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Posted by: Liаm 21st June 2016, 10:27 PM

Welcome all to the final of BJSC 85, coming to you live from Castenellia City in the heart of Unovia! Congralutions to our 40 qualifiers from the semi stage, as well as our auto-qualifier FARC, who of course won last month's contest with Salt Ashes' Save It. One of these 41 songs below will become the 85th winner of our grand contest - but who will it be? That's all up to you...

To help decide the winner, simply http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?act=Msg&CODE=4&MID=10139 (Liam) using the usual scoring system for a big final - 18/15/13/12/11/10/9/8/7/6/5/4/3/2/1. Of course, you can vote for any of the 41 below but NOT yourself! You have until 11:59pm Tuesday 28th June, with results to follow the evening of Wednesday 29th June. Any participant who does not vote by the end of the deadline will receive both a 33% deduction from their points total and a ban from the next contest, so don't let that be you!

When you have voted, you will see your country turn RED, or your country will be listed below the entry list if you were a DNQ.

Without further ado, get voting!

01 #00274E // Infinity Ink (ft. Yasmin) // How Do I Love You https://youtu.be/G0VrHmhjSzk
02 Cor Lupus // JR JR // Gone (Robert DeLong Remix) https://youtu.be/25n_zH_UYpg
03 Danaelanda // Croatia Squad & Lika Morgan // Make Your Move https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7WGlJlHMU
04 New Lexico // Celtic Woman (ft. Oonagh) // Tír na nÓg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mabaKE-xNUo
05 Taahino // Beautiful Bodies // Capture & Release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbVWkUcCOU
06 Seyetana // trippple nippples // LSDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42NBoYxr7o
07 Persephonia // Color Guard // In Your Boneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8q64ZcfS7M
08 Cumulonimibia // KAYTRANDA // Lite Spotshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnou4zthz4
09 Syndare // Kwamie Liv // Higher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLwV_FSeAI
10 Trifoski // Lemon Demon // Touch-Tone Telephone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8sbG3L6Xug
11 Quintessa // Elektra // I Don't Do Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxAvsYrHOmI
12 Summericia // Invader Girl // Stuck On You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N-xtpb2CAE
13 Jadakissina // OVERWERK // Toccata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCnJAMkETiU
14 Beaverdonia // Bang La Decks // Aide https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwxb9s9GjY
15 Yehesi // Nightcall (ft. Dreamhour) // Dead V (Vocal Version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsd8EjJfKV0
16 Botanikka // LP // Lost On You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjeBNv6ip0
17 Hushkanukia // Kristina Si - Kosmos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzG9sr2Amik
18 Land Of DW // Antti Tuisku // Pyydä Multa Anteeks Kunnolla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w7mg2RvZ_w
19 Kluminican Republic // Billie Eilish // Ocean Eyes (Young Bombs Remix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6geGN8nXo
20 Medhelnia // Parade Of Lights // Feeling Electric https://youtu.be/C_tnDY-_oxs
21 Aeroche // Kali Uchis (ft. Tory Lanez) // Ridin' Round (Oshi Redo) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iv016vtaLg
22 N DNTN // Plaitum // Jagwahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-YYdJfHtCE
23 Federal Republic Of Ashton // Madison Beer (ft. Jack & Jack) // All For Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGqKkcrUX7c
24 Unovia // Annalisa // Se avessi un cuore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qEwrFeTZk
25 FSR Rontvia // Real Lies // North Circular https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oojMM3APqK8
26 FKA n // LUH // $ORO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSdfgFW7PQ
27 The Actual Republic Of Bellamia // Jesper Jenset // High https://youtu.be/bjT7drJCKDw
28 Terra Avium // Dehli 2 Dublin // Apples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFuVXzg_gkg
29 D'yermak'er // CAPPA // I'm Good https://soundcloud.com/cappa-music/im-good-2
30 Pupok // Haschak Sisters // Daddy Says No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ01cmdwhfg
31 Hendinia // Mike Perry (ft. Shy Martin) // The Oceanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZPv-j0WZs4
32 Tartford // Cigarettes After Sex // Keep On Loving You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDJPpG8e4n4
33 Altyr Muunilinst // Youngr // Out Of My System https://soundcloud.com/youngr_music/out_of_my_system
34 Ethanola // Billie Black // I Waited For You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN75_VELH7Y
35 Ultraviolenceland // Ana Mena // No Soy Como Tú Crees https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TveMmc6Bfuo
36 Skall // BICEP // JUST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2Oq1J6t70
37 FARC // JONES // Hoops https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qUuexNwsVGc
38 Kylienips // Juventa (ft. Kelly Sweet) // Superhuman (Culture Code Remix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJWyAW4tx4
39 Daehun // Luna // Free Somebody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpwG8f9nt4s
40 Cadelica // Jess Kent // Get Down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNQqEtibfoc
41 Brechtoria // Tigertown // Lonely Cities https://youtu.be/qSg1hJZVoL4

Other votes:
Triangledonia
Avalonia
Flynndonia
Ramrynia
Mulgracia
Aelandor
Harmonica
Tinnmark
Sandeborg
Singerpurear
Deandria
Espen
Oslol
Bignia-Zaragovina
Suedonia
St. Burbia
Greenfroze
Desbuanda

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 21st June 2016, 10:33 PM

oooh yay near the top of the running order

I haven't yet heard the semi one songs so I'm hyped to get started!

Posted by: Cameron 21st June 2016, 10:33 PM

Very excited!

Posted by: Jade 21st June 2016, 10:40 PM

So excited! A great line-up there <3

Posted by: Bré 21st June 2016, 11:23 PM

Ahh glad to see I am up a bit earlier in the running order than I was in the semi! Might get a reaction from more than like 3 people in the plug session this time

Speaking of which ~ I won't step on any toes if Tim and/or Lotti (or anyone else) were already planning to do a final plug session but if not I think I shall host one on Friday night. (After the EU referendum has settled lol).

PS here is a https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5ssvC1pOpu_gwfDCNyVzox0EOBAmYXqu for the final (as Desbuanda/Ramrynia didn't qualify, no songs missing this time).

Posted by: Liаm 22nd June 2016, 12:18 AM

Lotti was talking about doing one on Saturday I think because a couple of us were busy Friday

Posted by: Cody Collins 22nd June 2016, 01:04 AM

Yikes, don't know if being at the beginning of the lineup is a blessing or a curse

Update: WAIT F*CK I'm in the death slot

Posted by: Bradders 22nd June 2016, 05:50 AM

THIS. (About the end!)

Posted by: spun 22nd June 2016, 07:33 AM

I'll get this out the way probably today. Excited to hear (hopefully some more choons) who survived the other side of m
the shipwreck

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd June 2016, 09:42 AM

Voted! Despite losing my 12 from the semi, I'm quite pleased with my top 15 here, and could have voted for 3 or 4 more besides.

As I said in the semis, it's a much more diverse lineup than last month, which is always enjoyable to listen to.

Posted by: spun 22nd June 2016, 09:58 AM

Lite Spots sounds strangely familiar, was it in a tv advert a few years ago or something?

Lonely Cities melody sounds a lot like the one in Galantis' Louder Harder Better

A lot of great songs going through this month, which means unfortunately a lot of commiserations :'( I don't get the hype for $ORO or LSD at all though

Will give another couple of listens and send tonight.

Posted by: Regina 22nd June 2016, 10:36 AM

#DaddyDomination please. I also have Beaver hype.

Posted by: princess_lotti 22nd June 2016, 01:33 PM

point pupok we're worth it

Posted by: Cameron 22nd June 2016, 01:35 PM

!

Posted by: Cameron 22nd June 2016, 01:43 PM

Also, Beaverdonia's has it me 100%. I usually hate instrumentals but oh my good god!!!!!

Posted by: princess_lotti 22nd June 2016, 01:52 PM

also yesss I shall be doing a listen through for this around 7:30 on saturday night if people want

Posted by: Cody Collins 22nd June 2016, 02:13 PM

"$ORO" has actually grown on me a lot more since I voted in the semi, the Rotterdam techno part was a nice touch.

Posted by: Bradders 22nd June 2016, 03:30 PM

Thank you!!! (If you like the song that is... )

Posted by: Mdh 22nd June 2016, 03:45 PM

It spent 7 chart weeks at number one in his chart so I think he does

Posted by: spun 22nd June 2016, 05:18 PM

3.5 actually seeing as I do two charts a week but yeah, Brechtoria hype

Posted by: Mdh 22nd June 2016, 05:37 PM

chart weeks referred to weeks in terms of your chart, like a week in your chart is 3/4 days

Posted by: Cameron 22nd June 2016, 07:24 PM

Voted

Posted by: Bré 22nd June 2016, 09:11 PM

Doing a first listen through of the final now and the song that I initially ranked last in semi 2 might actually end up not far off points, suddenly clicked in a very big way! (Not that that makes any difference at all if it still gets no points, but still ~)

Posted by: Mdh 22nd June 2016, 09:17 PM

The Ocean has clicked with me HUGELY since the semi - I really didn't like it at first but it's in contention for big points now, such a beautiful song

Posted by: 🍑💦🍌 22nd June 2016, 11:09 PM

The Ocean is f***ing shit.

Posted by: Jade 22nd June 2016, 11:13 PM

Voted nice and early! The quality of my top 15 is just incredible. Such a strong final

Posted by: Liаm 23rd June 2016, 12:49 AM

I had the same kind of in semi 1 except I did give it points, and it wasn't quite last but I certainly didn't like it, it's weird because I was like "wtf is this it's awful" and now it's really hit me!

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 23rd June 2016, 11:04 PM

Voted! Can't believe just how much one song in particular has grown on me since the semi's

Posted by: Cucumberella 23rd June 2016, 11:08 PM

i farted voted

Posted by: HarryEzra 24th June 2016, 01:13 AM

Voted There was so many I could have voted for....whittling it down for 15 songs was hard but great contest

Posted by: princess_lotti 24th June 2016, 06:24 PM

still planning on doing a listen through at 7:30 tomorrow!

Posted by: Jade 24th June 2016, 06:24 PM

Already voted but i'll be there 'cause i really enjoyed this final!

Posted by: Cameron 24th June 2016, 06:25 PM

Should be there to woot my song! (Idc how pathetic that sounds x)

Posted by: Robot 24th June 2016, 06:29 PM

This oddly looks like Katie Hopkins has lost a couple of years.

Posted by: Cameron 24th June 2016, 06:35 PM

Katie Hopkins wishes she was Laura Tesco

Posted by: Bradders 25th June 2016, 05:36 PM

I've currently got 16 songs I really want to point!!

Going to send them in tomorrow after another listen through of all the songs - some really good ones! Going to miss the plug session as I am out tonight, but I hope people stick around till the end and have a listen to Lonely Cities together, would love to hear some feedback.

Enjoy guys

Posted by: princess_lotti 25th June 2016, 05:57 PM

https://plug.dj/buzzjack-listen-throughs/ I am here now for the listen through at 7:30!

Posted by: Oliver 25th June 2016, 06:09 PM

Fortunately I'm at the end so I won't miss it. Will be on later baby

Posted by: Cody Collins 25th June 2016, 06:11 PM

I feel like a whole bunch of people are gonna miss my song

PLEASE CHECK IT OUT TO SAVE A LIFE

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 25th June 2016, 06:13 PM

Trust me Cody I'm sure you'll get a top 20 finish at least with it

Posted by: Cody Collins 25th June 2016, 06:58 PM

17 people on now!

Posted by: Cody Collins 25th June 2016, 09:53 PM

Stats coming up!

Posted by: JosephOdell 25th June 2016, 10:09 PM

Voted earlier, really high quality this month!! By far the highest standard all year for me.

Posted by: Cody Collins 25th June 2016, 10:17 PM

Woot/Audience Ratio // Country // Artist // Song // Total Audience // Woots // Mehs

87.5% // Medhelnia // Parade Of Lights // Feeling Electric // 16 // 14 // 0
86.7% // Cor Lupus // JR JR // Gone (Robert DeLong Remix // 15 // 13 // 0
80.0% // Yehesi // Nightcall (ft. Dreamhour) // Dead V (Vocal Version) // 15 // 12 // 0
76.5% // Kluminican Republic // Billie Eilish // Ocean Eyes (Young Bombs Remix) // 17 // 13 // 1
75.0% // New Lexico // Celtic Woman (ft. Oonagh) // Tír na nÓg // 16 // 12 // 0
75.0% // The Actual Republic Of Bellamia // Jesper Jenset // High // 16 // 12 // 0
75.0% // Aeroche // Kali Uchis (ft. Tory Lanez) // Ridin' Round (Oshi Redo) // 16 // 12 // 2
70.6% // Altyr Muunilinst // Youngr // Out Of My System // 17 // 12 // 0
70.6% // N DNTN // Plaitum // Jagwa // 17 // 12 // 1
68.8% // Taahino // Beautiful Bodies // Capture & Release // 16 // 11 // 0
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66.7% // Hushkanukia // Kristina Si - Kosmos // 15 // 10 // 1
66.7% // Beaverdonia // Bang La Decks // Aide // 15 // 10 // 2
62.5% // FKA n // LUH // $ORO // 16 // 10 // 6
61.1% // Ultraviolenceland // Ana Mena // No Soy Como Tú Crees // 18 // 11 // 0
60.0% // Cadelica // Jess Kent // Get Down // 15 // 9 // 0
60.0% // Brechtoria // Tigertown // Lonely Cities // 15 // 9 // 0
60.0% // Botanikka // LP // Lost On You // 15 // 9 // 1
58.8% // Jadakissina // OVERWERK // Toccata // 17 // 10 // 5
57.1% // Syndare // Kwamie Liv // Higher // 14 // 8 // 1
56.3% // Pupok // Haschak Sisters // Daddy Says No // 16 // 9 // 3
56.3% // Seyetana // trippple nippples // LSD // 16 // 9 // 4
56.3% // Federal Republic Of Ashton // Madison Beer (ft. Jack & Jack) // All For Love // 16 // 9 // 5
55.6% // D'yermak'er // CAPPA // I'm Good // 18 // 10 // 1
53.3% // Summericia // Invader Girl // Stuck On You // 15 // 8 // 2
52.9% // Unovia // Annalisa // Se avessi un cuore // 17 // 9 // 0
52.9% // FSR Rontvia // Real Lies // North Circular // 17 // 9 // 3
50.0% // Ethanola // Billie Black // I Waited For You // 18 // 9 // 2
50.0% // Persephonia // Color Guard // In Your Bones // 16 // 8 // 0
50.0% // FARC // JONES // Hoops // 16 // 8 // 0
50.0% // Danaelanda // Croatia Squad & Lika Morgan // Make Your Move // 16 // 8 // 3
50.0% // Trifoski // Lemon Demon // Touch-Tone Telephone // 14 // 7 // 4
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47.1% // Terra Avium // Dehli 2 Dublin // Apples // 17 // 8 // 4
46.7% // Daehun // Luna // Free Somebody // 15 // 7 // 0
46.2% // #00274E // Infinity Ink (ft. Yasmin) // How Do I Love You // 13 // 6 // 2
40.0% // Quintessa // Elektra // I Don't Do Boys // 15 // 6 // 3
40.0% // Cumulonimibia // KAYTRANDA // Lite Spots // 15 // 6 // 6
37.5% // Kylienips // Juventa (ft. Kelly Sweet) // Superhuman (Culture Code Remix) // 16 // 6 // 1
35.3% // Hendinia // Mike Perry (ft. Shy Martin) // The Ocean // 17 // 6 // 3
35.3% // Skall // BICEP // JUST // 17 // 6 // 6
29.4% // Land Of DW // Antti Tuisku // Pyydä Multa Anteeks Kunnolla // 17 // 5 // 4
29.4% // Tartford // Cigarettes After Sex // Keep On Loving You // 17 // 5 // 10

Ties are broken in order: # of Woots ---> # of Mehs -----> Running Order

Shocked at the amazing reception of JR JR after a pretty muted one during the semis, maybe I do have a chance hehe *no one votes for it*

Posted by: princess_lotti 25th June 2016, 10:19 PM

thank you for these cody!

Posted by: Jade 25th June 2016, 10:19 PM

Poor Cigarettes After Sex

(cheers for that Cody!)

Posted by: Iz~ 25th June 2016, 10:22 PM

Aww at Daehun so low, that's the main one I was sorry to miss after I had to leave about 10 from the end.

Medhelnia at the top is fantastic. <3

Posted by: Virginia's Walls 25th June 2016, 10:25 PM

0 mehs!

Posted by: Iz~ 25th June 2016, 10:25 PM

Wait, that can't be right

edit: Indeed it isn't, it got 2, someone else seeing the light.

Posted by: JosephOdell 25th June 2016, 10:27 PM

What at that reaction for Jesper !!!!!

Posted by: Cody Collins 25th June 2016, 10:30 PM

i see my tunnel vision is getting the best of me

Posted by: Bré 25th June 2016, 10:35 PM

I don't see those results being anywhere even close to reflecting the final results tbh. Interesting nonetheless ~ odds definitely shortening on Medhelnia ;o

Posted by: Cody Collins 25th June 2016, 11:16 PM

Votes sent now! I already had a pretty clear top 6, so I really needed the listenthrough to sort out the rest of my order, so thank God for that.

Really need Medhelnia to pull through for the underdogs.

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2016, 11:25 PM

Wow at that...just about the ONLY entry that performed in line with my odds was my own could be set for some very interesting results indeed!

Posted by: Addy K!ng 25th June 2016, 11:34 PM

Definitely way better reaction for LP than in semis...talking about a grower

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2016, 11:43 PM

Hendinia tho...is it actually going to majorly flop or are literally all of its fans from 'the silent majority'?

Posted by: *Tim 26th June 2016, 02:34 AM

Yeshi coming for ha top 3 again *.*

ends the final at #32

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 26th June 2016, 07:18 AM

#MedheLupus coming for the top 2 tho (or slumping to #35 and #36 respectively more likely)

Brechtoria's reaction was good to see, and that song that embodied the feeling of sniffing 100 lines of cocaine was great too.

Posted by: Bradders 26th June 2016, 07:37 AM

Thanks. I wasn't expecting that after going last!

YES at Medhelnia though. I knew it would be a Top 10... Could it be even more?! What a great main comp debut position you're going to get. So deserved

Posted by: Robot 26th June 2016, 03:42 PM

I'm still quietly confident I could scrape like 9th/10th with this, despite Plug reaction, because I think those who do like it seem to really like it which is helpful and I wouldn't have thought it's as divisive as songs like FKA Pi's, when it comes to it being completely polarizing, love it or hate it.

Posted by: Bradders 26th June 2016, 05:05 PM

Voted - I had 16 I could point and I have given 4 other mentions. Feel bad for the person in 16th, hope they don't need the point!

Really enjoyed taking part in this though, and feel I've been introduced to some brilliant artists/songs. It is quite time consuming, but I've enjoyed it, and will definitely be back. Sorry for the cheese moment...

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 26th June 2016, 05:21 PM

There's the pressure of you bringing something equally good for BJSC 86 though

Posted by: Klumzee 26th June 2016, 06:19 PM

So surprised I ended up 4th best after that plug session! I would be over the moon with a top 10 I'm not sure Ocean Eyes is going to be getting many big points but at least plug has shown a lot of people like it

Posted by: HausofKubrick 26th June 2016, 07:00 PM

Just to clear something up that I told the mods about earlier ~

I'm determined to vote in this but as I've informed the BJSC mods I may be unable to due to real life / family issues. I managed to listen to half earlier in between hospital visits but as I'm not sure what lies around the corner for the next few days I'm not sure if I'll get the time. As I've said I am determined to vote because I need to support my faves (of which there are many - what a strong final!) but thought I'd clear up now before people start panicking or questioning why and Bré starts his manhunt to find the non-voters this is just a precaution that I've given in plenty of time, hopefully I will vote as normal!

Posted by: Jade 26th June 2016, 07:03 PM

Thanks for letting us all know Bal! Hope you do find the time to vote but real life of course comes first.

Posted by: Cucumberella 26th June 2016, 07:08 PM

i don't know if anyone's got back to you but none of the mods have a problem if you cannot vote with your circumstances - just make sure you're focusing on the important things and my thoughts are with you right now

Posted by: Bradders 26th June 2016, 07:32 PM

I hope you're OK. Thoughts are with you and your family!

Posted by: HausofKubrick 26th June 2016, 08:27 PM

Thanks everyone <3

Yeah Ryan has got back to me! Thanks for being supportive, as I said I just wanted to clear things up and get answers about what would happen well in advance in case I can't vote.

Posted by: Bré 26th June 2016, 08:40 PM

I shall remove D'yermak'er from the 'to stalk' list of course (), sorry to hear about these circumstances

(I have just voted myself btw x Really love all of my top 20 so some painful commiserations, the highlights this month are amazeeee, think this may be my 2nd favourite contest of the year after 82 <3)

Posted by: LexC 26th June 2016, 09:43 PM

I have sent my wotes. After initially being unimpressed with semi 1, a combination of some great stuff from the other semi and songs growing on me left about 20 songs I would've been happy voting for (including stuff that's not usually my style but they won me over).

Posted by: JSG 27th June 2016, 02:32 PM

Will be voting last minute eek!

Posted by: Mart!n 27th June 2016, 02:38 PM

I thought I sent my votes last night but I didn't had them ready to go, just boted.

Posted by: Mattias 27th June 2016, 02:39 PM

This I think :')

Posted by: Liаm 27th June 2016, 02:39 PM

More votes please, I'll send out reminders tonight but why do so many people leave it until the last day?

Posted by: RobS 27th June 2016, 02:41 PM

Voted a few hours ago. Really good final again and throwing some hype to Cody's song *.*

Posted by: Mart!n 27th June 2016, 02:41 PM

Oh fook sent my votes to Leww lucky I saved them, on the way to you now. And I feel your pain when I hosted

Posted by: Leonardo 27th June 2016, 04:51 PM

Voted

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 27th June 2016, 04:54 PM

Will be voting soon, this is going to be so hard, I've really connected with this set of songs to a further extent than 83 & 84 (84 was a really poor contest)

Posted by: JSG 27th June 2016, 05:04 PM

I myself don't usually but the last few contests have fallen on busy times for me actually about to vote now since I have some free time!! 😁

Posted by: popchartfreak 27th June 2016, 06:42 PM

I'm running through the top contenders from both semis right now. Hoping to get the positions sorted tonight, but will have them regardless around tea time Tues if not.

Posted by: Doctor Blind 27th June 2016, 08:21 PM

The Cumulonimbians have voted ~

Posted by: Liаm 27th June 2016, 10:55 PM

I'm sending out reminders now, but Michael's inbox was full so MICHAEL VOTE PLEASE

Posted by: Iz~ 27th June 2016, 11:00 PM

My votes will be in before I go to sleep x

Posted by: Virginia's Walls 27th June 2016, 11:41 PM

I'll vote tomorrow afternoon, I'm on it x

Posted by: Jacob Alan 28th June 2016, 01:23 AM

Voted!

Posted by: *Tim 28th June 2016, 03:23 AM

Rude, I didnt get anything

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 03:59 AM

I was going to harass you separately until you vote later

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 28th June 2016, 07:38 AM

Voted. Some really good songs in there, compared to a 1 point score of 7.3 in BJSC 83 and 6.4 in BJSC 84 this got a 1 point score of 7.7, so it's 0.4 better than 83 and 1.3 better than 84

Posted by: Mattias 28th June 2016, 03:15 PM

This seems to be a bit of a theme #noshade or whatever

My votes will be in, really want to support my favourites (Tartford! Syndare! Séyetana! + others, including anything from semi 2 I'll like that I haven't heard yet), but like in the last final, I'm afraid they will be in really last minute-ish again.

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 03:19 PM

Only just hit half votes, not to be a twat about it because I know people sometimes can't help it (there are a few who's circumstances I know and understand for being busy or out of their control) but I have a life too and it does take a long time to prep finals so it is a tad annoying when over half of the entrants leave it until the last minute

Posted by: Regina 28th June 2016, 03:38 PM

I don't see why some people seem to get a kcik form making host's lives so much harder than they need to be by not bothering to vote until the last second.
Understanable if you have rea issues but "oh I was asleep" or "lol last minute again lol bantz" is a piss poor excuse. If you can't dedicate the time then don't enter?

Posted by: gooddelta 28th June 2016, 03:45 PM

One of the worst things about hosting is having to do it all in a rush at the end.

I wonder if the rule that results must be delivered within 20 hours of the deadline could be relaxed a bit, or extended to 48 hours, considering so many people seem to like to vote at the absolute last second. It's not like all hosts can just give up their entire next day to devote to BJSC prep, and that's near enough how long it takes when so many votes come in at the last minute every month!

Posted by: Ryan. 28th June 2016, 03:48 PM

It's been the case for as long as I remember unfortunately. Some people are happy to have 1 listen and send votes off straight away earlier in the week, some people prefer to listen multiple times over the voting period in case there are growers so therefore leave it until the final day. I don't think it's a matter of not being able to dedicate the time, in fact the late voters arguably dedicate more time that earlier voters in several instances due to repeat listenings so their votes are as representative as possible. It just unfortunately has the follow-on effect of making life harder for the host but it's the way it has always been. It's a lose-lose situation in some ways.

EDIT: That rule is there but I think it has been waived on occasions where the host hasn't been able to manage that, it just encourages next day results as that is what lots of people want - whereas if it was specified 48 hours then 90% of hosts would use that extra day frustrating a lot of members.

Posted by: Regina 28th June 2016, 03:50 PM

"its the way it always has been" is the worst kind of excuse, that doesn't mean nothing should happen about it. More often than not it's actually just laziness for the majority of people.

Posted by: Chez Wombat 28th June 2016, 03:54 PM

I'm voting right now, sorry about leaving it relatively last minute, partly why I left this so late was because my votes were VERY hard to decide this time (like Ryan says, I can't vote on just one half arsed listen unless I'm super busy, I need to make sure I include all the songs I want to) and I have been a bit busy over the last week and today I've had a free day to finalise them.

Anyway, this is surely the strongest final this year, Semi 1 was definitely more my thing and made up for the losses from Semi 2. Wonderful stuff. I'm really into all of the seeming contenders going by the odds threads this time too, which is a bonus.

Posted by: Ryan. 28th June 2016, 03:54 PM

I'm not making excuses, just an observation.

Maybe it is time to implement what I've daydreamed about in my head since Eurovision this year and group all of the last day voters into one dramatic combined vote at the end. Multiple benefits to this would be that it would encourage voters to not leave it till the last day as if they did they wouldn't get their moment of fame in the results thread (except for the spreadsheet at the end), there would be less prep work (probably 40 individual votes instead of 60+), a guaranteed exciting ending instead of knowing the winner multiple votes from the end and also a shorter results show that may only go on for 3 hours rather than 5. Sounds perfect! *.* (I know no-one would agree to this but I can dream )

Posted by: Cameron 28th June 2016, 03:55 PM

Oh I agree that last minute voting is incredibly frustrating, I have always arranged the results of a contest to be on a day I am not at work or Uni so that I can count

I don't really think late voters put in more effort to listening, I think it is more to do with either working full time and not having a moment to vote, or just being lazy and putting it off and then realising you have to vote an hour before the deadline.

Posted by: princess_lotti 28th June 2016, 03:56 PM

I'd actually support trying this out one month! it could make it v dramatic

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 03:57 PM

The repeated listens thing might be true but I mean people who vote early in the week run the risk of "oh I should have given that 15 instead of 11", I've had that myself. It hardly matters and it's hardly the end of the world.

I know I might be coming across as throwing my toys out of the pram or being a lazy host but it's just a thing I've noticed, plus I'm a worrier and keep thinking what if there are still like 15 votes missing, what if I do things wrong in the midst of it all (I do like triple check though ). I know that people work, have whatever they're doing and that's fine, but equally I think some people just leave it out of laziness or they can't be arsed and don't realise how much work it takes to prep them all. I'm not expecting everyone to explain themselves either it's just me airing my frustration more than anything. This is probably partly me assuming hosting would be easier than it is

Posted by: Cameron 28th June 2016, 03:57 PM

That is a very good idea!

Posted by: gooddelta 28th June 2016, 03:58 PM

I think there's also an element of 'deadline mentality', as the same thing happens in other BJ competitions, not necessarily because everyone is taking a lot of time thinking about their answers, but just because the deadline is there so it might as well be exploited (think how many rates always arrive on the last day...though that's possibly also because people try and create hype for their own).

Also, presumably when it comes to BJSC finals a large proportion of voters do actually hear all the songs for the first time during the semi stage, so don't need the whole 7 days to come up with the most accurate set of votes, and even if they haven't it's only another 20 'new' songs to get through.

As a participant it has no effect on me, or anyone else, of course but for hosts it's a pain, because it would be an awful lot easier to tot them up bit by bit during the week, and gradually prepare the results thread, rather than giving up a day of your time after the deadline has passed.

Posted by: spun 28th June 2016, 03:59 PM

+1 to this

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 03:59 PM

So then how would the "combined" vote be revealed? Will we get to see how the individuals in the combined vote ordered their votes or will it just be a representative of what they collectively voted for?

The way you described its representation in the spreadsheet almost makes it seem like voting at the last minute = not voting at all

Posted by: princess_lotti 28th June 2016, 04:00 PM

could it go Eurovision style from smallest amount of points received to the largest?

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 04:01 PM

Also that is definitely a good idea! Maybe if a final still has 15-20 votes or so, lump them all into the same thing like the televoting stats at Eurovision, like "from 18 countries Unovia received _____", I'd definitely discuss that with the mods and see at making that a part of the format.

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 04:03 PM

If that's the case then RIP the Ashtonise votes in the results thread

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 04:04 PM

Well you are voting, your votes count exactly the same... I'd sacrifice a paragraph or a couple of gifs for the tension and excitement of Ryan's idea for sure. Most people who are in a rush near the end because they've worked all week probably won't present votes with a host and paragraphs etc. anyway

Posted by: gooddelta 28th June 2016, 04:04 PM

This is a great idea, maybe something to trial in a spin-off perhaps to see how it goes down there first?



Yes, that would be great! It does tend to be a lot of the more non-pop voters that leave voting until the last minute too quite often I've noticed, which could mean a big swing upwards for all of the alt entries at the last minute!

Posted by: Ryan. 28th June 2016, 04:05 PM

Haha it was completely a random thought that I haven't thought about in detail, but I guess say if Hendinia got 80 points from the last day voters there could be a breakdown underneath saying who gave those 80 points on the last day. But all the details would be on the spreadsheet as normal and count just the same.



That's what I imagined!

Posted by: princess_lotti 28th June 2016, 04:07 PM

MAKE THIS HAPPEN MODS PLS

Posted by: Cameron 28th June 2016, 04:07 PM

I think it would be incredible and brutal 'Unovia received 0 points from the 21 countries still to vote, this keeps them at 29th position on the scoreboard' (soz Liam )

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 04:09 PM

I do think it will be fun but I also like to see my song gradually score points

Posted by: Iz~ 28th June 2016, 04:09 PM

Hosts have often presented multiple late votes in one post as a smaller version of what Ryan's suggesting, speeding up the results towards the end, one block at the end might work but it could also be quite overwhelming.

(also I am a perfectionist with my votes but I can't ignore hosts pleading for help and that's the main reason why I often vote on the second-last day)

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 04:11 PM

Didn't Yu do two votes in one post for the majority of the results at one point?

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 04:13 PM

lol as if I flop that badly xo

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 04:14 PM

Yes but no offence it's not about what you like as an individual I think any new rules and format that make things a bit easier for the host but also ramps up the tension a bit is great!

Posted by: Ryan. 28th June 2016, 04:14 PM

Ramrynia are currently top with 367 points with just Persephonia left to receive their points from the final day voters. Persephonia receive 195 points from them which... isn't enough as they only end up with 366 in total!!!!11111

I'm surprised by the support by this, may be worth giving it a trial run in a spin-off - talking of which, we will be having one next month so look out for that!

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 04:15 PM

Oooh, that would be a good way to trial that, just like the confirmations via Google account

Posted by: Robot 28th June 2016, 04:29 PM

I will be voting today, the last day, as I often do because I have somewhat of a life and BJSC isn't a huge priority amongst it. But I participate because I enjoy discovering new music I wouldn't otherwise here.

Cute suggestion that it's out of spite though.

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 04:35 PM

I'm not saying it's out of spite, if that's the way I came across then I didn't mean it that way, I just would rather that half the voters didn't leave it so a mountain of prep has to be done. if anything good has come out of it it's Ryan's suggestion which as I said is a good way to make things easier for hosts, letting people vote whenever they can still, and not detracting from the contest, as it adds excitement and tension to the process.

I'm sorry if I am coming across snappy or bitter or angry to anyone, it's not that, I'm just a bit stressed and overwhelmed at prep and making sure everything is right because as I said I am a worrier, and didn't quite realise that hosting would be so much work and checking, because I want to make sure the contest runs smoothly.

Posted by: Oliver 28th June 2016, 04:36 PM

Will be voting today. I apologised to Liam last night as I've just been incredibly lazy this week in terms of finding a good hour or two to dedicate fully to listening. Will be voting tonight.

Posted by: Robot 28th June 2016, 04:43 PM

Oh, no not you, I do actually acknowledge that it'd be annoying as a host to know you had loads of work to do when that option could be saved. But Regina's suggestion of it being out of spite is bullshit because I obviously wouldn't want to inflict that on any member here for the sake of it

Hosting is stressful, don't apologise for that!

Posted by: Cucumberella 28th June 2016, 04:49 PM

omg at rob!!!! something crawled up ya booty n did double duty i screeched

Posted by: Cucumberella 28th June 2016, 04:50 PM

Rob: ""

an actual quote

Posted by: Regina 28th June 2016, 04:55 PM

No need to get your panties in a wad. I never suggested anything like that.

Posted by: HarryEzra 28th June 2016, 04:56 PM

Oh is Cats vs Dogs finally happening

Also I support Ryan's idea...when it was on Eurovision it made things wayyy more tense and just *.*

Posted by: Cucumberella 28th June 2016, 05:00 PM

i actually wanted to do that scoring this month but then i wasn't hosting the final and i was like o lmao

Posted by: Cameron 28th June 2016, 05:10 PM

Liam to do it please

Posted by: Jerick 28th June 2016, 05:48 PM

Tinnmark have voted!

The rate average this final was 6.317 for me. A nul and a couple of 1's brought down the average a bit

Posted by: danG 28th June 2016, 05:55 PM

Danaelanda voted earlier this afternoon. Quite a few surprises in the voting actually, including one country we barely ever give points to.

Posted by: Silas 28th June 2016, 06:12 PM

The 20hr thing is in the rules to heavily encourage next day results. If we have to push it out by 24hrs then so be it, that's fine and as long as the mods are informed we're fairly chill.


I like the idea of presenting the last day results in a block, that is certainly something to look into in more depth. In BJSC there is a habit of bandwagoning onto half formed concepts and ideas and ending up with monstrosities like the ban list (which i'm sure very few of you were around for, but trust me it was an unmitigated disaster not unlike brexit) so I'm going to hit the brakes and ask for caution here. It's something that we will have to trial on a smaller scale first, once we have had time to flesh out the concept.

The idea is good and we will trial it in the next spin off, but a main contest is too big a stage for an idea that is still so rough and undefined just 24hrs out from the results.

I respect that the idea has some enthusiasm and that's so wonderful to see and I'd like to harness that, but I think there is too much to discuss to get it done for this contest without it being half arsed or terrible. If we're doing it we're going to do it well.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 28th June 2016, 06:32 PM

I love that Eurovision idea!

(Though it would have been horrid last month considering I actually got like 0 points from the last 20 voters )

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 06:33 PM

Yeah I didn't want to do it this contest without prior warning, because some who've voted today have presented "proper" votes, for want of a better word, but also to make sure the mods can discuss for a spin-off trial, or the next contest, as gives plenty of time.

And I'm still fine to do results tomorrow, it may be 9 rather than 8 but no later than that, and I'm not going to linger on it too long, so they won't go on too late, I think last month's results were a perfect pace so I'm gonna try for about that!

Posted by: Addy K!ng 28th June 2016, 07:06 PM

Unpopular opinion of the day but apparently 'Lost On You' won UKMIX forum song contest

Posted by: popchartfreak 28th June 2016, 07:12 PM

voted, dat was hard.

Posted by: gooddelta 28th June 2016, 07:19 PM

The banlist (the nominations process one at least) was my idea, and looking back I can't imagine why I thought it was a good idea for people to nominate songs and artists to be banned.

I think it was two things - firstly it was a reaction to Tirren's idea of a mod-elected banlist (people seemed to dislike the fact that only the mods would have a say on what would be banned - that didn't bother me particularly but I was trying to come up with an alternative suggestion) and IIRC there was another proposal at the same time that songs that were participating could be disqualified halfway through a contest if they suddenly took off on iTunes or appeared on the Radio 1 playlist...! (Which would have meant a swift exit for the likes of Sigala/Roll Deep etc and made a real mess of the results).

Then again, the banlist was quite a popular suggestion at the time, and people mostly seemed happy to trial it. But BJSC was a very different kettle of fish back then. I expect there really would have been riots if the veto process that we have now had been implemented midway through 2009. It's certainly a fairer, more logical and much more scientific system of course, but it would have wiped out about half of all of the songs in the contest in 2009, whereas the banlist only made about about 4 or 5 songs a month ineligible to send, most of which wouldn't have been confirmed by anyone anyway. (Not that I'm sticking up for the banlist, it really was an awful idea but at the time it made a lot more sense than it does now due to different eras and it looked tame compared to some of the alternative rule change proposals around at the time).

Posted by: Mattias 28th June 2016, 07:34 PM

Voted! Will try not to leave it so late in future.

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 07:40 PM

So if we're doing the collective vote blob thing for the last day voters, will their actual votes that they sent be revealed after the fact or will they just be lost in the void?

Posted by: Cameron 28th June 2016, 07:43 PM

they will be revealed in the spreadsheet I imagine?

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 07:50 PM

i meant the actual pm's

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 07:52 PM

You can always save them to your PMs and post them yourself if you want to reveal your "actual" votes.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 28th June 2016, 07:57 PM

I've sent some votes in after all! Based primarily on semi listens and a bit of recapping but it's such an incredible final and one i'll definitely be returning to often <3

Posted by: gooddelta 28th June 2016, 08:01 PM

I think it would have to be a 'last six hours' final blob of votes rather than a last day thing though, seeing as quite often more than half are still outstanding with 24 hours to go, so you couldn't really present 35 votes in one blob, after taking ages to present the first 25. Or maybe just have a fixed number each time like the last 15 votes go into the final blob, regardless of timing (though there will pretty much always be way more than 15 outstanding on the final day).

The other possible issue of course is that not all hosts choose to present the results in order of receipt, so this would pretty much eradicate the freedom for hosts to present the votes in the order they wish to, in order to maximise tension early on in the reveal or whatever (though I guess they could still order the first lot as they wish to).

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 08:25 PM

A last three hours one would be nice

Posted by: Silas 28th June 2016, 09:03 PM

The problem, from my pov, was that what we ended up doing after my victory and the contest's break was actually what we wanted to do and tried to do when we ended up with the banlist!!

Second time we explained it better and dictated and it has lead us to this point, which is much better.

That's why we're not doing it just yet. All of this is still to be determined.

The mods will have a chat and then I have proposed that after that we come into the main forum and all of us have a look at a more detailed version of a proposal.

Posted by: Cucumberella 28th June 2016, 09:08 PM

i would imagine how it would work is that commentaries would be accepted up to a first deadline, then then votes up to another?

Posted by: gooddelta 28th June 2016, 09:25 PM

Was the one you hosted the Unknown one?

I think I recall that contest you scrapped the banlist (and the artist reservation thread *shudders*) and introduced some measures about blocking the release schedule and obvious BJ-loved artists, like Katy Perry/Gaga etc, with an appeal process in place, which I guess is where the current rules evolve from.

But yes, it worked much better that time because you just implemented it and went with it, rather than canvassing for views first, which is what Tirren initially did and it really didn't work, because nobody could agree on anything

Still, I think we're in a very good place now, and have learnt from past mistakes. I can't believe we ever had a time looking back where everyone could basically hog five artists that they might have sent (and iirc a lot of people started to abuse that system by also reserving artists that they didn't want to send...but didn't want anybody else to send!)

I need someone to compile a big history of BJSC (much like the more general history of BJ threads we had in the lounge last year), as some of this stuff just needs to be relived!

Posted by: Bré 28th June 2016, 09:43 PM

If we do do this combining the last block of votes into a single thing a la Eurovision (which sounds like it could be quite interesting so I'm not against it!) could we still have the actual PMs for those votes posted? (As in just all in a single post after everything is revealed). It'd be a bit difficult to check that there aren't errors in the final spreadsheet if the spreadsheet itself is the only thing to go off (I know this is usually not a big issue as any errors are negligible 99% of the time but it could be significant if there are ever any ties in or around the top 2).

Posted by: Ryan. 28th June 2016, 09:58 PM

I think that would be doable yes. It wouldn't need to be an immediate thing, but for hosts to post all of the PMs in a single post within the next couple of days with no extra formatting should be easy enough to achieve once the (immense!) pressure of results show day is over.

Posted by: Silas 28th June 2016, 10:18 PM

Ashton's votes are in with a whole 43 minutes to spare.

We listened to Unovia's plea to vote early!

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 10:27 PM

ROB WHAT ARE YOU DOING

I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WETE GONNA VOTE

Posted by: Qween 28th June 2016, 10:31 PM

Voted, a VERY easy 18. It wasn't a discovery but it's still among my favourite ever BJSC entries (because it was an Altyr contender, natch).

Posted by: Bré 28th June 2016, 10:34 PM

I'm doing a simulation of this proposed new reveal system based on the results for BJSC75 (just splitting the last half of the votes into a single block) - might post a separate thread for this if anyone is interested in what it might look like

The most eye-opening thing from doing this so far is that Desbuanda were in the first half of the votes for that contest! ;o

Posted by: Virginia's Walls 28th June 2016, 10:36 PM

I'm interested, Cyiaks.

Posted by: Regina 28th June 2016, 10:38 PM

I thought when people got girlfriends they stopped doing things like that?

Posted by: Virginia's Walls 28th June 2016, 10:42 PM

Bre may be with ha better half but sha will never stop being a lone wolf in her BJSC!!

Posted by: Bré 28th June 2016, 10:42 PM

Yeah thanks for that totally necessary input Regina! x

Posted by: Cucumberella 28th June 2016, 10:45 PM

Posted by: Jade 28th June 2016, 10:47 PM

Stats are sexay tho

Would be interested in seeing that Bray! Since i'm in two minds about this whole thing.

Posted by: Cameron 28th June 2016, 10:50 PM

you need help hunny.

Posted by: Liаm 28th June 2016, 10:50 PM

My Strange Addiction teas

Posted by: HarryEzra 28th June 2016, 10:51 PM

Im in

Posted by: Noahspike 28th June 2016, 10:51 PM

Lol, I'm equally as confused that this ever happened! Go me.

(Rush ordering votes as we speak (cos I get a huge kick from making hosts' lives as difficult as possible obvs))

Posted by: Jade 28th June 2016, 10:51 PM

!


At least i don't eat mattresses x

Posted by: Cucumberella 28th June 2016, 10:52 PM

wet and or/messy applicants pls apply

Posted by: HarryEzra 28th June 2016, 10:55 PM

Ill apply via Bebo hen that k?

Posted by: Silas 28th June 2016, 10:55 PM

Just going to put this here.

We're working on what this is likely to look like and will get back to you and demo it in due course, after all a demo is pretty pointless and meaningless if you have no idea what the format will look like or how it would be revealed.

Reign in the enthusiasm, I already have Ryan for that, and just chill. We like the idea so it won't be long before we can do something that actually has a grounding in reality.

Posted by: Robot 28th June 2016, 10:56 PM

VOTED

Posted by: Riser 28th June 2016, 11:07 PM

If it's just an optional method for doing results, then maybe a host could still post every country's votes individually the way it's currently done if they're willing to, basically decide for themselves just like how they can decide what order to reveal the votes. I was interpreting the idea as an option for each host rather than a permanent change, at least I think it's something that could be left to the host's discretion. Either way it sounds great (forgive me Silas, I didn't have a chance to read/post until now ).

<3333333

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 11:07 PM

Where are Yu now that I need Yu

Those late voters just like to be a bunch of bullies

(I hope I get some points from Desbuanda soon! ~)

Posted by: Jade 28th June 2016, 11:11 PM

OMG has Pavel not voted? D: Not here for a '$ORO' deduction </3

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 11:18 PM

Looks like Daehun will be celebrating their 50th a month too late

Posted by: Oricon 28th June 2016, 11:20 PM

Apologies guys, I've got listened to the songs a while back but I've not fully formed my votes as I'm not currently in the mood to listen to songs right now due to family circumstances. I shall just bow out of next month's contest instead.

Posted by: Virginia's Walls 28th June 2016, 11:22 PM

Ok Oricon x

Real life first!

Posted by: Cucumberella 28th June 2016, 11:23 PM

Yu has personal family issues which has affected his ability to vote and we were made aware of that in advance so much like Bal he was given grace if he wanted it!

Posted by: Silas 28th June 2016, 11:26 PM

Yup never a moment that was in doubt for us. The easiest decisions I ever make as a mod are these ones. Your families trump BJSC

Posted by: Cody Collins 28th June 2016, 11:28 PM

Really hope all is right with you Yu, if you need anybody my PM box is always open

Posted by: Liаm 29th June 2016, 12:35 AM

Only non-voters in the end were Vulkyria, Klum Rep and FKA n as well as Daehun who obviously don't get the deduction and ban for reasons stated in this thread!

Posted by: Cody Collins 29th June 2016, 12:48 AM

FFS KLUM AND PAVEL

Posted by: Mattias 29th June 2016, 11:14 AM

This would be fabulous. Maybe a collaborative effort from a few people (Bré of course, to name one).

Posted by: Klumzee 29th June 2016, 11:25 AM

Ah sorry guys thought the deadline for this was Wednesday night and I've been pretty busy recently so not had much chance to give the songs a proper listen! No malice intended