Posted by: WhoChristmassy 28th December 2019, 01:31 AM
Yes 
Hayley Williams has announced a new non-Paramore project that we will first hear from in January, I'm excited!
Why she needs to cross it out? Just a style?
Yes
Just came here to post this v topic but you beat me to it! 
I'm v hyped, idk what to expect really, maybe something v indie or even acoustic? I imagine Taylor and Zac will have helped produce it but if that's the case I wonder why Hayley is releasing it as a solo project rather than as some Paramore stuff?
Hayley ❤️
Not sure what to expect from this being a solo Hayley Williams project rather than Paramore but excited nonetheless!!
I'm very interested.
Looks like it's called 'Petals For Armor' - she shared a post from it to her Instagram story last night.
http://petalsforarmor.com/
https://www.instagram.com/petalsforarmor
I saw fans work out that was the title ages ago, people are good at this detective stuff huh?! I love the name though and the fact you can spell out Paramore from the letters as well
So incredibly hyped
Something coming on the 22nd! (Most likely the single I'd imagine)
I'm gonna cry
I'm looking forward to reading all the speculation over the next 2 weeks!
First single is titled 'Simmer'.
Omg Mahalia cover come thru x
eeeeeeeeeeeek
Excited! I hope the song and video are great.
There's people saying she's releasing it under her own name because of the insta caption she put "Simmer by Hayley Williams" so there's now doubt about what Petals For Armor actually is, perhaps it's an album/ep title instead??
Yeah I'm not sure yet! I'll change the title accordingly when we find out.
I hope it's under Hayley as the name recognition will help it out.
It will be a shame if she drops 'of paramore' from it though which she usually has on solo project iirc, but then Paramore can be spelled from the letters in Petals For Armor so I guess in a way it's still there even if it's the album name or whatever :')
FYI, this is the link of the single which should properly work tomorrow and it's basically under Hayley's name and not under Petals For Armor.
http://hayleywilliams.lnk.to/simmer
I'm hoping it will be up at midnight if it's being released everywhere then ?
Colour me excited for this! I hope it's really good!
I didn't think she'd do a whole US midnight time thing, usually it's the really really big artists who do that but I guess it could just be at some point in the daytime too like on Beats1 or sth
I have a feeling it's going to be really poppy or really heavy - I'd be happy with either!
In expecting something along the indie/acoustic lines
Video premieres at 19:30 tomorrow! (which also confirms it's being released as Hayley Williams - as well as being on a new YouTube channel for her).
'Simmer' has been written by Hayley, Taylor York (of Paramore!) and Joey Howard - and has been produced by Taylor.
Even more bizarre that they're not releasing it under the Paramore name when it's basically a Paramore song with Taylor and Joey's input!
I see both Brian and Lindsey have worked on the video as well 
Legit but I wouldn't be surprised if he did drum on the track
Was there not something about Paramore not being under FBR anymore? I vaguely remember something about that... Hayley has always been signed to Atlantic as a soloist for some reason so maybe that's why this is being put out under her name rather than paramore's? 
Yeah I've heard a lot about that, but haven't found any actual confirmation yet
No me either, it still says they're signed to FBR on their Wikipedia etc, I think the only clue that they weren't was their songs were moved onto their own yt channel I think
Hayley is on Annie Mac's show tonight! Hopefully there will be lots of details on the project there.
(and I hope it means Radio 1 will playlist it!)
I split my break at work just so I could listen!! ITS SOOOOO GOOD! 
It's like synthy indie pop and I am soooooo here for all of it
The production is fantastic — sparse, moody, and great vocal inflections throughout. I'm not sure what I expected but I like this.
Album titled "Petals For Amour" is releasing on May 8th!
Simmer is decent, but a bit dull. I'd rather have new Paramore music as I don't think I'll be coming back to this one much.
Still, I'm interested in the album.
Genuinely love this more with each listen, the video is stunning too
one of hayley's best vocal turnouts 
the production is great too. it'll be a grower but yes i'm really liking this direction.
I'm not 100% sold, her vocal is amazing (but you could say that for anything she sings) but idk I just wanted more 
It's probs a grower.
This is very different to what I expected from her. I like it, her voice is great. Looking forward to the album coming out.
I am immersed by how dark it sounds, I wonder if the rest of the album will be like this because I low key hope so as Simmer is amazing
Simmer has actually grown on me a lot after listening to it a few more times, the fantastic production on it particularly stands out!
"Simmer" is fantastic and the video is really good. I hope the album will be just as good.
I think this definitely sets the tone for the rest of the album, you can tell she wrote it whilst in a dark place so I'm sure the other songs will have the same sort of themes, it's kinda nice to have angsty Hayley back but showing that in a completely different way from how we've seen it come out in Paramore music
Obviously Simmer is about her dealing with her feelings of anger etc over what Chad Gilbert (her ex husband) did to her but apparently he was reposting New Found Glory fans doing some Instagram filter thing to his story but two of them were listening to Simmer in the background and it had the "and if my child needed protection from a f***er like that man, I'd sooner gut him 'cause nothing cuts like a mother" line in it
I quite like NFG, and knew Chad and Hayley dated for a long time before marrying but didn't realise why they broke up
Yea I think he cheated on her but he's already engaged to someone else, he was married to someone before Hayley as well and I think the reason the split was bc of him cheating too but who knows for sure I guess 
I like this, it’s a grower for sure but it’s getting there. I (like most others tbh) would prefer new Paramore material but this will is perfectly fine until then
Apparently we're getting new Paramore stuff once Hayley is finished with this project but who knows when that'll be
I really quite like this on first listen actually, if it's a grower then I'll end up loving it. I don't tend to take much notice on first listens so this is promising.
Oh my god this is woeful!
Bring back Paramour!!
Why do we need yet another female singer singing across some cheap drum beat machine production with a strained voice? The pop music just really brings out her vocal weakness. The lyrics are trite too. It's not as bad as one of the worst ever songs, Are You Going To Stay The Night?! Woahahao Why You Gonna Stay The Night? but it's along those lines. Really bad. She needs to go back to the band.
oh love it, and I don't even like Paramore
Wasn't exactly sure what to expect from this on first listen but I am liking it, think it'll be a grower as well! Is that her humming in the background throughout or just an instrumental sound that kind of sounds like it x it sounds good anyway, it's reminding me a little bit of Lorde's 'Yellow Flicker Beat'.
I think it's her humming but I'm not sure, just a guess based on how they turned her breathing into a rhythmic part too so that would make sense tbf
her vocals are stunning, and that's a really creative beat. that breathing and the good production definitely makes it stand out it a lovely way.
Well this was unexpected!
Perhaps another song to follow soon?
She's gonna f*** us all up at this rate
I love how dark and artsy this all is!
'Leave It Alone' is out now!!
liking the subdued vibe, very imogen heap!
Already growing to really love 'Simmer' now and 'Leave It Alone' is sounding great on first listen too, consider me excited for this album! She's really nailing the ~atmosphere~ on these singles.
Hayley is in the live lounge tomorrow!
It's today, she's on in a minute
She's doing Don't Start Now as her cover!!!
Oops just saw that sorry for getting it wrong!
Looking forward to listening later 
The artwork isn't what I was hoping it be, ngl I expected it to be petal themed but it's good.
Also that dua lips cover is a beaut
I love the cover mainly bc she's turned something that's a constant reminder of a hurtful time into literal art. The squares on her fingers are cover ups of her ex husband's initials so it's a bold move from her to make that the focal point of her album art, I also love that the photograph is really raw, she has no makeup on etc it's all v symbolic of what petals for armor is about - it's well seen Lindsey Byrnes took it as she is such a talented photographer
'Petals For Armor I' EP is out now!
1. Simmer
2. Leave It Alone
3. Cinnamon
4. Creepin'
5. Sudden Desire
Interesting that we have 5 tracks out already - wonder if they will all be on the album?
This is SO GOOD!!! I wasn't sure at first but damn when it kicks in!!!!
Omg the whole ep?! I imagine the album will be a separate release, similar to what pvris are doing
SUDDEN DESIRE HAS KILLED ME
i just CANNOT at 2/3rd of iamamiwhoami's body of work (kin and bounty) being video inspirations for this. it doesn't seem coincidental at all because I can count at least FIVE videos that had scenes pretty much copied from there just in Cinnamon and Simmer! it's kinda embarrassing. why did they think an artist with such a huge cult following wouldn't notice that?
the queen has spoken. PERIOD.
sure jan
i can believe she didn't know about Jonna personally but the similarities are too big to argue really. whoever thought of the idea for the videos must've seen her work before, I'm SO sure.
The similarities (at least the ones I've seen highlighted on twitter) are a stretch though like filming in minimalistic houses or forests, using imagery from nature etc they're pretty generic especially for low budget music videos etc. I think Hayley is genuine in what she said in her video and if you know the backstory behind this body of work and how it came about it makes no sense for any of it to have been plagiarised :/ I think if there was any truth in ionna's claims she could have delt with it privately and professionally rather than stooping to twitter to put out an indirect tweet, it'll have gotten her a bit of attention though.
Mainstream artists do it ALL the time and always claim they don’t do this shit even though it’s obviously not true. They will always get away with it too just because it’s the numbers game and artists like Jonna don’t have the same reach and resources. I think that calling out plagiarism publicly like this makes the playing field a bit more leveled as the label’s private response would’ve certainly been either silence or “lol bitch Who r u again? Talk to us when you have a million insta followers”.
I can’t at most of Paramore loons on twitter claiming she didn’t do shit having never even seen the videos being referred to........ :|
Also it doesn’t mean there was no plagiarism if there’s a certain special meaning behind each story - you can put whatever spin on anything and work a particular scene into your narrative. Jonna always has meaning behind everything too (surprise surprise!) and each video is part of the story.
but yea Paramore are huge in their scene and have made a name for themselves, of course I realise Hayley is known not just within the Paramore fanbase but she's done collaborations before, I'm sure most people know her as paramore's front woman at least even if they don't know their music etc so I'm not saying her and jonna are on the same level at all. I said it myself, I didn't know who jonna was even as is the case with a lot of people unless they follow iamamiwhoami, I imagine. A version of Simmer with Caroline Polacheck is reportedly coming on Friday
cannot wait for more ionna inspired videos in the next batch x
Give it a rest pavel, you're getting boring now
I know she's got other artists involved with the album too which is exciting! I love Caroline as well so I'm looking forward to whatever she's done with simmer
Hayley also confirmed that a song 'Roses/Lotus/Violet/Iris' on the album will feature Boygenius! (the project of Lucy Dacus, Phoebe Bridgers and Julien Baker).
the song with Boygenius
was just about to post this! it's not bad but it's not hit me from the first listen, her vocals towards the end of it though >>>
I wasn't feeling anything from this project so far (I'm a Paramore fan so I didn't like that this was the case) but 'Roses/Lotus/Violet/Iris' is the first one to click with me yay!
This has grown on me so much
'Over Yet' is out today!
Over Yet is by FAR my favourite of this project. So good <3
Is this an official 2nd single?
Easily my favourite so far!
It reminds me of '5 Colours in Her Hair' by McFly at the start
I've been enjoying nearly everything I've heard from her solo stuff so far - I thought 'Roses/Lotus/Violet/Iris' was kind of just more of the same as the singles from the 'Petals For Armor I' EP (really liked it and all but not quite as much as 'Simmer' and 'Leave It Alone') but 'Over Yet' is a welcome switchup, much more upbeat! Almost has a bit of a HAIM flavour to it.
'My Friend' is out at 5pm BST!
Workout with Hayley Williams!
I love her
'Over Yet' has been creeping up on me more and more, new favourite of the era I get the HAIM comparison, specifically to 'If I Could Change Your Mind'.
'Why We Ever' released today - looks like we're getting this song by song
Over Yet is very quickly becoming a favourite from here! Eagerly awaiting this album *.*
With 'Dead Horse' out now, PFA Vol. II is now complete - I think this may be my favourite song from it.
The whole album is out now, it's laid out as 3 discs on Spotify with PFA1 being Disc 1 and PFA2 being Disc 2, then 5 new songs are on Disc 3. It's a strange way to release an album releasing 10/15 songs before it's out though That said this is a really strong album, I'd say Pure Love is my favourite from the new bunch but that could easily change
If this had just stopped after the first two EPs it'd have been pretty close to an all killer no filler 10 track album (the only songs among those first 10 that I wasn't super sold on were 'Cinnamon', 'Creepin'' and 'My Friend', and the latter two are both sounding better than I remember now when listening through the album in full). As it were, listening to this almost felt like I was just listening to a deluxe version of that 10 track album with a bunch of throwaway cuts tagged on the end, the only one of the five new songs that comes close to the quality of the rest for me is 'Sugar On The Rim' which was a bit of an unexpected bop (sounds a bit sonically out of place with most of the rest of the album, randomly straying into camp dance bop territory, but I'll take it). The other 4 new songs are all ok but I don't really feel any need to go back to any of them.
Still, there are plenty of great songs on here so I can't really complain too much, just a bit of a shame that the ultra drawn out release strategy kind of killed a lot of the anticipation for the official album release and then it ultimately didn't really feel worth it when getting to the new songs at the end. Maybe I'd have been more receptive to the new songs if she just continued with the dripfeeding so I'd then be paying more individual attention to each song? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Disc 2 > Disc 1 > Disc 3 x (and 'Over Yet' is easily my fave song from the album overall, followed by 'Simmer', 'Roses/Lotus/Violet/Iris' and 'Leave It Alone' <3)
Music video for Dead Horse;
There are a few moments on this album where you think "oh okay, yeah I can imagine this being on After Laughter" but then there's Sugar On The Rim that just throws all expectations out the window! I like it but wow what a shockHad a listen to this on Friday, I was disappointed - not because it was bad, but because it went totally over my head. When I first heard "Simmer" I was impressed, but after a few weeks I started feeling irritated whenever it shuffled on, and nothing else has stuck. The album bored me to no end. I might give it another shot over the coming week because I'm surprised that this is how I felt.
I loved this more than I expected, wasn't hugely taken by a lot of the songs on their own as they were released but as a whole I like the 3 part concept, there's a distinct feeling to each part that you move through with the album. Sudden Desire, Pure Love, Over Yet and Sugar On The Rim are the highlights for me!
I still need to check out the whole thing but I'm obsessed with 'Sugar On The Rim' after being recommended it.
Loving this new Hot Chip remix of Dead Horse!
I picked 'Pure Love' as my current single from the album as I thought they'd given up on any new release, one of my favs!
"Petals For Armor: Self-Serenades" EP is out on December 18th with acoustic versions of 'Simmer' and 'Why We Ever', with a new song 'Find Me Here'! There's a vinyl release, and it's also confirmed to be on streaming.
Acoustic version of Simmer out today:
she released a Tiny Desk concert including the fabulous Julien Baker as a band member <3
Been listening to this album a lot this year even when the singles dried up!
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