HELLOOOOOO!
ROUND 1: FREE CHOICE
> Any song by your artist. <
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It's a TRIPLE ELIMINATION this round.
You all have until 3rd May 23:59, to help the moderators decide what to go for. There are 16 rounds overall and they are THEMED (moderators, please see AF Moderating Forum - no reveal of the themes though, please.)
How do you think 'Stupid Girls' or 'Blow Me (One Last Kiss)' would fair in the first round of free choice?
Stupid Girls would be a great shot! Raise Your Glass ?
Hmmm, I love both Jonjo’s suggestions. I think Blow Me is the stronger track but it’s so hard to gauge what will work. She went out with Don’t Let Me Get Me last time to Zara Larsson of all people!
U +Ur Hand?
Or is that too obscure these days?
I’m not a Pink expert but ‘True Love’ could be a shout. Not only is it an amazing pop song but it did cutely on the charts and even if it’s not a standout in her discography it could deffo beat three songs.
I think Blow me would be a good choice for this round. Its done really well in the recent singles poll but I wouldn't say it's one of her best hits? So it would probably be better to use it now than in later rounds?
Just fyi @trouble & T Boy, once you've come to a firm decision, PM me with your choice before 23:59 tonight.
U + Ur Hand definitely
U + Ur Hand could be used later tbh! It's v popular on BJ iirc
I think blow me would be good for this round, its among her most popular songs but she has one or 2 more popular than it also.
Great choice, i have put through my votes now and Pink made my list
I hope she gets through, I feel like it’s a really strong song and some of the others....aren’t.
I'd say this is a safe choice! I really can't see it coming close to the bottom 3!
For round 2 I'd say Get This Party Started, So What or What About Us. I love Trouble but I don't know how the forum feels about it.
'Trouble' is probably too unknown compared to what others will be sending.
'Raise Your Glass' could be good for this round?
I'd say WAU or RYG would be perfect for now. I'd personally prefer the latter
I’d send There You Go or What About Us.
Trouble is a no go. Stupid Girls is also divisive.
Get The Party Started and So What for later rounds.
What about us for round 2 please.
So for this round we can choose from:
There you go Her first era isn't popular enough to go with TYG
Get the party started Could work, is it considered a pop classic? Its not one of my favourite Pink songs but its one of her most popular
Trouble (or do we count feel good time as the first single from try this? ) I don't think either trouble or FGT would be popular enough
Stupid girls I think this one could work, but it'd be a massive risk
So what Deffo one to save for later!
Raise your glass Another one I feel could be saved for later
What about us Could work, it was a great come back song and started off one of her strongest eras
Walk me home Not sure, its recent, but given its very little promo, is it well liked here? Popular enough to get through? Could we use this as a risk so that we can save the bigger hits until later?
Given those thoughts I'd either go with Get the party started or What about us, while also considering Walk me home and RYG
There You Go-no from me
Get The Party Started-I think this is quite popular with general pop fans, more than it is with Pink fans. I think it’s a big contender.
Trouble-popular with Pink fans but I’m not sure outside of that. (FGT wouldn’t work at all)
Stupid Girls-I love it but it’d be a huge risk. People don’t like the message these days.
So What-the best one here but definitely save it for later!
Raise Your Glass-another contender but maybe one to save?
What About Us-this could work. I do recall it being popular.
Walk Me Home-I don’t think this one would work.
I feel my top 3 choices would be
1) Get The Party Started
2) What About Us
3) Raise Your Glass
Ironically we used my favourite lead for the first round
What about us and get the party started I think either of these would be best.
Stupid Girls is my favourite from that list but I agree it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, I think Get This Party Started is a good choice and a great throwback
Shall I message Jonjo, we have less than an hour!
We got through with get the party started 🎉
Next round - a song without a music video
The first one that came to my mind is I'm not dead?
Any other suggestions?
One Foot Wrong or It's All Your Fault? Or Dear Mr President if the live video doesn't count?
Live video's don't count.
(But music videos where the tour footage is their official music video is not allowed - example: P!nk - Leave Me Alone/Little Mix - Change Your Life/Nothing Else Matters etc..)
It’s a toughie but it needs to be something people will know. Dear Mr President is a shout. Maybe Bad Influence? I know some of her recent singles have no video but I really don’t think her new material will work.
Tbh I can't remember if DMP's video is live or just an official tour montage video.
Leave Me Alone was a tour montage so I don’t think DMP was as they were released together.
Just had an update and want to officially clarify that DMP can NOT be used after all
Sorry.
Hmmm what Pink album tracks do casual Pink fans know and like? It's All Your Fault is the only one coming to me.
Did A Million Dreams have a video?
'Bad Influence' seems like a strong choice to me - I'm biased because it was a single and a big hit in Australia, but I'd assume its partial single status (it was also a single in Germany/Austria/Switzerland in 2010, and the Netherlands in 2011) would make it better known than any album tracks?
If we're talking Australian singles there's also 'Cuz I Can', but I strongly expect I'm alone in my love for that
Bad Influence is a good shout!
18 wheeler is a STRONG one for P!NK I bloody love that track. Maybe Missundaztood as people will associate it with the album?
I’m Not Dead, Ave Mary A, Heartbreak Down or Long Way To Happy.
^ Looks like it did! Didn't know. (Not sure where the line is drawn between 'live video' and 'live performance', but Wikipedia calls it a music video at least.)
On that note, 'Glitter In The Air' had the big Grammys performance but doesn't look like it exists as a music video - is that song popular here? I don't think it'd make my vote personally but it might be better known than 'Bad Influence'.
People often won’t vote for songs they don’t know in this. Bad Influence and Glitter In The Air are both quite well known and I’m leaning more towards the former. There’s also Can We Pretend which I don’t think has a video but was a single but I really don’t think that one will do well.
I think Bad Influence is sure to get her through, it’s in my top 3 o from that album for sure
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I’ve seen a few people saying they’ve only just discovered Bad Influence and it’s made their top 11. We love to see it!
Think she's doing pretty well!
Try is winning the best Pink single of the decade poll so maybe that for free choice. I think Who Knew or What About Us could be a good shout though!
Who Knew I can see being an easy win tbh whereas What About Us is maybe more of a risk to send? WK is arguably my favourite Pink song but WAU isn’t something I can say I’ve ever gone back to
That’s my opinion though
What About Us isn’t that popular. It’s what lost out to a Basic Zara Larsson song last year.
Who Knew and Try are good shouts. I think perhaps we could afford to go with a pretty popular track this time round and I don’t think either of them fit the criteria for later rounds.
'Who Knew' and 'Try' seem like good choices for now! Both would probably get my vote.
I'm thinking raise your glass for this round?
Who knew and try are far too popular to be sending yet, between those two, and so what and just like a pill, are four that we should hang on to I think
How is U + Ur Hand regarded? It's my favourite ever Pink single (well top 3 at least ) but is it a forgotten gem these days?
just like a pill
^ You're not meant to say what the upcoming rounds are publicly! Everything I just read is news to me
How is 'Get the Party Started' regarded? I know it's classic but is it one that should be left until later?
Lol, that completely passed me by and I even voted for it!
Who Knew would be a great choice!
Or Lady Marmalade.
Lady Marmalade would be a great choice, or Just like a pill perhaps, maybe Don't let me get me?
Try is a brill choice, its my one of my absolute faves from her.
Pink's last singles rate was in 2013.
Bottom 3 were You Make Me Sick, Bridge of Light and There You Go.
I'd go with one of the CTMH singles tbh - maybe There You Go. They aren't even bad choices tbf just not really the Pink everyone loves.
Wow has it really been that long?
There You Go would be my pick of those 3. Bridge Of Light is good but it’s very unknown which could go against it. You Make Me Sick is the worst one but it might just be too bad.
There You Go is very good for what it is. It’s no Pink fan’s favourite Pink song but it might interest casual voters. I mean, I’m biased but I find a lot of the music by most of the artists involved to be on a par with There You Go, I feel some posters may prefer RnB Pink over pop rock Pink.
Yeah I'd go with TYG too.
'There You Go' seems the best choice. It's not even a bad song, it's just not what people are really here for with P!nk, and it is somewhat known among chart fans that it's her first single, so I think all that could work in its favour compared to other AFs who have to pick songs that are bad and unfamiliar.
I’ve put There You Go forward for this round.
There You Go is definitely not a bottom 3 Pink song for me!
Easily one of my favourites in that poll so she got my vote
So this is all we can pick from for the next round.
P!nk
#82 – Won’t Back Down [Eminem]
#88 – Can We Pretend [Cash Cash]
#103 – Heartbreak Down
It’s a bit rubbish really. I don’t like this round at all. We could have had Bad Influence but we already have. I might not have used if I’d known it had charted because I don’t have any access to too 200 charts and it didn’t go top 100.
What does everyone think? I don’t think it matters, there’s nothing amazing there and there’s a good chance this will be Pink’s last round.
'Heartbreak Down' is my favourite there, would most likely get my vote! I guess 'Can We Pretend' would be the most known out of the three.
A few other AFs have crap choices too (or no choice) so don’t lose hope yet!
Can We Pretend seems like the best option here. I loooove Won’t Back Down but no way is an Eminem song an option here
Can We Pretend would be my pick, and it'd be likely to feature in my votes too
I love Won’t Back Down!!
I think the Eminem song has to be out. Buzzjack at large will not go for it.
I love Can We Pretend and it is the best known but I don’t remember it getting a good reception. Heartbreak Down is a bit more unknown and closer to classic Pink but people may just call it MOR Pink.
I’m not sure. Convince me, people.
I think peoples major gripe with Can We Pretend at first (or mine anyway) was that it wasn’t a Pink song, rather a Cash Cash song with Pink vocals that was for some reason on her album. It was jarring in comparison to the rest of the album and didn’t fit - but as a single it’s a great song.
It’s well known in Australia A basic feel good dance song + Pink vocals is a sure fire radio hit here lol
'Can We Pretend' was incredibly average I felt. I find it hard to imagine many people wanting to vote it unless they have no better options.
'Heartbreak Down' is definitely better I think, and I feel like it might be better known through being on her Greatest Hits?
I had to remind myself how 'Won't Back Down' sounds - it's my favourite of the 3, but yeah an Eminem song probably wouldn't be a good idea.
In retrospect, sorry for pushing for 'Bad Influence'; I obviously had no idea of this theme (or that it made the top 200)
I think can we pretend would be our best option here. Its more recent and was performed on tour last year
Heartbreak down... Maybe, but I fear its more unknown.
Im really torn between the two, but my gut says can we pretend
Heartbreak Down gets my vote here and almost certainly in round 5
If Secrets is eligible that would 100% get my vote! It was my favourite single from that era
Update:
Also wouldn’t Hurts 2B Human and Love You Anyway be eligible?
This opens things up a bit. Mainly to more recent Pink, which I don’t think non Pink stans on Buzzjack are here for, but it’s better than nothing.
We have until 6pm to make our decision. What does everyone think?
It might be worth querying about 'Glitter in the Air', it may have been a radio single in America but perhaps the Grammy performance and subsequent download release of it will make it eligible?
That said, 'Can We Pretend' may still have a bigger reach.
Glitter in the air is a good choice
Ooo i love Secrets that would be a great choice
Dear Mr President is amazing, I’m shocked that wasn’t a massive hit! It’s definitely one of the most well remembered songs from that era for sure. Either go with that or Secrets for a more recent effort
Yes
She’ll likely be getting her 6th vote from me
So we need a love ballad album track.
The first things I can think of are Love Song and Wild Hearts Can’t Be Broken. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Surely 'Glitter in the Air' would be perfect if it wasn't a 'proper' single?
I’m still kind of hoping to keep Glitter In The Air for a specific round, though you’re right, it is perfect.
Her best ballad is I Don’t Believe You but alas, that was a single.
The Great Escape would definitely get my vote for this round but I don’t know how popular it is with others.
Yeah I was thinking about 'I Don't Believe You' too; beautiful song which could have been perfect for a ballad round if it wasn't limited to album tracks.
'Courage' maybe? The Sia association could work in its favour?
OK my thoughts...
Long way to happy
The Great escape
Wild hearts can't be broken
🤔
Would Runaway count?? That's one of my favourite Pink album tracks!
Runaway or Long Way To Happy
One of my favourite tracks by P!nk is 'Run'. But I don't think that's popular enough at all! </3
Just so you know 'Runaway' would be fine as a ballad, but I wouldn't say 'Long Way To Happy' would be eligible, I'm afraid.
But 'Runaway' would be a v solid choice!
Dear Diary is my favourite P!nk ballad, but then I'm not too familiar with her albums post Mizundastood
I’m Not Dead is her best, please listen to it.
So Runaway is eligible? A strong possibility then.
I did consider runaway but wasn't sure how popular it was on here 🤔
My only quibble with Runaway is that I’m not sure it’s a ballad but if it’s had the ok.....
Does anyone else have any strong feelings towards another track before we make a decision?
Long Way To Happy or Run get my vote.
Is ‘Is This Thing On’ considered a ballad?
'Runaway' was a fantastic discovery! I must check out P!nk's earlier albums!
Can everyone viewing this thread that hasn’t listened to I’m Not Dead yet, please immediately do so?
Phew, I thought we could have gone in that round!
So-a song that ended an era. Our choices are:
1) You Make Me Sick-no
2) Family Portrait-contender
3) Last To Know-don’t think Buzzjack will go for it
4) Leave Me Alone (I’m Lonely)-contender but not sure if it’s well liked
5) I Don’t Believe You-contender but could be unknown
6) f***in Perfect-contender
After that I’m not sure what the closing singles for her eras were
I’m thinking Family Portrait could be our best bet!
Family Portrait is one of her absolute best so if it has a chance to shine I say push it! Plus lyrically it will stand out in the playlist among the other songs. I do love IDBY and Last to Know as well though.
Glitter in the air ended Funhouse...?
TTAL = Are we all we are
Beautiful trauma = Secrets
H2BH (think we can safely say she's done with that album!) = love me anyway
I think our best bet may be Perfect
Oh, just seen the radio only rule. I have no idea what is classed as radio only. I do have a physical copy of GITA if that helps
You read my mind, perhaps we should set up a quick poll between those two
Family Portrait would really stand out!
I think it would perhaps really work if you send that.
Family portrait is a great one, damn from what I'm seeing this is going to be a TOUGH round!
It's going to be very hard from here on in.
So, finally a free choice round!
It’s a double round elimination to get to the final 10 but I’m also very aware Pink could fall here (she did last year)
I think we need one of the big guns: Who Knew, So What and Just Like A Pill.
I’m thinking Who Knew.
Who Knew is sublime My all-time favourite Pink song and definitely a fantastic choice! I don't see Pink getting too much further either unfortunately so at least here she can have a massive round before she goes!
Has U + Ur Hand been used already?
I feel like WK and JLAP are end game contenders so I think taking a slight risk with So What in order to get further. It seems a bit defeatist having the attitude "oh she won't last long anyway let's just use her best now".
I love all 3 of those and at this point I really can't call which one would do better!
I think they'd all do similarly and be safe!
It’s not a ‘go out with a High’ attitude because I hope she gets through!
But I do have fore knowledge of what rounds are coming so I know we can afford to use a big hit now.
^ fair enough I still think it would be wise to hold onto WK and JLAP for as long as possible.
#senduandurhand
I agree with who knew. And if we do get further than we expect then we still have a few big songs we could send, especially just like a pill and so what
I'm happy for who knew to be sent next 😊
We can definitely leave Just Like A Pill until last! I feel Who Knew stands the best chance of getting us to the next round and even if we don’t make it, it simply cannot be blamed on the song choice.
I thought Please Dont Leave Me would be a pretty good option for P!NK am I wrong?
I adore Who Knew, would absolutely get a vote from me
Who Knew totally!!!
Who Knew was 1st in my votes! Meaning this is the 4th round in total where she has been my #1 and 4th consecutive in my Top 2 *.*
9/9 P!nk [6-7-1-8-6-1-2-1-1]
Even my own AF didn't get this much love from me oops
I’m so glad we sent Who Knew, it’s getting a pretty good reception and deservedly so! I think it may be my ultimate Pink favourite but I think now was the right time to send it.
Who Knew is one of my favourite songs and very special to me, so I’m very pleased it’s had its moment to shine in this contest.
I was so down that you may not have sent 'Who Knew' because of this comment..
We always knew we’d go with Who Knew at some point, it’s just the themes have been quite limiting! Pink has so many great songs that people know but we can’t use them all. I hope she makes it in to the final 10, she deserves it so much.
A bside, bonus track or remix...
Heartbreaker springs to mind?!?!
That’s a definite contender. Tbh I can’t think of much that people would know. TTAL had quite a few like
Is This Thing On?
Run
Timebomb
The King Is Dead But The Queen Is Alive
Also there’s always Fingers
I don’t mind submitting to your judgement on this one. What does everyone think?
Fingers or Heartbreaker would be good!
It's a hard round because so many may be unknown songs to people, but if they listen to the play lists then we could do well sending Heartbreaker. It's always been known as one of her best besides
If you wanted to go for a remix, the Kat Krazy remix of Beautiful Trauma is good and a bop!
Timebomb is my fav from that list!
So this is the first eligible track that came to my mind - it was actually one of my favourites from the album on release.
What is everyone's views on it?
Is This Thing On? and Run are my top 2 picks! I love both (can only vote 5 so I can't guarantee points, but they'd def be in contention!)
I think run would be a good choice.
Kat Krazy Remix of Beautiful Trauma is a nice option to have, I think I’d prefer it to any of the bonus tracks suggested, but having said that I haven’t heard a lot of them in quite a while. Another option of a remix could be the Cash Cash remix of What About Us?
Would people be happy if we sent that remix of Beautiful Trauma then? My concern in this round is people not bothering to listen to the playlist and other artists having singles they can use. At least people know BT?
I think as it's getting tight, it'd be your best bet and have an advantage over others as people know the original song already at least.
Ok so unless there’s any major objections in the next hour or so, I’ll send that.
Please try and vote for Pink guys. She’s only got my vote so far.
I feel like this is the end
There are many great songs on offer in the round and I hope Pink will make my final 5.
I am listening to a few songs before submitting my votes.
^same
but sending Beautiful Drama was a good call, no one was even gonna bother listening if you had sent a random deluxe track even if good
I was undecided between Madonna, Pink and Katy Perry, unfortunately Katy Perry lost out.
Pink is the latest evictee
Yeah, I’ve put my thoughts into that thread. At least it was a round with a crap theme so we can blame that.
We were always going to struggle in that round. I reckon we should've sent in Hooker and gone out with that 🤭
Pink progressed from her previous result which is positive.
I don’t think Pink had any better options tbh, which is a big shame but at the very least you managed to send (and slay with) Who Knew last round
Too bad, I agree the theme was crap and should have been more limited, either B-sides/deluxe tracks or remixes but not both, and definitely not singles
but overall the themes are very messy almost each round
I'm pleased she managed to get this far. Its a shame we didn't get the chance to send JLAP or So what in further rounds but thats ok.
Maybe after the singles rate, we'll have a B-side rate
Also, for the next round, collaborations, we would've probably sent Just give me a reason. The competition is so tough now, a lot of big artists with some big hits left to send. Good luck to all AFs left
Yeah Just Give Me A Reason is an obvious one although it does have its haters.
Knowing this place, she might have been better off with Lady Marmalade...
There was just something about Revenge with me, it felt very old skool and we need more of that.
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