As I said in the other thread, AGT's Champions series was genius and has worked so well with an insane level of talent, but unfortunately Syco's f***ed over so many of the winners and most memorable acts that I doubt many of the biggest or best would come back I guess you never know though.
A celebrity version seems like the only idea worse rn than another normal series The last one was a disaster, and nobody is going to be chomping at the bit to see some Love Island/TOWIE flops and a couple of soap stars singing each week. If it was a sort of mini thing during Children In Need or Stand Up To Cancer, fine, but it's not really something they should do as a whole "normal" series. One of the big problems of a normal series is the lack of investment in winners, what's the point if they won't do anything after, and a celebrity series is hardly going to make a chart star out of Megan from Love Island or Gemma Collins after a couple of times singing ok on TV.
Well - and I put a disclaimer here in case this statement comes back to bite me on the bum that what I say next is null and void in the event it happens - Olly certainly wouldn't do an All Stars series. He's not said himself but he's hinted that after his use as a whipping boy for all that was wrong with the 2015 series he doesn't fancy being that heavily involved again. And who can blame him when he's a coach on a series getting more viewers than either of the last two series of X Factor had and he has another sell out tour later this year?
JLS I can't see doing it - partly because Oritsé's current brush with the law is still looming over him, but also because JB seems quite happy being a farmer and presenter these days, Marvin likewise, but substitute farmer for DJ. Aston would be plausible enough a representation I suppose. Diana Vickers would be great too.
It'll be interesting to see how ITV copes without it in its absence. I imagine that their autumn Saturday schedules without it will end up being to them what Saturday nights are to the BBC at the times of year that Strictly isn't on.
If the rumours are true acts such as Olly Murs wont do it as they dont need to as they have had a very successful career.
In my opinion this would be more suited to former contestants/winners such as Ben Haenow, Sam Bailey, Rak Su, Eoghan Quigg, Leon Jackson, Marcus Collins etc and i would predict Louisa Johnson will be one of the first signed.
The acts mentioned had short lived success so having further association with the show can really only boost their profile.
Other acts such as Leona Lewis, Olly Murs, James Arthur etc will take all the guest performance slots.
I do like this idea,i know most wont but i hope the rumours are true as it could provide wonderful trip down memory lane when the show was something huge.
The only thing we are guaranteed is Steve Brookstein wont be part of it
If Wagner and/or Honey G return I'll be watching.
Rylan too.
Confirmed by Simon now https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8430533/simon-cowell-two-series-x-factor-britains-got-talent/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1550181352
We... really don't need both I mean I'll watch, on paper it's great as I've said with the AGT series currently, but there's so many reasons why it won't work in theory - especially with last year's panel! If they did manage to get back a good bunch of the biggest/best names and fill the gaps with talented international contestants, it'd be maybe ok, but it's so bad for so long it's gonna take more than that. Also unlike AGT with some viral/really impressive acts, I can't think of many from worldwide X Factor, other than ones I just love for their music Francesca Michielin or Reigan Derry would kill me off I'd be so excited but they wouldn't light up the viewing figures!
Not to mention, part of the reason is that people are tired of so much X Factor, 2 series in one year is only going to accelerate that surely??
^Exactly!
How can this plan (that includes a celeb version no one was asking for) do anything but damage the brand even further?
I really don't see who would want to go back... I mean sure they could probably get back the likes of Chico, Wagner, Tesco Mary etc.
But acts with actual talent/ that had something aren't going to back. Also how many people have actually spoken out about the show over the years? Would they want to come back?
I appreciate they're doing all they can to try and save a dying format, but I think the axe would be kinder.
Leona lewis coming for a second wind
I'm so far beyond ready for the resurrection of Diana Vickers!!!!!!
I feel like they'd go for the sort of contestants who have found themselves into minor celebrity roles or West End, like Stacey Solomon, Ray Quinn etc.
I'd have thought they'd have a problem luring back in the amount of contestants they've shafted over the years...
Fairly excited for the All Stars one but not really the Celeb one
The normal series should be rested for a good 3/4 years
This is so exciting, I am really looking forward to the seasons this year. I might even tune into BGT Champions, I haven't seen many recent series of it but it will be cool to see a mix of classic acts and some that I missed.
I am looking forward to lots of X Factor contestants coming back. It would suck for the ones who come back and audition for the judges to just give them a no
That is if they will still run that aspect in the same sort of way.
I would like to see Amelia Lily and Misha B back.
Alexandra Burke seems to be busy with musicals but hopefully she could come back.
There have been so many great acts over the years, Luke Friend is under-rated. Abi Alton was very talented. There is just such a broad spectrum of acts but then as others have said, it depends if they would want to go back and how they perceived their treatment by it the first time round.
Kitty Brucknell would probably go back if they asked, I would root for her again if she did!
Saara Aalto also is incredible.
I hope they actually have some decent celebrities for the celebrity version.
They need to get a classic judges panel for this to work.
Ruth Lorenzo
I could see a few of our faves doing it. Fleur's solo single did nothing, even after a Celeb stint, I think she might swallow her pride and just do it. She seems to still get on well with Simon. Same with Louisa.
Saara I'm not certain would get asked but if she did, why not? A few more weeks exposure, it can't harm. And Queen Habibis, obv. Ha
Saara said she wouldn't do it, I suppose you're right about some of the less successful gay niche ones we love though- I'm sure there'd be a couple who'd think "sod it what's to lose" I can see it either bombing and being nearly all terrible people, or it'll be one that we love on here but still flops because the public don't care, I'm very sceptical that they'd get back all the big ones they'd need for it to be a success.
Cher Lloyd or I don't want it.
Ruth Lorenzo would be wonderful to see back.
Ideally the judging panel would be Dannii Minogue, Cheryl, Louis and Simon.
That line up was the best judging panel.
Tbh can we just get Gamu back
The autotune
Did they really think they were going to get away with that?
Four Of Diamonds to go on, win, and have their three 10/10 bops be chart hits.
Ruth lorenzo,grace Davies and my fave winner Matt cardle would be 3 I'd love to see back.
I still can't believe Biffy Clyro had the cheek to do a cover of his song 'When We Collide' and rename it as well!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6940433/amp/Simon-Cowell-lines-Leona-Lewis-Chico-Shayne-Ward-new-star-edition-X-Factor.html
X Factor All stars coming later this year
Leona Lewis, James Arthur and Shayne Ward likely to be in
Leona's already won x
There's also already a topic on this over on the Reality forum - can a Mod kindly move/merge these?
I just don’t get why anyone would want to do an Allstars series unless you’re someone like Chico, Jedward or Stevie Richie
no chance would leona do it. unless she's a judge.
Leona and Shayne make sense - but James Arthur is a bit strange. He's still having hits!
Though I'd love for this show to do to a former contestant what the AGT series has done for Susan Boyle.
I hope Leona doesn't do it. Her voice is not where it used to be. I'd worry she'd be out embarrassingly early.
Is it? She was fantastic performing One More Sleep on The X Factor final last year.
Leona's had some very rough performances over the last few years where she hasn't been able to control her pitch, her voice has cracked or she hasn't been anywhere near the big notes. She's had various health issues and I'm sure that's contributed but I suspect overuse and not looking after it properly in the first few years after winning played a big part in that.
I'm sure Leona will do fine, especially as the X-factor usually has good sound systems/she'll prepare herself for the performances. The biggest critics of her voice are her biggest fans unforutnately. Usually the reaction to her live performances is generally very positive on social media. And whilst her voice isn't what it was back in 2006, she still has an amazing voice and with the right song choices I'm sure she'll hit it out of the park.
Part of me really wants her to perform "Ave Maria" if she is indeed a contestant.
I hope they only have serious acts on the All Stars versions and no joke acts. Shayne Ward/Leona Leona/James Arthur/JLS/Diana Vickers/Laura White/Alexandra Burke/Matt Cardl/Rhydian etc. It could actually be a very good show if done right.
I reckon they'll pronbably have one joke act (Honey G or Chico hopefully )
I'd also like Same Difference to be back
Ablisa to slay x
Probably Ruth Lorenzo would be in possibly. And maybe Jedward...
I'd be up for watching an All-Stars version of the show, and I haven't watched it for many years now.
I would like to see the classic judging panel though - Simon / Cheryl / Danni / Louis (or Mel B in there somewhere ) as that is the judging panel associated with it's glory years.
Contestants should be:
- Leona Lewis
- Joe McElderry
- Matt Cardle
- Shayne Ward
- JLS
- James Arthur (even if I can't stand him)
- Cher Lloyd
- G4
- Alexandra Burke
- Louisa Johnson
- Rhydian or Leon Jackson
- Stacey Solomon
- Rebecca Ferguson
- Diana Vickers
Jokey / Fun act one of the following only:
- Jedward
- Chico (I'd like Chico as the original one)
- Honey G (really wouldn't want her tbh)
- Wagner
Would be incredible if they could also get but I don't think they have a chance:
- Little Mix (no flipping chance)
- Olly Murs (again can't see it at all)
- One Direction (hahaha hilarious as if)
I feel like they might cobble together like two or three of 1D and try to get away with that, wouldn't surprise me
I wonder how recent they'll go - I reckon we could see Ben Haenow and Sam Bailey, perhaps Matt Terry as well. I don't think they'll all be the 'big' winners.
Steve Brookstein please x
This whole idea just seems really messy to me if I'm honest. I feel like if they're going to have any winners participating, it should be a Champions series where all winners are up against each other (the likeliness of that happening being incredibly slim).
If we're going with characters that made it to live shows, excluding any winners, I'd probably want to see:
Fleur East
Amelia Lily
Cher Lloyd
G4
Same Difference
Misunderstood
Jedward
Chico
Wagner
Luke Friend
Saara Aalto
Kitty Brucknell
There's a lot of finalists I just can't see wanting to come back for whatever reason, and with the likes of JLS it might be a bit of a risky move having them involved given what Oritsé's been in the headlines for recently.
Cher Lloyd coming back would be such a dream. Especially if it helped boost her persona a bit again
I think in an All-Star series there is seriously no need for a joke act but lbr there will probably be like 3 or so.
Do we think there's even a slight chance of Ella Henderson using this to aid with her comeback?
Yeah it's far less about getting winners - look how many didn't do anything in the first place! For this to do as well as Simon clearly wants it to/they need it to, they need the names who actually had some success on board but idk how many of those would actually do it. On paper there's so many line-ups that could work but I can't shake the feeling that we're gonna end up with like Honey G, Matt Terry and a boyband made up of Sam Callahan, one of Union J and Nicholas McDonald
I said this a few pages back but I don't see JLS doing it. Namely because Oritse's future is still hanging in the balance - or rather the hands of the law - at the moment but even if it wasn't I get the impression it's not the right time for Marvin, JB or Aston. A shame really given it's 10 years in July since 'Beat Again' went to number one so it'd be a fitting opportunity.
If Leona or Alexandra aren't involved I'd be very surprised. As others have cited Leona would have the potential to do a Susan Boyle off the back of this which would be no harm to her at all.
I’m genuinely praying that Diana Vickers does this.
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a27268720/x-factor-all-stars-jedward-loose-women/
Jedward confirm they have been asked to appear.
JUSTICE FOR GAMU
Jedward would be great.
I think the All-Stars format has the potential to work really well, my only concern would be that it would be really difficult to have an All-Stars version without the likes of One Direction, JLS, Olly Murs and Little Mix.
WAGNER pls
Omg yes at Wagner
Rebecca Ferguson just tweeted about this
If I thought enough people would be watching this to see her get a career resurgence, I’d tell Rebecca to go for it. But since it’s likely to be naff and embarrassing, then it really is beneath her.
I do wish she could have a successful comeback. She did so well but it still seemed like she wasn’t as much a success as she should have been.
louis walsh has confirmed he's returning
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a28048778/louis-walsh-returning-the-x-factor/
He also said 'The All-Star concept is great. People will watch it to see Leona Lewis, G4, Sam Bailey. Real singers, real talent. It could be like battle of the divas'
Wonder if that's confirming them? Or he's just using examples.
I adore her but I hope Leona doesn’t do the all star series.
She’s far far better than this.
I’d rather it be like the Louisa’s and Sams who didn’t really take off.
Alexandra doing it would be horrendous too, her personality on strictly was bad enough. Plus remember the last time Alex came to the show (ok.com).
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a28312392/louis-walsh-confirms-leona-lewis-alexandra-burke-shayne-ward-x-factor-all-stars/
Leona Lewis, Alexandra Burke, Shayne Ward - all returning for All Stars, confirmed by Louis Walsh
Okay, HYPE!!!!!
Little Mix won't be there They're the biggest girl band around so they have no reason to do it
But yeah, it's gonna be lovely to see Leona back. How I've missed that voice
Surely there's not a chance Steve Brookestein will be there?
I imagine Steve Brookestein and Leon Jackson will decline
Really hope Leona does amazing if she definitely is doing it, she is still my all time fave from the show and I'd love it if she got a resurrgance from the appearance. Just hope she isnt overshadowed by the likes of average winners like James Arthur who no doubt the general public will obsess over once more
I'm hoping Ruth Lorenzo comes back - she's always been pretty poplar and is a pretty big name in Spain. I just want to hear her belting them out again.
I'm not sure I could cope with seeing James Arthur beat out the people he's most likely to... ughhhhh!! My heart will fall apart if he beats Leona 😩😩😩
I can't see James Arthur doing it to be honest
Hopefully Matt Cardle too.
I hope they do original songs, I don’t want to see them covering again.
I wonder if people will be performing their own songs or covers?
Whatever happens, Leona is the rightful winner
Imagine it being like AF Idol with their original songs *.*
I'm also intrigued as to how the format will work if they're stripping it over a week. Will they have a few each night in a BGT semi final format and then a file? Or will they have like 12 contestants and narrow it down each night? Hmmm
Anyway looks like we're getting BGT Champions first in September, then Celebrity X Factor then All Stars in November so we have quite a while to wait for All Stars!
I've just got a horrible feeling it'd be like 1st out Louisa, 2nd out Alexandra, 3rd out Leona
omfg imagine the BJ meltdowns if it's James Arthur vs. Leona Lewis in the final and James wins
If James is in it, I'm almost certain he'll win. He has a pretty large fanbase online.
"All" of the winners. Yeah right, show me Steve Brookstein and I'll believe you.
Surprised they've got all those names though. This will be a good one to follow to see how they get on against each other and for the nostalgia factor (what with Louis returning as well).
Amelia Lily would be awesome.
Also, perfect opportunity for Ella Henderson to comeback? 😛
Steve Brookstein coming back and properly slagging off Simon would be TV gold but that's clearly not going to happen.
Once we get confirmation of who is in this, can we have a big singles rate of those acts pleaseeee?
I doubt James Arthur will be taking part, he said a few weeks ago in an interview that he isn't and wouldn't do it just now because his career doesn't need it yet.
I would hate for Leona to do it and not win, I hope she chooses her songs carefully and really works on her vocals to nail them. There is one act who would prove a real threat and I think its Joe McElderry, he has a very dedicated fan base, someone posted on another thread that he has won 5 other reality shows since X Factor.
Ya Joe could go on and win again. Regarding leona,with how things are she hasnt anything to lose I dont think so I would like to see her back as I would love to see dannii minogue back as a judge.
Alexandra truly is clueless. The UK hates her why would she even sign up for this.
I mean don't get me wrong, it'll be amazing to see her perform again, but she's gonna be out 3rd at best
Yeah it's gonna be so hard to watch because the public detest Alexandra it's such a shame as well because she is such a talent and has such a great heart/personality, the GBP are trash.
There was A LOT of hate towards her during her stint on Strictly Come Dancing in 2017 for being "arrogant".
Ever since okay dot com and Strictly, she's not been liked at all. She went through a really tough time on Strictly and I really still don't get it .
i think it’s a bad move for her. if she’s really good, she’s gonna be ‘showing off’ and arrogant again. if she plays it down she’s ‘lost it’. she won’t be able to win.. and i don’t just mean the competition.
her team will probably be hoping that she’s able to turn it all around and i really hope she can as the public are fickle.
but when i went to see strictly on tour, they were literally booing her when she danced, it was heartbreaking.
so so sad. It was lovely to see her at Pride last year because she got such overwhelming support and she even got emotional saying it's nice that people do still support her.
I dunno. She's just finished a very popular stint in The Bodyguard touring different cities hasn't she? A lot of people were asking for the soundtrack (as in the one with her recorded vocals)
Also, the public will forget about everything when they are reminded exactly why she won XF I reckon.
Wow that's really sad. Even if a person is "arrogant" or whatever it's disgusting to boo a person on stage. Like, seriously, how can someone justify making another human being feel that bad just because they have the self confidence you obviously lack?
Will this actually be on this year then with BGT starting end of August for 6 weeks
6 from August 31 weeks only goes up to October 5 - still loads of time.
James Arthur has confirmed he will not be appearing on the All-Stars series
The Sun claims to know the first 2 contestants on X Factor All Stars:
"The Sun claims Dinah Jane from Fifth Harmony, who finished 3rd on "X Factor USA" in 2012 and Samantha Jade, who won "X Factor Australia" in 2012, will take part on the All Stars edition of "X Factor".
"Fifth Harmony's Dinah Jane 'signs up for X Factor All Stars'
Former Fifth Harmony singer Dinah Jane has reportedly signed up for The X Factor's All Star series.
Dinah Jane rose to fame on The X Factor USA's second season in 2012.
After originally auditioning as a solo artist, she formed girl group Fifth Harmony together with Ally Brooke, Camila Cabello, Normani Kordei and Lauren Jauregui.
The five piece made the final where they finished in third place, going on to sign a record deal that saw them release three albums.
In 2018, the group went on an indefinite hiatus to pursue solo projects.
Now The Sun newspaper reports that Dinah has signed up to the upcoming UK All Stars version of The X Factor.
An insider told the newspaper: “Dinah has a record deal but this is a great chance to let people see who she really is. She will be good competition.”
The tabloid also claims that X Factor Australia winner Samantha Jade is also set to compete.
Host Dermot O'Leary recently teased that the new spin-off would welcome back "a few of the winners, a few of the sort-of nearly winners and a few of the more eccentric people."
As for what British acts we can expect to see, 2008 champion Alexandra Burke is also rumoured to be making a return together with Ray Quinn, who was runner up to Leona Lewis in 2006.
Wagner, Honey G and Jedward have also been rumoured for a return.
However a number of past contestants, such as Rylan Clark-Neal and James Arthur, have ruled themselves out of competing."
https://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the-x-factor/420625-fifth-harmonys-dinah-jane-signs-up-for-x-factor-all-stars.html
Dinah Jane?! Wow.
Samantha will be good to see, I love her!
Leonas by far my favourite person who’s come from the show but I really really really hope she isn’t coming back
Dinah Jane I'm screaming, that's a worse barrel scrape than a lot of the BGT Champions line-up Samantha Jade I'm here for, she will wipe the floor with most acts we could put forward. I didn't expect to have any international acts on, Francesca Michielin while we're at it plz x
Absolutely here for Wagner, Honey G and Jedward!
I was kinda hoping they would just stick to XF UK acts for this one
I get the feeling that not a lot of the big/good acts will come back so we'll end up with a couple of good international ones (and Dinah Jane x) and all the jokes
Dinah Jane is actually an incredible signing? FH were huge and work from home I believe is the best selling single from a girl group?
I don’t get how that’s scraping at the barrel?
I was gonna say, she'll probably end up being the biggest name there
I love 5H but wouldn't even recognize her if she walked past me on the street! The majority of viewers in th UK won't care about their two big hits a few years ago, and certainly won't know the one who never really did anything in the group
I guess you could argue it either way... yes those things may be true but they haven't signed FH, they've signed one fifth and not one of the most important fifths in the eyes of the public... from another country. Is it better than Rachel Hylton but you can see why people might think it a little weak.
If we're doing internationals can we get Dami Im pls <3
OMG YES
Dami and Samantha to get their coronation winners singles to smash over here please!!
5H harmony weren’t that big here Work From Home aside.
They never managed a successful album did they?
Their UK career really died as soon as Camila left and I imagine it was the same on a WW scale too.
Camila was the star of that band and the only one who had anything about her. Demi said it on one of the early live shows and she was SPOT ON.
So yeah if this was a US show Dinah would be a bigger pull but ask a UK person who Dinah Jane is they’ll likely have no clue.
if Diana Vickers isn’t on this then I demand the whole thing is cancelled x
I don't think you can really argue a member of Fifth Harmony is a barrel scrape for the UK but simultaneously not say a thing about Samantha Jade
I mean both of them are, to me getting random international people just feels like none of the big or memorable names from our own series would do it so they had to find a few others to fill it Which is fine, the international acts saved BGT Champions tbh, I guess they can't help it if the likes of Leona, Matt Cardle, Rebecca, Shayne Ward won't do it but when it's called All Stars you don't expect an XF Aus winner and "the one off Fifth Harmony"
I guess it might end up being refreshing though having "out there" choices with another shot at the crown
Why do I feel like Four Of Diamonds will do it lmao
I think they're great but NOBODY will remember them!
Oh wow, that was a brilliant audition of Feel It Still
Wrong show
Paula Abdul is judging this, randomly She was always good on Idol though so I'm not mad at it.
They are all genius, a stars !
Could they really not get one of the old judges back to do it? Even like Mel B or Tulisa?!
I was genuinely looking forwards to this but now I think it just sounds like trash. I mean seriously one fifth of Fifth Harmony lol. Nobody even knows who they are bar Camilla and the one who duetted with Sam Smith... And then an Australian winner that again nobody knows
I thought Leona was supposed to have signed up to this? Not here for X Factor from around the world tbh I want the UK ones, and if they can't get them back then don't bother doing it. There is plenty to choose from afterall come on...
- Steve Brookstein
- G4
- Shayne Ward
- Andy Abraham
- Chico
- Leona Lewis
- Ray Quinn
- Leon Jackson
- Rhydian Roberts
- Same Difference
- Alexandra Burke
- JLS (or a member of JLS maybe rather than 5th Harmony aka Aston Merrigold)
- Eoghan Quinn
- Diana Vickers
- Ruth Lorenzo
- Joe McElderry
- Olly Murs
- Stacey Solomon
- Jedward
- Matt Cardle
- Rebecca Ferguson
- One Direction (I mean total no chance bu Louis maybe lol)
- Cher Lloyd
- Little Mix (again fat chance lol)
- Marcus Collins
- Amelia Lilly
- James Arthur
- Jahmene Douglas
- Christopher Baloney (oops sorry Maloney)
- Union J
- Rylan Clark
- Ella Henderson
- Lucy Spraggen
- Sam Bailey
- Ben Haenow
- Fleur East
- Andrea Faustini
- Stereokicks
- Jake Quickenden
- Louisa Johnson
- Reggie and Bollie
- Matt Terry
- Saara Alto
- Rak Su
- Dalton Harris
All the above are name / acts who came top 3, or did well after the show or are remembered... surely they can get a decent line up from the above. I mean I know they aren't going to get Olly, One Direction lads or Little Mix but surely they could have got a member of JLS rather than Fifth Harmony and some decent UK acts who have nothing to lose from doing it (Leona tbh sadly).
Also Paula Abdul judging seriously wtf? She has nothing to do with X Factor or even the UK? Surely they can get some of the previous judges back I mean again:
- Simon
- Louis
- Sharon
- Cheryl
- Nicole
- Danni
- Mel B
- Gary
- Tulisa
- Kelly
- Louis
- Rita
- Nick
- Robbie
- Robbie's wife whatever her name is
Really they should be trying to get the All Star judging line up which is Simon, Cheryl, Danni and Louis. But Tulisa would do it at the drop of a hat let's face it. Mel B would very likely be up for it (also still a high profile name attached to the show), Louis was supposed to have loved it.
They really should have the old judges back.
The ideal panel to pay homage to the days when the show was massive is Simon, Louis, Dannii and Cheryl.
I would accept Sharon in there too.
The X Factor fails to accept, the constant changing of judges has damaged the show.
I think Scarlett Lee is on this - she said she had to cancel plans this winter and when asked about it said she couldn’t discuss it.
"X Factor All Stars" will be coming for a full week on tv between Saturday 7th - Sunday 15th of December:
https://twitter.com/superTV247/status/1189919541054361600?s=19
This has been axed in favour of X Factor: The Band apparently....
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10271963/simon-cowell-little-mix-rival-show/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
That's literally Popstars The Rivals and how petty to Little Mix!!
:') what even
He should've just avoided the embarrassment and pushed on with All Stars because he's gonna be left red-faced when Little Mix's show is more successful x
Loool oh dear clearly threatened by Little Mix’s upcoming show . Simon really is losing it !
I think the more successful one will be whichever one airs first tbh, I'd imagine the public would see whichever airs later as a ripoff.
Little Mix’s show will probably be the more real less scripted one of the two and they have current knowledge on what it takes to be successful in the streaming world.
Simons losing his touch lately. I think Little Mix’s show might do better. X Factor hasn’t produced a star since the streaming era become prominent in the charts.
I’m guessing that all stars has been axed because of the lack of stars they got to sign up though. An all star series would’ve worked like
5 year ago though when the show was still in a pretty decent-ish place. I’m relieved it’s not going ahead in a sense.
It's a shame about All Stars, I was actually looking forward to it.
I wonder when the band show will air?
LMAO. What a bitter man! He really shoulda stuck with All Stars! I was far more excited for that than even the celebrity one!
I’m guessing possibly not enough all stars signed up?
Poor Sammy Jade pushed to the side like that
What a tragic downfall this show has had. At least Big Brother’s was a lot more steady!
So they’re expecting to turn round a show in one month? That has left no time for any normal person to audition so I expect it will be full of social media stars etc. What’s the difference between this and normal X Factor? Why is anyong going to care about who wins after they’ve known them for one week?
Simon has well and truly lost it.
A damn mess
DS are reporting this will air in 2020 instead
What an absolute hot mess this show and indeed the whole format has turned into. It's literally the pop reality TV equivalent of a crazy ex-boyfriend or girlfriend going around after being dumped loudly proclaiming to anyone who'll listen that they're fine, whilst engaging in behaviour that suggests they quite patently aren't.
Simon has been trailing this now axed All Stars series since the start of this year. This fakakta yabbering onto Dan Wootton that he had the idea before Little Mix decided to do their show for the BBC is as false and staged as this show has been for the last six/seven years of its existence. And his glib declarations about how clued up he is about K-pop is beyond embarrassing.
One thing that Cheryl said about him in an interview years ago is absolutely spot on. When something's not working, he wants no part of it and/or dismisses it ever happening to begin with. When something good is happening that he's not got full involvement with, he wants to take the credit or try and outdo it with a knock off version that misses the point completely. I point you all in the direction of Girl Thing who he tried (and failed) to launch in 2000 after the Spice Girls happened.
It's probably going to anyway given how low ratings for Celebrity have been but I really hope this comes back and bites him on the backside. Poetic justice indeed.
https://www.itv.com/xfactor/apply/apply-now-for-the-x-factor-the-band
Applications are open, and it confirms it will be aired next momth.
I was looking forward to all stars as i had hoped it would have some of the previous participants i liked, everything with x factor is just a joke now, surely the end is near.
The fact that he doesn’t even want bands to apply either... 👀
If he thinks he’s making a successful group in one month, he’s deluded.
It’s as though he’s trying to kill the competition (The Masked Singer, Little Mix) by killing his own show.
And the fact he’s acting as if it’s an original idea when Popstars: The Rivals did it years ago
The fact they're turning this around so quickly just reeks of desperation. Shame about All Stars, I was looking forward to that - in fact I think it's exactly what the format needed to remind people why they liked it so much in the first place.
This is absolutely ridiculous. I am apalled!
I was so looking forward to seeing ex contestants return for All Stars.
Luckily the article says "There is every possibility next year there could be three X Factor shows — Celebrity, All Stars and another group show." so at least maybe it will still air next year.
It seem ridiculous to be launching a band when he has literally put together V5 on the celebrity version so what is the point in that if they are gonna be creating new groups next month?
I seriously doubt that he has any chance of getting the Christmas number one with the winning band.
I think X Factor needs a two year break tbh.
Bring it back in 2022 or even 2023 but it would fare better if they put it on hiatus then brought it back in a few year down the line with a fresher feel to it.
We don’t want an all stars version we just want a decent X Factor series.
'and now in record time!!!'
How incredibly embarrassing.
I echo everyone else, I was looking forward to some familiar faces.
It just comes across as petty trying to get one over Little Mix . The Band idea could have waited and happened some time next year if he really wanted to do it especially as he’s got a few groups on the Celebrity Version ( No Love Lost and V5 in particular) that have potential to do decently.
I was truly looking forward to All Stars and i am very disappointed it is not happening.
It is understandable why previous contestants do not want to do it, like us, they see that X Factor is passed its sell by date.
It's ridiculous that he's doing this and it's very, VERY clear that it's all in spite and nothing else. He needs to take a break. He's in full panic mode and it's ruining and killing the show completely.
Mark your watches people: 6th November 2019 was when we got video evidence of Simon losing it completely. Also his dog's reaction in this is EVERYTHING.
That video has gone down so badly on social media! Rightfully so oops.
I am CRINGING!!
Oh god that’s a bad video
Also... why say biggest boy group or biggest girl group. If anything there’s a gap in the market for a mixed group in my opinion. I wonder how many people will actually apply for though theres hardly any time to rehearse for them.
I'm sure nearly everyone who 'auditions' will be scouted.
I’m actually surprised this has never reared its head before now under this format considering Popstars and Popstars: The Rivals gave us some of the biggest bands in the history of pop. I’m intrigued by it, but also feel like it’s just going to fall flat on its arse ratings wise.
Doing it in spite of Little Mix's upcoming show?
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a29770086/x-factor-groups-simon-cowell-little-mix-feud/
Simon admitting he brought it forward because of Little Mix's show - though does mention it's an English version of his format 'La Banda', which launched CNCO.
"Sometimes you wanna be the first one to do it in a certain country."
I mean... Popstars existed hun
Popstars: The Rivals was THAT show! The first Reality TV show I was absolutely obsessed with.
Rivals format could have potentially drawn more interest here by creating a new boyband and girlband.
They will never top Popstars! That and the original Pop Idol are still the best there’s ever been!
An auditionee has posted their experience of the show on the Digital Spy forums:
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2359143/x-factor-the-band-my-experience
Just noticed this bit, very interesting:
"Those who didn't get through in the last couple of days auditions but passed 2 out of 3 sections has been invited back if they play an instrument such as guitar, drums. Explaining that they are looking at possibly creating a live instrumental band who can sing well also. It looks like maybe they are looking a band like busted, McFly, 5SOS"
Also, this tweet from Wesley from Emblem3 (X Factor USA season 2 4th place) suggests that All Stars will happen next year:
Ok at least people won’t get bored of it if it is so short
Oh my gos
All this just to spite Little Mix :')
This is gonna be a total mess and I'm here for it
This being on through the week could mean slightly better ratings? I think Celeb could be doing better if they had that on a week day too.
But just four episodes means we’re really not gonna get to know any of them and it’s gonna feel so rushed. Simon needs a better team tbh like he must be surrounded by yes people who are scared of disagreeing incase they get the boot he needs someone to be like Stop
The judges are literally just Nicole and Simon, I'm HOWLING that even Louis cba
I'm kind of intrigued by just how bad this will actually end up being, they might as well go all out and have it be a complete parody of itself at this stage.
This is such a heated mess!!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/x-factors-future-balance-itv-21035684
omg just LET IT GO already
"The latest spin-off comes after an All Stars version was planned for this month but was scrapped after not enough former winners could be persuaded to take part.
Leona Lewis was said to have signed up before changing her mind and pulling out. The show was said to have been postponed until 2020 – but has now also been scrapped."
Man alive! Time for them to axe Eastenders over this.
Who's going to watch this mess tonight?
I think I’ll give it a watch since there’s absolutely nothing interesting on except the soaps
Actually quite good so far, they should've made this a long show instead of Celebrity.
Yeah I'm really enjoying this so far, colour me shocked cos I went in for a mess 😂
Omg the guy that sang Jump I'm crying 😂😂
I'm finding this really dry Like they're taking it a bit more seriously I think but there's just not a lot to it.
How on earth is Adam 17?
Is the show a 2 week run only?
1 week! 4 episodes
The guy singing Lover 😍
I surprisingly enjoyed it as I thought it would be very skip through, its showing potential but does have pop stars the rivals vibe. Happy to see the original theme tunr back on the closing credits as I didn't like the new one on celebrity.
I actually thought this was decent also . I really liked the format and how simple it was . The advisors were a good touch and really added as well .
This was a decent show, and an improvement on the very dull celebrity version.
The ratings will not be adding any faith into the franchise unless it picks up.
I made a prediction this would flop with around 2 million, but would beat the little shèts bbc version. I might be about to lose my 100% prediction rate We'll see though.
Absolutely horrendous.
I’m sure if they did a normal X factor it still would have managed around 3-4m viewers. We need time to connect with the individuals not be over in a couple of weeks
Interesting to see will the ratings dip even lower.
They got this and Celeb the wrong way round.
Someone else said this and I agree
With the Celeb version we know them (well we’re supposed to) so it takes less time for us to get invested in people we already know. If you like someone anyways you’ll support them. That should’ve been the four episode long series and the band should’ve been the longer series over a period of weeks where you get invested in the members. Have like three shows of boys, three shows of girls or something idk.
Also that Tallia storm was so set up. Like she’d have auditioned had she not been guaranteed to get through. I feel for any girl who’s in a band with her if she gets in. She acts like she’s on Madonna’s level of fame already also surely there’s a gap in the market for a mixed group. Why limit and make it boy group or girl group.
Meh. It wasn’t bad but the show itself has just lost the sense of fun and in escapable TV it once had.
It used to be my favourite thing to watch. Even during the week I’d always be on social media seeing what the contestants were singing that week, looking at the themes each week. Now even when it’s actually on I’m not that invested in it. It’s a bit like I’m watching it out of habit. I really feel a break would do the brand a whole load of good.
Leona *.*
Everyone else just go home and give Jess a solo deal
Did Jess win the first series of The Voice Kids.
Pixie mentored her? I’m sure I’ve seen her before
omg she did I thought she looked familiar
Kelli Marie is so impressive to write songs with such an emotional connection that resonates so much with people her age. She needs to do well!
They dragged out Celebrity X Factor so much and now whizzing through this at lightning speed, when it’s 10x better 🤷🏻♂️
ugh she just had to bring up her Instagram account didn’t she
I’m much preferring this as well to the Celeb Version they definitely have done it the wrong way round in terms of episodes and just overall attention and effort should have been on this instead .
Tallia Storm is so rancid, anyone who watched her on Celebs Go Dating, she was absolutely horrendous on that. Horrible level of superiority complex.
They should have gone with a girl band, boyband and a mixed.
The X Factor has been renewed for 1 more year, but BGT has been renewed for 5 more.
1.45m watched the X Factor Band on Wednesday night lower ratings than Bargain Hunt.
Crikey, but it did have The Apprentice to contend with. Apparently Channel 5 got 1.9m?
Ratings are terrible which will make it even harder for the winning group to get anywhere. The extra factor got higher ratings than this a few years back.
Dalton Harris is performing his new single tomorrow
1.6m last night apparently.
Ouch, that is bad.
I hope in unrelated news that Danny Tetley rots in prison after being found guilty of this:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7789403/X-Factor-semi-finalist-Danny-Tetley-ADMITS-sexually-exploited-SEVEN-teenage-boys.html
Tough read that.
Disgusting
Terrible about Danny.
10,000 messages!! There must be so many people he’s done that too and probably from way before he was on the show too as well tbh but it’s only now he’s actually been caught
Wouldnt shock me if he done it before the ones he’s been caught for too and it being young kids from when he worked in Spain.
Im surprised he admitted it as I’m sure he was denying it not long ago but it seems like he had to with all the proof of what was there. I had strange vibes off him when he was on the show tbh not thinking he was anything like what he was but he did come off very insincere and a bit forced. The coke video what went round of him too added to that as well.
The only thing I’m worried about with tonight and the post-Show success of the winning group is the lack of a connection they’re going to have with the public? Not only will there be a lack of group chemistry, we’re not going to be able to warm to them like we would have done on a normal show. I’ll be shocked if any success comes from this at all.
However, I am here for a stomping bop of a winning single! No ballads please Simon x
The girls are called Real Like You and the boys are Unwritten Rule - and both have Twitter, Instagram and Facebook accounts.
Not a fan of the name Real Like You at all
Real Like You is an AWFUL name, Unwritten Rule slightly better...!
Both awful names but Unwritten Rule is the better of the two.
Unwiritten Rule is a decent enough name but girls that name what where you thinking ..... ? Still rooting for the girls overall though will be interesting to see how tonight works !
Tonight’s Song Choices !
Girls
Independent Woman – Destiny’s Child
Sorry Not Sorry – Demi Lovato
Problem / I Can’t Feel My Face – Ariana Grande / The Weeknd
Be Like Them – Original
Boys
Bad Guy – Billie Eilish
Dance Monkey – Tones and I
Love Me Like You Do – Ellie Goulding
Before You Go – Lewis Capaldi
Christ those 3 of the boys song choices don’t really scream boy band. Could’ve predicted they’d sing something by the final artist mentioned. Song choice wise the girls have better tracks what are more suited to them.
They were both amazing wow
Bloody hell the boy group are awful
This is actual good wtf
Dreadful 🤢
The girls are killing it with their performances. The boys seem to be on another planet, well out of their depth
The girls could actually be huge.
I just wish it had more time so we would know all of their names by now.
Dermot to Unwritten Rule ‘They are household names in their households’
The girls will blow them out with their last performance.
Comparing them to Leona??
Max Martin promo.
The girls have GOT to win this there last 2 performances have been great and are showing a lot of potential .
Dalton was INCREDIBLE just then probably one of the best ever singers to ever be on this show imo .
Real Like You were so much better, great to see the GP can still be trusted to give us the right XF winners with this and Megan winning Celebs.
I really like that track, hope they release it as a single. My only nitpick is the name of the girl band, it doesn't really click with me, but they do have potential, as all the girls have different ranges in their voices.
The right group won to be fair and nice they have an original release. I really hope they do well as they performed so great with so little time. No big name guest performers was disappointing, I like dalton but not sure about his new song.
I wonder if Max will work with the girl group and that’s why Simon was plugging Him and his show
That was a great song, Jess and Kelli-Marie are both incredibly talented. Deserved winners. The boys were...not great.
The girls were so much better! Deserved winners.
I didn't watch the show and didn't hear any of the band members sing. But when the groups were both put together, I looked at the pictures of both groups and girls looked so much better. This might be a shallow approach to evaluating groups, but I remember back when they put One Direction together. The first time I saw a picture of them from Spain, I knew Simon had a real moneymaker there. The boyband that they put together for this show just didn't have the look.
Anyway, I'm watching the performances right now and the girls sound really good.
A girl group winning when they have this show on against Little Mix's and just lost Little Mix from their roster, hmm, call me cynical but that is quite neat for them...
Well it was 50/50 and the girl group were definitely much better
Just seen the girls' performance, that was great! I think considering they barely had any time to get it together and gel as a group, they actually seem to have real potential. Real Like You is an absolutely terrible name but then Little Mix is hardly a great name and that didn't stop them.
I'd not be surprised if they barely bothered with them tbh though given the low viewing figures It doesn't help it was all rushed through, so they're not gonna have a recorded song to put out fresh from their win. Maybe waiting til January will be better to launch I guess
Is their single not going straight to release?
I mean Simon doesn’t really have any big UK acts left on his label... So I can imagine him at least trying an era with the girls. Also wouldn’t be surprised if Leona signed back to Syco.
It is really weird that they don't have a winner's single. Surely I thought they would have released the song Kelli wrote as they performed it twice on the show.
The first time they performed it together, it was amazing and definitely seemed like a winning performance.
I liked the boys too, they had some really good singers.
Megan didn't seem to really have a proper winner's single on the celebrity version either.
Just 1.7m tuned in for the final of this last night. Ding dong, the show is dead.
Those figures are bad for a prime time sunday night slot.actyally they are bad full stop.
And yet despite those ridiculously low numbers, ITV have agreed to have another series next year lmao (presumably of the regular series). If that series flops, it's hard to see it surviving beyond that. At least this year it has the spin-offs excuse.
I think bgt plays a massive part tbh in X factor being renewed
Was it not renewed until 2020 anyway prior to Celebrity and The Band flopping? I do think it was BGT though, they seem have a deal with Simon that includes both shows. I think they should just do All Stars and then bow out for sure because it's such an embarrassing decline.
I think it is the only way X Factor will draw some decent viewing figures by doing a good All Stars Show.
That said, i cant see it happening, some of the winners alone have been treated badly.
Returning to a show that isnt a ratings success anymore is a risk and acts like Little Mix and Olly Murs wont risk taking part as they dont need to.
(wasn't sure where to post this, went here as it's the most recent series)
The Sun are reporting that The X Factor will be rested for a year - to return in 2021.
I think its gonna need a longer rest than a year if they want the return to have any success
This is good news tbh.
I don’t want to see it axed but the XF we got last year was horrible to watch tbh. Having time off screens will hopefully give time to buck ideas up and hopefully take things back to a format what’s uncomplicated.
I wonder what ITV will fill the time slot with tbh as there’ll be no BGT Champions either so they’ve got 12 weeks to fill pretty much
I honestly just think it won't come back
i can’t see past a second series of the masked singer tbh
Unsurprising. I think Masked Singer will undoubtedly go in its place given it's surprising success. Either that or ITV are about to find out the hard way what it's like to have the losing side for the first time in over a decade.
Yeah, in the US The Masked Singer is now in its third (!) season despite just launching last spring. The producers are clearly going to milk that one.
With that said, either Simon needs to put on a good final season or completely revamp the format to modernize it with the streaming taken into account (then again - why not do an entirely new format?).
X Factor needs a huge change as it just came so stale. I really think they were so lazy with the themes repeating the themes over and over again which reuslted with the same songs always getting used. They had so many choices to change that. I used to enjoy when they would do a Take That week or a Madonna week and have the artist there. I also think they really need to realise the show isnt about the judging panel and in the later years it all seemed about the judges more than the contestants. They also need someone who isnt afraid to really criticse performances on the show, the comments Simon had for Vinnie Jones on the celerity version for example were just pathetic as he couldn't sing but going by simon and all the other comments you would think he had the voice of Mariah Carey.
What even happened to the girl band? I actually thought their winning song was pretty good and they didn’t even release it.
I’m thinking they could’ve been planning to have the girl band come back with a brand new single debuted on BGT live shows but now that’s been postponed who knows.
They have potential though but I get the feeling Kelly Marie (was that her name the main writer in the group) may have better success on her own as opposed to being in a band.
There still together Real Like You the girl group I follow them on Instagram and they do Insta lives quite a lot and post pictures and videos but obviously there’s only so much they can do with what’s going on right now .
I wonder had any songs been drawn down before everything happened and was there plans in place for a single?
I think it would have been worthwhile getting a song out at any point in the past few months. A big promotional campaign isn’t really needed these days and they definitely needed something out there to keep them in the publics mind.
Why their winning song wasn’t released is beyond me given it was quite good.
They certainly look like they’re gearing up for something now!
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