illustrating a point; it’s a pity they have been abused so much that many people will now ignore even the more legitimate ones. |
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12th December 2019, 11:28 AM
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And 88% od the Tory facebook ads are lies. Facebook was so concerned with the volume, they took some down and google did the same! Zuckerberg's fault for allowing it to happen to protect the right wing tax-lenient govs and take away one of the left's greatest platforms, forcing people back to the right wing neolib media. I say that's far worse than a couple of leaflet fibs.
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8th January 2020, 07:23 AM
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They just don't give up...
Lib Dems to push for a public inquiry into the EU referendum and Brexit https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-storie...rexit-1-6452000 ************************* Yes, they have a job to do in the HoC, but in their feeble position, it just looks like sour grapes. This post has been edited by vidcapper: 8th January 2020, 07:26 AM |
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8th January 2020, 07:55 AM
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Of course it's sour grapes. They'll try anything to stop Brexit.
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8th January 2020, 08:08 AM
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They just don't give up... Lib Dems to push for a public inquiry into the EU referendum and Brexit https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-storie...rexit-1-6452000 ************************* Yes, they have a job to do in the HoC, but in their feeble position, it just looks like sour grapes. There remains plenty of evidence that the Leave campaign broke the law and that there was foreign interference. If you disagree, why are you so worried about the prospect of a thorough investigation? |
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8th January 2020, 08:21 AM
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There remains plenty of evidence that the Leave campaign broke the law and that there was foreign interference. If you disagree, why are you so worried about the prospect of a thorough investigation? Personally I don't mind either way, but with Boris's HoC majority, there's not a snowball in hell's chance of the LD's amendments passing. |
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8th January 2020, 04:19 PM
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Personally I don't mind either way, but with Boris's HoC majority, there's not a snowball in hell's chance of the LD's amendments passing. So the two so-called democracies where it is particularly difficult to hold the government to account for potential breaches of the law are the UK and the US. It is, of course, no coincidence that both countries use FPTP. |
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9th January 2020, 05:47 AM
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So the two so-called democracies where it is particularly difficult to hold the government to account for potential breaches of the law are the UK and the US. It is, of course, no coincidence that both countries use FPTP. Surely that's better than the stagnation of a hung parliament, though? |
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9th January 2020, 08:14 AM
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9th January 2020, 09:15 AM
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9th January 2020, 09:28 AM
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9th January 2020, 10:08 AM
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Paul Hyett
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FFS, what has the EU got to do with anything? In most cases, the opposite is true. Belgium was able to go without a government for a year because so much power is devolved downwards. IMO the threat to sovereignty is why a lot of people voted for Brexit in the first place. Unlike you, we don't believe the unquantified 'benefits' outweigh the drawbacks. |
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9th January 2020, 10:13 AM
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IMO the threat to sovereignty is why a lot of people voted for Brexit in the first place. Unlike you, we don't believe the unquantified 'benefits' outweigh the drawbacks. Wrong. Many of us simply don't buy the "threat to sovereignty" argument. The existence of a veto renders that argument nonsense. |
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