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Posted by: gooddelta 7th April 2008, 04:56 PM

Here's a list of statistics I've put together based purely on the finals of all ten Buzzjack Song Contests held so far...It does not refer to semi-finals, only finals unless otherwise stated...I will edit it/update it as and when I find new stats...thanks to Peter30, Aaron and thisispop for help with a couple of these stats

Winners

BJSC I: Mdiče: Britney Spears - And Then We Kiss
BJSC II: Bokia: Katherine McPhee - Dangerous
BJSC III: Bhangra: Dixie Chicks - Not Ready To Make Nice
BJSC IV: FSR Rontvia: Sara Bareilles - Love Song
BJSC V: Eledan: t.A.T.u - Gomenasai
BJSC VI: Quotosibb: Beverley Knight - Black Butta
BJSC VII: Mdiče: Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl
BJSC VIII: Nonsuch: Lily Allen – Guess Who Batman
BJSC IX: Kingdom Of Shadow: Margaret Berger - Will You Remember Me Tomorrow?
BJSC X: Mdiče: Brandy - Right Here (Departed)
BJSC XI : Eledan: Lenka - The Show
BJSC XII: Kopečka: La Roux - Quicksand
BJSC XIII: Herzebania: Agnes - Release Me
BJSC XIV: FSR Rontvia: Uh Huh Her - Not A Love Song
BJSC XV: Mdiče: Royksopp; Robyn - The Girl and the Robot
BJSC XVI: Mdiče: VV Brown - Shark In The Water
BJSC XVII: FSR Rontvia: Beautiful Small Machines - Robots In Love
BJSC XVIII: Mdiče: Kesha - TiK ToK/Dolla
BJSC XIX: Kathaldazia: Eva Simons - Silly Boy
BJSC XX: Numayania: Alphabeat - The Spell
BJSC XXI: Lorikeet: Dolly Rockers - Boys Will Be Boys
BJSC XXII: BaNG: Ellie Goulding - Under The Sheets
BJSC XXIII: Quotosibb: Marina & The Diamonds – Hollywood

Best Of BJSC I-X: Kingdom Of Shadow: Margaret Berger - Will You Remember Me Tomorrow?
Best Of BJSC I-X - The Rejects: Kingdom Of Shadow: Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Heartbreak Make Me A Dancer
Best Of BJSC XI-XX: Mdiče: Royksopp; Robyn - The Girl And The Robot
Best Of BJSC XI-XX - The Rejects: Kylienips: Pet Shop Boys - Love, etc.

Hosts

BJSC I: Bokia; Bokitown
BJSC II: Mdiče & Kopečka; Vartza
BJSC III: Bokia; Bokitown
BJSC IV: Bhangra; Bhang
BJSC V: FSR Rontvia; Constarvan
BJSC VI: Eledan; Feethoo
BJSC VII: Quotosibb; Siobah
BJSC VIII: FSR Rontvia; Constarvan
BJSC IX: Nonsuch; Mummer
BJSC X: Kingdom of Shadow; Kentish Town
The Best of the BuzzJack Song Contest I-X: Ashton & Kopečka; Zagorasta, Kopečka [nominations]; Morpeth Cove, Ashton [semi-finals/final]
BJSC XI: Mdiče; Vartza
BJSCXII: Eledan; Feethoo
BJSCXIII: Kopečka; Zagorasta
BJSCXIV: Herzebania; Dacia
BJSCXV: Quotosibb; Bhux
BJSCXVI: Mdice; Vartza
BJSCXVII: Torchwood; Cardopia
BJSCXVIII: FSR Rontvia; Klurren
BJSCXIX: Numayania; New Svetlandiya
BJSCXX: Kathaldazia; Disco Heaven
BJSCXXI: Numayania; New Svetlandiya
The Best of the BuzzJack Song Contest XI-XX: Ashton & Kopečka; Zagorasta, Kopečka [nominations]; Sjan Tivor, Ashton [Semi's] Morpeth Cove, Ashton [final]
BJSCXXII: Lorikeet; Pangolin
BJSCXXIII: BaNG; The Island of Naked Gardens
BJSCXXIV: Quotosibb; Siobah

All countries that have ever participated in the final:

Allecian: 3rd, 8th, 12th, 26th, 27th, 27th 423
Angelicland: 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 4th, 6th, 6th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 12th, 15th, 18th, 21st, 21st, 22nd 1736
Ashton: 2nd, 4th. 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 9th, 14th, 16th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 20th, 21st, 21st, 23rd, 23rd 1554
Astoria: 15th, 16th, 18th 155
B.a.N.G: 1st, 6th, 9th, 11th, 14th, 16th, 18th, 19th, 25th, 25th, 26th 958
Ben’s Sanctuary: 6th, 7th, 10th, 18th, 22nd 477
Bhangra: 1st, 4th, 4th, 5th, 5th, 7th, 13th, 14th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 25th, 27th, 27th, 29th 1180
Blackcurrentbillyoland: 12th 77
Bokia: 1st, 5th, 5th, 11th, 14th, 16th, 17th, 20th 529
Botanikka: 3rd, 5th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 12th, 12th, 14th, 14th, 16th, 17th, 17th, 21st, 22nd, 28th 1254
Britmasu: 9th, 23rd, 24th, 25th 280
Brokeback Mountain: 7th, 11th, 24th, 27th, 27th, 28th, 29th 392
Cadbury: 11th, 11th, 17th, 21st 359
Camdonia: 22nd, 24th, 24th, 25th, 25th 213
Camtoro: 29th 17
Cascadia: 2nd, 5th, 13th, 15th, 21st, 24th 342
Charisma: 23rd 8
Dalisska: 10th, 13th, 14th, 14th 16th 17th, 18th, 24th, 24th, 24th, 27th 765
Deandria 4th, 17th, 20th 28th 318
Dulpaen: 19th, 29th 71
Eggabac: 17th 63
Eledan: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 7th, 11th, 13th, 13th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 22nd, 25th, 26th, 26th, 28th 1241
Espen: 8th, 16th, 23rd 268
Faztickle: 2nd, 8th, 13th, 15th, 16th, 19th, 22nd, 23rd 541
Fervorosia: 10th, 13th, 20th 21st, 24th, 27th, 28th, 28th, 28th 515
Fortunia: 28th 38
Frahliso: 4th, 6th, 10th, 16th, 18th, 19th, 19th, 23rd 27th, 568
FSR Farahtyn: 3rd, 8th, 16th, 16th, 17th, 23rd, 25th, 26th, 27th 29th 506
FSR Rontvia: 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 10th, 10th, 14th, 18th, 18th, 19th, 25th 2292
FNT Nickodonia: 3rd, 12th, 18th, 20th, 23rd, 25th, 26th, 27th 579
Fortunia: 24th 28th 93
Gacktistan: 15th 41
Greenfroze: 9th, 10th, 19th, 27th 348
Greenland: 17th 57
Hendinia: 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 9th 11th, 12th, 15th, 29th 1257
Herzebania: 1st, 8th, 10th, 15th, 17th, 20th, 20th, 21st, 24th 785
Hitanya: 12th, 22nd, 25th 194
Iceyland: 4th 100
Inner Massivia: 5th, 13th 225
Jrk-Off: 7th, 8th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 23rd, 29th 604
Kathaldazia: 1st, 2nd, 15th, 17th, 23th, 24th, 26th 762
Kellyana’s Kingdom: 3rd, 6th, 18th 337
Kingdom Of Shadow: 1st, 5th, 6th, 6th, 9th, 11th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 13th, 16th, 18th, 21st, 21st, 23rd 1378
Kingdom Of Waldia: 19th, 20th 55
Kopecka: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th 4th 7th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 18th, 19th, 19th, 19th, 19th, 26th 2085
Kylienips: 3rd, 4th, 4th, 6th, 7th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 14th, 15th, 22nd, 24th 1020
Land Of Jack: 8th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 15th, 20th, 21st, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 26th, 26th, 26th 824
Leonville: 19th, 23rd 55
Liechenstaan: 20th, 22nd 140
Lievant: 14th, 16th, 17th, 25th 334
Londonski: 10th 72
Lorikeet: 1st, 4th, 8th, 10th, 11th, 11th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 21st, 24th, 25th, 25th, 26th, 28th 1236
Lotopialand: 9th, 25th, 28th, 29th 248
Mdice: 1st, 1st ,1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th, 7th, 7th, 7th, 7th, 10th, 12th, 13th, 16th, 22nd 2515
MKL: 2nd, 2nd, 5th, 6th,7th 10th, 14th, 16th, 18th, 25th 1049
New Alba: 12th, 15th, 22nd 117
New Rivermaya: 9th, 15th 184
Nonsuch: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th ,7th, 8th, 9th 9th, 13th, 15th, 19th, 22th, 24th, 26th, 26th 1590
Numayania: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 8th, 9th, 11th, 14th, 17th, 27th 1204
Ojnoj: 6th 10th, 13th, 15th, 17th, 18th, 18th, 18th, 21st, 26th 26th, 27th 858
Palmyra: 14th 87
People‘s Republic of Jester: 10th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 20th, 21st, 21st, 25th, 27th, 27th 768
Phinechendza: 9th, 21st 102
Phlumptopia: 13th, 20th 135
PoisonVine Bay: 16th, 24th 64
Priceville: 11th, 14th, 12th, 15th, 18th 354
Quotosibb: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 4th, 5th, 9th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 11th, 12th, 16th, 16th, 19th,19th 24th 1971
Rabbitland: 6th 74
Rivandia: 3rd, 12th, 12th, 14th, 14th, 15th , 19th, 20th, 21st,28th 28th 706
Romeria: 2nd, 20th 137
Sangria: 4th, 4th, 5th, 10th, 14th, 14th, 24th, 660
Scassoorian: 17th 46
Scherzland: 7th, 9th 268
Simondly: 2nd, 5th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 12th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 16th, 17th, 19th, 20th, 22nd, 30th 1061
Singing Gods Land: 24th 16
Skall: 5th, 18th 22nd 270
Spila: 6th, 9th, 22nd 187
Spizil: 25th 44
Stevinia: 20th, 23rd 136
Tapatilandia: 9th, 10th, 19th, 23rd, 24th 277
Tinnmark: 3rd, 14th, 17th 17th, 24th, 26th 502
Torchwood: 2nd, 2nd, 8th, 8th, 11th, 12th, 12th, 15th, 15th, 15th, 20th, 21st, 23rd, 26th, 27th 1418
Triodopolis: 7th, 9th, 15th, 21st, 22nd 349
Tyleratia: 19th 37
Tyronosarusland: 2nd, 23rd 160
United States Of Jack: 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 10th, 19th, 22nd, 22nd, 22nd, 24th 1300
UnoShake: 5th, 20th 194
Utopia: 2nd, 5th, 11th, 13th, 15th 17th, 18th, 20th, 22nd, 22nd, 23rd, 23rd, 23rd, 26th 961
Vulcania: 9th 101
Xanaga: 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 13th, 13th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 19th, 19th 1462
Xyland: 7th, 23rd 177
Zechonia: 5th, 16th 228

Countries that have appeared in semi-finals but have never reached a final

Hackyack
Mykanovia
Norwegia
Republic of Tron
Rossland
Tartford
Tasha Island

Gender of winners

Female soloists: 15 (18 if you count both Best Of and Rejects competitions)
Male soloists: 0
Female duos/groups: 4
Male duos/groups: 0 (2 if you count both Best Of BJSC XI-XX and XI-XX Rejects competitions)
Mixed duos/groups: 3

Nationality of winning artists:

American: 9
British: 6 (+2 in Rejects)
Russian: 1
Norwegian: 3 (+ same artist won the Best Of BJSCI-X and Best OF BJSC XI-XX)
Australian: 1
Swedish: 1
Dutch: 1
Danish: 1

n.b Royksopp are deemed to be Norwegian despite featuring Robyn who is Swedish.

Most Appearances in the final:
(21 appearances)

Kopecka
FSR Rontvia

Most top ten finishes:

Mdice (16)

Most consecutive top ten finishes:

Mdice (9 > X-XVIII)

Most top five finishes:

FSR Rontvia (10)

Most consecutive top five finishes:

Numayania (4)

Most top three finishes:

Mdiče (9)

Most consecutive top three finishes

Numayania (3)

Most top two finishes

Mdice (7)

Most consecutive top two finishes

FSR Rontvia (2)
Mdice (2)
Numayania (2)

Most wins

Mdice (6) (+ TBO XI-XX)

Most finishes in the same position:

Mdice (6 1st place finishes) (+ TBO XI-XX)

Countries to have finished in every position in the top five at least once (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th place on at least one occasion)

FSR Rontvia (and 6th)

Most points scored in total (top 10 scoring nations based on total points accrued in the final from all nineteen contests):

1) [01] Mdice (2515 Points)
2) [02] FSR Rontvia (2292 Points)
3) [03] Kopecka (2085 Points)
4) [05] Quotosibb (1971 Points)
5) [07] Angelicland (1736 Points)
6) [05] Nonsuch (1590 Points)
7) [06] Ashton (1554 Points)
8) [10] Xanaga (1462 Points)
9) [8] Torchwood (1418 Points)
10) [9] Kingdom Of Shadow (1378 Points)

Top 20 Countries based on Top 10 finishes (12 Pts = 1st, 10 Pts = 2nd, 8 Pts = 3rd, 7 Pts = 4th........ to 1 Pt = 10th) (Ties split on ESC best result count back system):

1st [01] Mdice 111
2nd [02] FSR Rontvia 101
3rd [03] Kopecka 77
4th [05] Angelicland 59
5th [04] Nonsuch 52
6th [06] Quotosibb 47
7th [07] Ashton/Fotherington Islands 44
8th [08] Bhangra 42
9th [09] Numayania 39
10th [10] MKL 36
11th [11] Eledan 34
12th [12] United States Of Jack 34
13th [13] Kylienips 31
14th [14] Kingdom Of Shadow 30
15th [17] United States Of Ibiza/Russiatron 29
16th [15] Hendinia 28
17th [16] Botanikka 28
18th [18] Bokia 23
19th [**] Lorikeet 23
20th [19] Torchwood 23

Most points accrued without winning:

1) [01] Angelicland (1736 Points)
2) [02] Ashton (1554 Points)
3) [04] Xanaga (1462 Points)
4) [03] Torchwood (1418 Points)
5) [06] United States Of Jack (1300 Points)
6) [10] Hendinia (1257 Points)
7) [05] Botannika (1254 Points)
8) [08] Simondly (1061 Points)
9) [10] MKL (1049 Points)
10) [09] Kylienips (1020 Points)

Most successful songs (based on percentage of possible points they could have scored from other countries

1) Kathaldazia – Eva Simons – Silly Boy – 45% (BJSC XIX)
2) FSR Rontvia - Sara Bareilles - Love Song - 43% (BJSC IV)
3) Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed a Girl - 42.3% (BJSC VII)
4) Eledan - t.A.T.u - Gomenasai - 41.3% (BJSC V)
5) Utopia - Pipettes - Pull Shapes - 40.8% (BJSC IV)
6) Herzebania - Agnes Carlsson - Release Me - 40.4% (BJSC XIII)
7) Kingdom of Shadow – Margaret Berger – Will You Remember Me Tomorrow – 39.9% (BJSC IX)
8) Mdiče - VV Brown - Shark In The Water - 38.6% (BJSC XVI)
9) Kopečka - Stefy - Chelsea - 38.2% (BJSC IV)
10) Bhangra - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice - 37.8% (BJSC III)

Highest final points achieved (I-VI)

01) Eledan - t.A.T.u - Gomenasai - 114 [BJSC V // 1st]
02) Quotosibb - Beverley Knight - Black Butta (Live) - 114 [BJSC VI // 1st]
03) Bhangra - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice - 109 [BJSC III // 1st]
04) Bokia - Katharine McPhee - Dangerous - 105 [BJSC II // 1st]
05) Mdiče - Britney Spears - And Then We Kiss - 104 [BJSC I // 1st]
06) Tyronosaurusland - Regina Spektor - Fidelity - 104 [BJSC II // 2nd]
07) Romeria - Europe - The Final Countdown - 103 [BJSC III // 2nd]
08) Kylienips - The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony - 101 [BJSC II // 3rd]
09) Rivandia - Duffy - Mercy (Live) - 100 [BJSC III // 3rd]
10) Iceyland - Lisa Miskovsky - Sing To Me - 100 [BJSC II // 4th]

Highest final points achieved (VII-present 'the modern era')

01) Kathaldazia – Eva Simons – Silly Boy – 265 [BJSC XIX // 1st]
02) Mdiče - Royksopp ft. Robyn - The Girl and the Robot - 207 [BJSC XV // 1st]
03) Herzebania - Agnes Carlsson – Release Me - 199 [BJSC XII // 1st]
04) Mdiče - VV Brown - Shark In The Water - 199 [BJSC XVI // 1st]
05) Kopečka - La Roux - Quicksand - 193 [BJSC XII // 1st]
05) Numayania - Alphabeat - The Spell - 193 [BJSC XX // 1st]
07) FSR Rontvia - Beautiful Small Machines - Robots In Love - 192 [BJSC XVII // 1st]
08) Mdice - Kesha - Dolla - 189 [BJSC XVIII // 1st]
09) Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl - 188 [BJSC VII // 1st]
10) Kingdom of Shadow - Margaret Berger - Will You Remember Me Tomorrow - 187 [BJSC IX // 1st]

Most used artists (by number of appearances in the BJSC semi-final or/and final)

1) Keri Hilson 7
2=) Girls Aloud 5
2=) Lady GaGa 5
2=) Veronicas 5
5=) Ladyhawke 4
5=) Little Boots 4
5=) M.I.A. 4
5=) Royksopp 4
5=) Saturdays 4
5=) Serebro 4
5=) VV Brown 4

Lowest scoring song:

Camdonia - Nine Inch Nails - Hurt (6 Points, BJSC1)

Leonville - Guy Sebastian - Angels Brought Me Here (2 points, BJSC IX semi-final)

Highest scoring song:

Eva Simons – Silly Boy (265 Points, BJSC XIX)

Worst debut:

Camdonia, FSR Fahratyn, Eledan, Singing Gods Land, Camtoro (all last place)

Best debut:

Mdice (1st, BJSC1)
Quotosibb (1st, BJSC6)

Most appearances in the final before first win:

Lorikeet (12)

Least successful country: (one appearance, last place):

Singing Gods Land, Camtoro

Posted by: Pavel 7th April 2008, 05:29 PM

thank you for compiling Rich. Interesting to look

Posted by: David 7th April 2008, 05:32 PM

Good stuff Rich. I shall pin.

Posted by: gooddelta 7th April 2008, 06:01 PM

glad people like it...I've got a book about the Eurovision at home which has a whole stats section at the end so I thought it might be a good idea to keep something similar for this

Posted by: martyn 7th April 2008, 08:06 PM

hahaha wooo for the worst debut

Posted by: gooddelta 7th April 2008, 08:39 PM

at least you significantly improved on it in subsequent contests Martyn! Camdonia's only other entry came second to last

Posted by: Boyan 7th April 2008, 09:33 PM

wow most scored points

Posted by: Pavel 8th April 2008, 05:13 AM

Eledan debuted at the last (20th) place last month I remember it.

Posted by: Medicated Soap 8th April 2008, 06:09 AM

I'm cursed for 7th place, hahaha.

Posted by: PhillyWilly 8th April 2008, 07:59 AM

i lose out on most appearances because of the name change?

Posted by: gooddelta 8th April 2008, 08:31 AM

sorry about that, I forgot about the name change...I've amended the data to include you in it!

Posted by: PhillyWilly 8th April 2008, 08:42 AM

oooh thanks.

great info

Posted by: Trashley 9th April 2008, 01:16 PM

Oooh, I've done quite well

I must lose that most points without winning record though

Posted by: gooddelta 9th April 2008, 01:17 PM

your songs are clearly always well loved

just not good enough to win I'll look forward to seeing what your BJSC6 entry is! You'll have to make sure you vote next time though

Posted by: Trashley 9th April 2008, 01:36 PM

I will

And Serebro - Opium is odds-on to be my entry in June You can download it for free on their website or just YouTube it if you want to hear

It's also blatez gonna win

Posted by: gooddelta 9th April 2008, 06:11 PM

FSR Rontvia wants a second win

oh well, I'm content to have won in the first place

why do Serebro give all of their music away for free? not that I'm complaining of course

Posted by: Pavel 10th April 2008, 02:41 PM

Cause people will still find a way to download it for free.

Russian people would never buy the album or the song after downloading the free version

Including me Besides we don't have such services as "HMV" or something. (I mean such easily-available)

Posted by: Damon 10th April 2008, 02:46 PM

Let's hope you disappear again, and i sneak in and pick it before you

Posted by: gooddelta 10th April 2008, 03:32 PM

keep your eyes peeled for when Pavel opens the song selection process

will my 12 points be going to Kopecka or Frahliso

Posted by: Trashsson 11th May 2008, 06:10 PM

Time for an update

And Rontvia's 12 went to Kopecka

Posted by: Trashsson 11th May 2008, 06:10 PM

Oh, and I've just noticed that Beverly Knight and TATU got the same amount of points!

Posted by: David 11th May 2008, 06:13 PM

I updated the top three, but I see Tyron is doing it now anyway haha.

Posted by: gooddelta 11th May 2008, 06:24 PM

just re-editing this in a sec Mdice don't count as the most appearances with 7, they only count AFTER the 7th competition

Posted by: gooddelta 11th May 2008, 06:42 PM

ok, all done editing...all BJSC6 info is now included! surprising to see our two highest scoring countries are now Kylienips and Kopecka! both yet to pick a winner yet though got any ideas for next time Trahssson!?!

Posted by: David 11th May 2008, 06:49 PM

Ooh I've entered the top five scoring nations.

Posted by: Trashsson 11th May 2008, 07:07 PM

A couple LaFee - Heul Doch; Samantha Mumba with a couple of choices; Ruslana/T-Pain - Moon of Dreams I don't really see any of them winning though, I shall have to think more

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 11th May 2008, 07:35 PM

Beverley ends in an "ey", could someone fix that?

It's good to see we got highest points (although we've probably just had the most votes haven't we?) and the most successful debut since when Mdice won everyone was a debut country. Beverley is the first British act to win as well, good on her.

I'll have to think about my next entry a lot. I'm thinking something by Maria Lawson or Estelle, but they might be a bit similar to what I entered this time - a black british female soul singer. (though Estelle is a bit more R&B/Hip-Hop)

Posted by: Trashsson 11th May 2008, 07:39 PM

Maria Lawson or Alesha Dixon possibly?

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 11th May 2008, 08:25 PM

I have a Maria Lawson song in mind, but I'm not sure how it will do.

I'm not so familiar with the solo career of Alesha Dixon, I might check out some of her stuff in a while.

Posted by: gooddelta 12th May 2008, 06:44 AM

Fixed it was Trashsson who spelt it like that

Posted by: Pavel 12th May 2008, 07:18 AM

Eledan got 114 points with 26(?) countries and Quotosibb got the same with 27

still excellent The first appearance and the 1st place I think you will stay inside the top 5 for a long time with such participants, Aaron


Let's see who will be the next called 'the dark horse' by Rich?!

Posted by: Mart!n 12th May 2008, 07:28 AM

Kylienips I'm getting a bit consistant in the top 5, I'm really stuck for next month

Posted by: gooddelta 12th May 2008, 07:37 AM

it had winner written all over it from the moment I heard that stunning live vocal

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 12th May 2008, 04:53 PM

Thank you. Beverley sounds amazing live, I'm so gutted I forgot when she was touring last year. She came within 10 miles of my house and I didn't go.

Posted by: Pavel 12th May 2008, 04:58 PM

Now i am in love with Bev too

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 12th May 2008, 05:11 PM

Yay, she's so underrated.

Posted by: Simon. 12th May 2008, 05:16 PM

Oi

Posted by: Pavél 16th June 2008, 05:58 PM

bump!

Iwonder how many points does Eledan have? 114+20+57(?)=191?

Posted by: gooddelta 16th June 2008, 06:12 PM

you face an uphill struggle to get into the top five anytime soon because you entered so late

just remember, those who don't get to the final are not counted in the points, so if Natasha gets to the final, any points she gets will be added to your total! if she failed to get to the final, your points would stay at 191

Posted by: Pavél 16th June 2008, 06:24 PM

so i do have 191 in total?

That's sad anyway that points are not added, but that's more exciting on the other hand imo

Posted by: Pavél 16th June 2008, 06:28 PM

i'm sometimes being so stupid there's the thread with all the points. Ignore

Posted by: Johnjo07 16th June 2008, 06:30 PM

That should HOPEFULLY Change this time as this song you've entered is AMAZING! I may have to download her album and see if i like it or not

Edited because I wrote this YEAR when it happens every few months or month doesnt it?

Posted by: gooddelta 16th June 2008, 06:30 PM

you have 193 in total actually 22 + 114 + 57

it wouldn't be feasible to add points from the semi, as then countries who did qualify would get two sets of points added to their total (the points from the semi, and the points from the final)

so for those reasons, I ignore the points from the final when compiling the stats

and that's another reason that it's so tense, and important to qualify for the final

Posted by: Gary-Lee 16th June 2008, 08:11 PM

Wow, Thanks for this Rich- a very informative read.

Posted by: gooddelta 19th June 2008, 07:23 AM

you're welcome Gary...and guess what...you could well replaced Kylienips in the overall top five come Sunday!

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd June 2008, 09:19 PM

have updated some stats...will do the rest tomorrow when I've worked out all the points and stuff

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd June 2008, 05:09 PM

now fully updated with BJSC7 stats...

Mdice now the overall No.1 country, followed by FSR Rontvia, Kopecka, Bhangra and United States Of Ibiza...our new 'Big 5'

Kylienips song that crashed out last in Semi-Final 1 has led to them leaving the overall top 5

Posted by: Gary-Lee 23rd June 2008, 05:36 PM

I'm in the big 5 now

Posted by: nickthenoodle 23rd June 2008, 07:59 PM

I'll be in the big five one day

Posted by: Trashlexis 23rd June 2008, 08:03 PM

Mathematically, you need a few massive wins and some withdrawals from the 'Old Guard'!

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd June 2008, 08:05 PM

yeah...look at Mdice...went from 6 to 1 in the overall chart all thanks to Katy Perry's win! getting to the final is so crucial now, as if you don't, no points will be added to your totals...so there's extra pressure to send brilliant songs now!

Posted by: PhillyWilly 24th June 2008, 08:40 AM

i'm 6th

we seem to have a big 8.

Posted by: Sabrewulf238 24th June 2008, 10:47 AM

and I'll be there with you too.

Let's see......56 + 64 = 120

Some way to go yet but all you need is the top 5 to have an absolute Disaster in the song selection and newbies are going to start overtaking them.

Posted by: Trashlexis 24th June 2008, 10:49 AM

Kopečka will be damned if they ever make a disaster in the song selection!

Posted by: PhillyWilly 24th June 2008, 10:58 AM

i've made 3 disasters and im just behind top 5

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 24th June 2008, 11:06 AM

I think that, in addition to the big 5, we should have some kind of average points thing for all countries who have been in three or more contests. I don't know if that would make any difference, but it might give the newer countries a chance of appearing in the top few countries at some point. Right now you'd probably have to have been in at least 6 or 7 contests to make the list.

Posted by: Trashlexis 24th June 2008, 11:15 AM

Overall average points sounds like a good idea! I think Mdice would still breeze that with an average of 85 points!

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 24th June 2008, 11:19 AM

Yeah, I think most of the big 5 would be there still, but it wouldn't be pretty much impossible for newer countries to enter it if they have a good few contests.

Posted by: Trashlexis 24th June 2008, 11:25 AM

I think you would have to have three contests though - otherwise MKL would be leading immediately!

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 24th June 2008, 11:36 AM

Yeah, that's what I said when I first suggested it. I think 1 is too few and so is 2 really because my avaerage would be 70 something.

Posted by: Trashlexis 24th June 2008, 11:43 AM

Oh yes, silly me

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 01:42 PM

but you could easily pick a song that could finish something like 18th, but with 70 points

the votes are so well spread in this contest that even a load of good songs finish down in the results table despite getting a respectable amount of points!

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 01:46 PM

I don't think that would work that well, as for Love Song which won for me in BJSC4 scored less points than Maria & Mira who came third for me! the contests with hardly any participants would heavily pull down the averages for some countries, especially those who were in the earlier contests and then pulled out. I do wonder if people will stop voting for 'the big 5' at some point to try and get their own country higher in the overall stats

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 24th June 2008, 02:11 PM

Hmm. What about working out the average votes in each contest, adding them up and doing an average? E.g. 100 Points from 25 voters makes an average of 4 points then you could get 70 points from 35 voting countries, an average of 2 points. Your average over those two contests would be 3 points.

I guess the problem with that way is that the effort going into working out the stats might be more than it's worth.

Posted by: Peter30 24th June 2008, 02:18 PM

Also, I would dispute whether Mdice's first win is really worthy of "Best Debut." Somebody had to win that year, as it was the first Contest, and I think Quotosibb would be more deserving of that title outright.

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 02:18 PM

yeah, I can't really be bothered to do it

bear in mind though, that like Kylienips did in BJSC7, some of the 'big 5' are inevitably going to crash out in the semis at some point and then they won't have any points added to their final totals. when that happens, it will give a chance for other countries to catch up. everyone has to keep sending amazing songs to ensure that they never miss the final and keep on racking up points

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 02:21 PM

well, Mdice were just as worthy of that title as Quotosibb...yes somebody HAD to win BJSC1 and Mdice beat off a lot of stiff competition. They DID have the best debut to the contest, just like Switzerland had the best debut to the Eurovision in 1956!

Posted by: Peter30 24th June 2008, 02:46 PM

Well I'm not too happy about the Switzerland statistic either

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 02:52 PM

but it is a 'song' contest after all and Quotosibb had the best 'song' in BJSC6 just as Mdice did in BJSC1, and it was both their first appearance with the best song of the lot...it's not like it's a vote for your favourite country contest like Eurovision ...yeah, you could say they have the best debut by default but if the Official Eurovision Song Contest book can do it, then so can I

Posted by: Adi_Gallia 24th June 2008, 02:59 PM

I don't mind sharing the title with Mdice. They did win in their debut contest, I know it was everyone's debut at the time, but they still won their first contest.

Posted by: Peter30 24th June 2008, 03:29 PM

If anybody is interested I've got a new stat.....it's the top ten most successful Buzzjack songs! It's based on percentage of possible points it could have scored from other countries (and yes, I've allowed for countries who didn't vote!)

So it takes into account that more points were available in certain contests....so here is the definitive list of the most popular songs in the last 7 competitions!

1. FSR Rontiva - Sara Bareilles - Love Song - 43% (BJSC4)
2. Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed a Girl - 42.3% (BJSC7)
3. Eledan - t.A.T.u - Gomenasai - 41.3% (BJSC5)
4. Utopia - Pipettes - Pull Shapes - 40.8% (BJSC4)
5. Kopečka - Stefy - Chelsea - 38.2% (BJSC4)
6. Bhangra - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice - 37.8% (BJSC3)
7. Mdiče – Britney Spears – And Then We Kiss - 37.7% (BJSC1)
8. Frahliso - Serebro - What's Your Problem? - 37.3% (BJSC4)
9. Quotosibb - Beverley Knight - Black Butta - 36.6% (BJSC6)
10. Romeria - Europe - The Final Countdown - 35.8% (BJSC3)

Posted by: Trashlexis 24th June 2008, 03:34 PM

Katy Perry did VERY well BJSC IV has dominated that list!

Posted by: Pavel 24th June 2008, 03:50 PM

No BJSC2 and the only one from 5th

Posted by: Pavel 24th June 2008, 03:53 PM

it's because there was only 20 entries

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 05:06 PM

exactly my point

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 05:07 PM

interesting! I am of course pleased to have sent the most successful song

Posted by: gooddelta 24th June 2008, 05:10 PM

by the way, I've posted it on the front page with the rest of the stats Peter!

I'll be expecting you to update it for me after each contest

Posted by: Peter30 24th June 2008, 05:55 PM

Certainly!

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2008, 02:08 PM

just added another stat:

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 02:19 PM

If only I'd saved Jordin Sparks - Freeze for now! Vanessa would've only just broken my run by finishing 11th...I'm still baffled at how I flopped so badly with Jordin the second time around!

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2008, 02:28 PM

another new stat

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2008, 02:31 PM

Kopecka would appear more in this stats list if you'd voted in BJSC5

yeah, Jordin would do much better now, you were ahead of yourself! then again, Sara did alright for me in BJSC4 you can just never tell what will do well and what won't. I know Freeze is a 'fan favourite' but it's not one of my personal favourites...I actually prefer some of the mid-tempo tracks/ballads in the middle of the album

Vanessa should have come 10th in place of that dire J.Lo song I'm sure I must have given Vanessa points, I love that song

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2008, 02:35 PM

just checked, I gave Vanessa 10 points...had I given her the 12 you would have been top ten

but Delta got my 12

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 02:40 PM

You have no idea how annoying not being able to vote in the 5th contest was

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2008, 02:44 PM

poor Helena had I done your old-skool deduction of 75% she would be languishing at the bottom of the leaderboard at least you still finished top ten despite not voting

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 02:48 PM

The old-skool deduction of 75% was just taken straight from the ESCToday forums at the beginning when we had no idea of what to do I'm surprised at how odd some of their rules are...

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 03:04 PM

Haha, I've just looked at the NSC Wiki, SO MANY of their songs have been used over here as well!

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2008, 03:04 PM

that's so ridiculous, I always thought that was far too much what other ridiculous rules do they have???

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 03:16 PM

Most of them are pretty similar, but if you don't vote you get kicked off the next edition...some of the entries are ridiculously cheap as well! Check out their wiki - http://nsc.wikia.com. Speaking of which, I've just entered a request for a BJSC wiki!

But yes, some of the entries have been REALLY cheap:

NSC 2 Escotia Unwritten Natasha Bedingfield 108 points
NSC 8 Astoria Behind These Hazel Eyes Kelly Clarkson 157 points (Haha, won't Mart!n be happy to hear that one? )
NSC 9 Alinta My Immortal Evanescence 151 points
NSC 11 Spila Left Outside Alone Anastacia 145 points (I would actually have a fit if someone entered this here!)
NSC 13 Gabriel Wake Up Call Maroon 5 160 points
NSC 17 Eurora What Hurts The Most Cascada 154 points

Posted by: Pavel 25th June 2008, 03:39 PM

All are such cheap entries Except Evanescence <333

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 03:49 PM

There are some that are even worse! The following songs have all been entered as well:

Avril Lavigne Girlfriend
Spice Girls Viva Forever
Kelly Clarkson Breakaway
Enrique Iglesias Do You Know (Ping Pong Song)
Rihanna Umbrella
Maroon 5 This Love
Nelly Furtado Say It Right
Cascada Everytime We Touch
Girls Aloud Something Kinda Ooh
Avril Lavigne When You're Gone
Christina Aguilera Candyman
Green Day Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
Britney Spears Toxic (Oh Boyan, how could you? )
Eiffel 65 Blue (Da Ba Dee)
Rihanna Unfaithful
Fergie Big Girls Don't Cry
Rihanna Don't Stop the Music
Britney Spears Gimme More
Sugababes About You Now
Timbaland & One Republic Apologize

Spila has been responsible for some of the cheapest entries - Umbrella, Say It Right, Apologize, and when they participated here they sent No One by Alicia Keys in the first contest There are some other really awful ones, the list is at http://nsc.wikia.com/wiki/All_NSC_entries

Posted by: Pavel 25th June 2008, 04:12 PM

oh my btw what is the site where this contest takes place?

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 04:15 PM

ESCToday forums

Posted by: Sabrewulf238 25th June 2008, 06:23 PM

But you need to think aswell that the nation song contest has been going on for longer and has more participants which leaves more room for those kind of Entrys.

Just wait until the buzzjack song contest has passed 20 editions and we'll have our own list of monstrosities

Posted by: gooddelta 25th June 2008, 06:49 PM

you will never get a cheap entry from FSR Rontvia

that's an official guarantee

although Love Song would look very cheap if I had sent it to BJSC8 instead of BJSC4

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th June 2008, 09:08 PM

We haven't really had any real monstrosities since the first couple of contests...excusing Mart!n's little monstrosity with Kelly that he will *hopefully* rectify

Posted by: Medicated Soap 26th June 2008, 01:45 AM

You've beaten me by one contest! *shakes fist*

Posted by: gooddelta 26th June 2008, 06:39 AM

you need to start your run again! that Japanese song was a huge flop for you wasn't it

catering for the wrong audience there

Posted by: Medicated Soap 26th June 2008, 06:47 AM

Yeah. Though it was in English. ;_; I don' think people gave it much of a chance. But Imogen Heap would have broken the streak anyway. Hopefully Shakira/The Veronicas/Isabel Guzman will get me back on track after this.

Posted by: gooddelta 26th June 2008, 09:09 AM

I think Shakira's your safest bet for finishing in the top ten again, but the other two are stronger songs in my opinion...Hide & Seek is a love/hate track...personally I adore it, but there are some people who don't really 'get it'

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd July 2008, 08:28 PM

updated and we have a new look to 'the big 5' goodbye to Bhangra, hello to Ashton and US Russiatron are our new most successful country!

Posted by: David 22nd July 2008, 08:30 PM

How far off the pace am I now?

Posted by: ThaGazBoi 22nd July 2008, 08:30 PM

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd July 2008, 08:31 PM

6th I think...

Posted by: David 22nd July 2008, 08:32 PM

Oh good. We'll be back with a bhang next time anyway. I really should stop using that pun...

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd July 2008, 08:33 PM

yeah, another good entry and you'll go back to the top five

I wonder if Mdice will be rejoining us or is Ben still at summer camp for a while?

Posted by: PhillyWilly 22nd July 2008, 08:38 PM

I think we have our permanent Big 5

yay at making the big 5

Posted by: Boyan 22nd July 2008, 08:40 PM

in which place is Bokia now on the total points stats chart ???

Posted by: BJBB Aaron 22nd July 2008, 08:40 PM

Another British winner.

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd July 2008, 08:43 PM

10th, behind the big 5, Bhangra, Kylienips, Simondly and Angelic Land

Posted by: alexxx23 22nd July 2008, 08:46 PM

Sangria has the most consecutive top five finishes (2) but never was in top 3 correct it please

Posted by: davidobowie! 22nd July 2008, 09:37 PM

How are Faztickle doing?

Posted by: Simon. 22nd July 2008, 10:35 PM

Is Simondly still the least successful

Posted by: Peter30 23rd July 2008, 12:44 AM

I would post an update for the top ten most successful songs pointswise relative to the number of countries etc etc.

But sadly none of this month's entries have made a dent on the top ten, with Lily Allen recieving just 32.1% of the possible score, well below the 35.8% scored by Europe for Romera from BJSC3, currently in 10th place.

Posted by: Sabrewulf238 23rd July 2008, 10:39 AM

I think Dalisska has a total of........178 points right now.

A good bit behind, Dalisska needs to break the 100 points barrier for the next contest!

Posted by: Trashlexis 23rd July 2008, 11:12 AM

2nd place bebeh

Posted by: Peter30 25th July 2008, 04:09 PM

Another statistic: The top ten most successful countries based on....position or whatever you wanna say it's based on.

Basically each country gets 12 points for finishing 1st, 10 for finishing 2nd, 8 for finishing 3rd down to 1 point for finishing in 10th place. It takes into account that there have been different amounts of points given out in each contest, so evens that out, but still rewards countries who have been in the competition for longer.

1) Mdice
2) FSR Rontvia
3) Bhangra
4) Kylienips
5) Ashton
6) US Russiatron
7) Kopecka
8) Bokia
9) Angelic Land
10) Cascadia

Posted by: gooddelta 25th July 2008, 07:08 PM

2nd

Posted by: David 25th July 2008, 07:54 PM

You haven't won though yet. Bebeh.

Posted by: PhillyWilly 25th July 2008, 08:26 PM

ooh considering the amount of times i have flopped 5th is pretty decent.

Posted by: ThaGazBoi 26th July 2008, 02:09 AM

I'm number one in the Big Five and I haven't won a contest yet.

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 09:40 AM

I'm second and I haven't either

Am I correct in thinking neither of us has ever placed higher than third?

Posted by: gooddelta 26th July 2008, 10:22 AM

this is correct,

always the bridesmaids but never the bride

like Sash! and S Club Juniors

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 10:23 AM

We'll win eventually

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 10:45 AM

Give it time At least I've never had a non-qualifier And by Rich's standard I've technically had just the one flop too

Posted by: gooddelta 26th July 2008, 11:48 AM

indeed, I don't count Little Boots as a flop as it came in the top half of the scoreboard

unlike Thermostatic

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 11:59 AM

I'm aiming for a maximum of two flops for every ten contests

Posted by: gooddelta 26th July 2008, 12:00 PM

that's a good aim, I've had 3 out of 8, which isn't great but when I make the top ten I do it in style

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 12:03 PM

I will scream if Mine All Mine and Smack Me don't make it into the semis of Congratulations

Posted by: gooddelta 26th July 2008, 12:19 PM

I would expect Mine All Mine to, but I don't think on the whole people remember Smack Me as fondly...

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 01:59 PM

Hey, it managed to come fifth

Yeah, you're right, Opium would be the shoo-in from that contest

Posted by: gooddelta 26th July 2008, 02:02 PM

it came joint 4th, but Kylienips came 4th with whatever massive UK hit they'd managed to get people to give casual points to but apparently got more 12's..., although I thought we counted 'most countries voted for' as opposed to 'most 12's'

so yeah 5th for Untouched I suppose

I can't believe Opium only came 9th I gave it my 12 you did an Anna Vissi there!

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 02:07 PM

We counted most countries voted for from the 7th contest, so one too late for you I can't believe Opium wasn't closer to the top 5 either, it was immense!

Posted by: gooddelta 26th July 2008, 02:09 PM

damn, oh well...I don't even know if I would have been 4th, I can't be bothered to go back and look how many countries voted for Untouched and how many for Jem...

but seeing as nobody would have heard of Untouched and everyone's heard of Jem, Evanescence, Lily Allen and Beverley Knight, I felt very proud of that 5th place

Posted by: Trashlexis 26th July 2008, 02:14 PM

I should order the most deserving winners of each contest Linda Kiraly FTW for BJSCVII

Posted by: gooddelta 26th July 2008, 02:23 PM

wouldn't your most deserving winners just be the country you gave your 12 points too

I thought Linda Kraly was very good, far better than Tata Young which I just found dated sounding, and didn't quite get the hype over that one

Marie Picasso has renewed my faith in Sangria

Posted by: ThaGazBoi 26th July 2008, 04:41 PM

My biggest flop was Liberty X.

The bast*rds.

Posted by: David 26th July 2008, 05:44 PM

My biggest flops have been Enya, the Revelations and my second Mike Oldfield... oh and Kate Bush. But I've had the Dixie Chicks, Mike Oldfield (again), Dima Bilan and Fragma to make up for their lousy efforts.

Posted by: Mart!n 26th July 2008, 05:51 PM

My biggest flop was Portishead, it flop in the semis.

Posted by: Trashlexis 28th July 2008, 09:33 AM

Not necessarily I only gave one point (something I still regret now) to Linda Kiraly No, the most deserving IMO would be the one that succeeded against all odds - so, for example, Lisa Miskovsky in the second contest, Moonlight Shadow or Se Lazam Sebe in the first etc. etc.

Posted by: Medicated Soap 11th August 2008, 10:55 PM

Shouldn't Mdice be in most top three finishes? I have two as well.

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 09:56 AM

Correction - you have two wins I'm not sure if Rich considers that a justified entry

Posted by: IKissedRihanna 12th August 2008, 10:06 AM

Talking about flops - Eledan is a HUGE FLOP in the contest. I still can't believe Sergey Lazarev came so low! From 5 contests I particiapted in I flopped 3 times This time is gonna be the 4th flop

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 10:13 AM

Eledan have only really had one success Hometown Glory should've totally gone top 10 though.

Posted by: RihannaKissedMe 12th August 2008, 10:16 AM

Kopečka FTW

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 10:18 AM

Oh god YES PLEASE God knows it's overdue by now

Posted by: IKissedABoy 12th August 2008, 10:35 AM

btw Little Miss Obsessive should have been entered ages ago imo

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 10:37 AM

Yes, it should, but it's not getting massive anytime soon tbh so why not

Posted by: Sabrewulf238 12th August 2008, 11:16 AM

Maybe some things are just not meant to be?

(I'm sure you'll win eventually though .....every country has the chance to win if they pick that special song)

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 01:03 PM

you should have sent Disturbia Trash...

that would have sealed your win

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 01:04 PM

edited

Posted by: Boyan 12th August 2008, 01:11 PM

hmmm IMHO, Kopecka seems that just TRYES TOOOOO HARD to win this
it WILL happen eventually but when you're not expecting it at all

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 01:14 PM

Trashlexis won't like that comment Boyan

I don't think it will be too long for Kopecka to win...they need to send a cheap song to do it though

Posted by: Boyan 12th August 2008, 02:18 PM

lol I hope he won't take it as an ofense
I'm not saying that he won't win with Ashlee (you never know actually) but you just (IMHO) have to send a song you really LIKE and care about..and not just the song that "it can do well or win"
btw, I loved his last BJSC8 entry (which was a total unknown song to me ) so it got my 12 points

and Rich not only "cheap" songs can win or have won here

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 02:21 PM

I always send songs that I love, the only time I sent a song which was purely to see if it would do well was Andreas Johnson's Glorious in BJSC3...

and it came 8th which was a good result, especially for a male singer!

Posted by: IKissedABoy 12th August 2008, 02:33 PM

Like it happened with Katy Perry

As for me I would never send I Kissed A Girl to this contest if i had a chance to do that as I ask my special 'feeling' everytime i choose songs for the contest

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 02:43 PM

No no no. I would NEVER stoop so low as to pick something so already obviously popular


I aim for top 10 first, then a winner second most of the time That might explain my good fortune thus far, but I've only thought I could win it twice - first time with Jordin Sparks - Freeze, and the second time with Serebro - Opium. Look what happened both times

Posted by: Ryan 12th August 2008, 02:43 PM

Trash will be like Janet Jackson, never a number 1

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 02:46 PM

I do love and care about Ashlee, it's just been my #1 for two weeks! And I have loved ALL of my entries, I never enter stuff just because it'll do well - case in point, another reason I wouldn't enter Disturbia is because I like it, but I don't like it enough

And thank you, one of Meddle's few big supporters

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 02:47 PM

And you'll be like Clea, never a top 10

Posted by: Boyan 12th August 2008, 02:47 PM

I know and I loved both songs
that's why I enter in this with loooow expectations

Posted by: Ryan 12th August 2008, 02:49 PM

LOL i knew that was coming even before you said it

Clea did rather good in one of these contests didnt it?

Maybe its time to enter "Download It"

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 02:51 PM

I'm just waiting for a killer track, something that will obviously do really well Opium's the only one of those I've found so far, and I think that was a victim of its own hype...

Posted by: And I Liked It 12th August 2008, 02:55 PM

You don't know how I am waiting for this 'killer' track

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 02:55 PM

Yes, they did

And go for it

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 03:10 PM

to be fair, I thought Opium would win, but now we know that a lot of people don't vote for foreign language songs, we know why Opium flopped

and it rules out my Slovenian song...I want to enter that into a foreign language spin off contest then

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 03:11 PM

at least you've already won before, unlike Kopecka

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 03:12 PM

I don't think anything's ever a victim of its own hype

Katy Perry and Lily Allen still won despite tons of pre-contest hype

I think the language barrier killed of Serebro

Posted by: Aaron™ 12th August 2008, 03:14 PM

I want 'Migrate' to win. But Mariah is very love/hate on Buzzjack and the addition of T-Pain could hurt her even more. (despite me finding this the most listenable song with T-Pain on it)

Posted by: Boyan 12th August 2008, 03:21 PM

sorry but I have to say that NOT VOTING for a foriegn language song is just plain ignorant

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 03:24 PM

some of my favourite songs ever made have been foreign language songs...

La Tortura

Posted by: And I Liked It 12th August 2008, 03:28 PM

Migrate is my favourite song on 'E=MC2' without or with T-Pain I want it to win too tbh

Posted by: And I Liked It 12th August 2008, 03:28 PM

OMG La Tortura is incredible. Totally agree

Posted by: Aaron™ 12th August 2008, 03:31 PM

Sorry Boyan. I don't exactly go "That song is in x language, I'm not even going to listen to it" when people enter them though. I listen to every song in full at least once, even if I hate it. It's just that foreign songs don't usually get close to getting points from me because of the barrier. I know this isn't a very nice attitude to have towards music, but I just do.

Posted by: Boyan 12th August 2008, 03:31 PM

I LOVE foriegn language songs! and I don't buy that I can't listen to a song if I don't understand it type of sh!t!
sorry but this is music, and it's not like you can't understand it...if the lyrics are the most improtatant thing to like some songs you can always find a way to see what it's all about (translation maybe )
I know I always search for the romanized lyrics + english traslation of the j-pop music i'm listening to
or for spanish songs for ex. I understand some of the lyrucs partly but that still hasn't stoped me from listenig and adoring latin/spanish music
plus at the end this is an ESC spinoff contest...and isn't ESC (or at least it was) all about hearing some music in different languages

Posted by: Sabrewulf238 12th August 2008, 03:48 PM

But you've found a Killer Track before.

I'm not sure what a Killer Track looks like.....if I get one It'll probably be by absolute chance.

As for different Language music it doesn't really bother me what language it is in, I just listen to the beat of it really and sometimes I can guess what they mean or just imagine myself what they're singing about.

Posted by: Trashlexis 12th August 2008, 04:39 PM

It's a shame that Opium suffered because it was in the Russian language...I wonder if I could enter the English version when it comes out?

Posted by: Medicated Soap 12th August 2008, 04:41 PM

I sitll think I should be in most top three finishes. I was before I left for art camp.

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 05:24 PM

you are now I changed it

Posted by: gooddelta 12th August 2008, 05:24 PM

is there no rule against this?

Posted by: And I Liked It 12th August 2008, 05:26 PM

TBH I didn't want to choose Tatu among those 6 songs i had in my NF, I wanted Sixpence Non The Richer as my representative at first

Posted by: Aaron™ 12th August 2008, 05:29 PM

I think there probably is a rule against it. It's essentially the same song after all, just in another language.

Posted by: StopChanginNames 12th August 2008, 05:30 PM

I don't think they will release the english version after all

Posted by: Boyan 12th August 2008, 05:34 PM

well it's still the same song no matter in which language is
so it will be like enetering it for the 2nd time
and there's a rule against it

Posted by: Medicated Soap 12th August 2008, 05:36 PM

Oooh yay. ;D ty.

Posted by: Trashlexis 13th August 2008, 12:06 PM

No, but I wouldn't anyway

Posted by: ThaGazBoi 13th August 2008, 01:56 PM

USR are going to drop out of the top 5

Posted by: gooddelta 13th August 2008, 02:24 PM

you should have sent Britney

Posted by: Identity Crisis 13th August 2008, 04:01 PM

I should have sent Britney to BJSC8

Posted by: David 13th August 2008, 06:02 PM

Yes there is, the same song can't be entered twice because I couldn't enter 'Hurt' by Johnny Cash as that appalling Nine Inch Nails original had already been entered. @D

Posted by: Trashlexis 14th August 2008, 11:28 AM

I know, but I'm not sure whether that rule covers foreign language versions of the same song though As I've said though, I wouldn't anyway, it would be the epitome of cheapness

Posted by: gooddelta 19th August 2008, 08:45 PM

updated! FSR Rontvia is now the new No.1 country overall

Posted by: ThaGazBoi 19th August 2008, 09:21 PM

USR have dropped off.

They'll be back with a vengence.

Posted by: Simon. 19th August 2008, 09:25 PM

Is this still true

Posted by: ThaGazBoi 19th August 2008, 09:26 PM

I would guess so, There's only four of you that have appeared in all 9 contest finals.

Posted by: brunoboi 19th August 2008, 09:26 PM

I think we take your record for most contests before our first win though

Posted by: thisispop 19th August 2008, 09:28 PM

An alternative way of calculating based on Top 10 finishes (12 Pts = 1st, 10 Pts = 2nd, 8 Pts = 3rd, 7 Pts = 4th........ to 1 Pt = 10th):

Top 10 Countries (after BJSC9):

1st FSR Rontvia 39
2nd Mdice 36
3rd Bhangra 35
4th Ashton/Fotherington Islands 28
5th Kopecka 27 (6 Top 10 finishes)
6th Kylienips 27 (4 Top 10 Finishes)
7th United States Of Ibiza/Russiatron 25
8th Bokia 23
9th Nonsuch 22
10th Angelic Land 21

Posted by: Simon. 19th August 2008, 09:39 PM

Ohhhh yeh, fair enough

Posted by: Boyan 19th August 2008, 09:40 PM

Top 10

Posted by: f1mad 20th August 2008, 10:14 AM

ooh, i move up a place, thanks USR!

Posted by: David 20th August 2008, 10:51 AM

Where are Bhangra now? I thought we might've got back into the top five after getting our highest ever points total this time.

Posted by: gooddelta 20th August 2008, 12:59 PM

6th, only 6 points shy of Simondly's total...you were close to returning to the top 5! USR plummeted 1-7 after Tarkan's tragic showing...

Posted by: gooddelta 20th August 2008, 01:00 PM

yes, because only three other countries have appeared in all nine finals, and they've all done better than you overall

Posted by: gooddelta 20th August 2008, 01:01 PM

nope, because you've only been in two finals before this one...

the stats don't count semi-finalists

Posted by: gooddelta 20th August 2008, 01:02 PM

still No.1

and must Bhangra always reach the top 5 every time I do

I've added this to the main page, with credits for Rich and Peter for help with a couple of the statistics!

incidentally, a question for Peter. Is there any change to the 'most successful songs' table?

Posted by: Peter30 20th August 2008, 01:18 PM

You read my mind! Yes there is one change:

1) FSR Rontiva - Sara Bareilles - Love Song - 43% (BJSC4)
2) Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed a Girl - 42.3% (BJSC7)
3) Eledan - t.A.T.u - Gomenasai - 41.3% (BJSC5)
4) Utopia - Pipettes - Pull Shapes - 40.8% (BJSC4)
5) Kingdom of Shadow – Margaret Berger – Will You Remember Me Tomorrow – 39.9% (BJSC9)
6) Kopečka - Stefy - Chelsea - 38.2% (BJSC4)
7) Bhangra - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice - 37.8% (BJSC3)
8) Mdiče – Britney Spears – And Then We Kiss - 37.7% (BJSC1)
9) Frahliso - Serebro - What's Your Problem? - 37.3% (BJSC4)
10) Quotosibb - Beverley Knight - Black Butta - 36.6% (BJSC6)

Posted by: Peter30 20th August 2008, 01:22 PM

How come it gets added to the front page when TIP does it?

Posted by: gooddelta 20th August 2008, 01:44 PM

sorry Peter, I forgot to add it before when you did it

thanks for updating the other one

Posted by: nickthenoodle 22nd August 2008, 02:45 PM

I hold the record for most consecutive dead last place finishes in a particular semi final with 2

Least successful country to enter three contests ?

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd August 2008, 02:53 PM

only the finals count Nick you'll have to finish last in the final with less than 6 points to take the record

Posted by: sugabloke 22nd August 2008, 03:09 PM

what about Allecian for most consecutive bottom 3 finishes in the final?

Posted by: Sabrewulf238 22nd August 2008, 05:26 PM

I think it should.....I mean they still took part even if they didn't get to the final? Did Dustin the Turkey never take part in eurovision just because he didn't qualify from the semis?

Think about this....what if a country has taken part in 6-8 contests.....but has never qualified(unlikly but possible) even though they have a history with the contest they won't be recognised anywhere on the country participation list. I think all countries that have ever participated (final or semi) should be in that list.

It seems a little weird to me that it wouldn't count semi-finalists. I know that it shouldn't include semi points or anything but I don't see why semi-finalists can't be included in other stats that have nothing to do with points. (or maybe have seperate stats for semi-finalists)

Posted by: Trashlexis 22nd August 2008, 05:33 PM

Semi-finalists ARE included in the participation list are they not?

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd August 2008, 05:56 PM

ok, I will update the first post with a list of the semi-finalists who never made it to the final...if other people want to work out new stats, like most consecutive bottom 3 finishes, or other semi-final stats, please do and post them in this thread.

I will then edit them into the first post and give you a credit in the first post like I have with Peter30 and thisispop who worked out a couple of things

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd August 2008, 06:15 PM

new stat then hope I haven't missed any off...these countries points don't go towards anything...only points gathered in the final go towards total scores, which is why it gives people more of an incentive to qualify!

Posted by: brunoboi 22nd August 2008, 06:18 PM

no I've been in three

BJSC 5 - The Tears - 18th in the final
BJSC 6 - Chicane ft Tom Jones - 11th in the final
BJSC 8 - Mutya Buena - 23rd? (very low down) in the final

I only failed to qualify the once iirc

Cheers for doing all the stats we really appreciate the effort!

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd August 2008, 06:24 PM

yes you're right, sorry...

first post edited, we share the record now

I'm glad people appreciate it, it takes me a good hour or more to work everything out after each contest...as I have to add everyone's points onto their current total to work out the overall top 5 and other points related stats

Posted by: Peter30 23rd September 2008, 08:10 PM

While a 3rd win is no mean feat, Brandy's victory was by no means an overwhelming one, and Mdice's weakest yet, gaining just 35.8% of the possible points on offer.

That means that there is no change to the top ten most successful songs after BJSC X.

Posted by: Aaron™ 23rd September 2008, 08:28 PM

Woo - it's one of my favourite winners, but it keeps me in the top 10 for another month.

Posted by: Peter30 23rd September 2008, 08:30 PM

It still was a more successful victory that Bokia in BJSC2 and Nonsuch in BJSC8 though.

Posted by: Aaron™ 23rd September 2008, 08:38 PM

True, stupid BJSC4 for being so small and messing up the percentages a bit.

Posted by: Peter30 23rd September 2008, 08:39 PM

Not nescessarily...surely it is evened out by the fact there were less points available?

Posted by: f1mad 23rd September 2008, 08:42 PM

yeah it will be

Posted by: Aaron™ 23rd September 2008, 08:46 PM

Actually I think I've forgotten what exactly that statistic shows! I thought it was what percentage of people gave them points - but I think that's wrong isn't it? If it were that, the less people in the final there are the more likely they are to get points. In BJSC IV you had to give points to more countries than you didn't give points to.

Posted by: Peter30 23rd September 2008, 08:55 PM

It's percentage of total points available. For example in a contest with 22 countries, there are 252 points available (21x12, since you can't vote for yourself).

Seems like a pretty fair way of working out the most successful songs.

As it turns out, the top 2 in this have also gone on to become the two biggest hits from the contest

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd September 2008, 08:55 PM

stats thread updated, a couple I don't have the figures for, so could Peter and/or Rich do the kind honour of updating

Mdice new No.1 country, Kopecka non-mover at No.2, FSR Rontvia down to No.3...

I have done away with the least successful country stat as the only country to have appeared in all 10 countries now is Kopecka...

Posted by: f1mad 23rd September 2008, 09:07 PM

oof i can't no qualify next time, i'm barely hanging onto the top5

Posted by: Aaron™ 23rd September 2008, 09:21 PM

Oh ok, well I'm sure there's some explanation as to why it works out being biased but I'm not mathematically gifted enough to think of it right now. I'm sure it's not just a coincidence that the only non-winners in the top 10 are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th places countries from the smallest contest so far.

I think it's something to do with the number of countries we give points to always being 10 while the countries we don't give points to has varied. In BJSC IV you had to give points to 10/19 other entries, so that's just over a 50% chance of receiving at least 1 point whereas in the biggest final of 29 you had to give points to 10/28 of the other countries so that's about 35% chance of getting at least 1 point.

I'm probably over-thinking this and that's wrong too but I'm sure there is an explanation, I'm just not smart enough to find it.

Posted by: RabbitFurCoat 24th September 2008, 03:02 PM

Is 'Pull Shapes' really the 4th most successful song?! I missed this!

Posted by: Pavel 24th September 2008, 03:08 PM

I missed the fact that Gomenasai is 3rd I always thought it's 4th here!

Posted by: gooddelta 24th September 2008, 03:11 PM

and it could have been the most successful if it wasn't for those pesky Rontvians

Posted by: Trashlexis 24th September 2008, 04:38 PM

Sorted out a couple of spelling errors and added a hosts stat

Posted by: nickthenoodle 20th October 2008, 08:05 PM

I'm still waiting for the most consecutive DNQ country to be added

Unless I actually don't hold that record and someone has five

Posted by: Peter30 20th October 2008, 10:36 PM

I think you definitely hold that record as the current qualification system has only been around for 5 contests, and I don't think there is anybody who has failed to qualify in all of them!

Posted by: Peter30 26th October 2008, 10:44 PM

No change to the top ten songs this month

Posted by: gooddelta 27th October 2008, 08:00 AM

good stuff, Love Song still on top

Posted by: Pavel 27th October 2008, 08:18 AM

Rich, Kopecka have less than Mdice

Posted by: gooddelta 27th October 2008, 08:44 AM

fully updated now, not much change in 'the Big 5' with Mdice well ahead of Kopecka now after Janelle's flop...FSR Rontvia moving back to touching distance of Kopecka...Ashton up to 4th, Simondly replace Bhangra...

Nonsuch, Quotosibb and Eledan all between 595 and 600 points total scored in the final now another couple of top fives for any of these countries and they will almost certainly join 'the big 5', indeed Nonsuch have certainly been one of the dominating presence's in the 'Post-Untouched BJSC'

Posted by: Pavel 27th October 2008, 08:54 AM

You forgot Espen in the countries list

Posted by: Pavel 27th October 2008, 08:56 AM

Yeah it looks like Eledan has been the least successful nation out of the old guard as we only scored 598 points in 8 contests

Posted by: Trashlexis 27th October 2008, 10:33 AM

I'd say Nonsuch have been the most successful post-Untouched actually

Posted by: ThaGazBoi 27th October 2008, 11:44 AM

Where is USR? We properly suffered alot from not qualifying twice.

Posted by: gooddelta 27th October 2008, 11:51 AM

not far off the top 5 pointswise...you need an amazing entry and you'll be right back up there!

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd November 2008, 10:28 PM

Best Of and Rejects stats added, it's a Kingdom Of Shadow affair!

Posted by: f1mad 23rd November 2008, 10:34 PM

You can amend the hosts line

I did it all from the capital in the end

Posted by: brunoboi 23rd November 2008, 11:00 PM

*Biggest grin ever*

Posted by: f1mad 24th November 2008, 02:54 PM

Ashton came top5 in BJSCV (4th with HITH) and then came Runner up in BJSCVI (IDK)

Posted by: Aaron™ 25th November 2008, 12:50 AM

I have to say, that statistic makes me feel ambitious. My streak hasn't been broken, yet, if I can make it into the top 5 this time the record would be all mine.

It's just not going to happen though, I can't find a song that I think has the strength to do it.

Posted by: gooddelta 14th December 2008, 10:12 PM

I've updated some of these, the rest will have to wait until I have time...

Kopecka have comprehensibly beaten most appearances before a win record from Rontvia and KOS...they appeared 11 times in the final before a win!

and of course the new highest score to date in BJSC

Posted by: Trashlexmas 14th December 2008, 10:14 PM

I took my time, but when I won I did it in style

Posted by: The Fear 14th December 2008, 10:15 PM

Kopecka's little most finals record will be destroyed when Ashton finally finds a good song.

Posted by: gooddelta 14th December 2008, 10:18 PM

Ashton I believe will be promoted to most successful country not to have won, when I've worked out all of the points

Posted by: The Fear 14th December 2008, 10:20 PM

indeed i shall.

50point gap over simondly hasn't shrunk too much, only by 20something points.

Posted by: Pavel 14th December 2008, 10:23 PM

During the voting if you haven't won I would have given you more than just 4 LaRoux is the best entry you've ever sent (except Camille of course )

Posted by: Trashlexmas 14th December 2008, 10:27 PM

I thought that 4 was a tad fishy

Posted by: Pavel 14th December 2008, 10:28 PM

It was an amazingly tough contest, especially if you're a host lol

Posted by: Xmas TIP 15th December 2008, 07:04 PM

After BJSC XII:

Top 20 Countries based on Top 10 finishes (12 Pts = 1st, 10 Pts = 2nd, 8 Pts = 3rd, 7 Pts = 4th........ to 1 Pt = 10th) (Ties split on ESC best result count back system):

1st 1st Mdice 62
2nd 2nd FSR Rontvia 47
3rd 6th Kopecka 42
4th 3rd Bhangra 35
5th 4th Nonsuch 32
6th 5th Ashton/Fotherington Islands 31
7th 7th Kylienips 31
8th 12th Angelicland 28
9th 8th Quotosibb 25
10th 9th United States Of Ibiza/Russiatron 25
11th 10th Eledan 24
12th 11th Bokia 23
13th Ne Botanikka 19
14th Ne Kingdom Of Shadow 18
15th 13th United States Of Jack 18
16th 14th Simondly 16
17th 15th Cascadia 16
18th 16th Utopia 16
19th 17th MKL 16
20th 18th Sangria 14

Posted by: gooddelta 15th December 2008, 07:13 PM

thanks for that Rich, will edit it in

Posted by: gooddelta 15th December 2008, 07:33 PM

everything's updated we just need Peter to tell us if any of this contest's songs were in the ten biggest, percentage wise...I would imagine La Roux must have been

the top 5 remain unchanged although Ashton and Simondly have caught up with FSR Rontvia, Kopecka and Mdice will need a dire run of songs to ever be taken over at the top...Eledan, Quotosibb, Kingdom Of Shadow and Nonsuch are catching up whilst Bhangra, Simondly, Angelicland and Kylienips are never far behind...Ashton are now the most sucessful non-winners

Posted by: brunoboi 15th December 2008, 07:34 PM

I'm coming up, I want the world to know lalala!

Posted by: gooddelta 15th December 2008, 07:37 PM

for something you had no confidence in Brunoboi, Belinda did incredibly well, it was in my top 15 but missed out on points from Rontvia

Lights I much prefer, so by rights you should be back in the top 3 next month

Posted by: brunoboi 15th December 2008, 07:42 PM

Well actually before I announced her I really thought she would go top ten but then everyone gave their opinions and the odds - what was I sposed to think?

I also prefer LIGHTS but to be honest have no idea how she will do. i'm glad to have your support though, it is much appreciated

Oh and btw - Quicksand (by my calculations) scored 35.75% of the available points so doesn't make the top ten 'most successful songs' it was a pretty tight contest so Mdice et others took a lot of the high scores away from La Roux

Posted by: gooddelta 15th December 2008, 07:47 PM

many people don't give any sort of opinions though, and these 'silent voters' are where you will pick up most of your points

for fear of repeating myself, when I make a statement, in any thread in this entire forum, it is my personal opinion, out of 45+ countries...so if I say I dislike a song, there are still potentially 528 points on offer (12x44)...one person's opinion means nothing...only when you get 15 people in a row saying that they hate a song should you be worried[/headhunted]

Posted by: The 411. 15th December 2008, 07:53 PM

LOL, you didnt get 15 Rich, stop being over dramatic, it was 10 at the most LOL.

Posted by: brunoboi 15th December 2008, 07:55 PM

Which is why I dislike odds as they can give the impression of fifteen people in a row saying they dislike a song when actually they're just copying the first bloke

Posted by: brunoboi 15th December 2008, 07:56 PM

actually I was always too polite to say I properly hated it (sorry Rich)

Posted by: Trashlexmas 15th December 2008, 07:57 PM

Just remember Peter that it was 44 voters, not 45. I'm not having my only winner miss this list!

Posted by: brunoboi 15th December 2008, 08:00 PM

You still just miss out - 36.55%

Posted by: gooddelta 15th December 2008, 08:02 PM

or the other way round, people seeing something in first and everyone rushing to give it high odds...which is why I always try to do my odds first if at all possible

Posted by: gooddelta 15th December 2008, 08:03 PM

that's ok, it's all a matter of personal taste

Posted by: brunoboi 15th December 2008, 08:03 PM

so that everyone copies you? And that's why you always overate yourself

lol j/k - I'm just bitter at being a rubbish predictor

Posted by: gooddelta 15th December 2008, 08:09 PM

you got it in one

no actually, it's because I know that I'll be influenced by other people if I don't do it first and I hate letting myself fall into this trap

I have got the winner right 5 of the last 6 contests though, Brandy caught me off guard though

Posted by: Harve 15th December 2008, 09:25 PM

Just typed Headhunted into youtube, by Mira Craig. Make that 16

I think the contest may be unpredictable but it isn't that unpredictable, this winner was predicted to do extremely well from the get go. Then again i've only seen one contest, i don't really know.

Posted by: The Fear 15th December 2008, 09:28 PM

Beverley Knight came out of nowhere.

As did most of the Pre-BJSCVII winners.

IKAG was always gonna win. as was WYRMT.

Brandy was a shock in BJSCX

Posted by: Aaron™ 15th December 2008, 09:31 PM

*twitch*

I was really quite pleased with my one win too, it's great to see people liking a song I love so much enough for it to win. The only live winner too.

Posted by: The Fear 15th December 2008, 09:37 PM

Argh! corrected.

I did think it looked wrong.

Twas amazing

Posted by: Aaron™ 15th December 2008, 09:47 PM

Heh, sorry, it's a bit of a pet hate I have.

I'd love to send her again but I don't think she has another song as good as 'Black Butta' so it would probably pale in comparison. Actually, I prefer one song of hers to 'Black Butta' but most of her fans even call it a MOR song. I want someone to send her again though, just to see how she'd go down in this 'new era'.

Posted by: Harve 15th December 2008, 09:51 PM

The Queen Of Starting Over?

Posted by: The Fear 15th December 2008, 09:54 PM

I have no idea how she'd go down.

There has been a drastic shift in what works, and what doesn't. As the contest shifted i had got into a proper groove of improving positions after the cheapness of BJSCI [21-16-9-4-2] since VII i haven't been so sure of what would do well.

I think most of my songs that i have lined up would have done well Pre-Untouched, but i'm not sure about Post-Untouched. I quite like Piece Of My Heart and Come As you Are.

I am considering entering a cover of POMH but am really indifferent about how it would go

Posted by: The 411. 15th December 2008, 09:56 PM

I was thinking of Till I See Ya at one point. I dont really think Come As You Are or Shoulda Woulda Coulda would be too cheap eother as they werent exactly hugely memorable hits.

Posted by: Aaron™ 15th December 2008, 10:03 PM

Yeah, it's possibly my favourite song ever, I know it only came out in 2007 but whatever. Yeah, I'm never gonna send it though. I'd be sad when it flops, even the Bev fans Aled and Simon bascially don't like it much.


I can't really speak for the older generation of contests as I've only been in it since VI but you just have to look at older results to notice that it's changed so much.

POMH would be interesting, it's quite a well known song but if the cover is good enough it should do alright. 'Hallelujah' did decently and that was a song most were probably familiar with.


Do it. Maybe not CAYA or SWC as they'd be a bit cheap for me.

Posted by: Trashlexmas 15th December 2008, 10:06 PM

I: Britney wasn't really a shock, but then again only Charis winning would've been a massive shock - we didn't really know what to expect at the time. I was just glad Nelly didn't win!
II: I was v. shocked at Katharine McPhee winning. Totally didn't see that one coming, esp. as I thought from the semi-final results (and much of the final voting atch) that Regina was gonna win.
III: Dixie Chicks was a bit of a shock, I had thought Duffy had it in the bag. Actually, I lie, I thought Jordin had it in the bag
IV: Sara was a shock as well - I'd thought Wynter Gordon would storm it.
V: Gomenasai shocked everyone really. I didn't have any idea what would win that one though...
VI: Black Butta was possibly the biggest shock winner of them all. I'd thought I Don't Know/Opium would've won.
VII: IKAG was the most predictable winner of them all.
VIII: f*** You does seem quite predictable now, but I had thought Tata Young had it in the bag...
IX: It does seem now that WYRMT was always gonna win, but most of us were terrified that cheapness and So What would steal it, so it was a shock of sorts that BJ made the right decision
X: Brandy wasn't really a shock - it was easily the most open contest we've had thus far, so most of that top ten could've won and it wouldn't have been a shock really.
XI: Lenka wasn't a shock.
XII: Personally La Roux was a shock to me. I predicted 2nd, and throughout most of the voting I thought third. That was one hell of a theft at the end there

Posted by: The Fear 15th December 2008, 10:18 PM

The cover is pretty good, well i think so

Posted by: The Fear 15th December 2008, 10:18 PM

i would agree with this. Brandy was a shock to me as i hated the song.

Posted by: Harve 15th December 2008, 10:23 PM

Its probably favourite Bev song ever. Not that i've got much choice (joking btw)

Posted by: Aaron™ 15th December 2008, 10:36 PM

I don't get it. Are you saying you hate her?

Posted by: The 411. 15th December 2008, 10:43 PM

Queen of Starting Over is just a medicore Bev song IMO, most of the album is better.

Posted by: Harve 15th December 2008, 10:48 PM

No . I'm saying i'm taking the p*** because you say how few fans she has . Nah i quite like her. Last single of the album before her last was very good too

Posted by: Aaron™ 15th December 2008, 11:17 PM

Yeah, that's why I said I wouldn't send it. If you don't think much of it, no one else will.


She has no fans, except me. Keep This Fire Burning? or Piece Of My Heart? Either way, ew cover versions. They're good covers, but still...covers.

Posted by: Chrimbo Jon 15th December 2008, 11:30 PM

SWC will ALWAYS be Bev's best single IMO

Posted by: Peter30 17th December 2008, 03:38 PM

Actually, in the most successful songs, La Roux has nudged Beverley out of the top ten by a fraction of a per cent!!

1) FSR Rontvia - Sara Bareilles - Love Song - 43% (BJSC IV)
2) Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed a Girl - 42.3% (BJSC VII)
3) Eledan - t.A.T.u - Gomenasai - 41.3% (BJSC V)
4) Utopia - Pipettes - Pull Shapes - 40.8% (BJSC IV)
5) Kingdom of Shadow – Margaret Berger – Will You Remember Me Tomorrow – 39.9% (BJSC IX)
6) Kopečka - Stefy - Chelsea - 38.2% (BJSC IV)
7) Bhangra - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice - 37.8% (BJSC III)
8) Mdiče – Britney Spears – And Then We Kiss - 37.7% (BJSC I)
9) Frahliso - Serebro - What's Your Problem? - 37.3% (BJSC IV)
10) Kopečka - La Roux - Quicksand - 36.6% (BJSC XII)

This makes Quicksand the most successful BJSC song since Will You Remember Me Tomorrow!

I know some people did calculations beforehand, but for those wanting specifics, La Roux got 35.55% of the vote, which beats Bev's 35.53%

Posted by: Trashlexmas 17th December 2008, 03:47 PM

Get in I still think something's fishy about this stat though, but I need a mathematician to confirm - there must be some way of finding a standard for popularity as currently it seems skewed towards contests with fewer participants

Posted by: Peter30 17th December 2008, 04:33 PM

Yeah Aaron is convinced that it is too. It certainly does seem to favour the smaller contests, but I think it is the most realistic indication we've got.

There are other possible reasons for there being more songs from contest 4 in the top ten.

We could always compile a top ten from the post-Untouched era, since they were all pretty much the same size

Posted by: Trashlexmas 17th December 2008, 04:41 PM

That sounds much more realistic atch Or perhaps dividing all of the points by how many people voted and multiplying them by a certain amount so we have an equalising standard of sorts? Although that sounds a bit complicated...

Posted by: Aaron™ 17th December 2008, 06:16 PM

I can't think of a fair way to measure the most successful/popular song. The finals vary in size yet we always have to give 10 songs points so the songs where people had to award points to 10/19 other songs are bound to have a benefit over songs where you have to give points to 10/26. (in a 27 song final, or if you didn't qualify 10/27)

It shouldn't really make much difference, but when there is more choice, the points are going to be more spread out. Then there's the non-qualifiers voting which shouldn't unbalance things too much but without a song in the final they have more choice.

I don't really know how to explain it, but when you look at the data it's just obvious that it's biased towards contests with less particpants. I don't think there's a way to fairly do this. It's not comparing like with like. I think the only contests that we can really compare are IX and X as they both had 27 song finals with an equal amount of non-qualifiers but, even then, I doubt the same amount of people actually voted.

Posted by: gooddelta 17th December 2008, 06:40 PM

for me...

I: I didn't care enough to think of it as a shock...I only remember being disappointed at Believe Again doing so awfully in this contest
II: see above but replace Believe Again with Stumble
III: I also thought Jordin would win this one...was surprised it came quite so low
IV: Definitely didn't have Sara down as a winner for me, I thought Pipettes would walk it actually
V: yep, tATu was a shock! nice shock as I was the host
VI: Massive shock that Beverley won...I couldn't see anything but Opium winning that one!
VII: there was never any doubt that it would be a Katy/Gaga 1-2
VIII: another I hosted...early votes indicated that Ladyhawke was going to win...then it switched to Tata, then Little Jackie and then Lily Allen...I wouldn't have been shocked at any of these 4 winning
IX: Everyone else thought So What would walk it, and I did too until about two days before the final results when I changed my mind, after I'd actually heard Margaret's song that is! I was the only one who had her at the top of my odds thread though just before the final results were announced!
X: Brandy shocked me...I thought Mira Craig was going to win, I was so blinded by my love for the track at that time!
XI: Lenka was one of the most obvious winners I think...I always expected it...
XII: La Roux wasn't a surprise for me...I did think it was a 4-6 horse race but La Roux was always in front

Posted by: Trashlexmas 17th December 2008, 07:06 PM

Ahem?

Posted by: Peter30 17th December 2008, 07:25 PM

ACTUALLY....I am now thinking that it might be a coincidence.....

Because it is not the percentage share of points that a song has, it is the percentage of the total amount of points they could have achieved. And the smaller the contest, the smaller this total will be. There are factors to consider like in the earlier contests there were fewer people and so fewer varieties and it came to musical taste etc.

The stats certainly do favour contest 4 in particular, but look and you'll see that the next two smallest contests, 1 and 3, only have one entry each, much lower in the top ten.

A good way to judge would be to look at the percentage scores that the songs at the bottom got.

Posted by: gooddelta 17th December 2008, 07:28 PM

I checked and both Sabrewulf and Simon had Margaret on the top of their odds as well, although the latter probably because he didn't want to be big headed by putting Pink at the top

you had her in 2nd at 2/1 with Pink in first at 3/2, I had them both at the top as joint faves in my final odds

Posted by: Trashlexmas 17th December 2008, 07:38 PM

Perhaps dividing all data by the amount of voters and multiplying it by 27 would do it then?

Posted by: Trashlexmas 17th December 2008, 07:39 PM

Oh yes, I didn't have much faith in the other participants, as I now recall

Posted by: gooddelta 17th December 2008, 07:51 PM

obviously neither did I, hence me making them joint faves even though I hoped that MB would win

Posted by: thisispop 25th January 2009, 06:03 PM

After BJSC XIII:

Top 20 Countries based on Top 10 finishes (12 Pts = 1st, 10 Pts = 2nd, 8 Pts = 3rd, 7 Pts = 4th........ to 1 Pt = 10th) (Ties split on ESC best result count back system):

1st 1st Mdice 70
2nd 2nd FSR Rontvia 57
3rd 3rd Kopecka 42
4th 5th Nonsuch 36
5th 4th Bhangra 35
6th 6th Ashton/Fotherington Islands 31
7th 7th Kylienips 31
8th 8th Angelicland 28
9th 9th Quotosibb 27
10th 10th United States Of Ibiza/Russiatron 25
11th 11th Eledan 24
12th 14th Kingdom Of Shadow 23
13th 12th Bokia 23
14th 19th MKL 22
15th 13th Botanikka 19
16th 15th United States Of Jack 18
17th Ne Herzebania 16
18th 16th Simondly 16
19th 17th Cascadia 16
20th 18th Utopia 16

Posted by: gooddelta 25th January 2009, 06:27 PM

thanks for that Rich, pulling nicely ahead in 2nd there, although nowhere near Mdice

Posted by: tombliboo 25th January 2009, 07:03 PM

ecstatic to be even inside the top 20

Posted by: gooddelta 25th January 2009, 07:21 PM

fully updated! plus I invented a new stat for my own benefit

full top ten info now for the biggest countries, Rontvia greatly pull away from Ashton in a comfortable third place, Kopecka are comfortable in second but Mdice are well ahead at No.1 now

Posted by: tombliboo 25th January 2009, 07:39 PM

11) Kingdom of Shadow (734 Points)

Posted by: The Fear 25th January 2009, 07:47 PM

glad i've pulled away from simondly.

And love being on top of non winners

Posted by: Pavel 25th January 2009, 07:49 PM

I'm near the Top 10 with 692 points

Posted by: Pavel 25th January 2009, 08:11 PM

Kylienips have 2 consecutive Top 5 finishes (4th and 4th in a row) as well, according to their National Thread

Posted by: gooddelta 25th January 2009, 08:11 PM

yes indeed, KoS and Eledan are both very near to the top ten...don't worry I have a record of all of the points as soon as you go into the top ten you will know about it!

Posted by: gooddelta 25th January 2009, 08:13 PM

edited in, forgive me for my incompetence

Mdice could be the first to get 3 in a row next time if they send something decent (which they always do)

Posted by: Peter30 25th January 2009, 08:58 PM

1) FSR Rontvia - Sara Bareilles - Love Song - 43% (BJSC IV)
2) Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed a Girl - 42.3% (BJSC VII)
3) Eledan - t.A.T.u - Gomenasai - 41.3% (BJSC V)
4) Utopia - Pipettes - Pull Shapes - 40.8% (BJSC IV)
5) Herzebania - Agnes Carlsson - Release Me - 40.4% (BJSC XIII)
6) Kingdom of Shadow – Margaret Berger – Will You Remember Me Tomorrow – 39.9% (BJSC IX)
7) Kopečka - Stefy - Chelsea - 38.2% (BJSC IV)
8) Bhangra - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice - 37.8% (BJSC III)
9) Mdiče – Britney Spears – And Then We Kiss - 37.7% (BJSC I)
10) Frahliso - Serebro - What's Your Problem? - 37.3% (BJSC IV)

Posted by: gooddelta 25th January 2009, 09:00 PM

finally he arrives...look at Love Song still at the top, I bet even you're questioning the reliability of that statistic now

Posted by: Pavel 25th January 2009, 09:01 PM

I hope nothing will beat Gomenasai in the future

Posted by: tombliboo 25th January 2009, 09:37 PM

Can't wait for Maggie B and Agnes to go head to head at some point in the future

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th January 2009, 09:58 PM

I still know that there must be some mathematical way of accounting for differing numbers of participants...we have a biased variable methinks!

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th January 2009, 10:11 PM

I think now may be the time to create a list of the top ten scoring songs

Posted by: Peter30 25th January 2009, 10:13 PM

Yes let's!

Posted by: gooddelta 25th January 2009, 10:13 PM

Feel free

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th January 2009, 10:24 PM

Me? ;o I thought you were keeping track

Posted by: Aaron™ 26th January 2009, 01:58 AM

Here you go:

Highest Final Points

01. Herzebania - Agnes Carlsson – Release Me - 199 [BJSC XII // 1st]
02. Kopečka - La Roux - Quicksand - 193 [BJSC XII // 1st]
03. Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl - 188 [BJSC VII // 1st]
04. Kingdom of Shadow - Margaret Berger - Will You Remember Me Tomorrow - 187 [BJSC IX // 1st]
05. Mdiče - Frankmusik - 3 Little Words - 183 [BJSC XII // 2nd]
06. Mdiče - Brandy - Right Here (Departed) - 176 [BJSC X // 1st]
07. Botanikka - Darin; Kat DeLuna - Breathing Your Love - 173 [BJSC XII // 3rd]
08. Torchwood - Lady GaGa - Paparazzi - 170 [BJSC X // 2nd]
09. FSR Rontvia - The Sound of Arrows – M.A.G.I.C. - 169 [BJSC XIII // 2nd]
10. Allecian - The Saturdays - Up - 164 [BJSC X // 3rd]

This obviously favours everything from VII and after and generally the contests with the most participants so it's about as invalid as the other top 10 songs statistic but oh well.

Posted by: Pavel 26th January 2009, 05:05 AM

Mdice feature 3 times But all of these songs are amazing

Posted by: gooddelta 2nd February 2009, 09:57 PM

thanks Aaron, great for M.A.G.I.C, I think my previous highest before this was perhaps Sanna Nielsen or Pixie (can't remember) seeing as my glory days were around the middle of the contest's history (although two top threes in the last three contests is nothing to be ashamed of )

Posted by: Aaron™ 2nd February 2009, 10:05 PM

Oops, I just realised I had somehow missed out the number of points it got. Oh and once you flop this time you'll be in for a win in the next contest 3-DNQ-2-DNQ-1.

Posted by: Trashlexis 2nd February 2009, 10:09 PM

Perhaps a top ten for I to VI and VII onwards? I was thinking of suggesting the same for the other statistic tbh...

Posted by: Aaron™ 2nd February 2009, 10:22 PM

Hmm...this is what I-VI looks like:

01. Eledan - t.A.T.u - Gomenasai - 114 [BJSC V // 1st]
02. Quotosibb - Beverley Knight - Black Butta (Live) - 114 [BJSC VI // 1st]
03. Bhangra - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice - 109 [BJSC III // 1st]
04. Bokia - Katharine McPhee - Dangerous - 105 [BJSC II // 1st]
05. Mdiče - Britney Spears - And Then We Kiss - 104 [BJSC I // 1st]
06. Tyronosaurusland - Regina Spektor - Fidelity - 104 [BJSC II // 2nd]
07. Romeria - Europe - The Final Countdown - 103 [BJSC III // 2nd]
08. Kylienips - The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony - 101 [BJSC II // 3rd]
09. Rivandia - Duffy - Mercy (Live) - 100 [BJSC III // 3rd]
10. Iceyland - Lisa Miskovsky - Sing To Me - 100 [BJSC II // 4th]

Ties broken by letting the songs from contests with less voters go higher. II obviously features more heavily in this.

Posted by: gooddelta 3rd February 2009, 08:39 AM

shows how small IV was when Love Song is still apparently the most popular song percentage wise, yet didn't top 100 points

Posted by: xxKath-is-Hotxx 3rd February 2009, 11:16 AM

Posted by: Peter30 3rd February 2009, 12:08 PM

What if you were to calculate the number of points recieved divided by the number of participants? Would that give a fair statistic or would that be exactly the same as the percentage one?

Posted by: xxKath-is-Hotxx 3rd February 2009, 01:02 PM

Minus one

Posted by: Trashlexis 3rd February 2009, 03:56 PM

I thought that was how you calculated the percentage one? And it would be the number of voters (-1)

Posted by: RobotKing 3rd February 2009, 05:30 PM

There was a country called Tyronosaurusland

Didnt know that.

Posted by: Aaron™ 3rd February 2009, 05:59 PM

I dunno, I reckon it'd still lean towards smaller contests just because we always give 10 songs points but the amount of songs to pick from ranges from 19 to 28 so people were always more likely to give points to "Love Song" than "Black Butta". (smallest final vs biggest final) Maybe it's worth working out though.

Posted by: Trashlexis 4th February 2009, 04:44 PM

Could we have a most successful songs (based on percentage of possible points they could have scored from other countries) stat for I to VI and VII onwards plz? ;o

Posted by: gooddelta 4th February 2009, 04:47 PM

this formula works actually as I came 4th with Sanna in IX, then like you say 3rd in XI and 2nd in XIII

I'd better line something stunning for XV!

Posted by: Trashlexis 4th February 2009, 04:48 PM

If that happens, that simply HAS to go under a new 'notable result runs' stat

Posted by: gooddelta 4th February 2009, 04:48 PM

that really would make my head hurt...

can somebody else get their calculator out please

Posted by: gooddelta 4th February 2009, 04:49 PM

but where would I go after 1st? the only was is back down

Posted by: Trashlexis 4th February 2009, 04:49 PM

Yes, but it would once and for all destroy that really annoying and unexplainable bias towards the earlier contests

Posted by: Trashlexis 4th February 2009, 04:50 PM

27th-DNQ-26th-DNQ-25th?

Posted by: gooddelta 4th February 2009, 04:51 PM

oh dear, a run of 5 results like that would seriously have me question my music tastes

Posted by: Pavel 4th February 2009, 04:56 PM

I suggest a new stat - climbing from the last place to the top or vice versa Herzebania and Eledan fit perfectly

Posted by: Trashlexis 4th February 2009, 05:07 PM

Or best result-worst result/vice versa

Posted by: Peter30 4th February 2009, 05:36 PM

Oh yes it could be something like "Biggest jump from best to worst result"

Posted by: Pavel 4th February 2009, 05:57 PM

In this case i will be featuring in it joint with Kopečka 1-26
And i was 20-1 too

Posted by: Peter30 4th February 2009, 06:57 PM

Although it'll be pretty tough for anyone to beat my worst - best record

Posted by: gooddelta 4th February 2009, 07:15 PM

it's almost like you planned it that way following up something awful with something incredible

Posted by: Trashlexis 4th February 2009, 08:26 PM

They'd need to set a record for worst points ever first! Or just get less than Monica got and set a points record in the next contest...

Posted by: nickthenoodle 7th February 2009, 10:06 PM

I've got a good idea Most consecutive DNQ's ?

Posted by: The Fear 18th February 2009, 12:25 PM

Lily Allen must be 11th on the I-VI list with 99points

Posted by: Peter30 18th February 2009, 12:45 PM

I mean for each individual country. The jump from my worst result to my best result is greater than that of any other country me thinks.

Posted by: Trashlexis 19th February 2009, 11:11 AM

Yes, it is To beat it though, people would need to either set a worst points record or just get less than you got and beat 199...

Posted by: Aaron™ 25th February 2009, 09:28 PM

A total of 20 artists have been sent 3 or more times to the contest and they are:

01. The Veronicas 4
02. Girls Aloud 4
03. Keri Hilson 4
04. M.I.A. 3
05. Alesha Dixon 3
06. Little Boots 3
07. Santogold 3
08. Serebro 3
09. Lily Allen 3
10. Gwen Stefani 3
11. Sibel Redzep 3
12. Lady GaGa 3
13. September 3
14. Imogen Heap 3
15. Sugababes 3
16. Lauren Rose 3
17. Rihanna 3
18. Britney Spears 3
19. Amy Studt 3
20. Enrique Iglesias 3

It's pretty much in no particular order and I didn't do 10 because I couldn't think of who to exclude. Maybe someone can work out who was in the most finals? I don't have time right now.

Posted by: gooddelta 25th February 2009, 10:14 PM

thanks for that Aaron, so far The Veronicas have been the key to success and Amy Studt has flopped...will be interesting to see if XIV continues this pattern!

Posted by: Jonjo 25th February 2009, 10:18 PM

Who is the least successful country, to have won at least 1 contest?

Posted by: gooddelta 25th February 2009, 10:20 PM

Aaron's stat added to the front page, in a slightly amended format

Posted by: gooddelta 25th February 2009, 10:22 PM

Herzebania, followed quite closely by Bokia

Posted by: Trashlexis 25th February 2009, 10:26 PM

I have an idea for measuring success - average points? Points accumulated/contests participated in. Obv Mdice would win but 2nd place onwards would be interesting...

Posted by: thisispop 25th February 2009, 10:31 PM

I think Nonsuch could be in 2nd, due to not participating in the first few contests until the cheapness genie went away and it started to look interesting.

Posted by: Pavel 26th February 2009, 11:08 AM

And Eledan close

Posted by: gooddelta 26th February 2009, 09:54 PM

this would favour the countries that came in late and have done well, such as Nonsuch and Quotosibb

us old timers have had more time to accumulate flops

Posted by: gooddelta 10th March 2009, 08:35 AM

all updated, apart from the bits I don't do, which I will require Peter, Rich and Aaron to update, should there be any changes...in top 10 countries news, Mdice still well ahead, FSR Rontvia have massively closed the gap with Kopecka, depsite DNQ'ing twice, whilst Kopecka have appeared in all 14 finals

Ashton are still the most successful non-winners, only just though as Angelicland leap into the top five most successful countries ever after they scored their 7th top ten finish with The Veronicas!!! Quotosibb are up to 7th with the top 5 in easy reach, whilst Eledan enter the top ten for the first time edging out USR...

Posted by: Pavel 10th March 2009, 09:12 AM

Finally I'm in the Top 10!

Posted by: The Fear 10th March 2009, 09:19 AM

Angelicland is going down

Posted by: Trashlexis 10th March 2009, 09:23 AM

Ooof, I really need a top ten I haven't done all that well since X with the exception of La Roux...

Posted by: The Fear 10th March 2009, 09:26 AM

I can't remember the last time i did well......

Really well was VI with 2nd. but i was mildly proud of Lorelei last month, more so than Lily this month.

Posted by: gooddelta 10th March 2009, 09:37 AM

you've been going quite risky though in the last few contests

it seems that my risky entries either DNQ or come top 2

Posted by: Pavel 10th March 2009, 09:39 AM

Next risky entry is tend to DNQ... Was M.A.G.I.C. risky? ;o

Vincent-The Sound Of Arrows-Uh Huh Her-x

Posted by: gooddelta 10th March 2009, 09:42 AM

I thought so, it was a male duo I didn't expect it to finish top ten, let alone 2nd place

and I can't DNQ this time, I'm prequalified!

Posted by: Pavel 10th March 2009, 09:44 AM

I know... last place then... what's your worst result apart from DNQ's?

Posted by: Aaron™ 10th March 2009, 04:08 PM

No countries beat the Saturdays point total in X this month despite this being the contest with the most voters. Probably because it was all so close with 10 points separating 1st and 4th. 70 points to finish 23rd seems rather high too, I think I finished top 10 on less than 100 points last month.

7th for Quotosibb is great! I think this was my points record actually. Top 5 is appealing, I'm the highest of the "new countries" but I'm also a contest ahead of the briliant Nonsuch who are rather close.

Posted by: gooddelta 10th March 2009, 04:22 PM

Natasha, Delta and Thermostatic all finished at the foot of the top 20, between 17-19

Posted by: TheRobotKing 10th March 2009, 07:55 PM

I'm on 10pts after just 2 contests God, I like this contest. What percentage of votes did Uh Huh Her get?

Posted by: gooddelta 10th March 2009, 07:56 PM

not a very high one, Not A Love Song did not convince the same proportion of voters as Love Song did I can't believe I scored more points last month, when there were less participants, and finished lower

Posted by: Addy Petros 10th March 2009, 08:04 PM

=1) The Veronicas 4
=1) Girls Aloud 4
=1) Keri Hilson 4
=4) M.I.A. 3
=4) Alesha Dixon 3
=4) Little Boots 3
=4) Santogold 3
=4) Serebro 3
=4) Lily Allen 3
=4) Gwen Stefani 3
=4) Sibel Redzep 3
=4) Lady GaGa 3
=4) September 3
=4) Imogen Heap 3
=4) Sugababes 3
=4) Lauren Rose 3
=4) Rihanna 3
=4) Britney Spears 3
=4) Amy Studt 3
=4) Enrique Iglesias 3

shame whoever considers sending again one of these retarded artist

Posted by: Medicated Soap 10th March 2009, 10:24 PM

Ah, I love domination even while completely skipping a contest. God knows where I would be if I had been around for that.

lawlzzz jk. Quotosibb must easily be one of the fastest rising countries.

Posted by: thisispop 10th March 2009, 10:32 PM

The updated Top 20 based on Eurovision Points scoring (1st = 12; 2nd = 10; 3rd = 8 down to 10th = 1 point; with ties sorted by ESC countback system)

After 14 contests:

1st 1st Mdice 74
2nd 2nd FSR Rontvia 69
3rd 3rd Kopecka 42
4th 9th Quotosibb 37
5th 4th Nonsuch 36
6th 5th Bhangra 35
7th 8th Angelicland 35
8th 6th Ashton/Fotherington Islands 31
9th 7th Kylienips 31
10th 15th Botanikka 25
11th 10th United States Of Ibiza/Russiatron 25
12th 11th Eledan 24
13th 12th Kingdom Of Shadow 23
14th 13th Bokia 23
15th 14th MKL 22
16th 16th United States Of Jack 18
17th 17th Herzebania 16
18th 18th Simondly 16
19th 19th Cascadia 16
20th 20th Utopia 16

Posted by: Medicated Soap 10th March 2009, 10:40 PM

NO GO AWAY RONTVIA LOL.

Stop catching up with me haha.

Posted by: Pavel Af Ugglas 11th March 2009, 06:12 AM

There must be the new stat - Consecutive Top 2 finishes.

Posted by: gooddelta 11th March 2009, 07:40 AM

hahaha...Royksopp and Robyn will pull you further ahead again next time...Kopecka are miles behind at No.3 a 27 point gap

Posted by: gooddelta 11th March 2009, 07:40 AM

ah yes, thank you Pavel, another one for Rontvia

Posted by: The Fear 11th March 2009, 09:58 AM

Just 5 points away from the magic 1000.

I will eventually get back on track, and when i do, i'm after top3

Posted by: Medicated Soap 14th March 2009, 02:48 AM

We should do a new stat, most records loloololzzz. Mdice/Rontvia ftw.

Posted by: tombliboo 20th March 2009, 01:20 PM

I'm gonna be picking up the stats from where Rich left offs o any queries/suggestions then don't hesitate to holla at me

Posted by: gooddelta 20th March 2009, 01:23 PM

good stuff Tom, I'm glad it will be continued

I was really running out of time to keep updating it...I think this new 'low-key' approach will suit my increasingly busy lifestyle now, I really should have passed hosting duties onto Aaron straight away...although I would have definitely been able to shoehorn it in somewhere in my schedule somehow, it's better that somebody can do it on a Sunday who has enough free time to devote to it...once I go back to work on Sunday, my free time will be absolutely minimal again

Posted by: tombliboo 20th March 2009, 01:27 PM

I hope it will, you need to get back into F.U.N-Rontvia mode. And no worries about not being able to run the contest it's 100% understandable

Posted by: gooddelta 13th April 2009, 03:58 PM

update them Tom

Posted by: Robot 13th April 2009, 04:37 PM

I might be on that Top 20 countries thing

4th, 6th then 3rd. Which equals 7+5+8 = 20!

Posted by: Maxïmo Pavel 13th April 2009, 04:45 PM

Almost overtook me I got 24

Posted by: Medicated Soap 14th April 2009, 09:52 PM

Waiting.

Posted by: tombliboo 14th April 2009, 09:57 PM

keep doing just that

Posted by: Aaron* 15th April 2009, 12:25 AM

New most used list:

1) Keri Hilson 5
=2) The Veronicas 4
=2) Lady GaGa 4
=2) Little Boots 4
=2) Girls Aloud 4
=6) Alesha Dixon 3
=6) Amy Studt 3
=6) Britney Spears 3
=6) Enrique Iglesias 3
=6) Gwen Stefani 3
=6) Imogen Heap 3
=6) Ladyhawke 3
=6) Lauren Rose 3
=6) Lily Allen 3
=6) M.I.A. 3
=6) Natasha Bedingfield 3
=6) Rihanna 3
=6) Robyn 3
=6) Röyksopp 3
=6) Santogold 3
=6) The Saturdays 3
=6) September 3
=6) Serebro 3
=6) Sibel Redzep 3
=6) Sophie Ellis-Bextor 3
=6) Sugababes 3


New 'new era' highest point scorers.

01) Mdiče - Röyksopp ft. Robyn - The Girl And The Robot - 207 [BJSC XV //1st]
02) Herzebania - Agnes Carlsson – Release Me - 199 [BJSC XII // 1st]
03) Kopečka - La Roux - Quicksand - 193 [BJSC XII // 1st]
04) Mdiče - Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl - 188 [BJSC VII // 1st]
05) Kingdom of Shadow - Margaret Berger - Will You Remember Me Tomorrow - 187 [BJSC IX // 1st]
06) Mdiče - Frankmusik - 3 Little Words - 183 [BJSC XII // 2nd]
07) Mdiče - Brandy - Right Here (Departed) - 176 [BJSC X // 1st]
08) Botanikka - Darin; Kat DeLuna - Breathing Your Love - 173 [BJSC XII // 3rd]
09) Torchwood - Lady GaGa - Paparazzi - 170 [BJSC X // 2nd]
10) FSR Rontvia - The Sound of Arrows – M.A.G.I.C. - 169 [BJSC XIII // 2nd]

No Jody. o:

Posted by: tombliboo 15th April 2009, 06:54 AM

I'll try and update the rest of the stats this evening

Posted by: Maxïmo Pavel 15th April 2009, 07:22 AM

Keri Hilson is officially the new BJSC whore

Posted by: The Fear 15th April 2009, 07:36 AM

Out of that whole list i believe the Sugababes are the only one's to ave been set every time by the same country



and no Liam, don't get any ideas about sending the Sugababes. We clear?

Posted by: Aaron* 15th April 2009, 07:01 PM

Lauren Rose was also sent by Frahliso on all three occasions. Is that something to be proud of anyway?

Posted by: The Fear 16th April 2009, 12:24 AM

ahhh so she was.

Not really

Posted by: Romeo 16th April 2009, 10:26 AM

The country to finish at every position within the Top 6: FSR Rontvia

Posted by: tombliboo 16th April 2009, 08:51 PM

*First post updated*

Posted by: gooddelta 16th April 2009, 08:57 PM

7th next month please

Posted by: gooddelta 16th April 2009, 08:59 PM

thanks Tom, I'm so close to Kopecka (despite DNQ'ing twice )

Posted by: Robot 16th April 2009, 09:02 PM

Yihee!! Feels good to see my country on stats.

Posted by: LiamMauboy 16th April 2009, 10:11 PM

Fortunia's on it twice, but yay!

Posted by: The Fear 17th April 2009, 01:19 AM

*wipes sweat from brow*

we still stay 4th. phew.

The little bit of breathing room at the top of the yet to win chart is nice as well

Posted by: tombliboo 17th April 2009, 06:58 AM

is that really a good thing Phil?

Posted by: The Fear 17th April 2009, 07:02 AM

I thought i was going to drop down to 5th, and given my recent run. Staying 4th in the all time rankings is quite acceptable.

Posted by: tombliboo 17th April 2009, 07:02 AM

I meant about being top of the losers chart

Posted by: The Fear 17th April 2009, 07:08 AM

Ah,

Yes i think.

It's nice to top a chart, even if it is the yet to win chart, obv we hope our forthcoming entries will change all of this.

Especially one we have up our sleeves.

Posted by: Tron 17th April 2009, 10:29 AM

I NEED ME A BIG-ASS WIN.

Posted by: The Fear 17th April 2009, 10:36 AM

Get in line!!!

Posted by: Tron 17th April 2009, 10:39 AM

Your title as most successful non-winner is safe. My title as second-most successful nation points-wise isn't Even my only victory was 10 points ahead of the most successful nation!

Posted by: gooddelta 17th April 2009, 04:27 PM

unless Mdice send something absolutely awful and you have a record win in XVI, I don't think either of us are going to get any closer to Ben

Posted by: Romeo Af Ugglas 17th April 2009, 04:29 PM

LOL. every possible record belongs to either Rontvia or Mdice

And i do see Rontvia getting close to Mdice at some point (by the time ofg XXI i reckon )

Posted by: Medicated Soap 18th April 2009, 04:15 AM

5 contests is soon? LOL. I'll be in college in 5 months. AH CRAZYNESS.

But yes I shall not be on top for long sadlyzz. I feeeel it. Rontvia can send nearly anything and almost always do well, it's just a matter of being in the right semi. Even unknown stuff. I tend to send songs that are known by a couple of BJ-ers but not necessarily by most of the people in BJSC, specifically songs like Brandy which probably is still my favorite entry (tied with Royksopp, I'd say). Still shocked an R&B song won, looking back on it. But I've gotten very lucky in the past few months in that songs like that have existed. I'm completely stuck this contest, which could end up being a good or bad thing. I'll be glad if introduce even a couple of people to a song though.

Posted by: gooddelta 18th April 2009, 07:31 AM

says the man with 4 winners and more records than me I have had 5 flops though, compared to your 2

I usually try to look for songs that I hope aren't known by any BJ-ers, not for any particular reason, just that this contest gives me a monthly opportunity to look outside of my usual cheesy pop box to discover songs from other genres/places

and if it makes you feel any better, I don't have any idea for this contest either really...I don't think any of my current reservations will do anything other than DNQ, and I'm still actively looking for a song that blows me away, rather than one that I will make do with

Posted by: nickthenoodle 18th April 2009, 12:29 PM

All countries who've made it to 3+ finals average points per final

01 Hendinia 134.0
02 Mdiče 118.8
03 Quotosibb 102.7
04 Nonsuch 102.4
05 FSR Rontvia 100.3
06 Herzebania 98.8
07 Torchwood 95.9
08 MKL 95.6
09 Kingdom of Shadow 94.3
10 USJ 91.3
11 Kopečka 90.0
12 Sangria 88.3
13 Botanikka 85.4
14 B.a.N.G. 82.0
15 FNTNickodonia 81.7
16 Jrk-Off 81.7
17 Angelic Land 81.2
18 Lorikeet 78.5
19 Kylienips 77.6
20 Ashton 75.7
21 USR 75.0
22 Simondly 73.6
23 People's Republic of Jester 72.8
24 FNR Tinnmark 72.7
25 Priceville 70.8
26 Bhangra 70.5
27 Allecian 70.5
28 Eledan 69.3
29 Faztickle 67.6
30 Rivandia 66.9
31 Ojnoj 66.5
32 Dalisska 66.3
33 Bokia 66.1
34 Frahliso 65.6
35 Hitanya 64.7
36 Triodopolis 62.8
37 Spila 62.3
38 Utopia 58.8
39 Land of Jack 57.2
40 Cascadia 57.0
41 Fevorosia 56.3
42 Tapatilandia 55.4
43 FSR Farathyn 54.6
44 Astoria 51.7
45 Juranabaijan 51.7
46 New Alba 39.0

Posted by: Jerick 18th April 2009, 01:10 PM

01 Hendinia 134.0
02 Mdiče 118.8
03 Quotosibb 102.7
04 Nonsuch 102.4
05 FSR Rontvia 100.3
06 Herzebania 98.8
07 Torchwood 95.9
08 MKL 95.6
09 Kingdom of Shadow 94.3
10 USJ 91.3
11 Kopečka 90.0
12 Sangria 88.3
13 Botanikka 85.4
14 B.a.N.G. 82.0
15 FNTNickodonia 81.7
16 Jrk-Off 81.7
17 Angelic Land 81.2
18 Lorikeet 78.5
19 Kylienips 77.6
20 Ashton 75.7
21 USR 75.0
22 Simondly 73.6
23 People's Republic of Jester 72.8
24 FNR Tinnmark 72.7
25 Priceville 70.8
26 Bhangra 70.5
27 Allecian 70.5
28 Eledan 69.3
29 Faztickle 67.6
30 Rivandia 66.9
31 Ojnoj 66.5
32 Dalisska 66.3
33 Bokia 66.1
34 Frahliso 65.6
35 Hitanya 64.7
36 Triodopolis 62.8
37 Spila 62.3
38 Utopia 58.8
39 Land of Jack 57.2
40 Cascadia 57.0
41 Fevorosia 56.3
42 Tapatilandia 55.4
43 FSR Farathyn 54.6
44 Astoria 51.7
45 Juranabaijan 51.7
46 New Alba 39.0

And can people soon begin to call me Tinnmark again

Posted by: gooddelta 18th April 2009, 03:10 PM

interesting stat, although doesn't reflect as well on those of us who have been here since the start when you could win with under 100 points, a requirement to miss the top ten these days

Posted by: The Fear 18th April 2009, 03:21 PM

yeah i don't like that stat.

it reflects better on those who have been in a small number of finals and have been lucky in said finals.

Posted by: Robot 18th April 2009, 03:23 PM

Haha. I love that fact

Posted by: Romeo Af Ugglas 18th April 2009, 03:23 PM

Exactly

Posted by: The Fear 18th April 2009, 03:28 PM

The fact that the 4th most successful nation is down in 20th says so much about that stat.

Posted by: gooddelta 18th April 2009, 03:34 PM

an average of over 100 points isn't bad for FSR Rontvia I suppose considering we're 15 contests in

Posted by: Romeo Af Ugglas 18th April 2009, 03:36 PM

13

Posted by: gooddelta 18th April 2009, 03:39 PM

ah yes, I hate my DNQ's, it wiped away the chance of me getting closer to Mdice and Kopecka

Posted by: Aaron* 18th April 2009, 03:52 PM

Of course that stat is biased towards the new countries or the ones that have been in less finals (same thing I guess?) but practically all the other stats are biased towards those who have been here longest.

It would suggest that you did well earlier (when it took less points to do well) but not so much in the high points era. Mdiče and FSR Rontvia have been consistent throughout and are in the top 5.

I wonder if Hendinia will be able to keep this up? They've only been in the minimum amount of contests but that's great.

Posted by: nickthenoodle 18th April 2009, 04:00 PM

I meant to put at the bottom, don't read too much into this, there were like 25 countries in BJSCI-VI

Posted by: OrgasmicLust 18th April 2009, 04:01 PM

USoR are doing so poor as of late. :/

Posted by: BANG_ 4th May 2009, 08:43 PM

I agree completely with this point. It's highly unlikely any new country is gonna be top of the most successful country based on points in a final.

Posted by: Silas 4th May 2009, 08:46 PM

It's the one small advantage we have over everyone else. The fact that a small number of us have been here from the start.

Which is also very good for the contest.

And, all it takes is a bad run. The first 6 contests were very low points so it wouldn't take too long to be caught up, Quotosibb are breathing down the neck of the top5

*edit* Aaron is already 5th, and is 37 points away from me.

I though i had Angelicland between us still.

Bugger.

Posted by: LiamDeBarge 4th May 2009, 08:48 PM

I have a total of 72 combined points I think :haha:

Posted by: Jerick 10th May 2009, 03:03 AM

watch up Mdice Tinnmark only need to 15th places to get in the stats of "same position, most times" 3 times 15th

Posted by: Medicated Soap 10th May 2009, 03:54 AM

I'm aiming for 7th with this contest, so I think NOT.

Posted by: I'm Not A Robot 10th May 2009, 06:08 AM

But you will get 1st

Posted by: Silas 10th May 2009, 06:32 AM

Woop @ Ashton & Mdice now equalling Kopecka for number of finals.

Gotta love DNQ's

Posted by: gooddelta 10th May 2009, 06:40 AM

it is looking increasingly like a 5th win for Mdice unless La Roux can become the first artist to win twice!

Posted by: Tron 10th May 2009, 10:30 AM

BULLETPROOF MUST WIN.

Posted by: Booty Robot 10th May 2009, 10:34 AM

I think either the same artist will win twice, or the host will win. They would be both be a first for the competition wouldn't they?

Posted by: Tron 10th May 2009, 10:46 AM

They would both be firsts yes! I don't see it happening any other way though...

Posted by: Sabrewulf238 10th May 2009, 11:25 AM

398 points for Dalisska so far, not bad at all.

Hopefully Dalisska will break the 400 points barrier this contest

Posted by: tombliboo 10th May 2009, 02:49 PM

I think Mdice should be in contention, La Roux may be successful off of the back of IFTK hitting the big time and thus giving them a lot of BJ fans but I don't think Bulletproof quite has the same impact needed for the win, an extremely strong finish is certainly likely though. I've still not heard all the semi 2 songs in full so can't quite say who i think will be contending the win but I think it's pretty open.

Posted by: nickthenoodle 10th May 2009, 02:54 PM

Nickodonia have scored 245 points in the finals, I don't think we'll pass 300 this time around, but next time we make the final we should .

Posted by: Tron 10th May 2009, 03:03 PM

Bulletproof converts all the IFTK haters though...it quite frankly must win

Posted by: I'm Not A Robot 10th May 2009, 03:07 PM

Ghosts will gain more than 55 points fo' sho'! Your top 15, if not a top 10 chance!

Posted by: nickthenoodle 10th May 2009, 06:16 PM

Ooh top 15 would be great. Actually, I'm after a second top 10

I'd say 2 top 10's from 10 contests would be good .

Posted by: AaronTM 14th May 2009, 07:47 PM

The updated list of times people have been sent:

1) Keri Hilson 5
=2) Girls Aloud 4
=2) Lady GaGa 4
=2) Little Boots 4
=2) Serebro 4
=2) Veronicas 4
=7) Alesha Dixon 3
=7) Amy Studt 3
=7) Britney Spears 3
=7) Da Buzz 3
=7) Enrique Iglesias 3
=7) Gwen Stefani 3
=7) Imogen Heap 3
=7) Kate Voegele 3
=7) Ladyhawke 3
=7) Lauren Rose 3
=7) Lily Allen 3
=7) M.I.A. 3
=7) Marina and the Diamonds 3
=7) Natasha Bedingfield 3
=7) Rihanna 3
=7) Robyn 3
=7) Royksopp 3
=7) Santogold 3
=7) Saturdays 3
=7) September 3
=7) Sibel Redzep 3
=7) Sophie Ellis-Bextor 3
=7) Sugababes 3
=7) VV Brown 3

The amount of artists on 3 is getting quite long, hopefully some of them will go up to 4 next month and I can make a nice top 10, if not I'll probably cut it down to those who have been used 4+ times anyway in the likely event of people on 2 uses (Jordin Sparks) being sent and making the list longer.

Posted by: RabbitFurCoat 17th May 2009, 09:02 AM

VV has 3, no?

Posted by: AaronTM 17th May 2009, 06:53 PM

Ooh thanks. I made a stupid mistake and only used the lists from the people in semi 1 and 2 to update so the auto-qualifier was left out.

Posted by: Oh Anthombliboo 17th May 2009, 10:18 PM

*stats updated for XVI*

Posted by: Medicated Soap 17th May 2009, 10:22 PM

Most finishes in the same position:

Mdice (5 7th place finishes)

1st too, lawlz.

Thanks for the update though. <3

Posted by: Oh Anthombliboo 17th May 2009, 10:23 PM

Damn your repetetiveness

EDIT: Cheers mate - FIXED

Posted by: Is It True? 17th May 2009, 10:45 PM

Kopecka, you're mine next boi


Ashton just owns the Top Non-Winner Stat now

Posted by: (Gary) 17th May 2009, 10:53 PM

Yay in the top 10.

USoR desperately need a top 10 finish though.

Posted by: Is It True? 17th May 2009, 10:55 PM

I'm sure USoR are a RE into the top10.

I'm quite sure that i was the one that knocked them out of the top5 when i first entered it.

*edit*

Checking back, USoR once upon a time was the most successful country on points.

We kicked out Bhangra.

Posted by: (Gary) 17th May 2009, 11:03 PM

Bloody hell. I used to do so well. Now I'm lucky to qualify let alone go top 20

We're going for a massive comeback in the next contest though...

Posted by: Is It True? 17th May 2009, 11:05 PM

It was around the 7th/8th contest, then you had a bad run of Results and dropped.

Comebacks are always fun!

Posted by: (Gary) 17th May 2009, 11:08 PM

Yes, I think I began to flop after sending Kate Ryan in whatever contest.

And I haven't been able to to top 10 since.

Posted by: Is It True? 17th May 2009, 11:11 PM

VIII, she finished the spot above me with 112 points.

Ella Elle L'a is an actual anthem in my old flat back home. Was always without fail put on before we went out.

Posted by: Addy! Denters 17th May 2009, 11:17 PM

i think the lowest score record belongs to Herzebania

Posted by: (Gary) 17th May 2009, 11:20 PM

The good days of Buzzjack Song contest For me anyway.

I literally heard the song the day I confirmed it. I think I was going to send Neon Neon or something before I heard the song.

Posted by: Is It True? 17th May 2009, 11:25 PM

VIII was about the end of the golden years for me too [until today]

V and VI remain my favourite contests.

Posted by: Medicated Soap 17th May 2009, 11:48 PM

Old BJSC = ew. Though I am a bit NOSTALGIC I suppose.

Posted by: AaronTM 18th May 2009, 12:04 AM

Ooh the gap between Quotosibb and Ashton is narrowing, don't think we'll catch up soon. I'm feeling a bad run for us is coming soon. (a bit like Eledan)

I've probably said it before, but I'm happy with 5th. I'm behind the 'main four' that have been in it from the start and I joined six contests in. though Nonsuch isn't far behind and Rich is a contest behind me

Posted by: Oh Anthombliboo 18th May 2009, 06:27 AM

I joined a contest before you and am still 200 points behind

Posted by: Pavel 18th May 2009, 01:05 PM

Just realised the thing... Who are Republic Of Tron and what happened to them?

Posted by: Pavel 18th May 2009, 01:06 PM

Don't remind me, I joined 2 contests earlier than Aaron and they are still x2 points above

Posted by: Fairytron 18th May 2009, 01:42 PM

Kopecka WILL bridge that 55 point gap next time around

Posted by: AaronTM 18th May 2009, 03:16 PM

But you actually have proper BJSC classic entries and I've been in one more final than you anyway.


But you've also had two DNQs, so we're even. Eledan takes more risks too so your total is more impressive than my safer entries.

Posted by: Pavel 18th May 2009, 03:24 PM

Good term is used here - 'safer' I keep feeling sorry about not giving anything to Robyn/Falk and MIA/AR Rahman

Posted by: AaronTM 18th May 2009, 03:41 PM

So you should be Pavel! I was robbed.

Posted by: Oh Anthombliboo 18th May 2009, 06:10 PM

just 1

You totally deserve it though - I don't think Quotosibb get enough recognition as being one of the greatest BJSC nations, definitely up there with Rontvia and Mdice for constant success.

Posted by: Erik'Fairy'Rybak 18th May 2009, 06:18 PM

The Tinnmarkian "golden" age was over in XIII since then 3 DNQ's 5 in total

Posted by: Oh Anthombliboo 18th May 2009, 06:51 PM

After you enter Dame Maggie B one can only go down hill

Posted by: AaronTM 19th May 2009, 12:03 AM

Well I think Lights and Janet Leon will be fairly well remembered too. Plus, that 'one' is probably one of the most remembered overall. Don't think Quotosibb have that many entries that are proper BJSC songs. I'll have to find one in time for the next Best Of.

Posted by: Erik Rybak 19th May 2009, 02:16 PM

I'm cursed

Posted by: Oh Anthombliboo 19th May 2009, 06:32 PM

Janet who? my worst entry ever

But yeah I am totally feeling I have nothing to be considered for the next Best Of but it's just finding that 'one' song.

I think Quotosibb, although not necessarily having a defining hit single (though you could call Beverley just that) generally have a high quality of entries consistently which makes you high profile. KoS are quite inconsistent and thus don't quite have the same reputation as being a top nation.

Posted by: gooddelta 21st May 2009, 08:01 PM

I'd say Lights has a good chance...it may only have come 6th but it should have come at least 3rd or 4th and I reckon it might get into the Best Of...great song

and why have you gone off Janet Leon?

I reckon Black Butta is one of the defining 'BJSC' songs, i.e. songs that few people would know about without the contest but are now standards to the forum...I know Quotosibb like to keep it more safe in order to keep up their qualification record these days (Video Villain was a nice surprise though!) but I look forward to the day when Aaron sends another contest defining song like that...and when he does, FSR Rontvia's 12 points are reserved just for that occasion Black Butta only getting 1 point from me in VI was a complete injustice, and I can only apologise profusely

Posted by: Tombliboo 21st May 2009, 09:31 PM

Janet was my first and as yet only 'of the moment' entry whom I didn't know prior to the contest. Although it was a good song, it was completely average and I have absolutely no desire to listen to it again.

For sure Black Butta was brilliant - Unique in being a live version and winning too, Beverley's phenominal performance never fails to amaze me!

Posted by: gooddelta 21st May 2009, 09:34 PM

I'm so relieved that I sent Uh Huh Her over Janet to XV...I got bored of Let Go in a couple of weeks...I wouldn't call Breakaway average, it's a good song, perhaps not as good as Heartache On The Dancefloor but that would have got slaughtered for sounding almost identical to Chris Brown's Forever

everything about Black Butta winning was great for the contest, a live song, a great album track, a great vocal, a debuting nation...it's a very special song for the contest and would be in the first five songs I mentioned if someone said 'name some BJSC classics'

Posted by: Is It True? 21st May 2009, 09:38 PM

*XIV



I remember dismissing Janet quickly

Posted by: Tombliboo 21st May 2009, 09:39 PM

Janet... meh

So what would be your other 3? (assuming Dame Maggie would be in there )



Just like everyone dismissed Belinda (my second best finishing entry thus far!) It's hard to judge where pure pop princesses will perform.

Posted by: Is It True? 21st May 2009, 09:41 PM

Belinda was epic

Posted by: Tombliboo 21st May 2009, 09:42 PM

still is!

Posted by: Is It True? 21st May 2009, 09:43 PM

indeed

contender for Ashton's 12 in the Spin off

Posted by: AaronTM 22nd May 2009, 03:08 PM

Shame it only scraped 19th in the Best Of, obviously not that defining.

I wish I could find another contest defining song as well but I'm not that good at unknowns and the fact that a Beverley Knight album track is considered something people would have never heard is quite sad. I (obviously) think she's brilliant and "Black Butta" not being a lead, or even a single, is one of the most baffling choices I've ever seen, forget "Migrate". I'm a huge fan and it's up there as one of her best imo. It just so happened that an amazing performance of one of my favourite songs by my favourite artist went down with the rest of you. I'd love to go back to her but "Straight Jacket" and even "Shoulda Woulda Coulda" didn't do much when she has been sent again.

After going really cheap with September I figured I could allow myself to send something that would probably flop as I was hosting. Video Villain was definitely a "I would never send this if I wasn't hosting" entry but it didn't do too badly in the end though it was so marmite in the voting I think it would have dropped out in the semis.

Now I've sent an alternate version of a cheap song I will try going back to a lesser known song with Tegan & Sara for XVII but you've probably heard it as well. I expect it'll drop out at the semis but I've been considering it for a while and this contest mirrors VII (which is my current worse result) so it'll be quite apt if/when it fails. Unfortunately it's not quite contest defining, I pulled them out of XIV because they were too close to the Veronicas and Uh Huh Her.

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd May 2009, 03:41 PM

ah yes, my mistake there have been so many contests it's hard to keep track

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd May 2009, 03:43 PM

Will You Remember Me Tomorrow, Black Butta, Release Me, Money Note and a Rontvian entry, don't know which one though maybe Mine All Mine

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd May 2009, 03:47 PM

September was hardly a bad choice of replacement, coming 2nd

I've just noticed that I didn't give Black Butta anything in my best of votes...I was partly to blame for it coming 19th I reckon it was probably 11th or 12th in my vote, maybe this happened with a lot of people!?!

Posted by: Pavel 22nd May 2009, 04:01 PM

AFAIR(emember) i didn't give Black Butta any points or gave , but very few. 10 in the main contest though

Posted by: AaronTM 22nd May 2009, 04:18 PM

True, it just wasn't very inspired. I wish I checked out her music before she had a confirmed follow up to "Cry For You" as I would have probably sent it back then. Actually, I still don't own her album(s?) no idea why not.

I expect so, it actually only missed 10th place (which I would have been happy with) by about 4 or 5 points. We could have done with more voters in the Best Of.


At least you liked it at one point.

Posted by: Pavel 22nd May 2009, 05:15 PM

I have seen 3 people (also from BJSC) stating The Show as the 'New Entry' (not a RE) this week on their charts

Posted by: Addy! 22nd May 2009, 05:40 PM

yeah, somehow people from this site refuses to chart songs if they're not in future release schedule list...dont know why???

Posted by: Pavel 22nd May 2009, 06:16 PM

I sometimes don't chart some songs purposely, but i always tell if i love the song.

But actually, throw my words, Kylienips/Ojnoj/Simmondly (a new entry on their charts) gave it points.

I'm re-watching the live final of BJSC XI. I was sleeping when it took place

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd May 2009, 07:01 PM

it makes no sense to me either...

for me a personal chart is your personal favourite songs of the week, whatever their source, not your favourite 40 songs off the UK release schedule obviously my chart looks a tad random at times, with album tracks and re-entries all the time but at least it's representative

Posted by: Tombliboo 22nd May 2009, 07:47 PM

Money Note?

ah and the joys of re-living IX

Posted by: Tombliboo 22nd May 2009, 08:47 PM

Just read through the BJSC IX final myself... Annoying little gobsh!te aren't I!

Posted by: Pavel 22nd May 2009, 08:49 PM

XI was so amazing tbh I didn't properly look through the posts the morning after when checking the results before today The last 2 sets of votes are unforgettable!

Posted by: Addy! 22nd May 2009, 08:59 PM

Excatly...same with mine...and this year my chart is full with songs from BJSC

stupid me, wish I never quit doing my chart and wish I save them all...1997-2007

Posted by: gooddelta 22nd May 2009, 09:03 PM

poor Pixie