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post 4th May 2024, 11:53 AM
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I feel bad for Dua, she's the bestest UK popstar right now

But don't think doing bad on streaming will affect her chances at #1 on albums, it was all in the hands of physicals
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post 4th May 2024, 11:56 AM
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It is what it is! Oh well.

I hope she can pull it back and not end up having a Witness the next era!
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post 4th May 2024, 12:01 PM
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I guess Future Nostalgia was her imperial phase then, and that she's peaked commercially. Not that she still won't be capable of getting hits of course, but it seems like she won't get back to that level of success. I don't really know what went wrong for her, to my ears it's a solid pop album with some strong songs, but it obviously just hasn't clicked with the public as well as it should have. Releasing three pre-album singles was definitely a bad idea.
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post 4th May 2024, 12:06 PM
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I think having three top 10 hits on the album before it's out might have been a smart move for streaming longevity (as you need three decent sized hits on one album if it's gonna have any legs whatsoever), and of course we've got Glastonbury still to come.

I have to say the album is a real disappointment, and I really liked all three singles. It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens from here
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post 4th May 2024, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Rob10 @ 4th May 2024, 12:40 PM) *
Taylor will do 35-40k this week in total. Will Dua sell around 30k physicals? She will need to to be #1.


I got it Dua 37k Taylor 28k
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post 4th May 2024, 12:47 PM
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Disappointing numbers indeed.😔

The only blessing in disguise from this could be that maybe will get a new album as soon as next year, because I don’t see this era having longevity with already three singles out there!!!
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post 4th May 2024, 12:52 PM
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there's clearly no fourth hit on that album as it stands but I expect there'll be a deluxe edition of some kind before the year-end
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post 4th May 2024, 01:04 PM
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Spotify Chart Update (03/05)

newright.png 01 01 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 898,213
newright.png 02 02 Hozier – Too Sweet 695,377
newright.png 03 03 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me 546,088
newup.png 04 05 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 526,591 [*PEAK*]
newdown.png 05 04 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 523,114
newright.png 06 06 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 467,186
newright.png 07 07 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 460,782
newright.png 08 08 Kendrick Lamar – euphoria 419,162
newup.png 09 10 Dasha – Austin 396,573
newup.png 10 11 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 383,171

newdown.png 11 09 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 383,126
newup.png 12 13 Djo – End of Beginning 347,001
newdown.png 13 12 Mark Ambor – Belong Together 335,682
newup.png 14 15 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love) 297,122
newup.png 15 22 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY 296,302 [*PEAK*]
newdown.png 16 14 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start 291,235
newup.png 17 19 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 278,035
newdown.png 18 17 Taylor Swift – Down Bad 272,247
newdown.png 19 16 Lay Bankz – Tell Ur Girlfriend 268,686
newup.png 20 23 Beyoncé – TEXAS HOLD 'EM 256,708

newup.png 21 24 Benson Boone – Slow It Down 255,312 [*PEAK*]
newdown.png 22 18 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 253,695
newup.png 23 40 Dua Lipa – Illusion 249,283
newdown.png 24 20 Taylor Swift – Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? 246,628
newdown.png 25 21 Taylor Swift – So Long, London 236,893
newup.png 26 28 Tate McRae – greedy 232,365
newdown.png 27 26 Taylor Swift – My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 221,874
newdown.png 28 25 Taylor Swift, Florence + The Machine – Florida!!! (feat. Florence + The Machine) 221,262
newdown.png 29 27 Taylor Swift – Guilty as Sin? 221,000
newup.png 30 31 Badger, Natasha Bedingfield – These Words 220,734

newdown.png 31 29 Taylor Swift – But Daddy I Love Him 217,547
newdown.png 32 30 Taylor Swift – The Tortured Poets Department 216,882
newdown.png 33 32 Bryson Tiller – Whatever She Wants 213,092
newright.png 34 34 Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar – Like That 212,075
newne.png 35 NE Dua Lipa – These Walls 205,417 [*PEAK*]
newup.png 36 38 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 204,246
newup.png 37 78 Dua Lipa – Training Season 196,243
newdown.png 38 37 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 193,088
newup.png 39 92 Dua Lipa – Houdini 192,941
newdown.png 40 33 SZA – Saturn 191,699

newdown.png 41 36 Drake – Push Ups 190,112
newdown.png 44 42 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas) 177,845
newup.png 47 50 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited 166,302
newdown.png 49 43 Good Neighbours – Home 164,528
newright.png 51 51 Jungle – Back On 74 157,533
newup.png 52 63 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait 155,504 [*PEAK*]
newdown.png 64 54 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen 138,721
newup.png 65 72 NewEra – Birds In The Sky 136,985
newdown.png 75 66 Tyla, Gunna, Skillibeng – Jump 129,261
newdown.png 77 67 Daya – Hide Away 127,201
newup.png 78 93 Amy Winehouse – Back To Black 126,026
newup.png 80 87 Travis Scott, Playboi Carti – FE!N (feat. Playboi Carti) 125,922
newup.png 84 95 Pozer – Malicious Intentions 125,376
newup.png 88 89 Bakar, Summer Walker – Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker) 123,457
newup.png 90 91 Rudimental, Skepsis, Charlotte Plank, Riko Dan – Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan) 122,556
newup.png 97 116 Headie One, Stormzy, Tay Keith – Cry No More (feat. Stormzy & Tay Keith) 119,552
newup.png 99 106 Yeat – If We Being Rëal 119,318 [*PEAK*]

newup.png 103 107 Amy Winehouse – Tears Dry On Their Own 115,992
newup.png 108 125 Jaxomy, Agatino Romero, Raffaella Carrà – Pedro 114,494
newdown.png 117 113 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only 109,580
newdown.png 120 109 d4vd – Feel It - From The Original Series “Invincible” 109,009
newup.png 122 145 Perrie – Forget About Us 108,805
newdown.png 129 120 Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, Tiësto, Dido, W&W, Dimitri Vegas, Like Mike – Thank You (Not So Bad) 105,857
newne.png 157 NE Becky Hill – Right Here 97,892 [*PEAK*]
newne.png 164 NE Zerb, The Chainsmokers, Ink – Addicted 96,641 [*PEAK*]
newdown.png 170 147 Alex Warren – Before You Leave Me 95,290
newdown.png 172 123 Gracie Abrams – Risk 94,999
newdown.png 192 165 Tems – Love Me JeJe 90,917
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post 4th May 2024, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Rob10 @ 4th May 2024, 11:58 AM) *
Bad for Dua. She does not have a real solid fanbase. She has great label support from the start hence radio and streaming have backed her. This is the start of the end unfortunately of being hugely successful. Most people I know think her songs all sound the same now and that she lacks charisma to a certain extent.

The album will sell poorly after week 1.


I 100% agree. Very little charisma, qirh samwy sounding songs= recipe foe disastee. Also this album should have been released MONTHS ago. A lot of this is on her/ the label. Huge albums have been out now, plus any hype for this album has long since gone.
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post 4th May 2024, 01:08 PM
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Spotify Saturday Special: Estimated OCC Rules Top 50 Update

newright.png 01 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso
newright.png 02 Hozier – Too Sweet
newright.png 03 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me
newup.png 04 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy)
newdown.png 05 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)
newright.png 06 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things
newright.png 07 Kendrick Lamar – euphoria
newup.png 08 Dasha – Austin
newup.png 09 Teddy Swims – Lose Control
newdown.png 10 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart

newdown.png 11 Mark Ambor – Belong Together
newup.png 12 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love)
newup.png 13 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY
newdown.png 14 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start
newdown.png 15 Taylor Swift – Down Bad
newdown.png 16 Lay Bankz – Tell Ur Girlfriend
newup.png 17 Benson Boone – Slow It Down
newdown.png 18 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe!
newup.png 19 Dua Lipa – Illusion
newright.png 20 Noah Kahan – Stick Season †

newup.png 21 Badger, Natasha Bedingfield – These Words
newdown.png 22 Bryson Tiller – Whatever She Wants
newright.png 23 Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar – Like That
newne.png 24 Dua Lipa – These Walls
newup.png 25 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten
newup.png 26 Dua Lipa – Training Season *
newdown.png 27 SZA – Saturn
newdown.png 28 Drake – Push Ups
newdown.png 29 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas)
newup.png 30 Djo – End of Beginning †

newup.png 31 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited
newdown.png 32 Good Neighbours – Home
newright.png 33 Jungle – Back On 74
newup.png 34 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait
newup.png 35 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada †
newdown.png 36 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen
newup.png 37 NewEra – Birds In The Sky
newdown.png 38 Tyla, Gunna, Skillibeng – Jump
newup.png 39 Beyoncé – TEXAS HOLD 'EM †
newup.png 40 Amy Winehouse – Back To Black

newup.png 41 Travis Scott, Playboi Carti – FE!N (feat. Playboi Carti)
newup.png 42 Pozer – Malicious Intentions
newup.png 43 Bakar, Summer Walker – Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker)
newup.png 44 Rudimental, Skepsis, Charlotte Plank, Riko Dan – Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan)
newup.png 45 Headie One, Stormzy, Tay Keith – Cry No More (feat. Stormzy & Tay Keith)
newup.png 46 Yeat – If We Being Rëal
newup.png 47 Tate McRae – greedy †
newup.png 48 Amy Winehouse – Tears Dry On Their Own
newup.png 49 Jaxomy, Agatino Romero, Raffaella Carrà – Pedro
newdown.png 50 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only

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post 4th May 2024, 01:09 PM
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I’m not surprised for Dua. It’s a decent album but very beige. No major standouts unlike future nostalgia, where every song sounded like a hit.
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post 4th May 2024, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ 4th May 2024, 01:52 PM) *
there's clearly no fourth hit on that album as it stands but I expect there'll be a deluxe edition of some kind before the year-end


Really? I think a few songs could make decent singles. "Whatcha Doing", "Falling Forever" & "Maria" could all do well.

I also think "Happy For You" could be a sleeper hit as well. A nice change of pace from usual Dua.

Fingers crossed some of the songs go viral on TikTok.

I think they should do a 4th single with a significant feature. Perhaps "Happy For You (feat. Ariana Grande)" (Her vocals in the chorus give me slight Ari vibes) or something.

Then release a deluxe version later this year with a big mid-tempo ballad-type smash.

Whilst the initial numbers are disappointing, we could see the album hold on better than expected in streaming and in the long-term become a success with more singles/a deluxe version etc.

Also I've had Sabrina's "Espresso" play every single time I finish going through Dua's album. laugh.gif Not that I'm complaining. wub.gif


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post 4th May 2024, 01:10 PM
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Interesting that the 'VHS' version of 'Million Dollar Baby' hasn't charted over here yet, it's at #30 in the US.
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post 4th May 2024, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(Jessie Where @ 4th May 2024, 12:56 PM) *
It is what it is! Oh well.

I hope she can pull it back and not end up having a Witness the next era!


You missed the memo - this IS her doing a Witness!!
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post 4th May 2024, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(Long Dong Silver @ 4th May 2024, 02:12 PM) *
You missed the memo - this IS her doing a Witness!!


I was going to say, Prism had two of Katy’s biggest hits!
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post 4th May 2024, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(No Sleeep @ 4th May 2024, 02:28 PM) *
I was going to say, Prism had two of Katy’s biggest hits!


Exactly!!! Plus had two HUGE unreleased songs on it, plus Birthday could have easly smashed - see Maroon 5- comin aftee two hits, plus better marketing!!
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post 4th May 2024, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Long Dong Silver @ 4th May 2024, 02:30 PM) *
Exactly!!! Plus had two HUGE unreleased songs on it, plus Birthday could have easly smashed - see Maroon 5- comin aftee two hits, plus better marketing!!


Katy ruined all chances of "Birthday" smashing with the music video. sad.gif Her music videos were a big part of her songs doing so well but the "Birthday" music video just wasn't it. The lyric video has 4x more views than the actual video.

I remember being excited her team picked it as the next single as it was a smash in the making and following the momentum of "Dark Horse" it should've been an easy top 10 hit. I was hoping she would've went all out with a sexy music video and even doing a Marilyn Monroe tribute on the part she whispers Happy Birthday.

Instead we got a video of Katy's humour.... sob.gif
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post 4th May 2024, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(Envoirment @ 4th May 2024, 02:09 PM) *
Really? I think a few songs could make decent singles. "Whatcha Doing", "Falling Forever" & "Maria" could all do well.

I also think "Happy For You" could be a sleeper hit as well. A nice change of pace from usual Dua.


They’re average album tracks at best though.
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QUOTE(Envoirment @ 4th May 2024, 02:38 PM) *
Katy ruined all chances of "Birthday" smashing with the music video. sad.gif Her music videos were a big part of her songs doing so well but the "Birthday" music video just wasn't it. The lyric video has 4x more views than the actual video.

I remember being excited her team picked it as the next single as it was a smash in the making and following the momentum of "Dark Horse" it should've been an easy top 10 hit. I was hoping she would've went all out with a sexy music video and even doing a Marilyn Monroe tribute on the part she whispers Happy Birthday.

Instead we got a video of Katy's humour.... sob.gif


A Marilyn Monroe video would have been perfect!!

Imagine a run of:

Roar
Dark Horse
Legendary Lovers
Walking on Air
Birthday

It would have rivalled Teenage Dream! Then she mase huge mistakes with singles with Witness too...
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post 4th May 2024, 02:15 PM
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I don’t know why she didn’t put the Barbie single on the album? It sounds relatively similar and was a huge hit, it would have definitely helped streaming numbers and kept it around a bit longer from people listening to it. She’d also have a smash from this album on top.
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