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Posted by: Mr.X Nov 25 2020, 11:14 PM

Hey Buzzjack Spice Gang (wouldnt that be a good moniker for the fandom?!) wub.gif

The girls have such a small discography, it is always interesting to know what else they have done that never got to see the (proper) light of day. Plus, we know that the fandom would like to have more unreleased music at some point acknowleged by the group in an official capacity.

Can we compile a list of all the songs that we know exist and demos out there, to keep it all in one place? I will keep adding more as they come in and as you reply here.

SPICE GIRLS

UNRELEASED DEMOS

Touch era

Is This Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE9yuvHyXog
Walking on Air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFsHE8yXlOQ
Do You Think About Me? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhM0eSX24G0
Just One of Those Days
Sugar & Spice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5VN_ijNWCU
Melody of Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kFZxxOpBco
Don't Break My Heart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-UAq5dpiMY
Don't Wanna Be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPVg1GKRIPQ
Don't Look Back
We're Gonna Make It Happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUK5qqqahtk
Take Me Away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFv4XF0XkKM
I Want You, I Need You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7P1wc-3Xqw

Unreleased Spice Era Demos

Pleasin' Me
Likely Stories aka C U Next Tuesday (leaked, no longer available on YouTube)
Serial Killer
Seven Days
Perfect Vision https://youtu.be/0CHkO8ouWbo
Strong Enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovSXIS0Gl6Q
Overnight (1995 demo)*

Say You'll Be There (demo with the rap, confirmed in Mel C's book)
2 Become 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt99zH9-nNs

Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demos

Image & Likeness
Dingeling
Are You My Friend?

Leader of The Gang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Z0LbBETk0
Sound Off/Military Cadence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWxDsLfxaY

Leaked demos of Spiceworld era released tracks

Can't Stay Tonight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbEKx4MTkgQ

Unreleased Forever Demos

A Day In Your Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe-REZRxBAY
Right Back At Ya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtHITeqvrmc
Pain Proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQwCualJIrQ
Give You What You Want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtA5hVHzBLU
W.O.M.A.N. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJiNcFAtef4
Too Hot
Treasure
Go Go Go (clip leaked, no longer available on youtube)
Overnight (1999 demo)*
If Ya Do (recorded by Emma and Mel C with Jimmy Jam + Terry Lewis in Autumn 1998, mentioned by Emma Bunton)

Unreleased Greatest Hits demos

Spice Is Back
Angels

Unreleased GEM-era demos

Song for Her https://youtu.be/zPUTo1MQJ-c?si=_zVZv5G-FEiAKDv6
I Still Got It

OFFICIALLY RELEASED DEMOS

Spice25 era

Wannabe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPpwlviR7tY
Feed Your Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtanY3heMe8
Last Time Lover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbkNJOr1cOI
Love Thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfsN9CUR3LE
If You Can't Dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lduVNd5srBY
Who Do You Think You Are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXhYq2OSNQw

Spiceworld 25 era

Step To Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD7D_vZtfjU

Other non-era specific tracks

Boyfriend/girlfriend (duet with Blackstreet Boys, confirmed by a tape being found in Mel C's storage unit)

RUMOURED UNRELEASED TRACKS

1995 - 1996

Mentions of the following rumoured tracks were found on this website: http://spicechronology.atspace.com/spice.html

All We Need Is A Miracle
Hard To Kill
In Your Face
Inside Out
Expose

1997
Walk The Same Line http://spicechronology.atspace.com/spice.html

1998 - 2000
Holiday (cover)
Sisters Are Doing It For Themselves (cover)
Get Out Of Your Head
Saturday
Thank You
If Ya Do (featuring http://spicechronology.atspace.com/spice.html)


* Overnight is stated both as a 1995 Spice demo, and a 1999 Forever demo. Melanie C confirmed it was a track written and recorded by the group in her autobiography, and that it is about a sex worker. Biff mentioned in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7ylBooFrw that Overnight was written in 1995 during the first sessions he did with the band. However, he also posted a picture on his instagram with a 1999 demo tape which included a bunch of Forever demos, which included Overnight. Therefore, there might be two versions of the song, one with the 5-piece original band and one with the 4-piece 1999 line up of the band.


Emma Bunton

A Girl Like Me

Leaked demos of A Girl Like Me released songs
Been There, Done That https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCHwjdEhdkY

Leaked demos of A Girl Like Me unreleased songs
To Have And To Have Let Go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBom5JOH-bo

Unreleased/unleaked A Girl Like Me songs
Here And Now
I Depend On You
Just The Two Of Us (a.k.a. Two Of Us)
Let Them All Talk
Memory Lane
Passionate Witness
Reasons
Tu No Me Conoces
Window To Your Soul
No Love
Better Off Alone

Free Me

Leaked demos of released songs

Maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Q2XVUsmp0
Tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYt959Q_a9U
Something So Beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8EdO0iTpjU

Leaked demos of Free Me unreleased songs

Crazy Beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtExSunrGZw

Unreleased/unleaked Free Me songs

Addicted To You
All That I Want
Don’t Keep Me Holding On
Don’t Let Me Sleep (a.k.a. Sleep)
Everytime
I Do
I’ve Fallen In Love
Life's What You Make Of It
Never Gonna Make Me Fall
No Place Like My Home
One Thing I Know (later released by S Club 8)
This Is The Reason
The Last Time

Life in Mono

I’m Not Crying Over Yesterdays (leaked, inc in Life in Mono sampler album, no longer available on Youtube)
Undressing You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSYfrCD-uTI)

Demos of Life in Mono unreleased songs
Rhapsody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxWsSjsTcw
Crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAjOrGCNhRA
In Another Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWHVKplvlPg
Ladylike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK58N1uWM9s
Secrets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G255_OTjXJA
That’s What It Hurts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVvtVW58_IY

Unreleased/Unleaked Life in Mono songs

Fiesta D’Amore
Can’t See It
Love It When We Do It That Way
Mais Oui
Oh No
Sneaking Out Her Bed
September Song
Sex Ain’t Love
Totally Uncontrolable (later recorded by artist Paulini)
The Last Time
Bao En
Come Whatever
Disappear With You
Eyes Shut
Me And My A’more
O Que Aconteceu
Passionate Witness
Stop (not a Spice cover)
Take Some Time
The Real Me
Together And Alone
Tu No Me Conoces
Yours Unfaithfully
Window To Your Soul

Other released songs
I Don't Knowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa9O8yz6cRQ
Sophisticated Lady https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FjN7UuukKU
Sometimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZNhbL_9OY

Rumoured recordings
Don’t Go Breaking My Heart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl662chnkRQ
Burnt Out And Falling (later recorded by Lisa Scott-Lee)

Add any more that we know below and I will include them here! w00t.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 25 2020, 11:16 PM

Do we know if they ever even actually recorded:

- Are You My Friend? (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo, later released by another artist in German - cant remember the name in German)
- The George Michael song in 2007?
- Boyfriend/Girlfriend wth Blackstreet
- Holiday (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)
- We Are Family (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)

Are we allowed to post youtube links for the ltracks listed here?

Posted by: Sideout Nov 25 2020, 11:34 PM

Pleasin' Me - Spice
Likely Stories AKA C U Next Tuesday - Spice
Can't Stay Tonight - Spiceworld
Leader of The Gang - Spiceworld (produced by Biffco according to the end credits of Spice World movie)
Sound Off/Military Cadence - Spiceworld (produced by Absolute according to the end credits of Spice World movie)

Just One of Those Days - Touch
Sugar & Spice - Touch
Melody of Life - Touch
Don't Break My Heart - Touch (leaked)
Don't Wanna Be - Touch (leaked)
Don't Look Back - Touch
We're Gonna Make It Happen - Touch
Take Me Away - Touch
I Want You, I Need You - Touch

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 25 2020, 11:50 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Nov 26 2020, 12:34 AM) *
Pleasin' Me - Spice
Likely Stories AKA C U Next Tuesday - Spice
Can't Stay Tonight - Spiceworld
Leader of The Gang - Spiceworld (produced by Biffco according to the end credits of Spice World movie)
Sound Off/Military Cadence - Spiceworld (produced by Absolute according to the end credits of Spice World movie)

Just One of Those Days - Touch
Sugar & Spice - Touch
Melody of Life - Touch
Don't Break My Heart - Touch (leaked)
Don't Wanna Be - Touch (leaked)
Don't Look Back - Touch
We're Gonna Make It Happen - Touch
Take Me Away - Touch
I Want You, I Need You - Touch


Thanks, added cheer.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 25 2020, 11:53 PM

There's 48 tracks just on this list, and Im sure there might be a few more in the vaults that we never heard of (just like the 4 forever demos when they leaked, we didnt know about them before that date, lol)

So, girls.... plenty to choose from for a Spice special re-release next year funky.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Piers Nov 26 2020, 03:46 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 25 2020, 06:16 PM) *
Do we know if they ever even actually recorded:

- Are You My Friend? (Unreleased Spiceworld Sessions Demo, later released by another artist in German - cant remember the name in German)
- The George Michael song in 2007?
- Boyfriend/Girlfriend wth Blackstreet
- Holiday (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)
- We Are Family (rumoured for what was to be the covers/duet 3rd album)


I may have talked about it before...but Girlfriend/Boyfriend has always been especially interesting to me.

I remember way back in mid-1998, MTV reported Teddy Riley had offered the song to the girls. As far as I can tell, everything after that has been tabloid speculation. Besides fan sites claiming it, do we actually know the girls recorded it? I'm fairly sure none of them have ever addressed that song in interviews. A clip leaked back then that was an obvious fake.

Granted, Teddy Riley did go on to work with Mel B on Hot. She described him as being hard to work with...with a bad attitude and a lot of preconceived notions about her. To me...this doesn't especially sound like she had a prior working relationship with him from a Girlfriend/Boyfriend session.

I guess it's always possible they didn't record it (or their recording was dumped) when two of the girls got pregnant and the group went on a hiatus (the song was eventually released in May '99 when the group would've been pretty unlikely to shoot a new video or promote it).

One last thing. Anything else remember these rumored lyrics floating around in 1999? "Sugar and Spice, naughty and nice, glitter and ice, entice, Spice up your life not your baby's mom or wife." They sound pretty made up to me.


Posted by: dachiki Nov 26 2020, 05:06 AM

If ya do (forever session)

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 26 2020, 10:23 AM

QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 04:46 AM) *
I may have talked about it before...but Girlfriend/Boyfriend has always been especially interesting to me.

I remember way back in mid-1998, MTV reported Teddy Riley had offered the song to the girls. As far as I can tell, everything after that has been tabloid speculation. Besides fan sites claiming it, do we actually know the girls recorded it? I'm fairly sure none of them have ever addressed that song in interviews. A clip leaked back then that was an obvious fake.

Granted, Teddy Riley did go on to work with Mel B on Hot. She described him as being hard to work with...with a bad attitude and a lot of preconceived notions about her. To me...this doesn't especially sound like she had a prior working relationship with him from a Girlfriend/Boyfriend session.

I guess it's always possible they didn't record it (or their recording was dumped) when two of the girls got pregnant and the group went on a hiatus (the song was eventually released in May '99 when the group would've been pretty unlikely to shoot a new video or promote it).

One last thing. Anything else remember these rumored lyrics floating around in 1999? "Sugar and Spice, naughty and nice, glitter and ice, entice, Spice up your life not your baby's mom or wife." They sound pretty made up to me.


Yeah that sounds pretty made up to me too lol hence why I didnt want to include it in the list as I am pretty sure this was all a rumour (and didnt someone close to them really debunk it anyway?)...

I also remember that people refered to Janet singing 'there's some spice in this' lyric as a left over lyric from the Spice version lol

Posted by: Piers Nov 26 2020, 03:11 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 26 2020, 05:23 AM) *
Yeah that sounds pretty made up to me too lol hence why I didnt want to include it in the list as I am pretty sure this was all a rumour (and didnt someone close to them really debunk it anyway?)...

I also remember that people refered to Janet singing 'there's some spice in this' lyric as a left over lyric from the Spice version lol


I mean. Who knows. It might be?

I think in all likelihood, the girls did get offered the song by Riley. That part was reported by MTV...and I think everything MTV said about the girls back then turned out to be real or at least something that was genuinely in the pipeline. I'm just not convinced the group ever recorded it or even accepted the offer. Maybe that was part of the reason Riley was so sour to Mel B? He was trying to get the group for a project and only got a single member instead?

I did always think one part of the story was especially odd...it was intended for the South Park movie soundtrack? That soundtrack ended up only having songs from the movie itself (which was a musical). What seems slightly more likely is that the song could have been for South Park's Chef Aid album released at the end of 1998...which did have a few big artists on it.

Anyway. It's got my curiosity, but I don't think the girls not being on the song is any great loss. I like pretty much all of Forever better than Girlfriend/Boyfriend. I also think the song was a bit below Janet's usual standard in that time too. The old music video's a bit of a curiosity. Parts of it are actually quite creative and still look cool, but it's like they run out of money or effort or something at a a certain point.

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 26 2020, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 03:11 PM) *
I mean. Who knows. It might be?

I think in all likelihood, the girls did get offered the song by Riley. That part was reported by MTV...and I think everything MTV said about the girls back then turned out to be real or at least something that was genuinely in the pipeline. I'm just not convinced the group ever recorded it or even accepted the offer. Maybe that was part of the reason Riley was so sour to Mel B? He was trying to get the group for a project and only got a single member instead?

I did always think one part of the story was especially odd...it was intended for the South Park movie soundtrack? That soundtrack ended up only having songs from the movie itself (which was a musical). What seems slightly more likely is that the song could have been for South Park's Chef Aid album released at the end of 1998...which did have a few big artists on it.

Anyway. It's got my curiosity, but I don't think the girls not being on the song is any great loss. I like pretty much all of Forever better than Girlfriend/Boyfriend. I also think the song was a bit below Janet's usual standard in that time too. The old music video's a bit of a curiosity. Parts of it are actually quite creative and still look cool, but it's like they run out of money or effort or something at a a certain point.


Oh I forgot about that South Park thing and it does make sense. Maybe the fact that it wasnt the best song ever was a deciding factor? I agree that whilst it would have been interesting, it did sound maybe a bit too left field for the Spice Girls. HAVING SAID THAT.... maybe this song being released at the time would have bridged the gap between Goodbye and Forever being released and got the public a bit more used to the R&B sound of Forever...

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 26 2020, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(dachiki @ Nov 26 2020, 05:06 AM) *
If ya do (forever session)


Oh I never heard of this one. Do you have references of where to find information about it?

Posted by: Piers Nov 26 2020, 08:22 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 26 2020, 01:13 PM) *
Oh I never heard of this one. Do you have references of where to find information about it?


I've heard of If Ya Do as a rumored track too...but I can't seem to find anything about it now. I actually just scrolled through the old SpiceNews site articles from 2000...and didn't spot anything.

Anyway. This was 20 years ago, so I could be off on this. But my memory is that If Ya Do was one of the rumored titles of Forever tracks that emerged in the months before the album release. Supposedly Emma revealed it? I thought some fan sites reported it at the time.

I'm not sure I invest that much faith into the rumor. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we ever saw writing credits spring up for an If Ya Do. Also...I find it a little unlikely they'd put an If Ya Do and an If You Wanna Have Some Fun on the same album.

There were several odd song rumors floating around before Forever came out. Perhaps the oddest rumor was that a seven minute song called Bye was going to be included...which was mostly going to be them saying goodbye to the fans.

Quick side note. Reading through those old Spice stories from 2000, Victoria and (especially) Mel C were pretty vicious to other acts in pop in *a lot* of interviews. A. Lot. Lol. They certainly didn't like Geri...

Posted by: dachiki Nov 26 2020, 10:37 PM

I had read this on Denden forum before

Posted by: Piers Nov 27 2020, 12:16 AM

As for the George Michael song, I don't think they ever recorded that either.

Supposedly, Michael's writing partner told a radio interview December Song was originally meant for the girls' Greatest Hits album...but they missed the deadline to submit it.

A collab between Michael and the girls would seem like a great idea on paper, but the song seems quite wrong for the group. It's pretty overtly religious and a downer.

Their Greatest Hits period is quite an odd time it seems. George Michael writes a song. Mel C's guitarist writes a song. Ne-Yo is asked to participate. But we end up with two Biffo tracks.

Posted by: Jay* Nov 27 2020, 01:31 AM

QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 08:22 PM) *
Quick side note. Reading through those old Spice stories from 2000, Victoria and (especially) Mel C were pretty vicious to other acts in pop in *a lot* of interviews. A. Lot. Lol. They certainly didn't like Geri...

Ha, I definitely recall that Melanie C really didn't hold back in some interviews. In today's social media age she'd have got so many angry messages from fans drama.gif laugh.gif

By the way, fascinating to see all those songs listed together. I really hope that some of them can find their way onto a rarities album someday... I'll keep dreaming lol.

My contribution to this thread... Say You'll Be There with the rap. Supposedly this exists as a studio version but it's never leaked?

Posted by: KM AIR Nov 27 2020, 05:34 AM

QUOTE(Piers @ Nov 26 2020, 08:22 PM) *
Quick side note. Reading through those old Spice stories from 2000, Victoria and (especially) Mel C were pretty vicious to other acts in pop in *a lot* of interviews. A. Lot. Lol. They certainly didn't like Geri...


Ohhh...do tell! which pop acts besides Geri? blink.gif

Posted by: dachiki Nov 27 2020, 10:24 AM

On the ultimatespice website we can see this:
- Love Thang (Demo) (12") - 6:27
- Love Thang (Demo) (7") - 3:43
- Love Thang (Demo) (Instrumental) - 3:54
- Love Thang (Demo) (TV) - 3:43

Posted by: schizo_spice Nov 27 2020, 11:10 AM

QUOTE(KM AIR @ Nov 27 2020, 05:34 AM) *
Ohhh...do tell! which pop acts besides Geri? blink.gif


Not 2000 but I remember Mel slagging quite a few acts off including newly formed Girls Aloud a few times during the Reason era.

Not a good idea to piss off fans of other acts who may casually buy your records.

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 27 2020, 01:24 PM

QUOTE(schizo_spice @ Nov 27 2020, 11:10 AM) *
Not 2000 but I remember Mel slagging quite a few acts off including newly formed Girls Aloud a few times during the Reason era.

Not a good idea to piss off fans of other acts who may casually buy your records.


Actually now that you mention it, Mel C has even more recently consistently been awful about other female acts like Girls Aloud, Little Mix, Rihanna, etc.

And she has always done it about the same thing: women being extravagant/sexual. Hopefully this new found 'freedom' and take on equality does bring her some light on this as it is a shame that she spent most of her career advocating for women's rights whilst simultaneous shitting on other female acts...

She does do come around though, and has made peace and friends with Little Mix for instance...

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 27 2020, 01:59 PM

OK I will include only a list of songs we definitely have confirmation of, so no If Ya Do and BlackStreet songs on the list. George's song was clearly never recorded by the girls themselves either so will leave that out.

Jay - THANKS for reminding me about the Say You'll Be There version with the rap! That is one of the holly grails of Spiceworld together with WOMAN and I cant quite believe I forgot about it!!

Posted by: Piers Nov 27 2020, 04:01 PM

QUOTE(KM AIR @ Nov 27 2020, 12:34 AM) *
Ohhh...do tell! which pop acts besides Geri? blink.gif


So. With Mel C, a lot of it's targeted at Steps. Said they're not artists and musicians and don't belong in the same category as her...and thinks it's disgusting they, A1, and Westlife can get to #1. There's a lot about Geri. Doesn't like her hair. Doesn't like her music. Says she has bad breath. She goes after all the acts lip-syncing at Party in the Park (which is a bit odd...cause Victoria was lip-synching there that year). Calls Westlife a desperate band ripping off kids, and they make her sick (...these guys might deserve it, but I don't actually know if it was Mel C or Westlife who cast the first stone here). Says Girl Thing's management is ripping off the Spice Girls. Says Robbie Williams isn't any good in bed (lol)

With Victoria...she talks about Geri quite a lot...but the gist is...she doesn't like her music, finds her desperate, and thinks her leaving didn't effect the group. Calls Naomi Campbell a bitch and a massive cow. Calls some TV show host (Rory McGrath?) an ugly bast*rd. Calls Robbie Williams desperate for the Rock DJ video. Calls Westlife boring. There's a bit of a spat with Sophie Ellis-Bextor...but it seems Sophie was the nastier of the two.

That's what I remember off the top of my head. And that's only 2000. I thought I remembered Melanie C mostly getting nasty to other acts with the Reason era. But. There ya go. It truly was a different time. I think the Twitter era has dialed back some of the outwards feuding. It still happens, but I'm not sure people are quite so...frequently honest?

Posted by: spiceboy Nov 27 2020, 04:14 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 27 2020, 01:24 PM) *
Actually now that you mention it, Mel C has even more recently consistently been awful about other female acts like Girls Aloud, Little Mix, Rihanna, etc.

And she has always done it about the same thing: women being extravagant/sexual. Hopefully this new found 'freedom' and take on equality does bring her some light on this as it is a shame that she spent most of her career advocating for women's rights whilst simultaneous shitting on other female acts...

She does do come around though, and has made peace and friends with Little Mix for instance...



To be fair her comments on Little Mix and Rihanna and even Girls Aloud were hardly her being awful. With Little Mix and Rihanna all she said was that she thinks they are fantastic artists and so talented but that she finds Little Mix's new look overtly sexual for her young daughter... which is a very fair comment to make. Similar to Rihanna she said that she finds it a bit too much sometimes which I do too tbh. While I would never say Rihanna should censor herself, if she and Little Mix choose to dress or dance or portray themselves in certain ways then others are perfectly entitled to find it tacky. That Perri costume in Touch was just ridiculous she looked like she had no clothes on and I wouldn't want my 10 year old daughter watching it, and I certainly wouldn't let my young children anywhere near Rihanna. Mel then went on to say in another interview that she was reminded that Spice Girls Say you'll be there video literally had some members wearing costumes from a sex shop (Geri and Victoria) so perhaps she should shut the hell up laugh.gif

The Girls Aloud stuff was blown out of proportion and the comments were mainly off the back of Louis Walsh saying that Girls Aloud were bigger/better/more talented/had more personality than the Spice Girls during the CD:UK interview and Mel basically said "when they have 9 UK #1s come back to me." I also saw nothing wrong with her Westlife commentary on the song in that interview she said they were talented young lads but the constant cover ballad after cover ballad was boring.

I will say however she was quite vicious in 2000 towards pop acts like Steps and Geri and just rude tbh.

Posted by: Sideout Nov 30 2020, 12:59 AM

I can't believe certain fans are still holding onto the Touch songs. So ridiculous. I want to hear Melody of Life in full so bad.

Posted by: dachiki Nov 30 2020, 11:13 AM

And "Sugar And Spice" too sad.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 30 2020, 11:42 AM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Nov 30 2020, 12:59 AM) *
I can't believe certain fans are still holding onto the Touch songs. So ridiculous. I want to hear Melody of Life in full so bad.


Really, honestly never understood this other than some fans want to make money out of them. Idiots.

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 30 2020, 11:44 AM

QUOTE(spiceboy @ Nov 27 2020, 04:14 PM) *
To be fair her comments on Little Mix and Rihanna and even Girls Aloud were hardly her being awful. With Little Mix and Rihanna all she said was that she thinks they are fantastic artists and so talented but that she finds Little Mix's new look overtly sexual for her young daughter... which is a very fair comment to make. Similar to Rihanna she said that she finds it a bit too much sometimes which I do too tbh. While I would never say Rihanna should censor herself, if she and Little Mix choose to dress or dance or portray themselves in certain ways then others are perfectly entitled to find it tacky. That Perri costume in Touch was just ridiculous she looked like she had no clothes on and I wouldn't want my 10 year old daughter watching it, and I certainly wouldn't let my young children anywhere near Rihanna. Mel then went on to say in another interview that she was reminded that Spice Girls Say you'll be there video literally had some members wearing costumes from a sex shop (Geri and Victoria) so perhaps she should shut the hell up laugh.gif

The Girls Aloud stuff was blown out of proportion and the comments were mainly off the back of Louis Walsh saying that Girls Aloud were bigger/better/more talented/had more personality than the Spice Girls during the CD:UK interview and Mel basically said "when they have 9 UK #1s come back to me." I also saw nothing wrong with her Westlife commentary on the song in that interview she said they were talented young lads but the constant cover ballad after cover ballad was boring.

I will say however she was quite vicious in 2000 towards pop acts like Steps and Geri and just rude tbh.


I think she was unintentionally being awful, without knowing that her comments were pretty sexist and slutshaming. She used the same type of comments for Girls Aloud and LIttle Mix didnt she? About the type of costumes they were wearing and how they were too sexual.

That is such a shame cos the Spice Girls did all of that too back in the day, and back then it was MUCH more conservative time which The Spice Girls themselves faught against.

Im glad she has come around at least with Little Mix though.

About Steps and Geri - yeah she was mean but at least then she had a point teresa.gif

Posted by: Sideout Nov 30 2020, 04:31 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 30 2020, 04:42 AM) *
Really, honestly never understood this other than some fans want to make money out of them. Idiots.

It's funny how all those campaigns Agent Spice did contained an unreleased Touch song. Obviously, certain fans have them, but they want to make money off of them.

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 30 2020, 06:11 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Nov 30 2020, 04:31 PM) *
It's funny how all those campaigns Agent Spice did contained an unreleased Touch song. Obviously, certain fans have them, but they want to make money off of them.



Oh whatever happened to those campaigns?! Yeah I participated in a few but then stopped cos its pretty disgusting that fans keep profiting like this. Sad, disgusting behaviour really and I wish they get over their shit

Posted by: Sideout Nov 30 2020, 06:21 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 30 2020, 11:11 AM) *
Oh whatever happened to those campaigns?! Yeah I participated in a few but then stopped cos its pretty disgusting that fans keep profiting like this. Sad, disgusting behaviour really and I wish they get over their shit

He still does one on Spice Circle occasionally. He started to get mad because people were leaking the Touch tracks. Someone also leaked the Damon Dash Victoria tracks days after that campaign ended. So basically everyone paid a whole bunch of money for nothing.

Agent Spice also started a campaign for the 4 Eliot Kennedy Forever tracks for thousands of dollars. Thankfully Ken Adams leaked them so Agent Spice and his "secret donator" didn't get any money.

Posted by: dachiki Nov 30 2020, 07:06 PM

there was a campaign a few years ago of a Victoria Beckham song produced by Gary Barlow.

Posted by: dachiki Nov 30 2020, 07:07 PM

this song did not leak on the net

Posted by: Sideout Nov 30 2020, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(dachiki @ Nov 30 2020, 12:06 PM) *
there was a campaign a few years ago of a Victoria Beckham song produced by Gary Barlow.

That's cool. Do you remember the name of the song? I've always wanted to hear the tracks she did with Barlow and Eliot Kennedy.

Posted by: dachiki Nov 30 2020, 08:49 PM

Whatever You Want

Posted by: Sideout Nov 30 2020, 09:04 PM

Thanks.

Posted by: dachiki Nov 30 2020, 09:21 PM

I did not participate in this campaign because the sound of the extract of the song was bad. The participation was 10 € and possibility of having 2 other titles of the same session if the first song does not leak on the net because the producer risks legal action.

Posted by: spiceboy Nov 30 2020, 09:21 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 30 2020, 11:44 AM) *
I think she was unintentionally being awful, without knowing that her comments were pretty sexist and slutshaming. She used the same type of comments for Girls Aloud and LIttle Mix didnt she? About the type of costumes they were wearing and how they were too sexual.

That is such a shame cos the Spice Girls did all of that too back in the day, and back then it was MUCH more conservative time which The Spice Girls themselves faught against.

Im glad she has come around at least with Little Mix though.

About Steps and Geri - yeah she was mean but at least then she had a point teresa.gif



I don't think she ever said anything about Girls Aloud being too sexual. To be fair as well Melanie has always said they should be free to express themselves how they wish, but when Little Mix are targeting young girls as their fanbase they have a responsibility towards those young children. The touch video with Perri looking naked in it and the dancing well it's a valid point and it's clearly very influenced by her outlook on it as a mother. I'm a primary school teacher and many years ago I remember hearing/seeing young girls in the playground singing S&M and gyrating and it was awful and that's when my opinion changed about how popstars express themselves. Young children shouldn't be subjected to such sexual language or imagery at such a young age and popstars targeted at those young children should think about that a bit more before exposing them to that content.

I say all this as a fan of Little Mix too, I think they have great songs and are so talented one of the best girl bands there's been.

Posted by: Sideout Nov 30 2020, 09:35 PM

QUOTE(dachiki @ Nov 30 2020, 02:21 PM) *
I did not participate in this campaign because the sound of the extract of the song was bad. The participation was 10 € and possibility of having 2 other titles of the same session if the first song does not leak on the net because the producer risks legal action.

Interesting. Weird a producer would endanger their career in order to sell old Victoria songs.

Posted by: dachiki Nov 30 2020, 09:51 PM

Here the message by mail:

Hi!


I'm writing you because you participated in the Victoria Beckham Damon Dash album campaign and wanted to extend an offer to you to participate in a campaign to acquire an unreleased Victoria Beckham track. Please keep this information and campaign to yourself and do not post about it publicly because there is at least one other Victoria Beckham track from this session and the seller has access to unreleased tracks by other artists and there could be more Spice-related tracks in the future.


I was approached by someone who is acting as an intermediary for the sale of a previously unreleased Victoria Beckham track. Sadly, it's a 128 kbps mp3. Because items from the last campaign leaked (and the VB Damon Dash album made the UK news), they want me to limit membership (we agreed on 20 members contributing including me). 


The cost of the track is $400 so it would be $20 each, which I realize is a lot, especially for one track and considering it's 128 kbps mp3. The intermediary doesn't want the VB track to leak because they could lose access to said source so I have to be really choosy about whom I pick. I obviously trust you and I'm not sure if you'd even want to participate.


If you decide not to participate, I completely understand (and wouldn't blame you). I'd be so grateful if you would want to contribute, but no pressure - you've already been extremely supportive with past DenDen campaigns and I would never want you to feel like I'm taking advantage. Let me know your thoughts at your convenience. Please don't repeat anything I mentioned because I don't have the track yet and I wouldn't want to do anything to derail the agreement. Thank you!


Best,

Seth


Posted by: Sideout Nov 30 2020, 10:24 PM

Thanks for sharing. Ridiculous selling a low quality Victoria track for $400. I can't believe people bought it.

Posted by: Mr.X May 31 2021, 08:35 PM

HUNS!

Shall we do a Solo Spice version of this? I only know Emma Bunton ones, so if anyone can give me a titles/lists of tracks unreleased or demos that were leaked from any solo Spices, that would be amazing!

Will update in the next few days in the meantime.

Lets do it!!

Posted by: isanka Jun 4 2021, 11:14 AM

I made this page for Melanie C - But only with the leaked one.
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=226451

Posted by: Mr.X Jul 11 2022, 09:21 AM

Updated with the following information:

Dingeling - demo from Spiceworld

Girlfriend/Boyfriend - I am including this one as when pictures of Mel C's storage unit were leaked last year, it turns out that there was a cassette of this track on it!

ALSO, https://spiceversesite.wordpress.com/music/spice-girls-music/ lists the following from the Greatest Hits era. Do we know anything about these? It is the first time I am reading about these titles:

Get Out Of Your Head
Saturday
Thank You

Posted by: Skankhunt43 Jul 11 2022, 09:50 AM

All five of those sound better than the majority of their rnb album by pop singers who aren't rnb singers.

Posted by: Sideout Jul 11 2022, 08:52 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jul 11 2022, 02:21 AM) *
Updated with the following information:

Dingeling - demo from Spiceworld

Girlfriend/Boyfriend - I am including this one as when pictures of Mel C's storage unit were leaked last year, it turns out that there was a cassette of this track on it!

ALSO, https://spiceversesite.wordpress.com/music/spice-girls-music/ lists the following from the Greatest Hits era. Do we know anything about these? It is the first time I am reading about these titles:

Get Out Of Your Head
Saturday
Thank You

Saturday was registered on ASCAP before 2007. It's not a GH song. More than likely it's the original title for Saturday Night Divas.

Get Out Of Your Head and Thank You are 2007 Spice Girls songs that were listed on Phil Tyreman's website. He is a music engineer. His official website is no longer active. Here are some screenshots of his website on the way back machine.

The songs are listed on the first link

http://web.archive.org/web/20160127102121/http://philtyreman.com/credits.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20080421072042/http://www.philtyreman.com/Phil_Tyreman_-_Producer_Engineer.html

Posted by: Mr.X Jul 11 2022, 10:03 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Jul 11 2022, 08:52 PM) *
Saturday was registered on ASCAP before 2007. It's not a GH song. More than likely it's the original title for Saturday Night Divas.

Get Out Of Your Head and Thank You are 2007 Spice Girls songs that were listed on Phil Tyreman's website. He is a music engineer. His official website is no longer active. Here are some screenshots of his website on the way back machine.

The songs are listed on the first link

http://web.archive.org/web/20160127102121/http://philtyreman.com/credits.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20080421072042/http://www.philtyreman.com/Phil_Tyreman_-_Producer_Engineer.html


Thank you! That is pretty interesting. If I time one day (lol) I will try to update the list with the credits and listings info on each track.

If Saturday was registered on ASCAP, do we know the names of the writers, producers, etc? Then we could know if it is the same song as SND. I would hope not!

Never had heard of it, Thank You and GOOYH. Some interesting titles for sure. I guess the Thank You goes in line with the rumours of there being a long track where the girls are thanking their fans. Could be that?...

Id love to know more. Maybe we could contact Phil Tyreman to ask some qs about the tracks? Do we know a way to get in touch?

Posted by: Sideout Jul 12 2022, 01:37 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jul 11 2022, 03:03 PM) *
Thank you! That is pretty interesting. If I time one day (lol) I will try to update the list with the credits and listings info on each track.

If Saturday was registered on ASCAP, do we know the names of the writers, producers, etc? Then we could know if it is the same song as SND. I would hope not!

Never had heard of it, Thank You and GOOYH. Some interesting titles for sure. I guess the Thank You goes in line with the rumours of there being a long track where the girls are thanking their fans. Could be that?...

Id love to know more. Maybe we could contact Phil Tyreman to ask some qs about the tracks? Do we know a way to get in touch?

Saturday has the same writers as Saturday Night Divas. Biff and Matt Rowe.

I couldn't find any social media for Phil Tryeman. Would be great if he was able to provide us with some information on the tracks.

Posted by: Piers Jul 16 2022, 01:42 PM

Interesting to hear about Get Out Of Your Head and Thank You. With those two tracks, that would mean the girls had at least six new songs they were toying with for the Greatest Hits. Then, beyond that...we know George Michael was working on that Christmas track that didn't meet the deadline (eventually released on his own)...and Neyo was asked to participate in creating some new music (scheduling conflict prevented it). Biff claimed in the David Sinclair book that he had about five old demos he wanted to give to an eventual Greatest Hits project. It makes you wonder how big their team was aiming to make the Greatest Hits project at one time...and how it all got scaled back to just Headlines and Voodoo.


Posted by: spiceboy Jul 16 2022, 01:51 PM

Seriously headlines and voodoo was such a disappointment. I like headlines it’s nice but that’s it nice and definitely NOT comeback single material!

Posted by: schizo_spice Jul 16 2022, 02:51 PM

I never really looked on Headlines as a comeback single more a new song to promote the Greatest Hits.

They didn’t push it at all as a single in its own right.

Posted by: Mr.X Jul 17 2022, 12:04 AM

QUOTE(Piers @ Jul 16 2022, 01:42 PM) *
Interesting to hear about Get Out Of Your Head and Thank You. With those two tracks, that would mean the girls had at least six new songs they were toying with for the Greatest Hits. Then, beyond that...we know George Michael was working on that Christmas track that didn't meet the deadline (eventually released on his own)...and Neyo was asked to participate in creating some new music (scheduling conflict prevented it). Biff claimed in the David Sinclair book that he had about five old demos he wanted to give to an eventual Greatest Hits project. It makes you wonder how big their team was aiming to make the Greatest Hits project at one time...and how it all got scaled back to just Headlines and Voodoo.


I imagine they were trying different songs with the same old producers from their hey day and somehow they thought that Headlines and Voodoo were the best ones to release?... Im not sure they ever planned more than the GH tracks at the time, but they did at least experiment a bit in the studio.

It's sad how awful the whole campaign was for Headlines though. The crap video (seriously, no budget, terrible concept and editing) and the mimed TV performances were a bit lame. No wonder it didnt do well at all.

They got to learn to promote though. They're so crap at it nowadays, whereas they were pretty much the blueprint of how to promote back in the 90s.

Posted by: Piers Jul 17 2022, 04:20 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jul 16 2022, 07:04 PM) *
I imagine they were trying different songs with the same old producers from their hey day and somehow they thought that Headlines and Voodoo were the best ones to release?... Im not sure they ever planned more than the GH tracks at the time, but they did at least experiment a bit in the studio.

It's sad how awful the whole campaign was for Headlines though. The crap video (seriously, no budget, terrible concept and editing) and the mimed TV performances were a bit lame. No wonder it didnt do well at all.

They got to learn to promote though. They're so crap at it nowadays, whereas they were pretty much the blueprint of how to promote back in the 90s.


I guess we'll never know...but I'm not sure they were necessarily looking for the "best" songs. Here's what I mean. Since they invited Neyo to take part, I think there's an indication they were open to furthering their sound at one time in the creative process. Mel C has also said she liked some of these other songs they recorded...whereas she didn't like Voodoo. My guess is what they ended up picking wasn't necessarily the best, but rather a conscious decision to pick what best recaptured the old sound.

But yeah. I definitely agree on the Headlines video. It's such a dud creatively. Considering they got Jamie King as their tour director to make their show the best of the best...their team really should have shown that same level of quality control to the video. Had the video been this big, beautiful thing like Goodbye's...I actually think the song itself would be better regarded today. My memory is the video shoot and the video release weren't far apart, so I guess there just wasn't the production time to make something grand.

A last thought on Headlines. Looking back on it nearly 15 years later, I've never stopped liking the song...but I do think there's something of a lyrical missed opportunity. I think the concept of a big love song from the perspective of hugely famous people is actually fairly clever. Like...I love you enough to take you on this tabloid journey with me. But beyond the first three lines of the chorus...the rest of the song isn't really about that. More a standard love song.

Posted by: Skankhunt43 Jul 17 2022, 09:59 AM

Headlines is really nice, but the video is the absolute PITS and has norhing ro do with the song. I agree with the lyrics change to it being abour a famous romance, but even then it screams 5th single...

I wonder if they should have released December Song instesd foe the GH if they wanted a ballad, and waited for GM. If not, they should have gone for the Wannabe/ The Race Is On (To Get Our Of The Bottom) sound. It would have done much better and set them up for a Take That-style experimentation with a THIRD STUDIO ALBUM!!

In fact, why didn't they get rid of the rnb production of WOMAN, that had steipped it of its life, and got the Wannabe producers ro liven it up again, tweak the lyrics, and go for THAT?! It would have been a moment, especially with a Spice Up Ya Life style video. Might have even reached no.1?!

Thank You also sounds like an interesting big ballad...

Thwy should have been MUCH braver. Spicws were NEEEVER known for being tepid and timid, ao coming back so nervous and tame did not work. Fortune favours the boldA

Posted by: Mr.X Jul 18 2022, 09:42 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Jul 17 2022, 04:20 AM) *
I guess we'll never know...but I'm not sure they were necessarily looking for the "best" songs. Here's what I mean. Since they invited Neyo to take part, I think there's an indication they were open to furthering their sound at one time in the creative process. Mel C has also said she liked some of these other songs they recorded...whereas she didn't like Voodoo. My guess is what they ended up picking wasn't necessarily the best, but rather a conscious decision to pick what best recaptured the old sound.

But yeah. I definitely agree on the Headlines video. It's such a dud creatively. Considering they got Jamie King as their tour director to make their show the best of the best...their team really should have shown that same level of quality control to the video. Had the video been this big, beautiful thing like Goodbye's...I actually think the song itself would be better regarded today. My memory is the video shoot and the video release weren't far apart, so I guess there just wasn't the production time to make something grand.

A last thought on Headlines. Looking back on it nearly 15 years later, I've never stopped liking the song...but I do think there's something of a lyrical missed opportunity. I think the concept of a big love song from the perspective of hugely famous people is actually fairly clever. Like...I love you enough to take you on this tabloid journey with me. But beyond the first three lines of the chorus...the rest of the song isn't really about that. More a standard love song.


Oh for sure they went with the songs that were more akin to their original sound, which is a shame. I always wanted to hear their take on that Christmas song by George Michael. It would have been quite interesting for their own sound and have more of a build than what GM released.

I guess Headlines was a total missfire in many ways. The song itselft starts strong with a lovely verse by Emma, but as soon as that ends, it becomes a sloppy love ballad. When I first heard it I thought they were going to home in on that 'headlines'/reminiscing vibe and Emma's opening verse does sort of indicate that to be the case. But then the song really does just go into standard ballad territory which is a shame.

I also remember thinking that a video of them TOGETHER walking through a house with loads of memories from their past would have been nice. But alas.... we got whatever that video is lol

Posted by: Skankhunt43 Jul 19 2022, 06:45 PM

So disappointing sad.gif

They really should have done WOMAN.

Posted by: michael319 Jul 19 2022, 06:57 PM

The fact they had a song called spice is back and didn’t use it. Like wtf. Do we know what it sounds like.

Posted by: Skankhunt43 Jul 19 2022, 07:04 PM

QUOTE(michael319 @ Jul 19 2022, 06:57 PM) *
The fact they had a song called spice is back and didn’t use it. Like wtf. Do we know what it sounds like.


Isn't that just Right Back At Ya?

Posted by: Skankhunt43 Jul 19 2022, 07:06 PM

But if it exists!!

Imagine a doo oop album like this:

1. Spice Is Back - heavily promoted in USA
2. W.O.M.A.N
3. Pain Proof
4. Something else, maybe Thank You??

Or just those three! Move Thank You to Forever, and advertise it as their final single after the most iconic double A Seed ever snd IFYWT(HSF)(SOYM)! They could have released Girlfriend/Boyfriend as the 4th single, oe if it was rnb, put it on Forever.

They really let down their legacy, as the biggest girl band OF S
ALL TIME ... well, after the Andrews Sisters.

Posted by: Sideout Jul 19 2022, 09:48 PM

QUOTE(michael319 @ Jul 19 2022, 11:57 AM) *
The fact they had a song called spice is back and didn’t use it. Like wtf. Do we know what it sounds like.

Melanie C said in a fan interview Spice Is Back is in the same vein as Wannabe and Spice Up Your Life.

Melanie talks about two of the unreleased greatest hits tracks at the 9:15 mark.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BIpiKcJ_S4k&t=470s

Posted by: Skankhunt43 Jul 19 2022, 10:35 PM

WAT!!! EHY DIDN'T THEY RELEASE THAT

GOD SAKE HOW THEY ANNOY ME

Posted by: spiceboy Jul 20 2022, 08:42 AM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Jul 19 2022, 09:48 PM) *
Melanie C said in a fan interview Spice Is Back is in the same vein as Wannabe and Spice Up Your Life.

Melanie talks about two of the unreleased greatest hits tracks at the 9:15 mark.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BIpiKcJ_S4k&t=470s


Always hated that interview! She agreed to do a interview asking some fab questions and every single one was about spice girls nothing to do with her solo work, after knowing how frustrating it can be to answer spice girls questions non-stop I thought fans would have chosen some more variation, or they would have chosen a variation if it was down to those two.

Also she couldn’t remember anything lol, I do wonder if she couldn’t or just couldn’t be arsed after that, at one point she even says “is it another spice girls question” lol.

Posted by: Sideout Jul 20 2022, 02:30 PM

QUOTE(spiceboy @ Jul 20 2022, 01:42 AM) *
Always hated that interview! She agreed to do a interview asking some fab questions and every single one was about spice girls nothing to do with her solo work, after knowing how frustrating it can be to answer spice girls questions non-stop I thought fans would have chosen some more variation, or they would have chosen a variation if it was down to those two.

Also she couldn’t remember anything lol, I do wonder if she couldn’t or just couldn’t be arsed after that, at one point she even says “is it another spice girls question” lol.

Yeah, that fan interview is cringe worthy. I understand fans want information on unreleased tracks. However, they should realize Melanie probably hasn't thought about these songs since the day they were recorded.

Posted by: Mr.X Jul 20 2022, 02:59 PM

Yeah I agree, although bless them for trying and for her to be open to it.

I guess producers like Biff and Elliott Kennedy seem much more open to discussing these things with more in-depth detail. So maybe we should ask them!!

Posted by: Skankhunt43 Jul 20 2022, 05:04 PM

My GOD in 2007 they could have been huge, had they not eaited MONTHS from announcement to launch and rleeased Spice Is Back out of the blue! Follow it up with W.O..M.A.N, a really rocky Pain Proof, maybe with Paul McCartney or Arctic Monkeys, and then Hesdlines, with different lyrics and a new video, for CIN. THEN!!! Have Calvin remix Stop and have a campaign for it to be no.1. See how the album goes, and then decide whrther or not to continue from there on.

Posted by: Mr.X Jul 22 2022, 11:42 PM

I've changed the original post to reflect the info that Biff Stannard says here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7ylBooFrw


Overnight is stated both as a 1995 Spice demo, and a 1999 Forever demo. Biff mentioned in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7ylBooFrw that Overnight was written in 1995 during the first sessions he did with the band. However, he also posted a picture on his instagram with a 1999 demo tape which included a bunch of Forever demos, which included Overnight.

So there might be a second version of Overnight where the original 1995 demo was re-worked to potential inclusion in what would eventually become their third album, Forever. Obviously things hanged and it was never released, alongside all the other demos mentioned in the picture that Biffco posted.

Would be interesting to hear them both! teresa.gif

Of course, it could just as easily mean that it was the same demo, but that's not as fun lol wub.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 14 2022, 12:32 PM

Updated info:

Serial Killer & Overnight, demos

Source: Melanie C's autobiography

Posted by: dancinqueen Sep 14 2022, 12:40 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 14 2022, 12:32 PM) *
Updated info:

Serial Killer & Overnight, demos

Source: Melanie C's autobiography


Serial Killer, that title screams so Geri. LOL
Was it from Forever or we don’t know?

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 14 2022, 01:35 PM

QUOTE(dancinqueen @ Sep 14 2022, 12:40 PM) *
Serial Killer, that title screams so Geri. LOL
Was it from Forever or we don’t know?


Spice-era

Posted by: Sideout Sep 15 2022, 05:47 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 14 2022, 05:32 AM) *
Updated info:

Serial Killer & Overnight, demos

Source: Melanie C's autobiography

More confirmed unreleased songs we'll never get to hear. In retrospect, Spice 25 was a major disappointment. Imagine if we would have got
Feed Your Love
Likely Stories
Overnight
Serial Killer
Seven Days

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 15 2022, 09:05 AM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Sep 15 2022, 05:47 AM) *
More confirmed unreleased songs we'll never get to hear. In retrospect, Spice 25 was a major disappointment. Imagine if we would have got
Feed Your Love
Likely Stories
Overnight
Serial Killer
Seven Days


exactly, in retrospect it really was the bare f***ing minimum again...

Boy they really must do much better with Spiceworld 25 blink.gif






















































They wont dry.gif

Posted by: Sideout Sep 15 2022, 02:17 PM

I posted this in the general discussion topic, but it's more relevant in this thread.

Songwriter Sheppard Solomon recently was on a music podcast. He revealed the unreleased track Seven Days is from Spice. Solomon said him and Mark Taylor (songwriter and producer of Cher's Believe) wrote two songs with the girls. He also goes into detail about meeting the girls for the first time and how wild they were.

Starts at the 15 minute mark.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2lEq0TuIS9fK44hd3FpQmS?si=Cm9IVgCQSyaWHhgrIR_JBg&utm_source=copy-link

Posted by: dannjohn Sep 15 2022, 02:30 PM

i do wonder if they actually will ever release 'WOMAN'.

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 15 2022, 02:32 PM

Thank you! Will change. Do we know at all what other song it was they did together with Solomon?


I am also listening to Mel C's audiobook today and will include here any other bits of info. Some INTERESTING STUFF for sure so far beyond what was already posted!

A bit more info on some tracks, from Mel C's book:

- One of Those Days was the first song they ever created together, whilst they were still under Heart Management but did it on their own at home, away from the management team in Geri's old casio keyboard player

- CONFIRMED that a version of Say You'll Be There with Mel B's rap exists!!!!! WHY wasnt included in Spice25 instead of the demo we got nickyoung.png

- Who Do You Think You Are, Last Time Lover, Something Kinda Funny and Naked were all recorded in 1995 all in the same sessions, and before they signed to Virgin which is WILD to me!

Posted by: Sideout Sep 15 2022, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 15 2022, 07:32 AM) *
Thank you! Will change. Do we know at all what other song it was they did together with Solomon?

No, he didn't say what the other song title was. Nothing else is registered on publishing sites.

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 15 2022, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Sep 15 2022, 03:03 PM) *
No, he didn't say what the other song title was. Nothing else is registered on publishing sites.


we should ask him!! teresa.gif

Posted by: Sideout Sep 15 2022, 03:46 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 15 2022, 08:31 AM) *
we should ask him!! teresa.gif

We should. Need to find out if he's on social media. Also, I forgot to mention he says his recording session with the girls was roughly two weeks before they signed with Simon Fuller.

If I remember right they signed with Fuller in July 1995.

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 15 2022, 03:59 PM

It is quite amazing they did so much before siging on with Fuller and with Virgin, actually, whilst being on the dole (state benefits) and managing themselves. People were working with them purely because of their talent and determination, which is pretty iconique!!!

QUOTE(dannjohn @ Sep 15 2022, 02:30 PM) *
i do wonder if they actually will ever release 'WOMAN'.


Biff did hint it was being planned for Forever25 teresa.gif

Posted by: Sideout Sep 15 2022, 04:09 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 15 2022, 08:59 AM) *
It is quite amazing they did so much before siging on with Fuller and with Virgin, actually, whilst being on the dole (state benefits) and managing themselves. People were working with them purely because of their talent and determination, which is pretty iconique!!!

The girls deserve much more credit for their songwriting. Sadly, I don't think they will ever get that credit.

Posted by: sammy01 Sep 15 2022, 07:41 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Jul 17 2022, 05:20 AM) *
I guess we'll never know...but I'm not sure they were necessarily looking for the "best" songs. Here's what I mean. Since they invited Neyo to take part, I think there's an indication they were open to furthering their sound at one time in the creative process. Mel C has also said she liked some of these other songs they recorded...whereas she didn't like Voodoo. My guess is what they ended up picking wasn't necessarily the best, but rather a conscious decision to pick what best recaptured the old sound.

But yeah. I definitely agree on the Headlines video. It's such a dud creatively. Considering they got Jamie King as their tour director to make their show the best of the best...their team really should have shown that same level of quality control to the video. Had the video been this big, beautiful thing like Goodbye's...I actually think the song itself would be better regarded today. My memory is the video shoot and the video release weren't far apart, so I guess there just wasn't the production time to make something grand.

A last thought on Headlines. Looking back on it nearly 15 years later, I've never stopped liking the song...but I do think there's something of a lyrical missed opportunity. I think the concept of a big love song from the perspective of hugely famous people is actually fairly clever. Like...I love you enough to take you on this tabloid journey with me. But beyond the first three lines of the chorus...the rest of the song isn't really about that. More a standard love song.


The Headlines video was a incredibly rushed as Mel B was on Dancing with the stars at the time.

Posted by: michael319 Sep 23 2022, 03:24 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 15 2022, 11:59 AM) *
It is quite amazing they did so much before siging on with Fuller and with Virgin, actually, whilst being on the dole (state benefits) and managing themselves. People were working with them purely because of their talent and determination, which is pretty iconique!!!
Biff did hint it was being planned for Forever25 teresa.gif



Where did he hint this?

Posted by: Equinox8 Sep 23 2022, 05:14 PM

QUOTE(michael319 @ Sep 23 2022, 03:24 PM) *
Where did he hint this?


I find the concept of Forever25 a bit difficult to wrap my head around. Sure, there's more or less a whole other album from 1998/1999 that they never released and it would be great to get that, but given how many unreleased tracks they are still hoarding and sleeping on (from Spice at least), I am doubtful anything will come out of the vault, especially for an album where the group wasn't unified as a 5 piece to begin with. Can't imagine Gerita White celebrating an era that she forced yet wasn't a part of.

However, I will say, I think new artwork for Forever25, if it happens, would alone be considered a win by the fanbase. I still remembering buying the album on the day it came out here and looking at in my hands and thinking: they look exhausted; 'colours of the world' my arse. teresa.gif I'm not saying the entire album is poor, but it just ... wasn't the best version of what they could have been as a 4-piece (in my opinion). I think if they made a 4 piece album today, it would be a better record because they just seem in a much better place with everything.

Posted by: Sideout Sep 23 2022, 06:01 PM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Sep 23 2022, 10:14 AM) *
I find the concept of Forever25 a bit difficult to wrap my head around. Sure, there's more or less a whole other album from 1998/1999 that they never released and it would be great to get that, but given how many unreleased tracks they are still hoarding and sleeping on (from Spice at least), I am doubtful anything will come out of the vault, especially for an album where the group wasn't unified as a 5 piece to begin with. Can't imagine Gerita White celebrating an era that she forced yet wasn't a part of.

However, I will say, I think new artwork for Forever25, if it happens, would alone be considered a win by the fanbase. I still remembering buying the album on the day it came out here and looking at in my hands and thinking: they look exhausted; 'colours of the world' my arse. teresa.gif I'm not saying the entire album is poor, but it just ... wasn't the best version of what they could have been as a 4-piece (in my opinion). I think if they made a 4 piece album today, it would be a better record because they just seem in a much better place with everything.

I agree, I just don't see a Forever 25 happening. Geri has nothing to do with that era. Melanie C was dealing with her mental health issues at that time. I don't see her celebrating Forever.

A b-side/rarities album released at the end of June along side their Glastonbury performance would probably sell well. I believe you have suggested this before Equinox8.

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 23 2022, 09:46 PM

Well it is not like Geri (or any of the girls bar Mel C) is much involved in the promo for the Spice25 and Spiceworld25 anyway, so that doesn't make much sense as a blocking point...

Im still waiting for it, it's the most interesting one for sure!

Posted by: schizo_spice Sep 23 2022, 11:34 PM

I think Forever 25 would’ve only worked had it been released in 1998 and next year was its anniversary.

They aren’t going to wait until 2025 to do something like this again. I’d be very surprised if they did.


Posted by: Equinox8 Sep 24 2022, 02:08 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 23 2022, 09:46 PM) *
Well it is not like Geri (or any of the girls bar Mel C) is much involved in the promo for the Spice25 and Spiceworld25 anyway, so that doesn't make much sense as a blocking point...

Im still waiting for it, it's the most interesting one for sure!


I think we've learned that when it comes to the SG, anything and everything CAN be a blocking point.

Get well soon, Geri! tongue.gif

QUOTE(Sideout @ Sep 23 2022, 06:01 PM) *
I agree, I just don't see a Forever 25 happening. Geri has nothing to do with that era. Melanie C was dealing with her mental health issues at that time. I don't see her celebrating Forever.

A b-side/rarities album released at the end of June along side their Glastonbury performance would probably sell well. I believe you have suggested this before Equinox8.


Thanks for the mention, Sideout! I have mentioned that before yes - I just think the next year is going to be their last BIG celebration of what they achieved. With all the press, it would be a smart time to bulk up their catalogue with either unreleased tracks or (heaven forbid) new music.

Posted by: Voodoo Nov 23 2022, 09:12 PM

How come only Treasure has (Demo) next to its title? Does it mean the other listed songs passed the demo stage and were properly recorded & produced for commercial release? thinking.gif


Posted by: Melancholia Nov 23 2022, 09:18 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Nov 23 2022, 09:12 PM) *
How come only Treasure has (Demo) next to its title? Does it mean the other listed songs passed the demo stage and were properly recorded & produced for commercial release? thinking.gif



This is usually so those listening to the songs (the label) are aware that particular track is still in it's early stages and will have changes.

Posted by: Mr.X Nov 23 2022, 09:44 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Nov 23 2022, 09:12 PM) *
How come only Treasure has (Demo) next to its title? Does it mean the other listed songs passed the demo stage and were properly recorded & produced for commercial release? thinking.gif



Oh I never realised... So maybe the other tracks are at a more advanced level, like the Elliott Kennedy tracks that leaked (which were almost finished too before being discarted).

Interesting point! In order to shed light into this Spice mistery, we simply MUST have a Forever25 which includes a 2CD with the CD1 as the original tracklist and a CD2 with an exclusively demos and unreleased tracks ONLY tracklist please and thank you Mel B Gerita Flawless Chizzo Vicky Bex yahoo.gif cheer.gif

Posted by: colinn Nov 23 2022, 10:07 PM

When reading through old Billboard Magazines they confirmed the 'Boyfriend/Girlfriend' duet in Studio X in Seattle during a tour stop in Tacoma. The tour date was August 8th 1998 and they had 3 days off prior.

Posted by: Sideout Nov 23 2022, 11:18 PM

Hopefully we get Go Go Go since it's Biff's favorite. He says so in the comments of that Instagram post with the Forever songs.

Posted by: dromeda Nov 24 2022, 02:05 AM

They are more likely to release a special edition box with all available materials: demos, live, remixes, unreleased and some new songs. In this context, songs not released in the Forever era would make more sense too. I see this happening along with the next tour to celebrate one last time. I also believe that this time there will be a professional recording of the tour for the commercial purpose that can compose this box. Full circle, finally.

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 21 2022, 11:06 AM

A new demo titled Cool, Calm, Collected written by Victoria has leaked. It seems like it is sang by a session singer, but on ASCAP it is registered with Victoria's name.

It is out there, not sure if I can post the link here though but it is on Spice Circle.

Got me thinking... Do we want to expand on the list to include the solo unreleased/demos we know of?

I know some of Emma's and I know of one from Mel B but beyond that, I am not sure at all from the others.

If you know of unreleased songs and demos from the solo girls, write them here and I will do some hunting over Christmas as well

Posted by: Merry Christmaz Dec 21 2022, 10:35 PM

A clip of C U Next Tuesday has been uploaden on an upload site weeks ago and you can deffo hear Melanie C on it.
https://twitter.com/flamencolambada/status/1605688291944120320?s=46&t=GycAzOHSwA5PN0vHcK5n_w

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 21 2022, 10:36 PM

A short snippet of C U Next Tuesday has leaked w00t.gif cheer.gif Hopefully it is doing the rounds and it will leak soon teresa.gif



Just saw that! Definitely Mel C first and then Emma, right?...

Posted by: spiceboy Dec 21 2022, 10:53 PM

Wait what how??? That is a pretty big deal in terms of Spice releases / leaks!!

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 21 2022, 10:59 PM

Oh yes this is HUGE!! WOMAN demo clip levels of huge! Apparently it was found on a file sharing website, but the full thing is still to show up

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 21 2022, 11:07 PM

Yep Mel C then Emma singing, sounds very cool.

Posted by: Yobnedor Dec 21 2022, 11:11 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 21 2022, 10:36 PM) *
A short snippet of C U Next Tuesday has leaked w00t.gif cheer.gif Hopefully it is doing the rounds and it will leak soon teresa.gif



I kinda feel like I’ve heard that before. It feels familiar to me somehow.

Posted by: Babyboy Dec 21 2022, 11:11 PM

Even a little clip, It's better than FYL.

Posted by: Voodoo Dec 21 2022, 11:18 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 22 2022, 12:36 AM) *
A short snippet of C U Next Tuesday has leaked w00t.gif cheer.gif Hopefully it is doing the rounds and it will leak soon teresa.gif


Who said it's legit? It could be made up.

Posted by: Yobnedor Dec 21 2022, 11:23 PM

Wonder if the orange one has it?

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 22 2022, 09:04 AM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Dec 21 2022, 11:18 PM) *
Who said it's legit? It could be made up.


It is defo Mel C and Emma singing

Posted by: Fulvio84 Dec 22 2022, 02:52 PM

definitly wish to liste to the full song and seems better that feed your love (nice to get it but not the best)

Posted by: Equinox8 Dec 22 2022, 08:42 PM

QUOTE(Yobnedor @ Dec 21 2022, 11:23 PM) *
Wonder if the orange one has it?


I've been saying for decades that there are fans who have unreleased tracks. They are part of the 'elite' and they do not share easily, or at all. And interestingly (yet no so), a good proportion of them seem to be in one particular country.

Posted by: Voodoo Dec 22 2022, 08:48 PM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Dec 22 2022, 10:42 PM) *
a good proportion of them seem to be in one particular country.

Which one? Scotland? wink.gif

Posted by: spiceboy Dec 22 2022, 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Dec 22 2022, 08:48 PM) *
Which one? Scotland? wink.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 22 2022, 09:43 PM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:42 PM) *
I've been saying for decades that there are fans who have unreleased tracks. They are part of the 'elite' and they do not share easily, or at all. And interestingly (yet no so), a good proportion of them seem to be in one particular country.


This has been known for ages, even during the old Denden Forums times... They also have WOMAN and apparently a couple of others too!

They wont share it, specially not for free since they could make money from their sale (and they often do! it is when trading and selling happens that often something then leaks online...) . The Spice fandom is known as one of the more stingy ones out there unsure.gif

Posted by: Voodoo Dec 22 2022, 09:58 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 22 2022, 11:43 PM) *
They also have WOMAN

Really? How can you be so sure?

I wonder how they even got it in the first place. From Biff?

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 22 2022, 10:03 PM

You have to take some Spice fans and what they claim to have with a pinch of salt. When certain members of the Spice fandom go to ridiculous lengths to one up each other (who can meet the girls the most, get the most things signed, buy the most copies of a new album/book/etc) I have no doubt there would be plenty of lies too about what they have to make themselves even more important.

Interestingly not only does the clip sound very clean, as in not recorded off a tape, it has also been taken down on twitter for copyright claims. Given whole songs and loads of snippets of unreleased songs are left to be heard on Youtube and elsewhere seems odd they would clamp down on a 3 second clip of C U Next Tuesday. Hopefully there is plans for it, they went taking down the live bootleg screen shows of SW98 before the SW25 release with live tracks from those shows and tour.

Posted by: Merry Christmaz Dec 22 2022, 10:47 PM

The twitter clip has been taken down to copyright issues kinda suspicious… (can someone strangle that orange balloon to leak it or pay him a to have a good fake tan)

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 22 2022, 11:06 PM

Interesting, specially since so many demos are perfectly accessible on YouTube lol

I do hope it leaks in full... Now that would be a lovely Christmas present, since I don't think the girls would have any plans for it to be released any time soon!

Posted by: -Jay- Dec 23 2022, 01:28 AM

How interesting that they'd copyright claim such a short clip drama.gif

Posted by: Equinox8 Dec 23 2022, 01:26 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Dec 23 2022, 01:28 AM) *
How interesting that they'd copyright claim such a short clip drama.gif


Imagine if they put that much effort into SW25!

Posted by: Yobnedor Dec 23 2022, 02:12 PM

QUOTE(Merry Christmaz @ Dec 22 2022, 10:47 PM) *
The twitter clip has been taken down to copyright issues kinda suspicious… (can someone strangle that orange balloon to leak it or pay him a to have a good fake tan)


I love that everyone is finally coming round to an opinion I have held for a long, long time.

Posted by: Voodoo Dec 23 2022, 02:42 PM

On the other hand, everyone came for him for allegedly leaking Song 4 Her and Man on the Mountain, so why do people expect him (or anyone else) to leak more stuff? unsure.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 23 2022, 03:00 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Dec 23 2022, 02:42 PM) *
On the other hand, everyone came for him for allegedly leaking Song 4 Her and Man on the Mountain, so why do people expect him (or anyone else) to leak more stuff? unsure.gif


Thats probably because both of those were projects the girls were recording NEW music and both projects - GEM and Man on the Mountain - were shelved partially as a consequence of the leaks by him. You DO NOT LEAK NEW MUSIC!! That is a basic f***ing rule of any fandom!

You only leak previously unreleased music and demos that wont see the light of day (as confirmed by the recent celebrations anyway).

So, fair enough for people to rebel against those particular leaks, as they were incredibly damaging for the girls as it killed those projects all together. Geri's 4th album was totally scrapped as a consequence. The recordings from the GEM sessions were all scrapped cos the backlash to the quality of Song for Her was so big at the time.

Leaking C U Next Tuesday, a song that was recorded in 1995 and which was scrapped from its intended album and also from its re-release 25 years later, is a totally different thing and wont affect them in the slightest!

Posted by: Merry Christmaz Dec 24 2022, 01:49 PM

The full song has leaked and omg its so good much better than Feed Your Love

Posted by: masahiro Dec 24 2022, 02:18 PM

Wow!
This has b-side vibes, but I really love it!

Posted by: -Jay- Dec 24 2022, 02:20 PM

Oh wow, who'd have thought this would ever leak? ohmy.gif A Christmas miracle!

I wonder why now was the time to leak it? I appreciate it, it just seems so random after years of knowing of its existence.

Apart from the fact the hook spells out a rude word, I couldn't detect any other reasons why this couldn't have found its way onto Spice 25.

I quite like it! I'm not sure how to describe it but to me it sounds like it has a particular 90s vibe to it, but I can't pinpoint what songs in particular it would remind me of. I don't think any of their other songs touched upon this sound. I mean I would say this isn't a gem that is missing from the 'Spice' track list although I think it would have served nicely as a B Side.

I'd say it's a more instant listen than Feed Your Love. Thematically that song seems more overtly filthy than C U Next Tuesday/Likely Stories is, yet they were happy to share Feed Your Love but withhold this one indefinitely?!

Oh these ladies... so baffling!

Posted by: Yobnedor Dec 24 2022, 02:25 PM

Who knows why Spice Girls do anything?!

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 24 2022, 04:10 PM

Oh it's a gorgeous leak!! So exciting!! wub.gif

Glad it is out and yeah, I cant really believe this was VETOED from Spice25... wtf... it's barely 'sexual' or anything else lol

It is very 90s Garbage/Blur and I like it a lot actually. It would have been a cute b-side to Wannabe or even Say You'll Be There ahah

Posted by: tommie Dec 24 2022, 04:20 PM

Using the C U Next Tuesday word is hardly girl power, but at least it's better than the studio version of W.O.M.A.N.!

Posted by: spiceboy Dec 24 2022, 04:20 PM

I quite like it, I agree with above comments it isn't really album worthy but would have served nicely as a b-side and being one of their stronger ones too. Also would have been better for Spice 25 than Feed your love (although really we should have got both!)

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 24 2022, 04:31 PM

QUOTE(tommie @ Dec 24 2022, 04:20 PM) *
Using the C U Next Tuesday word is hardly girl power, but at least it's better than the studio version of W.O.M.A.N.!


the reclamation of the word c**t has been a massive feminist stapple of the last couple generations, same with the word queer. It is rude still, but alas it would have been amazing for a group like them to take that on.

Nonetheless, it should have been a bside or at least in the Spice25 campaign, for sure!

Posted by: michael319 Dec 24 2022, 04:47 PM

QUOTE(Yobnedor @ Dec 21 2022, 07:23 PM) *
Wonder if the orange one has it?



Who is the orange one? Lol. And do we have official title and year for this?

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 24 2022, 04:50 PM

QUOTE(michael319 @ Dec 24 2022, 04:47 PM) *
Who is the orange one? Lol. And do we have official title and year for this?


It was registered as Likely Stories and apparently it was recorded in 1995

Posted by: Voodoo Dec 24 2022, 04:52 PM

QUOTE(michael319 @ Dec 24 2022, 06:47 PM) *
Who is the orange one? Lol.

He Who Must Not Be Named. pirate.gif

Joking

Posted by: michael319 Dec 24 2022, 04:59 PM

Anyone have an hq album cover for unreleased spice girls songs?
Something that’s 1000 by 1000

I need to update these songs with some album art

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 24 2022, 05:28 PM

It is ok. I prefer Feed your love tbh.

Just dumb that this stuff is sat in the vaults when it should be on streaming services gaining streams and money. A 'unreleased' or 'rarities' album is a no brainer, it costs nothing and no one expects it to be as good as Spice or Spiceworld.

Posted by: Equinox8 Dec 24 2022, 06:03 PM

QUOTE(michael319 @ Dec 24 2022, 04:47 PM) *
Who is the orange one? Lol. And do we have official title and year for this?


Former and twice impeached president of the USA, of course! Apparently he's a closeted SG fan:

#GoGoGo to #Mar-A-Lago to find a real #WOMAN, but, #If Ya Do, and she's #TooHot, make sure to #Treasure her, especially if you are only staying #Overnight.

teresa.gif

Crown it.
You're all f#$%in' welcome. dance.gif

Posted by: schizo_spice Dec 24 2022, 06:50 PM

I doubt I’ll listen to this often same as Feed Your Love.

The production is quite interesting though.

Posted by: michael319 Dec 24 2022, 08:25 PM

I am really into it. I love how they say C U Next Tuesday.

Posted by: Sideout Dec 24 2022, 09:36 PM

It's baffling why some of the girls would veto Likely Stories off of Spice 25. It's the perfect type of song that would be released on an anniversary edition of an album.

I like the track. It's nice to have a new group song

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 24 2022, 09:38 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Dec 24 2022, 09:36 PM) *
It's baffling why some of the girls would veto Likely Stories off of Spice 25. It's the perfect type of song that would be released on an anniversary edition of an album.

I like the track. It's nice to have a new group song


Well if I was Victoria I wouldn't want anyone hearing those vocals on that opening verse either. She sounds like someone trying to impersonate someone who cant sing.

Posted by: -Jay- Dec 25 2022, 02:42 AM

Oh I'd say I prefer Likely Stories already. It's punchy, catchy and cheeky - and I don't think it outstays its welcome as an overall listen. Someone suggested to me that its genre is close to Trip hop, I'm no expert but maybe that is indeed the name for the vibe of its production?

Feed Your Love has a nice sensual vibe to it but it's a bit of a slog towards the end, way too repetitive when it could easily be a minute shorter and not lose anything of particular value. According to my Last.fm I only played Feed Your Love 6 times... blush.gif 4 times in July 2021, once in August 2021 and once in November 2021.

Can honestly see myself playing Likely Stories more than that pretty quickly.

Posted by: tommie Dec 25 2022, 05:39 AM

Using the c word isn't feminist and the whole "reclaim words" thing is bs 🤷 So happy they skipped this one, hopefully on true feminist hero Gerita's demand.

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 25 2022, 11:17 AM

QUOTE(tommie @ Dec 25 2022, 05:39 AM) *
Using the c word isn't feminist and the whole "reclaim words" thing is bs 🤷 So happy they skipped this one, hopefully on true feminist hero Gerita's demand.


I know you are joking only cos you labelled Geri has a feminist, which she said she isnt teresa.gif Plus, she votes Tory and there's no way you can be a tory and a feminista.

ANYWAY can we go back to the actual point: It was Geri who blocked its release for being 'too rude' wasnt' it? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Equinox8 Dec 26 2022, 01:37 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 25 2022, 11:17 AM) *
I know you are joking only cos you labelled Geri has a feminist, which she said she isnt teresa.gif Plus, she votes Tory and there's no way you can be a tory and a feminista.

ANYWAY can we go back to the actual point: It was Geri who blocked its release for being 'too rude' wasnt' it? rolleyes.gif


Quick. Someone change the font colour of the song title letters to white!

BAM...on streaming. Just like that! teresa.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 27 2022, 12:19 AM

Was just listening to C U Next Tuesday again and I'm still so happy we got it finally w00t.gif

Also, this is a really good video. The editing is quite cool and charts their whole career wub.gif


Posted by: vibe Dec 27 2022, 04:32 PM

FML is much better but there is no reason to keep this song in the vaults!!

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 27 2022, 05:58 PM

I think what I love the most of this and Feed Your Love is that they show how risky they could be as a group. Both songs were deemed too 'explicit' for their fanbase which is why they were not included at all in the original releases, not even as a bside.

But both show a level of experimentation that was very little seen in girl groups at the time, both sonically and lyrically. A girlband singing about sex and blow jobs, and about calling a guy a c**t? Unprecedented, for sure. They did manage to get away with some sexual innuendo of course, specially in 2 Become 1, Last Time Lover and Naked, but beyond that, not much cos they had their young fanbase to entertain, I guess...

Sonically, both songs really take unprecedented paths to a nice blend between British trip-hop (think Elastica, Blur) and R&B (Janet Jackson) that is quite interesting in my opinion, and could have been really revolutionary in ways that could have expanded the message of acceptance and inclusivity quite nicely!

Really, really glad we got this. At the moment, it is one of my favourite demos from the 90s we've heard so far. It would go:

1. Right Back At Ya (pop)
2. Feed Your Love
3. C U Next Tuesday
4. A Day In Your Life
5. Pain Proof

A lot of the others out there are quite bad imo. I never liked Strong Enough (shit lyrics, jesus christ...) or Give You What You Want (too similar to any of the singles from 5ive).

Now we need to hear WOMAN, Serial Killer and Overnight! Those are the next Spice Holy Grails tongue.gif

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 27 2022, 06:51 PM

I'm not one to agree with Geri but the best 'unreleased' song I've heard or heard parts of is 'we're gonna make it happen' every time I hear it it gets stuck in my head.

Posted by: michael319 Dec 27 2022, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 27 2022, 01:58 PM) *
I think what I love the most of this and Feed Your Love is that they show how risky they could be as a group. Both songs were deemed too 'explicit' for their fanbase which is why they were not included at all in the original releases, not even as a bside.

But both show a level of experimentation that was very little seen in girl groups at the time, both sonically and lyrically. A girlband singing about sex and blow jobs, and about calling a guy a c**t? Unprecedented, for sure. They did manage to get away with some sexual innuendo of course, specially in 2 Become 1, Last Time Lover and Naked, but beyond that, not much cos they had their young fanbase to entertain, I guess...

Sonically, both songs really take unprecedented paths to a nice blend between British trip-hop (think Elastica, Blur) and R&B (Janet Jackson) that is quite interesting in my opinion, and could have been really revolutionary in ways that could have expanded the message of acceptance and inclusivity quite nicely!

Really, really glad we got this. At the moment, it is one of my favourite demos from the 90s we've heard so far. It would go:

1. Right Back At Ya (pop)
2. Feed Your Love
3. C U Next Tuesday
4. A Day In Your Life
5. Pain Proof

A lot of the others out there are quite bad imo. I never liked Strong Enough (shit lyrics, jesus christ...) or Give You What You Want (too similar to any of the singles from 5ive).

Now we need to hear WOMAN, Serial Killer and Overnight! Those are the next Spice Holy Grails tongue.gif


Does anyone actually have the latter?

Posted by: vibe Dec 28 2022, 09:14 AM

^ As other people have mentioned TLC were very cheeky with their lyrics! These songs were totally inspired by them.

Aint To Proud To Beg
Get It Up
Creep
Red Light Special

These are quality songs where the title explains the content!

Posted by: -Jay- Dec 30 2022, 10:28 AM

It took a while to be picked up on but there's now articles about the song having leaked.

Daily Mail: "Spice Girls 'are left red-faced as 30-year-old song with VERY X-rated title is leaked online'"
The Mirror: "Spice Girls horrified as unreleased song with X-rated title emerges on internet"
The Sun: "Spice Girls mortified by re-emergence of X-rated demo of song with filthy title..."

Hmm to think they *might* have avoided such sensationalist headlines if they'd just included the demo on Spice 25 under the title of Likely Stories. Now if anyone's interested in hearing the song after this story they'll just hear it on an unofficial YouTube upload instead of giving them official streams.

These girls heart.gif

Posted by: tommie Dec 30 2022, 10:51 AM

Gerita was right to ban this song, as it both stops them from having anti-feminist sentiments but at the same time they get headlines in the press.

Cunning Queen. Only Diana could plan this better.

Posted by: Mr.X Dec 30 2022, 11:16 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Dec 30 2022, 10:28 AM) *
It took a while to be picked up on but there's now articles about the song having leaked.

Daily Mail: "Spice Girls 'are left red-faced as 30-year-old song with VERY X-rated title is leaked online'"
The Mirror: "Spice Girls horrified as unreleased song with X-rated title emerges on internet"
The Sun: "Spice Girls mortified by re-emergence of X-rated demo of song with filthy title..."

Hmm to think they *might* have avoided such sensationalist headlines if they'd just included the demo on Spice 25 under the title of Likely Stories. Now if anyone's interested in hearing the song after this story they'll just hear it on an unofficial YouTube upload instead of giving them official streams.

These girls heart.gif


The British press continues to be stuck in a gutter of lies and recycled quotes to make up fake articles... I truly detest the british tabloid press, f*** them all.

Of course Spice25 would have had a bit more publicity if C U Next Tuesday was released in it, and it would have probably been received in a much better light than this, in the context of that release.

Posted by: Blond 2.0 Jan 1 2023, 01:55 AM

C U Next Tuesday is not that bad I like it more than feed your love it's very chucky lol

Posted by: Piers Jan 1 2023, 03:23 AM

Lol. These tabloid headlines really are something, aren't they? Are the girls honestly horrified, mortified, and red faced by this song? The tabloids aren't even reporting the correct title...

Ultimately, I'm a little lost on why there's so much pearl-clutching with this track. Yes, I'm fully aware that they're referencing a naughty word. But. I don't know. Not only are they not actually saying it, they're not even totally spelling it out? Is this really that upsetting? Yes, there were kids who bought their records, but the Spice Girls always had a bit of edge. To me, this song's not out of step with the group we see in the Say You'll Be There and Who Do You Think Are videos. But what do I know?

I'm late to the party on this, but I'm finally getting a listen...and by and large, I do like the song. Personally, I prefer Feed Your Love...and I don't think Likely Stories is deserving of album placement or anything. It does get off on the wrong foot with Victoria's vocals being a bad fit for those opening lines. It needs someone bolder like Mel B. BUT. All that said, it's catchy. I like Geri's little additions here and there. Quirky. Fun. Would have made for a good b-side at some point. For me, this certainly beats Spice Invaders or just skipping a fresh b-side like Stop and Viva Forever did. Was the naughty line the only thing preventing it from inclusion somewhere? If so, was it just impossible for them to figure out another line to put there? The world of music's filled with songs that started with far edgier lyrics than the ones we know now...just ask Chic's Le Freak and Little Richard's Tutti Fruitti....

Posted by: Voodoo Jan 3 2023, 07:51 AM

Biff confirmed that the leaked song is called Likely Stories:


Posted by: isanka Jan 3 2023, 08:11 AM

Need a better production.

Posted by: Babyboy Jan 17 2023, 06:20 PM

On Spice Circle someone posted a clip of Go Go Go.

Posted by: Maz! Jan 17 2023, 07:12 PM

So a clip from Go Go Go has leaked on Spice Circle, i guess the full song will be out soon lmao

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 17 2023, 08:24 PM

Sounds great!!! Mel B is on the lead in the clip.

This is from the Forever sessions!!

I HOPE IT LEAKS IN FULL!!!!

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 17 2023, 08:25 PM

For those who missed it:


Posted by: Voodoo Jan 17 2023, 08:45 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 17 2023, 10:24 PM) *
Mel B is on the lead in the clip.

Is she? I mostly hear Victoria.

Posted by: Rebel Jan 17 2023, 08:51 PM

It’s full on Victoria. I don’t hear Mel B at all.

Posted by: Maz! Jan 17 2023, 08:54 PM

I hear Victoria and Emma.
One thing i dont understand or believe is that this comes from a vinyl? that´s such a weird thing to leak from idk

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 17 2023, 10:05 PM

Oh maybe it is Victoria!! For some reason it gave me Mel B vibes at first...

This is a vocal stem though right?

Posted by: Sideout Jan 17 2023, 10:50 PM

Very interesting that Biff songs are now leaking. You would think Biff would have these songs under lock and key. Especially after what happened to Elliot Kennedy.

Posted by: -Jay- Jan 17 2023, 10:54 PM

Seems it's only chorus vocal stems with some background vocals. Better than nothing but a bit bizarre, particularly that they're randomly on vinyl?!

Posted by: Equinox8 Jan 17 2023, 11:51 PM

Verrrrrry inchresting.

Re: the vinyl spinning -- could it be that the spinning LP is just a video used with Go Go Go playing from another source as an overlay audio? It would be very odd indeed if vocal stems were pressed to vinyl for a song that was never pressed to CD in mixed form. Unless of course there's an acapella-ish bit in the song.

We'll find out in a few days... newleft.png

Until then: the harmony in the clip sounds nice. Dare I say: it has more soul than tracks 4,5 and 6 on Forever.

Posted by: schizo_spice Jan 18 2023, 12:10 AM

It sounds ok better than most of what’s on Forever anyway. Darkchild for me sucked out all of what made them unique in their own way.

Posted by: Rebel Jan 18 2023, 03:52 AM

Why is it on vinyl though? Was it planned to be released on it? Ho many tracks are on if?

Posted by: Babyboy Jan 18 2023, 04:53 AM

Should be on cassette. Anyway the guy is finding a conveter to share the Song.

Posted by: spiceboy Jan 18 2023, 09:47 AM

QUOTE(Babyboy @ Jan 18 2023, 04:53 AM) *
Should be on cassette. Anyway the guy is finding a conveter to share the Song.



Amazing!!! w00t.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 18 2023, 10:41 AM

If this is from that Biff demos CD he posted about on Instagram, then his Forever demos are about to be leaked INCLUDING Too Hot and Overnight (1999) as well!!!

Posted by: Rebel Jan 18 2023, 11:34 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 18 2023, 11:41 AM) *
If this is from that Biff demos CD he posted about on Instagram, then his Forever demos are about to be leaked INCLUDING Too Hot and Overnight (1999) as well!!!



Don’t forget W.O.M.A.N. cheer.gif yahoo.gif dance.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 18 2023, 12:35 PM

Truly this would be just incredible! Even just having Go Go Go would be an amazing treat!

And to think that since the girls really buffed up the Spiceworld25 tracklist, the fans are the ones coming forward with the goods cool.gif

Posted by: Equinox8 Jan 18 2023, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 18 2023, 12:35 PM) *
Truly this would be just incredible! Even just having Go Go Go would be an amazing treat!

And to think that since the girls really buffed up YouTube'd the Spiceworld25 tracklist, the fans are the ones coming forward with the goods cool.gif


Made a little edit.

Sorry 'bout iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit teresa.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 19 2023, 01:54 AM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Jan 18 2023, 09:01 PM) *
Made a little edit.

Sorry 'bout iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit teresa.gif


Don't be sorry cos technically you are not wrong teresa.gif

I still cant quite believe they RELEASED YOUTUBE RIPS as official products. Like, people paid €30 for that... Wild to me...

For me, this was one of the low points in their career. Could nobody really see an issue with it before release? Did anyone actually HEAR the music before approving it?... blink.gif

Posted by: Rebel Jan 19 2023, 05:15 AM

I really wonder what happened between Spice25 to SW25. They seem to give up on putting effort on SW25. Did Spice25 underwhelm in terms of sales so that Universal just cut their budget?

Posted by: Voodoo Jan 19 2023, 07:55 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 19 2023, 03:54 AM) *
I still cant quite believe they RELEASED YOUTUBE RIPS as official products.

Why do you present it as a solid fact? This is just a myth. They have access to the original VHS tapes. I'm sure that's the source they've used.

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 19 2023, 12:12 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Jan 19 2023, 07:55 AM) *
Why do you present it as a solid fact? This is just a myth. They have access to the original VHS tapes. I'm sure that's the source they've used.


It is not a myth as many fans have shown proof of it being the same files, levels of sounds, etc, all over the internet (for instance Popjustice and Spice Circle). Plus, the Step To Me demo that was included on Spiceword25 is a fan-made slowed down version which was on YouTube, when we know the actual demo that was leaked years ago was much faster.

Sorry pal, but it is not a myth at all. This is what happened.

Not sure it happened to all the tracks, as for instance the Spice Up Your Life live track was on YouTube but for all we know it could have been uploaded from the same VHS tape as you say. BUT in that case, it was an damn shame that no mastering was done at all before release, which is just as bad as ripping from YouTube without any editing/mastering done either...

Posted by: Voodoo Jan 19 2023, 12:41 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 19 2023, 02:12 PM) *
It is not a myth as many fans have shown proof of it being the same files, levels of sounds, etc, all over the internet (for instance Popjustice and Spice Circle). Plus, the Step To Me demo that was included on Spiceword25 is a fan-made slowed down version which was on YouTube, when we know the actual demo that was leaked years ago was much faster.

Sorry pal, but it is not a myth at all. This is what happened.

Why would the sound levels be different? Does YouTube change sound levels? I don't think so.

As for the Step to Me demo, I remember someone saying that the slowed down version is the original one, and that it wasn't slowed down by a fan.

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 19 2023, 03:01 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Jan 19 2023, 12:41 PM) *
Why would the sound levels be different? Does YouTube change sound levels? I don't think so.

As for the Step to Me demo, I remember someone saying that the slowed down version is the original one, and that it wasn't slowed down by a fan.


Exactly, YouTube doesnt change the levels (though like facebook, it does compress quality when uploading and downloading). And the levels and quality of the tracks that were on YouTube are the same as the CD ones, you can understand how fans pointed that out no? Also, the Step To Me original demo was faster, which was leaked years and years ago. The slowed down one was uploaded after the original got removed off YouTube for licensensing purposes. The slowed down one was created by a fan to make sure it wasnt removed...

Sorry but it is quite obvious that some were ripped from YouTube, and whilst others were from original tapes, they werent mastered. Both are incredibly unprofessional ways of releasing music and you could expect fans to demand better, specially on overpriced releases no?

Posted by: Voodoo Jan 19 2023, 03:12 PM

^ I meant that I expect the sound levels to be the same on the VHS tapes and when uploaded to YouTube.

Posted by: -Jay- Jan 22 2023, 04:50 AM

This is where the Go Go Go clip came from, a single sided vinyl: https://www.discogs.com/release/25522897-Spice-Girls-Untitled

Including these tracks:
A1 Woman Vocals 3:00
A2 Go, Go, Go Guitar 1:12
A3 Go, Go, Go Bridge Chorus Vocals 1:21
A4 Go, Go, Go Drum Groove 1:23
A5 Too Hot Vocal 3:10
A6 Bits, drum beats 0:29

It doesn’t seem that it’ll leak in full imminently. Whoever it is that owns this on Spice Circle says they’re looking for a way to convert them digitally.

So Woman and Too Hot are just acapellas but seemingly full length, while there’s different elements of Go Go Go but not in full. Interesting… I hope we get to hear them soon because it’s certainly better than nothing! I honestly had no idea that by 1999 that vinyl would be used in this way for incomplete tracks thinking.gif

Their post on Spice Circle:

Re: Go, Go, Go…

Hi All,

So I feel I need to post this to clear a few things up as I’m getting loads of messages asking me to leak tracks.

Also, I’ve removed my name from this post for reasons that should be obvious.

On Tuesday I posted a small video clip of myself playing Go, Go, Go.
Call me naive but I didn’t realise how quickly this would leave a PRIVATE Facebook group! I knew it would eventually - hence the very small clip - but some of you didn’t waste any time in boosting your social media views. And yes, I’m very well aware I don’t own the music but wow, use your brain.
Within MINUTES my video was reshared on here (why?!), posted to You Tube, audio ripped and spread across Instagram and appeared on forums like Popjustice where people were discussing where it came from, the legitimacy and how I promised to share the rest. Somebody even insinuated it was stolen from Biff - which simply isn’t true. It actually scared how me quick it spread. It’s even been blogged about! The amount of private messages and comments I received that night was insane. And I’m still receiving some now. So, I panicked and deleted the original post. (I mean, it’s on YT now anyway if you wanna listen)

But let’s clear this up - I DO NOT have the full, finished track. I can literally sense the dissapointment as you read that! But I never said I did - yet people are jumping ahead making artwork for it etc. In amongst all the excitement many didn’t seem to notice it was just an acapella and I didn’t engage in many comments and posts because of the madness. It was Too Much.

OK. So why is it on vinyl and what else is on it? Those were the common questions - so let me leave this here…

https://www.discogs.com/release/25522897-Spice-Girls-Untitled

It’s been listed on Discogs - public domain - since last year.
Yes it also has Too Hot, and yes… Woman. However these aren’t the full tracks. They are vocal / acapella tracks and a couple of guitar and drum tracks. They may not be the finished things but it is a unique, interesting and exciting listen - and possibly the only way we may hear these for a long time (if at all). It’s better than nothing!

So there 2 reasons I posted it.

1 - I genuinely wanted everybody to hear a bit of it and bring some positivity to the group. Spice World 25 was dissapointing and I saw how happy the C U Next Tuesday leak made everybody. And apart from Mel’s new music, 2023 is looking pretty quiet in Spice World. I wanted to provide a little lift.

2 - I’m also well aware there is other stuff out there amongst fans and collectors. My aim is to encourage more to start sharing if they want to hear more.

Whatever you believe my intentions were (there will always be the negative ones who have no clue), I never set out to just tease. I hate those kind of fans! I would love more than anything to share the contents of the vinyl - even though they’re not the full tracks. However I did have a few messages reminding me that these are unreleased and due to the source of the vinyl it could be traced back to me (only a handful of these exist). It might also harm our chances of getting them officially in the future. Hence why I panicked and now I have no idea what to do? As somebody mentioned in another post - All eyes are on this and I do not want to get into trouble.

Lastly I simply cannot just share them right now anyway. They’re on vinyl. I do not have these digitally. YET. I don’t have the means to do it BUT I am working on it and it will be done in my leisure (just started a teaching job in the evenings after my full time job and I’m super busy!). Patience is a virtue.

So I’m sorry, there isn’t about to be a bunch of Forever session leaks. At least not from me.

I’m sure you’ll hear these in the not too distant future. Let the madness die down first. Just keep the faith and let love lead the way… ✌��

Posted by: Rebel Jan 22 2023, 04:59 AM

I knew it would get him in trouble because he fully admitted to owning it so I knew the team could reach out to him. Just drop them online and nobody needs to know!

Posted by: Voodoo Jan 22 2023, 08:45 PM

Likely Stories was leaked completely anonymously and it went completely fine. I really don't get what he was trying to achieve by sharing that snippet without hiding his identity. thinking.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 22 2023, 09:11 PM

Yeah he seems scared specially as he was very clearly stating that he was gonna share the full thing, so now he is retracting!

Doesnt surprise me that the vinyl is just stems of vocals and other bits, and not the full songs! From that Go Go Go clip, it was clear that it was only vocals and melodies, not a single instrument was heard.

So Im torn. I want to listen to them but at the same time Id rather hear it first in full and then go back to the stems..

Posted by: michael319 Jan 23 2023, 12:41 AM

Someone could likely
Make instrumentals that go with it tho.

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 23 2023, 01:31 AM

It still wouldnt be the actual song though

Posted by: Equinox8 Jan 23 2023, 01:35 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Jan 22 2023, 04:50 AM) *
This is where the Go Go Go clip came from, a single sided vinyl: https://www.discogs.com/release/25522897-Spice-Girls-Untitled

Including these tracks:
A1 Woman Vocals 3:00
A2 Go, Go, Go Guitar 1:12
A3 Go, Go, Go Bridge Chorus Vocals 1:21
A4 Go, Go, Go Drum Groove 1:23
A5 Too Hot Vocal 3:10
A6 Bits, drum beats 0:29

It doesn’t seem that it’ll leak in full imminently. Whoever it is that owns this on Spice Circle says they’re looking for a way to convert them digitally.

So Woman and Too Hot are just acapellas but seemingly full length, while there’s different elements of Go Go Go but not in full. Interesting… I hope we get to hear them soon because it’s certainly better than nothing! I honestly had no idea that by 1999 that vinyl would be used in this way for incomplete tracks thinking.gif

Their post on Spice Circle:

Re: Go, Go, Go…

Hi All,

So I feel I need to post this to clear a few things up as I’m getting loads of messages asking me to leak tracks.

Also, I’ve removed my name from this post for reasons that should be obvious.

On Tuesday I posted a small video clip of myself playing Go, Go, Go.
Call me naive but I didn’t realise how quickly this would leave a PRIVATE Facebook group! I knew it would eventually - hence the very small clip - but some of you didn’t waste any time in boosting your social media views. And yes, I’m very well aware I don’t own the music but wow, use your brain.
Within MINUTES my video was reshared on here (why?!), posted to You Tube, audio ripped and spread across Instagram and appeared on forums like Popjustice where people were discussing where it came from, the legitimacy and how I promised to share the rest. Somebody even insinuated it was stolen from Biff - which simply isn’t true. It actually scared how me quick it spread. It’s even been blogged about! The amount of private messages and comments I received that night was insane. And I’m still receiving some now. So, I panicked and deleted the original post. (I mean, it’s on YT now anyway if you wanna listen)

But let’s clear this up - I DO NOT have the full, finished track. I can literally sense the dissapointment as you read that! But I never said I did - yet people are jumping ahead making artwork for it etc. In amongst all the excitement many didn’t seem to notice it was just an acapella and I didn’t engage in many comments and posts because of the madness. It was Too Much.

OK. So why is it on vinyl and what else is on it? Those were the common questions - so let me leave this here…

https://www.discogs.com/release/25522897-Spice-Girls-Untitled

It’s been listed on Discogs - public domain - since last year.
Yes it also has Too Hot, and yes… Woman. However these aren’t the full tracks. They are vocal / acapella tracks and a couple of guitar and drum tracks. They may not be the finished things but it is a unique, interesting and exciting listen - and possibly the only way we may hear these for a long time (if at all). It’s better than nothing!

So there 2 reasons I posted it.

1 - I genuinely wanted everybody to hear a bit of it and bring some positivity to the group. Spice World 25 was dissapointing and I saw how happy the C U Next Tuesday leak made everybody. And apart from Mel’s new music, 2023 is looking pretty quiet in Spice World. I wanted to provide a little lift.

2 - I’m also well aware there is other stuff out there amongst fans and collectors. My aim is to encourage more to start sharing if they want to hear more.

Whatever you believe my intentions were (there will always be the negative ones who have no clue), I never set out to just tease. I hate those kind of fans! I would love more than anything to share the contents of the vinyl - even though they’re not the full tracks. However I did have a few messages reminding me that these are unreleased and due to the source of the vinyl it could be traced back to me (only a handful of these exist). It might also harm our chances of getting them officially in the future. Hence why I panicked and now I have no idea what to do? As somebody mentioned in another post - All eyes are on this and I do not want to get into trouble.

Lastly I simply cannot just share them right now anyway. They’re on vinyl. I do not have these digitally. YET. I don’t have the means to do it BUT I am working on it and it will be done in my leisure (just started a teaching job in the evenings after my full time job and I’m super busy!). Patience is a virtue.

So I’m sorry, there isn’t about to be a bunch of Forever session leaks. At least not from me.

I’m sure you’ll hear these in the not too distant future. Let the madness die down first. Just keep the faith and let love lead the way… ✌��



I wouldn't normally quote a message this long, but I wanted to in this case so that the context of my opinion is clear. I've read (a few times now) the message that Jay posted from that user, and I can't shake this feeling: that writing style is one that I have read before, back in the days of DenDen. The part that struck me the most was this:

"However I did have a few messages reminding me that these are unreleased and due to the source of the vinyl it could be traced back to me (only a handful of these exist). It might also harm our chances of getting them officially in the future."

I (we) have read this type of message before. It just immediately reminds me of the buzz that was swarming just around the time when the Kennedy tracks were being teased around, and also financially campaigned for at the same time with the caveat of: "follow these instructions or we might never get them." And then Regina Phalange descended and blew that out of the water.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. I know it's their cheese because they refuse to use preservatives, but aside from that ...

1) why would those vocals/beats be pressed to vinyl (of all formats) in 1999?
2) I don't see this as a coincidence at ALL that Likely Stories just leaked before this.
3) Does anyone have access to that screenshot from a few years ago of someone's digital music player that listed all of the Biff tracks and the time lengths for each? It was largely "poo-poo'd" on by everyone, but I'm curious to know what the runtime for WOMAN was given that the vocal-only track clocks in at 3:00


Posted by: schizo_spice Jan 23 2023, 11:57 AM

Wish it had just been the full Woman song in whatever stage it was at. Give fans that closure at long last lol

Posted by: -Jay- Jan 23 2023, 12:21 PM

Hopefully we'll get it someday cry.gif

Apparently "Woman Vocals" on this vinyl is just the chorus looped over and over unsure.gif

Whoever created this vinyl in 1999 really wanted to make sure we were all trolled in 2023 cheer.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 23 2023, 01:13 PM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Jan 23 2023, 01:35 AM) *
I wouldn't normally quote a message this long, but I wanted to in this case so that the context of my opinion is clear. I've read (a few times now) the message that Jay posted from that user, and I can't shake this feeling: that writing style is one that I have read before, back in the days of DenDen. The part that struck me the most was this:

"However I did have a few messages reminding me that these are unreleased and due to the source of the vinyl it could be traced back to me (only a handful of these exist). It might also harm our chances of getting them officially in the future."

I (we) have read this type of message before. It just immediately reminds me of the buzz that was swarming just around the time when the Kennedy tracks were being teased around, and also financially campaigned for at the same time with the caveat of: "follow these instructions or we might never get them." And then Regina Phalange descended and blew that out of the water.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. I know it's their cheese because they refuse to use preservatives, but aside from that ...

1) why would those vocals/beats be pressed to vinyl (of all formats) in 1999?
2) I don't see this as a coincidence at ALL that Likely Stories just leaked before this.
3) Does anyone have access to that screenshot from a few years ago of someone's digital music player that listed all of the Biff tracks and the time lengths for each? It was largely "poo-poo'd" on by everyone, but I'm curious to know what the runtime for WOMAN was given that the vocal-only track clocks in at 3:00


1) it was common back in the 90s to record music onto tapes and vinyls as technically, those are still the better formats for quality of music reproduction. Vinyls were used all the time specially for internal promos and to pass on music from one person to another in order to keep the quality has high as possible. CDs are shite compared to vinyls, for instance.

2) Technically the two seem unreleased so far but the most probably was that this fan was inspired by the C U Next Tuesday leak and wanted to share some stuff too.

3) Dont know about that? I only know of the image that Biff posted on instagram back in the day that was from a promo CD with these tracks. Only Treasure said 'demo' I believe, the others were labelled with just the titles.

IF the tracks on this album do end up leaking, I hope that full songs also leak cos damn it will be really a blood bath on Spice Circle with idiotic 'fans' crying that it is all shit and 'not as good as Wannabe' or whatever those people constantly say about ANY leak whatsoever...

Trully, this is one frustrating comunity... There are people - the so-called Spice Elite - who have so many tracks and they never share them, ever. Screw them!

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 23 2023, 01:15 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Jan 23 2023, 12:21 PM) *
Hopefully we'll get it someday cry.gif

Apparently "Woman Vocals" on this vinyl is just the chorus looped over and over unsure.gif

Whoever created this vinyl in 1999 really wanted to make sure we were all trolled in 2023 cheer.gif


Jesus please don't leak this... we need it to be the full song please!

Posted by: Voodoo Jan 23 2023, 01:20 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 23 2023, 03:13 PM) *
There are people - the so-called Spice Elite - who have so many tracks and they never share them, ever. Screw them!

Do we know who they are though? Is one of them the admin that promised to share a never-seen-before Spiceworld show?

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 23 2023, 01:32 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Jan 23 2023, 01:20 PM) *
Do we know who they are though? Is one of them the admin that promised to share a never-seen-before Spiceworld show?


There are various people, although it is a small clique as far as we know. Orangetina and his Look At Me friend, I believe, are part of it or at least were at some point. But it is a bit nebulous...

We know some who have content and have bragged about it online. There is that Spice Circle Youtube account that was started by someone on SC and shared the High quality video of Never Give Up On the Good Times live, with promises of more to come, but it has been months and nothing has come from it...

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 23 2023, 02:35 PM

Go Go Go sounds IMMENSE!!!

Imagine a pop album in 1999 with a single run of,

Right Back At Ya
W.O.M.A.N
Go Go Go!
Pain Proof/ Strongest Suit

Some of those songs sound like 5 songs, but okay, lots of pop alnums have filler. I'm sure we couldn't begrudge the Spicy Ladies having a few on the third album after Geri's surprise exit, especially if the rnb album still came in 2000!! It's not like those demos are bad pop filler anyway.

It would also rebalance their discography, so there weren't so many ballads vs up-tempos.

Their albums were usually ten tracks anyway, so One Day In Your Life, those pop demos, and they're almost at a whole album!! They basically had a whole pop album ready to go, which they should have done after losing a member! Goodbye would have gone on it, too, so the album was basically ready to go.

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 23 2023, 02:40 PM

They could even have released Go, Go, Go before Right Back At Ya as a pot-shot at Geri!! laugh.gif Then Right Back At Ya would cement thrn, then onto W.O.M.A.N, the biggest hit, and finish it up with the post-album Steongest Suit/ Pain Proof double A-side.

Posted by: -Jay- Jan 23 2023, 04:04 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 23 2023, 01:13 PM) *
CDs are shite compared to vinyls, for instance.

Hmm, strongly disagree with that, in terms of data storage at least...



In technical terms, this is hardly a discussion. In technical terms, CD (and CD-quality audio on a computer) is several orders of magnitude better than vinyl, or even analog master tape at 7.5 inches per second:

Digital playback has no deviation in playback speed, whereas any analog medium suffers from numerous such artifacts, mainly classified into "Wow" (slow variations in speed/pitch) and "Flutter" (faster variations)

Channel separation is limited on analog, determined by both the medium (whether vinyl or master tape) and by the electronics.

Both distortion and frequency response on vinyl is dependent on whether you're on the outer or inner-groove. These effects are so severe that they by necessity affects how you can order tracks when mastering for vinyl

All analog storage media, whether vinyl or tape will lose fidelity with every single playback. The same applies to the reading mechanism (pickup/needle or tape head). The reading mechanism further requires maintenance and periodic replacement, and you will periodically need to clean all aspects of it. The CD is much more robust, and will provide perfect reading even for damaged CD's.


https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/7k91z3/cd_vs_vinyl_which_is_better_in_terms_of_audio/

Posted by: dancinqueen Jan 23 2023, 04:06 PM

QUOTE(Amanda Hugginkis @ Jan 23 2023, 03:40 PM) *
They could even have released Go, Go, Go before Right Back At Ya as a pot-shot at Geri!! laugh.gif Then Right Back At Ya would cement thrn, then onto W.O.M.A.N, the biggest hit, and finish it up with the post-album Steongest Suit/ Pain Proof double A-side.


WOMAN is their worst song in terms of lyrics, but I love the potential funky / 70s dance vibe. Go, Go, Go sounds so Victoria’s first record-breaking album (contains hit single I.O.U.). Too Hot might be related to Mel B’s first platinum record (followed by Grammy-winning Album of The Year, L.A. State of Mind), RBAY is also another let down in terms of lyrics. You can see Geri’s storytelling was missing after she left. They went from Viva Forever to sing about wearing G-string. The same way, Geri alone is not as good as we thought when it comes to writing by herself. That proves that should ONLY release new music if all 5 are on board. That’s where the magic happens!

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 23 2023, 04:42 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Jan 23 2023, 04:04 PM) *
Hmm, strongly disagree with that, in terms of data storage at least...
In technical terms, this is hardly a discussion. In technical terms, CD (and CD-quality audio on a computer) is several orders of magnitude better than vinyl, or even analog master tape at 7.5 inches per second:

Digital playback has no deviation in playback speed, whereas any analog medium suffers from numerous such artifacts, mainly classified into "Wow" (slow variations in speed/pitch) and "Flutter" (faster variations)

Channel separation is limited on analog, determined by both the medium (whether vinyl or master tape) and by the electronics.

Both distortion and frequency response on vinyl is dependent on whether you're on the outer or inner-groove. These effects are so severe that they by necessity affects how you can order tracks when mastering for vinyl

All analog storage media, whether vinyl or tape will lose fidelity with every single playback. The same applies to the reading mechanism (pickup/needle or tape head). The reading mechanism further requires maintenance and periodic replacement, and you will periodically need to clean all aspects of it. The CD is much more robust, and will provide perfect reading even for damaged CD's.


https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/7k91z3/cd_vs_vinyl_which_is_better_in_terms_of_audio/


Oh I was talking about sound quality, not data. Part of the vinyl resurgence in recent years is the fact that people got bored with the more industrial-sounds of CDs and laptops, whereas Vinyls gives you a more wholesome and broader sound quality.

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 23 2023, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(schizo_spice @ Jan 18 2023, 12:10 AM) *
It sounds ok better than most of what’s on Forever anyway. Darkchild for me sucked out all of what made them unique in their own way.



100% OMG THIS!!!!

He sucked all the life and Spice out of thrm and left them with one of the worst albums OF ALL TIME!!!

And when they had this pop album all ready to go in 1999 to save their legacy omg!!!

Posted by: dromeda Jan 23 2023, 05:15 PM

QUOTE(dancinqueen @ Jan 23 2023, 04:06 PM) *
That proves that should ONLY release new music if all 5 are on board. That’s where the magic happens!


Yeh! Like Voodoo sick2.gif Voodoo is definitely magic! Thing is.. or they partner with big and current names in pop/electronic music or forget about it.

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 23 2023, 05:26 PM

The problem is they forbid their two lead producers from working with them AND Geri, and they chose Geri...

Had they not done that and released this pop album, magic! They could even have released We Are Family here for a 5th no.1 from the ssme album, too.

They missed a HUGE opportunity in 1998 to cement their legacy. Everything would have benefitted - they could have varied the setlists on tour, had more songs for the musical, had more streaming songs, etc. They also missed out on not making a Christmas song or album!

Posted by: spiceboy Jan 23 2023, 05:30 PM

QUOTE(dromeda @ Jan 23 2023, 05:15 PM) *
Yeh! Like Voodoo sick2.gif Voodoo is definitely magic! Thing is.. or they partner with big and current names in pop/electronic music or forget about it.



Voodoo was from the sessions with Emma and Geri not sessions with all 5.

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 23 2023, 05:40 PM

QUOTE(dancinqueen @ Jan 23 2023, 04:06 PM) *
WOMAN is their worst song in terms of lyrics, but I love the potential funky / 70s dance vibe. Go, Go, Go sounds so Victoria’s first record-breaking album (contains hit single I.O.U.). Too Hot might be related to Mel B’s first platinum record (followed by Grammy-winning Album of The Year, L.A. State of Mind), RBAY is also another let down in terms of lyrics. You can see Geri’s storytelling was missing after she left. They went from Viva Forever to sing about wearing G-string. The same way, Geri alone is not as good as we thought when it comes to writing by herself. That proves that should ONLY release new music if all 5 are on board. That’s where the magic happens!


What the hell are you smoking over there hun? Pass that dutch please cos that was a wild ride of a post lol

You're judging demos of unfinished songs that you havent even heard in full based on pure conjecture and your preference for Geri's work. Geri, the artist responsible for some of pop's most cringe lyrical content ever like Bag It Up, Half of Me and most of her post Schizo work?

Like, lyrically Forever was definitely an improvement (even if you don't like the music itself/the record). It was just different things they were writing about. Songs like Wasting My Time, If You Wanna Have Some Fun, Oxygen, Holler and Tell Me Why are cleverly written, on the same standards as Spice and Spiceworld.

None of their solo works compare to quality of the writing of the group's output, even though Northern Star, Schizo and Free Me get very close. In each occasion, they were working with top notch producers/writers (William Orbit, Ret Lawrence, Biff) and also including producers/writers who already had a strong history with them (again Biff and Absolute in the case of Geri).

In the case of NS and Forever, they had a strong backing from Virgin's A&R team. By the year 2001, that team had moved on to other artists and didn't work on their solo works anymore.

What does that indicate to you? That Geri was the cherry on the cake of the writing OR that after they left their group's teams they had no more access to top notch producers/writers and quality A&R teams to support them?

The quality in music and lyrics went south after 2000, and thats not because Geri wasnt in the group. It was because they had changed and were no longer working with the people who got the best lyrical content off them.

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 23 2023, 07:51 PM

I think the lyrics sound great! Spices have always been a bit spicy. I see no problem with it.

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 23 2023, 07:53 PM

Hollier is VERY well written. The rest... But I completely agree with what you're saying; the change in producers will have had a massive #IMPAKT!!

Posted by: dancinqueen Jan 23 2023, 10:04 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 23 2023, 06:40 PM) *
What the hell are you smoking over there hun? Pass that dutch please cos that was a wild ride of a post lol

You're judging demos of unfinished songs that you havent even heard in full based on pure conjecture and your preference for Geri's work. Geri, the artist responsible for some of pop's most cringe lyrical content ever like Bag It Up, Half of Me and most of her post Schizo work?

Like, lyrically Forever was definitely an improvement (even if you don't like the music itself/the record). It was just different things they were writing about. Songs like Wasting My Time, If You Wanna Have Some Fun, Oxygen, Holler and Tell Me Why are cleverly written, on the same standards as Spice and Spiceworld.

None of their solo works compare to quality of the writing of the group's output, even though Northern Star, Schizo and Free Me get very close. In each occasion, they were working with top notch producers/writers (William Orbit, Ret Lawrence, Biff) and also including producers/writers who already had a strong history with them (again Biff and Absolute in the case of Geri).

In the case of NS and Forever, they had a strong backing from Virgin's A&R team. By the year 2001, that team had moved on to other artists and didn't work on their solo works anymore.

What does that indicate to you? That Geri was the cherry on the cake of the writing OR that after they left their group's teams they had no more access to top notch producers/writers and quality A&R teams to support them?

The quality in music and lyrics went south after 2000, and thats not because Geri wasnt in the group. It was because they had changed and were no longer working with the people who got the best lyrical content off them.


Dwarling, never been a huge Gerita’s fan, but I recon she did bring something to the table back then. She’s not the best singer, she was the worst dancer, but no one can’t tell me she wasn’t crucial when it came to writing. She was an explosion of ideas!

PS: solo work? I hate her solo music! My faves have always been the Mels!

Posted by: neill2407 Jan 25 2023, 12:54 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 23 2023, 05:40 PM) *
Nine

None of their solo works compare to quality of the writing of the group's output, even though Northern Star, Schizo and Free Me get very close. In each occasion, they were working with top notch producers/writers (William Orbit, Ret Lawrence, Biff) and also including producers/writers who already had a strong history with them (again Biff and Absolute in the case of Geri).

In the case of NS and Forever, they had a strong backing from Virgin's A&R team. By the year 2001, that team had moved on to other artists and didn't work on their solo works anymore.

What does that indicate to you? That Geri was the cherry on the cake of the writing OR that after they left their group's teams they had no more access to top notch producers/writers and quality A&R teams to support them?

The quality in music and lyrics went south after 2000, and thats not because Geri wasnt in the group. It was because they had changed and were no longer working with the people who got the best lyrical content off them.


That’s your opinion - I think Mel C’s solo material is far better and more credible than most of the material released by the Spice Girls.

Posted by: colinn Jan 25 2023, 12:14 PM

In my opinion, Northern Star is better than any Spice album.

I'm also surprised Virgin didn't give Reason a stronger push, considering they focused more on Melanie than the group during 99/2000. Maybe they realised the material wasn't as strong as her debut.

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 25 2023, 02:50 PM

Northern Star is better, but that's it. She had grrat producers for it. For a second album like that, but with a natural, non-grunge evolution, well even super grunge with Goin Down levels across an album would work, she needed top producers again.

Spices really threw it all away in 1999.

1. Right Back At Ya - release BOTH versions and send thrm to rnb and pop radio in US

2. GO GO GO - massive press about this and Geri.

3. W.O.M.A.N - summer dance SMASH. They never released a proper dance song.

4. We are Family/ Strongest Suit

5. Pain Proof

FIVE no.1s from the same album in one year just waiting in it! Okay, some tracks might be filler on the album, but they have six songs, plus Goodbye, so three more of a lesser quality isn't massively bad. This would have balanced their VERY BALLAD HEAVY discography more, too, and created a LESS MOROSE musical.

End of 2000, keep goin, next album. Hollier, Walk of Life x4 with Billie Piper, and final ever single, If You Wanna (Have Some Fun) (Loving ... On Your Mind?) (Have Some Fun) (Are You Having Fun)? Get a final top 5.

I would also have released a Christmas album AND A HALLOWEEN SONG. They woulf have definitely suited a Halloween classic.

Posted by: spiceboy Jan 25 2023, 07:35 PM

They never released a proper dance song? Who do you think you are is dancing in front of you right now!

Also I agree Northern Star is better than any Spice album. I personally prefer Spiceworld (the ultimate perfect pop album for me) but Northern Star is a stronger body of work. It really was an utter triumph for Melanie at the time and she deserved even more success with it (even if it did do pretty well).

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 25 2023, 07:39 PM

It's dancy, but hardly a dancehall smash!!

W.O.M.A.N was their All! (Fired Up)

Posted by: Sideout Jan 25 2023, 07:43 PM

The girls have at least 10- 14 useable unreleased tracks. They should have released these songs over the course of the next ten years on different releases.

The girls should have planned the next ten years out. At some point the girls will have to say farewell. I don't see them touring in their 60's.

July 2021 - Rarities album

2023 - 25th anniversary world tour

November 2026 - 30th anniversary edition of Spice

November 2027 - 30th anniversary edition of Spiceworld

2028/2029 - Farewell world tour

2030 - 30th anniversary edition of Forever

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 25 2023, 07:55 PM

Lazy Spices didn't even last 2 years in their heyday!! No way are they planning on ten years

Posted by: dancinqueen Jan 26 2023, 06:08 AM

QUOTE(neill2407 @ Jan 25 2023, 01:54 AM) *
That’s your opinion - I think Mel C’s solo material is far better and more credible than most of the material released by the Spice Girls.


Northern Star and Melanie C
The rest, I don’t agree

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 26 2023, 09:40 AM

QUOTE(Amanda Hugginkis @ Jan 25 2023, 07:55 PM) *
Lazy Spices didn't even last 2 years in their heyday!! No way are they planning on ten years


Anyone who looks at their schedule and work ethic between 1996-1999 and calls them lazy clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. They were burned out due to the heavy non-stop workload.

Has they had some breaks to rest inbetween the gruelling schedules, we probably would have had a different Spice story.

Posted by: dancinqueen Jan 26 2023, 11:55 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 26 2023, 10:40 AM) *
Has they had some breaks to rest inbetween the gruelling schedules, we probably would have had a different Spice Tory.


This

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Jan 27 2023, 01:19 AM

!!!!

Posted by: Mr.X Feb 4 2023, 12:00 PM

OK I have added:

- Emma Bunton section
- YouTube videos of all the available demos/unreleased


Do you guys have any other suggestions? I am not sure if the Emma Bunton sections are all complete so please do let me know if I have missed anything.

At some other point, I will make it a bit nicer looking with pictures, etc!

Posted by: Mr.X Feb 4 2023, 12:24 PM

On another note: C U Next Tuesday and Go Go Go have been removed from YouTube... It's probably just a reaction against them being leaked, but I have a GLIMMER of hope that it will mean a future release...

A release like Sugababes' The Lost Tapes would be amazing (it will never happen...)

Posted by: Amanda Hugginkis Feb 4 2023, 12:42 PM

Go Go Go should have been a 1999 single!!!

Posted by: Sideout Mar 22 2023, 01:20 AM

Pleasin' Me is now registered on ASCAP. Another unreleased track that will never get an official release.

https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/919822028

Posted by: tommie Mar 22 2023, 12:00 PM

Why would they bother registering a 20+ year old track if they didn't intend to release it?

ETA: it could of course be ASCAP just adding old files / documents to the database.

Posted by: Equinox8 Mar 22 2023, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Mar 22 2023, 01:20 AM) *
Pleasin' Me is now registered on ASCAP. Another unreleased track that will never get an official release.

https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/919822028


When was Feed Your Love registered relative to it getting officially released? mario.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Mar 22 2023, 04:35 PM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Mar 22 2023, 02:01 PM) *
When was Feed Your Love registered relative to it getting officially released? mario.gif


Surely this means an Unreleased compilation soon?!? w00t.gif cheer.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Sideout Mar 22 2023, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Mar 22 2023, 06:01 AM) *
When was Feed Your Love registered relative to it getting officially released? mario.gif

I don't remember. Feed Your Love was registered years before Spice 25 though.

Posted by: sammy01 Mar 23 2023, 09:21 AM

Someone did post on Spice Circle a couple of weeks back the 'project' Mel B was talking about was a proper album of unreleased songs that all 5 are involved in sorting. He gave a Nov 2023 release date, the post was taken down soon after.

Have no idea if it is true, though there are rumblings things are back on track in terms of the 4 getting close to signing that tour deal. There is defo a very pro Spice feel on social media this last few weeks, even Geri has been liking insta posts on the official account and they all promoted Stop even down to Emma posting it on her Youtube community.


Posted by: Mr.X Mar 23 2023, 10:52 AM

Wasnt that just some random fan putting shit out there?

I havent heard ANY ramblings about them being 'back on track' to be honest, but I would love a tour announcement + a new repackaged Greatest Hits with a bonus CD of unreleased tracks (including Feed Your Love of course). That would work so well, specially with the documentary coming along as well (if that is still happening?...)

Posted by: sammy01 Mar 23 2023, 01:05 PM

I was skeptical but Chris said on Spice circle that Mel C wouldn't be releasing an album this year. Cant think why she would delay until 2024 unless there was a big Spice girls pay day to push it back.

The Stop video release was the first time the website has been updated since SW25 was released too.

A November release of some sort with a coinciding tour would mean we would have an announcement by the end of April I'd expect. Would also maybe nicely time it for Glastonbury 2024 to be the end of it with Victoria.

Posted by: Mr.X Mar 23 2023, 01:27 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Mar 23 2023, 01:05 PM) *
I was skeptical but Chris said on Spice circle that Mel C wouldn't be releasing an album this year. Cant think why she would delay until 2024 unless there was a big Spice girls pay day to push it back.

The Stop video release was the first time the website has been updated since SW25 was released too.

A November release of some sort with a coinciding tour would mean we would have an announcement by the end of April I'd expect. Would also maybe nicely time it for Glastonbury 2024 to be the end of it with Victoria.


Hhmmm Im skeptical... Spice History has taught me to keep expectations lower... Plus, I doubt they would do November tour - but they might announce it then! If they would do a tour it would most probably be a stadium one and it would need to be in the summer (cos school holidays and also the weather!)

I shall keep my expectations at the bare minimum until we hear anything at all

Posted by: tommie Mar 23 2023, 02:40 PM

Maybe we will get a physical re-release of Wannabe (Junior Vasquez In-Demand Remix Edit).

Posted by: sammy01 Mar 23 2023, 02:56 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Mar 23 2023, 01:27 PM) *
Hhmmm Im skeptical... Spice History has taught me to keep expectations lower... Plus, I doubt they would do November tour - but they might announce it then! If they would do a tour it would most probably be a stadium one and it would need to be in the summer (cos school holidays and also the weather!)

I shall keep my expectations at the bare minimum until we hear anything at all


There is no saying it would be stadiums. One of the things I was told when Geri pulled out of Australia is the rain at some of the stadium shows really ruined those dates for her. She had this vision in her head of how these shows would be perfect and her soaking wet through and freezing cold was not in the plan. I think it was Bristol? that was particulary brutal.

Big arenas gives them more options as they could tour anywhere any time.

Posted by: Blond 2.0 Mar 23 2023, 07:01 PM

QUOTE(tommie @ Mar 23 2023, 02:40 PM) *
Maybe we will get a physical re-release of Wannabe (Junior Vasquez In-Demand Remix Edit).


LOZ tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Sideout Mar 23 2023, 07:15 PM

A rarities album might do well in November alongside a tour announcement. I'll believe it when I see it though.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Mar 24 2023, 12:39 AM

It could do ok for them but its probably never going to happen unfortunately.

Posted by: Equinox8 Mar 24 2023, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(tommie @ Mar 23 2023, 02:40 PM) *
Maybe we will get a physical re-release of Wannabe (Junior Vasquez In-Demand Remix Edit).


Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch yahoo.gif That's my line. Give it back.

Posted by: Equinox8 Mar 24 2023, 02:03 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Mar 23 2023, 07:15 PM) *
A rarities album might do well in November alongside a tour announcement. I'll believe it when I see it though.


The most natural release would be Goodbye25 along with a tour of the same name.

Come on girls ... it's right there. It's RIGHT there!

Posted by: Mr.X Mar 24 2023, 02:38 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Mar 24 2023, 12:39 AM) *
It could do ok for them but its probably never going to happen unfortunately.


It would probably sell the same amounts as Spiceworld25 did, or something similar. A CD/Vinyl + streaming release would be enough to get a Top20 from them imo...

I see them doing the same for Forever. A simple 2CD + a one vinyl and they will be done with it

Posted by: schizo_spice Mar 24 2023, 08:06 PM

If a rarities album did well in the charts maybe they’d be motivated to record a new album.


Posted by: Equinox8 Mar 24 2023, 10:43 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Mar 24 2023, 02:38 PM) *
It would probably sell the same amounts as Spiceworld25 did, or something similar. A CD/Vinyl + streaming release would be enough to get a Top20 from them imo...

I see them doing the same for Forever. A simple 2CD + a one vinyl and they will be done with it


I'm still not convinced that they will even acknowledge Forever25. It's not exactly an era worth celebrating on the same magnitude as their first two albums. Plus, Gerita has nothing to gain from Forever 25.

Posted by: Mr.X Mar 25 2023, 12:36 AM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Mar 24 2023, 10:43 PM) *
I'm still not convinced that they will even acknowledge Forever25. It's not exactly an era worth celebrating on the same magnitude as their first two albums. Plus, Gerita has nothing to gain from Forever 25.


I'm sure if they are on good terms, Gerita will definitely share it on her instagram stories teresa.gif

Posted by: Big Fat Sue Mar 25 2023, 04:26 PM

They haven't been a recording force, or any kind of force except sporadic tours, since 2000... I'm not sure. They went out with the Year of the Dragon, and like the dragon, rhey have been extinct ever since.

A rarities album with ACTUAl, emreworked singles - GO, GO, GO (massively impactful in 1999 - imagine the gossip!), W.O.M.A.N, Walk of Life x 5, Spice is Back, Painproof Tell Me Why dance remix, IYWHSF(SOMM)(AYHF?)(AYHF?)(AYHF?)(NO!) dance remix, could be a very interesting run of new singles, and might even do something in the charts...

They aren't as big as Take That obviously, but still. They might get a no.1 or no.2 album our of it like Steps or All Saints.

Posted by: Rebel Mar 25 2023, 05:41 PM

Hmm, I would love if they just rapackage it with the Greatest Hits instead ( Disc 2 of sort) so that it will help the album to sell even more

Posted by: Piers Mar 25 2023, 11:01 PM

I have my hopes we'll get some more unreleased music. My concern is the group and their team may not believe the public has much interest in new (to us) stuff. Response was somewhat quiet to Feed Your Love and Step To Me (not new to us, but new to streaming). There are easy explanations for that. Feed Your Love is a fairly subtle jam that I personally like...but it doesn't demand attention. And there was never a point I couldn't find someplace to listen to Step To Me...even if it wasn't on Spotify specifically. But...I could see someone at the label looking at those low streaming numbers for those two (and Headlines and Voodoo)...and thinking any small effort they give should just be on the established hits.

Posted by: Mr.X Mar 27 2023, 12:46 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Mar 25 2023, 11:01 PM) *
I have my hopes we'll get some more unreleased music. My concern is the group and their team may not believe the public has much interest in new (to us) stuff. Response was somewhat quiet to Feed Your Love and Step To Me (not new to us, but new to streaming). There are easy explanations for that. Feed Your Love is a fairly subtle jam that I personally like...but it doesn't demand attention. And there was never a point I couldn't find someplace to listen to Step To Me...even if it wasn't on Spotify specifically. But...I could see someone at the label looking at those low streaming numbers for those two (and Headlines and Voodoo)...and thinking any small effort they give should just be on the established hits.


Sadly without involvement from the girls as a group (not solo interviews which have little to no effect on their sales/streams), the streams will always be very low. If they want to have at least curiosity streams they need to properly promote it as a band.

The same applies to the Record company. They don't have a deal with the group, so the interaction between label and the group itself is very loose, which doesnt really incentivise either party to promote it. If the record company actually do give the girls a new record deal, then that would certainly move things around a lot more and they would be more prominent. Without one, the rights and management of their back catalogue is squarely on the record company side.

But when it comes to anniversary editions like, this we can look at other artists that are more prominent like Madonna, who's releases havent quite set the streaming charts alight either... Her latest releases (not new music but re-issues of the singles and albums with some old bsides or unreelased tracks) are roughly on 300,000 streams each so not exactly huge reach...

Legacy acts are known for their singles and albums and the general public wont invest in unreleased music. These are purely for fan-service, and fans will engage and buy the physical records, but success in these will be very limited (unless you are like Taylor Swift).

The real test for them would be new music. If it flops like Headlines and Voodoo then their assumptions would be correct though... I'd like to think that new musci from them today would be better received - or at least park more curiosity - than the reception they got in 2007 where the media and the public was very much against them still.

Posted by: Voodoo Apr 6 2023, 05:26 PM

If they ever release a rarities collection, this should be the cover:

View this post on Instagram

Posted by: Maz! Apr 6 2023, 05:33 PM

Now that would be an interesting album cover tongue.gif

Posted by: spiceboy Apr 6 2023, 07:30 PM

LOL! Tons better than Forever! laugh.gif

Posted by: Sideout Apr 6 2023, 08:23 PM

I know it will never happen, but it would be interesting if they released an alternative version of Forever that only included tracks recorded in 1999. I feel this would garner more media attention than an anniversary edition of Forever.

Forever 1999
1. Right Back At Ya (Pop Version)
2. W.O.M.A.N.
3. Overnight
4. If You Wanna Have Some Fun
5. Holler
6. Treasure
7. What You Want
8. Go Go Go
9. Pain Proof
10. Let Love Lead The Way
11. Goodbye

Posted by: sammy01 Apr 6 2023, 08:25 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Mar 23 2023, 10:21 AM) *
Someone did post on Spice Circle a couple of weeks back the 'project' Mel B was talking about was a proper album of unreleased songs that all 5 are involved in sorting. He gave a Nov 2023 release date, the post was taken down soon after.

Have no idea if it is true, though there are rumblings things are backn track in terms of the 4 getting close to signing that tour deal. There is defo a very pro Spice feel on social media this last few weeks, even Geri has been liking insta posts on the official account and they all promoted Stop even down to Emma posting it on her Youtube community.


The insta story was pushing signing up for emails today to get the latest news. When you sign up you get an email (it is the same sign up as before so you would need a new email address to sign up again) you get back a welcome on board email saying thank you for signing up to the Spice Girls email you will be kept up to date with all news, gig dates, tickets and merch. Just sayin'

Posted by: Voodoo Apr 6 2023, 08:32 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Apr 6 2023, 11:25 PM) *
The insta story was pushing signing up for emails today to get the latest news. When you sign up you get an email (it is the same sign up as before so you would need a new email address to sign up again) you get back a welcome on board email saying thank you for signing up to the Spice Girls email you will be kept up to date with all news, gig dates, tickets and merch. Just sayin'

It's nothing new. It's the same text that was in the Welcome email that I received in September 2022.

Posted by: sammy01 Apr 6 2023, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Apr 6 2023, 09:32 PM) *
It's nothing new. It's the same text that was in the Welcome email that I received in September 2022.


Yes but they weren't asking you to sign up in Sept '22

Posted by: Mr.X May 7 2023, 10:04 PM

A clip of Too Hot's melodies from a vinyl has appeared online. It's not the full song, just a 10second part of the vocals. It's ok but nothing amazing.

It is from this item: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256066688157?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=qol1PDF5TxS&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

One thing is that it is apparently a cover of Kool & The Gang's Too Hot huh.gif which I don't think was ever known before?...

Posted by: Mr.X May 8 2023, 12:32 PM

UPDATE: The whole vinyl tracks have now leaked and it is just parts of the choruses repeated. It's quite annoying to be honest.

I hope Go Go Go and Too Hot leak properly one day.

Oh well, the fans will have a filled day for sure.

You can find them on this Youtube channel:


Posted by: -Jay- May 8 2023, 12:42 PM

Oooh! Just a day after someone spent a lot of money on the vinyl on eBay lol.

About to listen!

Posted by: vibe May 8 2023, 12:50 PM

https://youtu.be/qM1efJQJgZQ

Posted by: tommie May 8 2023, 12:55 PM

I'm really curious why they would've printed this on a vinyl? It's just odd since it's literally bits of songs; what was the purpose?

Posted by: Maz! May 8 2023, 12:59 PM

QUOTE(tommie @ May 8 2023, 02:55 PM) *
I'm really curious why they would've printed this on a vinyl? It's just odd since it's literally bits of songs; what was the purpose?

For djs to make remixes apparently

Posted by: tommie May 8 2023, 01:02 PM

QUOTE(Maz! @ May 8 2023, 12:59 PM) *
For djs to make remixes apparently


Eeh, I guess that makes sense since they were mulling over the direction of the album when this was made. I guess aside from WOMAN they must've liked that Go Go Go riff + obviously felt like the chorus to their cover of Kool & The Gang could be used. I wonder if their proposal was to use these bits in potential WOMAN remixes?

Posted by: dancinqueen May 8 2023, 04:55 PM

Go Go Go has potential
And those harmonies. Wow!

Woman is still a big nope for me. And I hate Mel B “louder baby”, her voice cracks. There’s also another part live where Melanie C screams she’s possessed and nope, girl, that’s not it.

I hope one day we’ll get Go Go Go full version even with a fanmade instrumental.

Posted by: Equinox8 May 8 2023, 05:23 PM

QUOTE(Maz! @ May 8 2023, 12:59 PM) *
For djs to make remixes apparently


I've always wondered the same thing about the "tracks" on this vinyl, but I guess it makes sense for the times (1998/1999) when stems/loops/etc weren't as commonly circulated in digital form yet. The harmonies on all of these sound superb; that is one thing that these tracks have in common with the songs that made it onto Forever. But that's where I draw the line. I think these tracks will sound really really slick when (manifesting teresa.gif ) we get them one day.

'Go Go Go' is very catchy; even just from the tiny bit we can hear on this vinyl.

Interesting how the WOMAN vocals already sound like they've been modified for a remix. They clearly had plans!

Posted by: Voodoo May 8 2023, 07:56 PM

The leak has made the headlines (loud & clear)! ohmy.gif

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/22290789/spice-girls-demos-ebay/

Posted by: Sideout May 8 2023, 11:28 PM

Go Go Go sounds fantastic. Can't wait for the day we get to hear the full track in all its glory.

Posted by: Equinox8 May 8 2023, 11:53 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ May 8 2023, 07:56 PM) *
The leak has made the headlines (loud & clear)! ohmy.gif

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/22290789/spice-girls-demos-ebay/


What a trash article. "The girls could be left red-faced." rolleyes.gif Bitch, please.

The tracks on the vinyl have more spice than Headlines and VooDoo. And 50% of Forever. And One Of These Girls. But not the in-demand Junior Vasquez Remix of Wannabe. That is untouchable. teresa.gif



Posted by: Sideout May 9 2023, 12:11 AM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ May 8 2023, 03:53 PM) *
What a trash article. "The girls could be left red-faced." rolleyes.gif Bitch, please.

The tracks on the vinyl have more spice than Headlines and VooDoo. And 50% of Forever. And One Of These Girls. But not the in-demand Junior Vasquez Remix of Wannabe. That is untouchable. teresa.gif

That article is trash. Sounds like a PR intern for the girls wrote it. At this point it's ridiculous the girls are sitting on these unreleased tracks. Fans are selling and trading them. They will eventually see the light of day so why not take back control and officially release them.

Posted by: Equinox8 May 9 2023, 12:14 AM

QUOTE(Sideout @ May 9 2023, 12:11 AM) *
That article is trash. Sounds like a PR intern for the girls wrote it. At this point it's ridiculous the girls are sitting on these unreleased tracks. Fans are selling and trading them. They will eventually see the light of day so why not take back control and officially release them.


Agreed -- AND make some money off of them!

Posted by: tommie May 9 2023, 12:45 AM

Yes, I agree, the vocals for WOMAN is trash as I've described them all before since I have the original WOMAN mp3 DEMO.

It's a horrible song, let's never ever dig it out girls

Posted by: Equinox8 May 9 2023, 01:36 AM

QUOTE(tommie @ May 9 2023, 12:45 AM) *
Yes, I agree, the vocals for WOMAN is trash as I've described them all before since I have the original WOMAN mp3 DEMO.


You're that girl I knew you were. talktothehand.gif

Posted by: dancinqueen May 9 2023, 05:36 AM

QUOTE(tommie @ May 9 2023, 12:45 AM) *
Yes, I agree, the vocals for WOMAN is trash as I've described them all before since I have the original WOMAN mp3 DEMO.

It's a horrible song, let's never ever dig it out girls


Double you hoe M&Ms

Posted by: Mr.X May 9 2023, 09:08 AM

QUOTE(tommie @ May 9 2023, 01:45 AM) *
Yes, I agree, the vocals for WOMAN is trash as I've described them all before since I have the original WOMAN mp3 DEMO.

It's a horrible song, let's never ever dig it out girls


Oh do you mind sharing so we can listen and then we can all agree collectively that it is trash? teresa.gif

Posted by: Melancholia May 9 2023, 11:20 AM

Woman has always sounded bad. They need to put it out though just so people can shut up about it.

Posted by: tommie May 9 2023, 12:03 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ May 9 2023, 09:08 AM) *
Oh do you mind sharing so we can listen and then we can all agree collectively that it is trash? teresa.gif


NO!!!! I will never because I am sitting right here...


Posted by: Mr.X May 9 2023, 02:00 PM

QUOTE(tommie @ May 9 2023, 01:03 PM) *
NO!!!! I will never because I am sitting right here...



blink.gif I was expecting to have to have sex with anyone who has unreleased material from the girls to get it leaked, but I see from this reply that this is going to be much harder than that (pun intended)....

Posted by: vibe May 9 2023, 02:58 PM

It was the live version that bought WOMAN to life!

Posted by: -Jay- May 9 2023, 03:36 PM

They really need to put us out of our misery!


Did anyone see this? laugh.gif

View this post on Instagram


#enoughhoodies

Posted by: Equinox8 May 9 2023, 03:54 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ May 9 2023, 03:36 PM) *
They really need to put us out of our misery!
Did anyone see this? laugh.gif

View this post on Instagram


#enoughhoodies


YES! More please dance.gif

#nomorehoodies(unlesstheysaygogogo) teresa.gif ...#ifyado, then I will #treasure it both during the day and #overnight

Posted by: dancinqueen May 9 2023, 04:22 PM

“Used to buy us for 20 years, and we want to say Thank you.”

#nomorehoodies

Posted by: Blond 2.0 May 9 2023, 05:57 PM

Is Go Go Go even finished I don't think these tracks are finished or remastered like (pain proof and a day in your life) like they ignored them completely for a reason LOL

Posted by: Mr.X May 9 2023, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ May 9 2023, 04:36 PM) *
They really need to put us out of our misery!
Did anyone see this? laugh.gif

View this post on Instagram


#enoughhoodies


I really wish the fandom would campaign more for unreleased tracks and stopped buying the shitty merch!! #NoMoreHoodies #GiveUsTheUnreleasedTracks!!

Posted by: Mr.X May 9 2023, 08:41 PM

Surprisingly, even the press has gotten on the bandwaggon of these leaks (to be honest, they also did pick it up with c**t and the other leaks in 2016!)

But what is surprising is that some of it has been positively longing for more Spice music. Take this for example, from The Telegraph's Neil McCormick a music critic that is often quite harsh:


The Spice Girls have nothing to be ashamed of with these leaked demos

The leaked Spice Girls demos from 1999 reveal a band in crisis. But these snippets also demonstrate what gifted vocalists they were

Victoria Beckham, Emma Bunton, Mel B and Mel C performing in November 2000, a month before the band broke up
The Spice Girls have nothing to be embarrassed about the bits and pieces of choruses, bridges and verses from unreleased demos that have leaked online. Well, almost nothing.

“W-O-M-A-N – can you truly love a woman?” is a trite chorus lyric that suggests the world’s most successful girl band might have been struggling with their public image when it was recorded (and discarded) in 1999. It was probably designed to help shift perceptions of them from girls to mature w-o-m-e-n.

Unfortunately, with its already hopelessly dated “W-w-w-w” stutter, the results sound more like the product of a committee meeting of bored male advertising executives trying to conjure up feminist friendly slogans for a budget sex aid than a hot songwriting session by the group who gave us Girl Power.

Indeed, the banality of all three leaked titles – Woman, Too Hot and Go, Go, Go – is probably indicative of doubts and tensions that led to the Spice Girls breaking up in 2000 without ever getting round to finishing these songs. “You better run for shelter, you better run for shade,” they pleasantly harmonise on Too Hot with all the urgency of a bored family contemplating a damp weekend in Margate. Geri Halliwell had already quit the ranks by then so can’t be held responsible for the generally lacklustre impression of a group going through the motions. Indeed, might the ex-Ginger Spice have been the intended subject of Go, Go, Go, where her abandoned bandmates trill “turn around and shut the door” in tight harmony?

Well, probably not, but all we can do is speculate to fill in the blanks, because these are not unreleased songs, but rather a few stray snippets and elements of unfinished recordings. Alongside some acapella chorus vocals, we get a minute of sprightly rhythm guitar that sounds like it fell off a Haircut 100 record two decades earlier, 73 seconds of drum machine with amateurish “scratching”, and a 29-second track of assorted offcuts romantically labelled “Bits, Drum Beats.”

Such random unfinished parts really tell us more about the assembly line techniques that have taken so much character and fun out of pop recording. By the end of the 90s, long gone were the days when bands played and sang in studios together to capture arrangements of complete songs nailed down in rehearsal. Modern recording is never finished until it has been assembled and mixed. Heard in isolation without other ingredients that would ultimately tie them together, you can’t really tell what these records might have become, powered by dynamic production flourishes and perhaps topped off with new vocal tweaks recorded in a moment of inspiration.

One thing the snippets do show is that the quartet really could sing in tight harmony, with plenty of swing and sass in their rhythm. Individually, their vocals were sometimes lacking in tone or character (apart from Melanie Chisholm, who dominated lead parts as Sporty Spice) but together they were a force. Harmony is such a beautiful thing, almost completely absent from today’s charts, perhaps due to the dominance of solo artists employing autotune and other vocal effects. What a thrill it is to hear human beings actually singing together.
And whatever was going on in Spice World in 1999, the Girls still knew their way around a catchy melody and snappy hook. There’s a cute moment in Too Hot (the most complete demo) when a climbing cascade of “no-no-no” creates a contra rhythm to the lead vocal and gives a hint of what the song might have become, given more time and love. And Sporty's lost cry of “Louder baby, louder baby” in Woman would have been a perky addition to the canon of Spice Girl memes.

As unsatisfying as these demos are, they actually make me want to hear the Spice Girls sing again. Louder baby, louder baby!

LINK TO ARTICLE:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/spice-girls-leaked-demos-review/?fbclid=IwAR1bRKYf2Eobm7iLXUF-KoyZLUaMpOqGeEaFRMSqSu8b4ZW5OpFWrAeHwg8</a>



This seems like a bit of a turn around in the usual type of article they write about thier music or their talents, and that's a great thing.

Granted, it baffles me as to WHY a music critic would feel it is ok to trash CLIPS of songs that they havent heard in full at all, or without ANY instrumentation lol so his comments on the actual songs are just plain stupid...

But the fact he clamours for the return of the Spice Girls music, is quite surprising... And very welcome wink.gif

Posted by: -Jay- May 9 2023, 09:35 PM

Lol at the writer thinking it'sMelanie C singing "Louder baby, louder baby".

I'm actually kind of surprised that these vocal stems caught the attention of the papers and is considered interesting enough for articles.


There's been some drama surrounding these leaks, of course it's Spice Circle: https://www.facebook.com/groups/denden2.0/posts/1906517273068338/

QUOTE
Here’s the story on the “1999 demos” vinyl.

Earlier this year, like everyone else, I was disappointed that our hopes were raised about the demos and then dashed. I registered for discogs, even though I’d never heard of it before, and kept looking at the listing regularly over the next three months. Around two weeks ago, I noticed that a new owner had appeared on the site. I made him an offer of £1,000 and bought the vinyl, because I really wanted to hear the songs, particularly Woman.

I was surprised, but pleased, when he said he’d sell. When I listened to the tunes, I enjoyed hearing the girls as recorded, but knew I wouldn’t need the vinyl once I had the digital rips, so I listed it on ebay and announced the sale here.

The auction process was ridiculous. I never expected to earn more than I paid for it, and priced in that I’d almost certainly make a loss. The auction was interfered with by some unscrupulous members of this forum. I was asked to sell to the collective through Seth (agentspice) and agreed, in good faith, to work with him. This is because, while the music is nice, it’s not worth the figure of £7,100, which was the highest bid at the peak. The item is limited, in that we have only choruses, bridges and instrumentals, rather than finished songs. The idea that someone should pay thousands seemed insane and I wasn’t comfortable with it.
I was hoping to reach agreement with Seth to sell to cover my costs. Then (as an illustration) 50 people would have paid £20, rather than one person paying £1,000. And the music will have been socialised.

The songs were clearly leaked today because someone felt more strongly that I shouldn’t earn thousands than they felt about carrying on hoarding the songs. This shows there are members of the group who have been hoarding the digital versions for months. They only released them because I secured a copy and set all this in train.

Eventually, the auction was stopped by ebay because of complaints by other (or the same?) troublemakers as undermined the bidding.
Anyway, there’s been a lot of nasty things written about me here over the last 48 hours, which I am not surprised at given the immature, toxic culture in parts of this group. Thanks go to some really lovely people who reached out. Others said I was in it for the profit (wrong, I wanted to cover my costs, and was negotiating with Seth who acted on behalf of the collective), they said I was lying about having the vinyl (see attached photo) and they laughed when the auction collapsed and eventually was pulled (if I hadn’t paid through the nose for the music, you wouldn’t have it now, as the cliquey hoarders would have kept it to themselves).

Que sera. Anyone know where to get the full studio version of Woman we heard on Before the Live One in 1999?



Posted by: McAndrew May 9 2023, 09:46 PM

Frustrating that the writer says Melanie C is the only one whose voice wasn’t lacking “tone or character”, and then credits “louder baby, louder baby” to her.

Shows how much attention he’s actually paid to their voices. The Mels sound completely different.

Posted by: Sideout May 9 2023, 10:01 PM

Releasing a rarities album alongside a tour announcement is such a no brainer. A solid, well crafted rarities album would almost act as a 4th album for them.

Posted by: Mr.X May 9 2023, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ May 9 2023, 11:01 PM) *
Releasing a rarities album alongside a tour announcement is such a no brainer. A solid, well crafted rarities album would almost act as a 4th album for them.


In total agreement of this w00t.gif

If they had any GUTS in them, this year they would:

- Announce a world Stadium 2024 tour
- Announce and release an Anthology including rareties album
- A Goodbye /Christmas #1s EP with new remixes
- Release that documentary they keep banging on about

Then in 2024, do the tour and Glastonbury before calling it quits forever (and announce the end properly!).

The only other thing they would be left to do would be Forever25 release teresa.gif

Of course, being the girls, they won't even do one of those things sad.gif

Posted by: Equinox8 May 9 2023, 11:47 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ May 9 2023, 10:01 PM) *
Releasing a rarities album alongside a tour announcement is such a no brainer. A solid, well crafted rarities album would almost act as a 4th album for them.


Agreed. It's literally sitting in front of them: #Goodbye25. End it right, on a high, as a true unit, put us out of our misery.

Posted by: tommie May 10 2023, 01:35 AM

Oh no! People don't like 25 year old demo recordings!

So anyway...

Posted by: dromeda May 21 2023, 10:41 PM

Apparently another piece of Go Go Go and Too Hot leaked:

Go go go
https://youtu.be/HIcU6B5ZWQk

Too hot
https://youtu.be/lL-6U8RuCA4

Posted by: Yobnedor May 21 2023, 10:46 PM

They’re not bad but they sound like they could easily be on “Hot” or “Victoria Beckham”

Posted by: Mr.X May 21 2023, 11:18 PM

Arent those just fans creations from the vocal and music stems that leaked a few weeks back?

Posted by: Voodoo May 21 2023, 11:24 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ May 22 2023, 02:18 AM) *
Arent those just fans creations from the vocal and music stems that leaked a few weeks back?

Yes. This isn't a new leak. It's fan-made.

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 7 2023, 01:25 PM

Adding here a song called Walk The Same Line as it was rumoured to be recorded in 1997 as stated in this website: http://spicechronology.atspace.com/spice.html

On the same website, there are mentions of two other songs: Exposé and Inside Out from the Spice era. Has anyone heard of these before?

Also adding a rumoured Janet Jackson feature to If Ya Do, and we now have some info on how this song might have been part of the first Jimmy Jam + Terry Lewis sessions in Autum 1998 as well following comments by the producers.

That same website has also the following as Touch/early Spice tracks, which I never heard of:

-All We Need Is A Miracle
-Hard To Kill
-In Your Face also rumored to be unreleased 'Spice' track


Does anyone know where the rumour comes from or has any other info on either of these?

Posted by: Sideout Sep 7 2023, 03:56 PM

Teddy Riley produced Girlfriend/Boyfriend not Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis.

Posted by: Blond 2.0 Sep 7 2023, 04:43 PM

wow I like the drums so it's a full song and not just parts or what

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 7 2023, 10:34 PM

QUOTE(Blond 2.0 @ Sep 7 2023, 05:43 PM) *
wow I like the drums so it's a full song and not just parts or what


It is a fan made edit from the stems that leaked.

Posted by: Blond 2.0 Sep 8 2023, 10:18 PM

they did a great job

Posted by: Moby Dick Sep 10 2023, 05:50 PM

Is that rrally how Go Go! (... Go?) Would have sounded?? :/ Too Hot is a Mel B album track, at best.

Posted by: Moby Dick Sep 10 2023, 05:54 PM

https://youtu.be/ooKQlINZtIk?feature=shared

Found this demo compilation! You can see how they lost their way when Ego Spice left, and were floundering, with how many differrnt sounds they eere trying, with thr album pushed back and back.

They shoulda gonr pop rock dance. Sisters has a grrat rocky vibe, which woulda led into Pain Proof, or vice versa, and then a rocky Merry Christmas, Everyone! Three big hits right there. Start with Right Bacj At Ya, pop as it does sound v spicy into Woman, into the rocky skngs. Next album, start with IFYWTHSF(SOMM)(AYHF?)(AYHF?) (HF!), Tell Me Why dance version, with new pop vocals, not those plodding rnb ones, Hollier, LLLTW, Walk of Life x4, then finish off with Celebration/ We Are Famiky double a side. Done.

Also, the studio rnb version of Woman:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJiNcFAtef4&pp=ygUUc3BpY3cgZ2lybHMgZ28gZ28gZ28%3D

Posted by: Equinox8 Sep 11 2023, 07:13 PM

QUOTE(Blond 2.0 @ Sep 8 2023, 10:18 PM) *
they did a great job


Agreed!

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 6 2023, 03:49 PM

So a fan just shared this sale on Ebay which apparently is a demo from an Emma Bunton song from the year 2000 titled Better Off Alone, but the seller refuses to give any clips to prove it is real.
Personally I never heard of an Emma Bunton song or demo with this title.

What do we think girls?


https://www.ebay.pl/itm/235241015178?hash=item36c575078a:g:t98AAOSwhdhlHXR5&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABAAQ7X4oADfXHzcMNPFpFjPo79q3M849K8fJqWchHuXEAIWbIyw%2BImfz8wWxf%2FC1d7G%2By3moE0j4gqN6f91XT5Au%2FFro50Wn5m7y0l%2FhZKJFfccp7KytLPcmG1ib6RJvo0hpwvxu4q78bAzV%2B9rvf%2BoSb%2Bw1NZHM8JJIIAZwHO21MIcDXP7GZh079xRt2OWo3PBz7YfAztGJc2kHg32kFz1WdERYvUaVon9IbioQ
nfBXu1RpehE84xc6S1263HKxAho6TBI5mgyreRaHfvfH6j9N6FjTu5mDR%2FQTwCIgSyTX917GStOEfyCGQx1MT2Zs4wZVXQ0DLP7b8rWvqp4fLXbE%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_j62NrgYg

Posted by: Matttttt Oct 6 2023, 05:12 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Oct 6 2023, 10:49 AM) *
So a fan just shared this sale on Ebay which apparently is a demo from an Emma Bunton song from the year 2000 titled Better Off Alone, but the seller refuses to give any clips to prove it is real.
Personally I never heard of an Emma Bunton song or demo with this title.

What do we think girls?
https://www.ebay.pl/itm/235241015178?hash=item36c575078a:g:t98AAOSwhdhlHXR5&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABAAQ7X4oADfXHzcMNPFpFjPo79q3M849K8fJqWchHuXEAIWbIyw%2BImfz8wWxf%2FC1d7G%2By3moE0j4gqN6f91XT5Au%2FFro50Wn5m7y0l%2FhZKJFfccp7KytLPcmG1ib6RJvo0hpwvxu4q78bAzV%2B9rvf%2BoSb%2Bw1NZHM8JJIIAZwHO21MIcDXP7GZh079xRt2OWo3PBz7YfAztGJc2kHg32kFz1WdERYvUaVon9IbioQ
nfBXu1RpehE84xc6S1263HKxAho6TBI5mgyreRaHfvfH6j9N6FjTu5mDR%2FQTwCIgSyTX917GStOEfyCGQx1MT2Zs4wZVXQ0DLP7b8rWvqp4fLXbE%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_j62NrgYg



They shared a clip https://streamable.com/jqln8f

Posted by: sammy01 Oct 6 2023, 05:16 PM

That sounds so good, very 1st album vibes but very laid back and breezey.

Posted by: dancinqueen Oct 6 2023, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(Matttttt @ Oct 6 2023, 05:12 PM) *
They shared a clip https://streamable.com/jqln8f


My ears are bleeding.
Jeez that cheesy

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 8 2023, 01:37 PM

It is a Girl Like Me outtake, and it definitely sounds like the cheesy pop music she was making at the time.

ANYWAY the Ebay sale has been cancelled and the seller account deactivated as well. Seems like Emma's team (or record company) quickly moved to stop the sale, unfortunately. HOWEVER, there's a campaign that Seth Allen is starting on Spice Circle to purchase it directly from the seller so feel free to reach how to Seth there to see if we can get it!

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 30 2023, 03:06 PM

(dont ask me how I know but...)

Two unreleased - and previously unkown - songs from A Girl Like Me era are apparently making the rounds and could probably leak one day

No Love
Better Off Alone
(granted this one is known by now as a clip has been shared on Spice Circle but alas lets pray it leakes soon)

Posted by: sammy01 Oct 30 2023, 03:20 PM

I heard a snippet of No love it is absolutely awful. I wouldn't call many Emma songs unlistenable but that was. Completely tuneless.

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 30 2023, 03:59 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Oct 30 2023, 04:20 PM) *
I heard a snippet of No love it is absolutely awful. I wouldn't call many Emma songs unlistenable but that was. Completely tuneless.


Can you share?
I heard the snippet for Better of Alone too and it was fine. I can see why it was left off the album and not even a bside, but it was cute to listen to

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 31 2023, 02:05 PM

(just to let you all know that there is a post on Spice Circle looking to gather interest on 3 unreleased Spice tracks + 1 Forever unreleased track...

Go there and check it out. No titles or track lengths have been given yet but could be good to suggest interest for now

Posted by: sammy01 Oct 31 2023, 02:16 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Oct 30 2023, 03:59 PM) *
Can you share?
I heard the snippet for Better of Alone too and it was fine. I can see why it was left off the album and not even a bside, but it was cute to listen to


I don't have it. I just happened to be browsing Spice Circle the moment it was uploaded about it with a clip. Then 10 minutes later the clip was deleted.

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 31 2023, 03:10 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Oct 31 2023, 03:16 PM) *
I don't have it. I just happened to be browsing Spice Circle the moment it was uploaded about it with a clip. Then 10 minutes later the clip was deleted.


Think that was Better Off Alone if I remember correctly?...

Posted by: Sideout Oct 31 2023, 04:28 PM

I heard the clip of No Love. It's a really rough sounding demo. The lyrics are trying to be edgy.

I hope one of those 3 unreleased Spice tracks is Melody of Life. I don't care if it's a Touch era song. The clips we have are great.

Posted by: sammy01 Oct 31 2023, 04:28 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Oct 31 2023, 03:10 PM) *
Think that was Better Off Alone if I remember correctly?...


No it was No Love just a few days ago. Trust me I remember as it was awful.

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 31 2023, 10:47 PM

BRING IT ON!!!

Imagine if it was Overnight (1996 version) and Serial Killer??? cheer.gif w00t.gif

yahoo.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Mar 20 2024, 12:14 PM

We never got anywhere with the Bunton demos, right? Ive asked Seth on Spice Circle but they are not responding about this...

EDIT: I have also updated the original post with info on GEM-era tracks Song for Her and Still Got It

Posted by: -Jay- Mar 20 2024, 12:29 PM

I feel like I’ve completely missed the tea about the existence of Still Got It? ohmy.gif

Edit: Just saw you wrote more about it in General Discussion! cool2.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Mar 20 2024, 12:45 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Mar 20 2024, 12:29 PM) *
I feel like I’ve completely missed the tea about the existence of Still Got It? ohmy.gif

Edit: Just saw you wrote more about it in General Discussion! cool2.gif


Yeah it was mentioned on a couple of newsreports and then it turned up on that song-writers acreditation website too, will try to find it

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