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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ YTD T40 Albums (with estimated sales)

Posted by: vidcapper Aug 31 2019, 07:37 AM

V2 :

YTD Sales : Please read these guidelines before you request sales estimates, it makes my task a lot easier.

1. Be specific - please name the artist and title for each entry you'd like an estimate for.
2. I log sales for all albums that have charted this year, but only update those that have sold enough to reach my 200 position tracking range
3. If an album isn't in the current Top 100, I won't be able to update its sales until Tues. Also, please don't ask about ex-T100 albums too often - once a month at most)
4. Remember to check the thread before requesting estimates - they may already have been answered. Also, no more than half-a-dozen requests at a time, thanks.
5. Please note my figures are combined sales & streams, and since I have no way of separating them, I cannot provide a split.
6. While I am no longer estimating singles sales, I can provide YTD singles positions from C+, and I am still maintaining my sales archive based on published figures (PM me if you want to see it)

Thank you.

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Albums

Pos - LW - YTD - Total - Artist - Title - New - Hst
1 - 1 - 431,500 - 2,060,500 - Motion Picture Cast Recording - Greatest Showman - 04/01/18 - 1
2 - 2 - 368,750 - 368,750 - Lewis Capaldi - Divinely Uninspired To A Hellish Extent - 30/05/19 - 1
3 - 3 - 333,000 - 333,000 - Ed Sheeran - No 6 Collaborations Project - 25/07/19 - 1
4 - 4 - 270,500 - 962,000 - George Ezra - Staying At Tamara's - 05/04/18 - 2
5 - 5 - 264,250 - 474,750 - Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (OST) - 02/11/18 - 3
6 - 6 - 261,000 - 261,000 - Billie Eilish - When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? - 11/04/19 - 1
7 - 7 - 251,500 - 251,500 - Ariana Grande - Thank U, Next - 21/02/19 - 1
8 - 8 - 205,500 - 477,250 - Cast Recording ft Lady Gaga - A Star Is Born - 18/10/18 - 3
9 - 9 - 191,250 - 191,250 - Tom Walker - What A Time To Be Alive - 14/03/19 - 1
10 - 10 - 168,250 - 3,381,250 - Ed Sheeran - ÷ - 16/03/17 - 6
11 - 11 - 158,750 - 363,750 - Jess Glynne - Always In Between - 25/10/18 - 5
12 - 12 - 148,000 - 270,250 - Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop - 29/11/18 - 5
13 - 13 - 139,250 - 2,197,500 - Queen - Greatest Hits I, II & III (Platinum Coll.) - 25/11/00 - 8
14 - 14 - 138,500 - 138,500 - Pink - Hurts 2B Human - 09/05/19 - 1
15 - 15 - 135,000 - 214,000 - Billie Eilish - Don't Smile At Me - 19/07/18 - 12
16 - 16 - 132,250 - 519,000 - Dua Lipa - Dua Lipa - 15/06/17 - 9
17 - 17 - 125,500 - 125,500 - Dave - Psychodrama - 21/03/19 - 1
18 - 18 - 120,250 - 411,500 - Elton John - Diamonds - 23/11/17 - 6
19 - 19 - 112,000 - 393,750 - Post Malone - Beerbongs & Bentleys - 10/05/18 - 13
20 - 20 - 109,500 - 409,750 - Drake - Scorpion - 12/07/18 - 16
21 - 21 - 106,000 - 106,000 - Jack Savoretti - Singing To Strangers - 28/03/19 - 1
22 - 22 - 97,500 - 146,750 - Clean Bandit - What Is Love? - 13/12/18 - 9
23 - 23 - 97,500 - 472,000 - Motion Picture Cast Recording - Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again - 26/07/18 - 7
24 - 24 - 95,750 - 95,750 - Bruce Springsteen - Western Stars - 27/06/19 - 1
25 - 25 - 94,500 - 325,750 - Take That - Odyssey - 06/12/18 - 3
26 - 26 - 84,500 - 143,500 - Rita Ora - Phoenix - 06/12/18 - 16
27 - 28 - 83,250 - 4,869,750 - Abba - Gold - Greatest Hits - 03/10/92 - 27
28 - 27 - 82,500 - 240,750 - Olly Murs - You Know I Know - 22/11/18 - 10
29 - 29 - 82,000 - 2,256,500 - Eminem - Curtain Call - Greatest Hits - 10/12/05 - 27
30 - 30 - 81,750 - 1,087,000 - Oasis - Time Flies : 1994-2009 - 26/06/10 - 25
31 - 31 - 81,000 - 1,650,250 - Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - 26/02/77 - 25
32 - 32 - 78,250 - 271,500 - Ariana Grande - Sweetener - 30/08/18 - 16
33 - 33 - 78,000 - 3,495,000 - Ed Sheeran - X - 05/07/14 - 18
34 - 34 - 75,250 - 75,250 - AJ Tracey - AJ Tracey - 21/02/19 - 3
35 - 35 - 74,500 - 146,500 - 1975 - A Brief Inquiry Into Online Relationships - 13/12/18 - 10
36 - 36 - 72,250 - 72,250 - BTS - Map of the Soul: Persona - 25/04/19 - 1
37 - 37 - 71,750 - 441,750 - David Bowie - Legacy - 24/11/16 - 27
38 - 38 - 70,000 - 2,546,250 - Bob Marley - Legend - 19/05/84 - 22
39 - 40 - 68,250 - 663,000 - Killers - Direct Hits - 23/11/13 - 5
40 - 39 - 67,500 - 214,000 - Xxxtentacion - ? - 29/03/18 - 31

Posted by: slowdown73 Sep 1 2019, 07:20 PM

How much has Kylie and Sigala sold? Cheers

Posted by: vidcapper Sep 2 2019, 12:21 PM

QUOTE(slowdown73 @ Sep 1 2019, 08:20 PM) *
How much has Kylie and Sigala sold? Cheers


65k, 55k

Posted by: vidcapper Sep 3 2019, 07:26 AM

Updated

Posted by: Steve201 Sep 3 2019, 07:59 AM

13 of the top 40 are best of or greatest hits albums!

Posted by: 777666jason Sep 3 2019, 05:33 PM

So top 40 was a little high for taylor to debut but she should probably make it in a few weeks

Posted by: Jez Sep 4 2019, 02:34 AM

Oasis- definitely Maybe
Oasis- morning Glory

Thanks

Posted by: vidcapper Sep 5 2019, 02:13 PM

QUOTE(Jez @ Sep 4 2019, 03:34 AM) *
Oasis- definitely Maybe
Oasis- morning Glory

Thanks


4553.5k, 2210k

Posted by: Robbie Sep 5 2019, 03:07 PM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Sep 3 2019, 08:59 AM) *
13 of the top 40 are best of or greatest hits albums!
It's a perfect example of how streaming benefits "sales" of best of albums, especially heritage acts. Streaming is the main reason why the album chart is full of Best Of or Greatest Hits albums.

Posted by: Steve201 Sep 5 2019, 03:13 PM

Yeh that sounds the point I was trying to make - a lot of sales from streams go to GHs these days!

Posted by: vidcapper Sep 6 2019, 04:48 AM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Sep 5 2019, 04:13 PM) *
Yeh that sounds the point I was trying to make - a lot of sales from streams go to GHs these days!


But shouldn't streams go to parent albums, rather than GH ones?

Posted by: Bjork Sep 6 2019, 05:54 AM

they should go to the album you're streaming it from... and it shouldn't count for the album charts if you stream from a playlist

Posted by: vidcapper Sep 6 2019, 06:14 AM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Sep 6 2019, 06:54 AM) *
they should go to the album you're streaming it from... and it shouldn't count for the album charts if you stream from a playlist


Playlists are the bane of the charts, nowadays...

Posted by: Bjork Sep 6 2019, 07:19 AM

and will never understand how you search for Elton John - Sleeping with the Past album, you stream Sacrifice, but that counts for his Diamonds Greatest Hits... makes zero sense to me...

Posted by: Robbie Sep 6 2019, 07:54 AM

QUOTE(vidcapper @ Sep 6 2019, 05:48 AM) *
But shouldn't streams go to parent albums, rather than GH ones?
If the track is on both a parent album and a best of / Greatest Hits album then the stream counts towards both albums. If the track features on more than one Greatest Hits / Best Of type album the stream will count towards the sale of either the album with the highest sale (I read that as meaning paid for sales) for that week or a hits album nominated in advance by the label.

Posted by: Bjork Sep 6 2019, 08:03 AM

no wonder why the top 40 is plagued by the same greatest hits for months, Elton, Queen, Fleetwood Mac...

Posted by: Robbie Sep 6 2019, 08:15 AM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Sep 6 2019, 09:03 AM) *
no wonder why the top 40 is plagued by the same greatest hits for months, Elton, Queen, Fleetwood Mac...
Yup. The heritage acts that attract the most streams are usually the same acts that have a greatest hits album in the top 40. Unless the chart rules change on how streams are allocated to an album (or unless a form of ACR is introduced for album streams) then those same albums are likely to be hanging around the charts for years to come.

Posted by: vidcapper Sep 6 2019, 09:36 AM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Sep 6 2019, 09:03 AM) *
no wonder why the top 40 is plagued by the same greatest hits for months, Elton, Queen, Fleetwood Mac...


To be fair, those are classics that've been charting since before even CD's were invented, let alone streaming... wink.gif

Posted by: Bjork Sep 6 2019, 09:42 AM

sure but now they're charting cos of the wrong reasons
ABBA-Gold should chart if people stream that album, not if people stream songs from the parent studio album and still count for Gold or if they listen to random ABBA tracks on playlists

Posted by: vidcapper Sep 6 2019, 09:43 AM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Sep 6 2019, 10:42 AM) *
sure but now they're charting cos of the wrong reasons
ABBA-Gold should chart if people stream that album, not if people stream songs from the parent studio album and still count for Gold or if they listen to random ABBA tracks on playlists


Agreed.

Posted by: zeus555 Sep 8 2019, 03:20 PM

Guys -- I realise that it can be annoying, that certain 'Hits' and 'Best Of' Albums are seemingly forever in the UK Top 100.

However, if you look, they are not just in the Streaming Chart. They also stay in the Download and Physical Album Charts,
Week, after Week, after Week.

ABBA were doing very well with 'Hits' Albums way before Streaming, which is reflected in their 4 UK No.1 'Hits' Albums
- 'Greatest Hits', (1976), 'Greatest Hits Vol.2', (1979 & 1980), 'The Singles - The First Ten Years', (1982), and 'ABBA Gold',
(1992, 1999 - 3 times, and 2008). As far as I'm aware, Streaming only became a component of the UK Album Chart in
March 2015.

Queen, Elton John and Fleetwood Mac, have had big UK 'Hits' Albums for Decades. Long before Streaming was ever heard of.
As have The Beatles and Rod Stewart.

Also, I always collect Charts so that I can compare those from different Decades. I've just checked and having a lot of 'Hits'
Albums in the Top 40 of the Year, is nothing 'New'. I looked at the Top 40 Best Sellers for 1975, 1976 and 1977 and those
Year End UK Charts were full of 'Hits' Albums. So, it is not unique that the Top 40 Albums of 2019 has a lot of Compilations
in it. It may well be due to Streaming now, but it was down to Physical Sales in past Decades, and the results were often
the same - numerous 'Best Of's' in the Year End Top 40...

5 of the Top 10 Albums of 1975 were Compilations. 6 of the UK's Top 10 Albums of 1976 were Compilations. 5 of the Top 10
Albums of 1977 were Compilations. Only 1 of the Top 10 Albums of 2019 is a Compilation - the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' OST.
So, this Year has hardly been dominated by 'Hits' Albums, to the extent of many Years in previous Decades...

Posted by: Bjork Sep 9 2019, 12:08 PM

^but we're saying different things, of course people have always bought compilations, sure about that
what we were saying is that the occ has a weird bizarre way to calculate album streams and if you stream a track of a studio album it also gives streaming points to the GH, which makes no sense

Posted by: Steve201 Sep 9 2019, 08:26 PM

It should be the album you stream it off that counts as a sale in the album chart only not both. I realise that the Best Of will still then ultimately get most sales because these come up first when searching on Apple anyway but it shouldn't be both.

I compile lists of songs of the year from watching totp on bbc4 but purposely make sure I add the track from the actual album released from that year and not the GHs version.

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