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 30th August 2017, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(White Mustang @ Aug 30 2017, 10:43 AM)  I think brother Jamie will kill Cersei but then we'll find out it's Arya as Jamie. That would be really iconic tbf |
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30th August 2017, 09:27 PM
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Jaime killing Cersei would definitely feel the most 'appropriate' way, in terms of wrapping their arc up. I think when I first started watching I thought she was more moral than him! I somehow can't see Arya making it through alive, but I hope I'm wrong. At least one of the Starks are dying and I'd hazard a guess it won't be Jon. I feel like there's no way that this could end that would genuinely surprise everyone at this point especially with no source material, but then again I've been proved wrong with this before.
Slightly unrelated (and probably not important) but I was discussing a theory with my friend that Samwell Tarly writes the history story that is the events of Game of Thrones and calls it 'A Song of Ice and Fire', would be quite a wonderful last scene, when we get to the point. Anyway, was a wonderful series finale, I did see a lot of it coming but that didn't make it any less entertaining. Gonna be an agonising wait until the concluding part. |
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30th August 2017, 09:30 PM
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That Sam fan theory is utter crap. It is lifted right out of LOTR. If you want to see that scene, watch LOTR. It would be as crap as the fake Geordie with that insulting pardy of an accent, which no one has, and which i insulting to the north, saying, 'ah therr ya wur still rarrin ya berrt' to please fans.
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30th August 2017, 09:34 PM
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Now it would work if the final scene is Sam finishing writing the 5th book and then saying "Ah f*** it, I can't be arsed to write the others".
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30th August 2017, 09:36 PM
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The owls are not what they seem
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 Well George R R Martin has likened himself to Sam more than the others!
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31st August 2017, 06:46 AM
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Obviously Winterfell is en route to Kings Landing so I wouldn't be surprised if the two Starks there did get some action and near death before anybody else.
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31st August 2017, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Aug 30 2017, 10:27 PM) Jaime killing Cersei would definitely feel the most 'appropriate' way, in terms of wrapping their arc up. I think when I first started watching I thought she was more moral than him! I somehow can't see Arya making it through alive, but I hope I'm wrong. At least one of the Starks are dying and I'd hazard a guess it won't be Jon. I feel like there's no way that this could end that would genuinely surprise everyone at this point especially with no source material, but then again I've been proved wrong with this before. At this point, if a Stark dies I think it'll be Bran - after some sort of ultimate hereoric effort / sacrifice. There's really no need for him when all is said and done. |
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31st August 2017, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(MoistSummerFruit @ Aug 30 2017, 10:30 PM) That Sam fan theory is utter crap. It is lifted right out of LOTR. If you want to see that scene, watch LOTR. It would be as crap as the fake Geordie with that insulting pardy of an accent, which no one has, and which i insulting to the north, saying, 'ah therr ya wur still rarrin ya berrt' to please fans. It's not a Geordie accent. It's meant to be unspecific but if anything it's Lancastrian. But if you're going to quibble over accents, Dinklage's is pretty variable in quality, and Coster-Waldeau's and McCann's own accents come through far too frequently too. Aiden Gillen's is all over the place but I'm willing to put that down to a character choice |
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31st August 2017, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(White Mustang @ Aug 31 2017, 09:17 AM) At this point, if a Stark dies I think it'll be Bran - after some sort of ultimate hereoric effort / sacrifice. There's really no need for him when all is said and done. I'm voting for Sansa to die. Not as a preference, just I think she will. Whatever happens, after it all plays out the chances of there always being a Stark in Winterfell are remote with Bran being the only male heir left |
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31st August 2017, 04:48 PM
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Sansa will rule Winterfell, so a Stark will remain. Arya I think will wander off. John Snow ... death or kingship in south really.
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31st August 2017, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(MoistSummerFruit @ Aug 31 2017, 05:48 PM) Sansa will rule Winterfell, so a Stark will remain. Arya I think will wander off. John Snow ... death or kingship in south really. But my point was after Sansa or Arya there won't be any more Starks. If either marries, her children would take his name and a bast*rd cannot inherit lands or titles. Jon is a Targaryen and Bran doesn't really exist anymore and certainly isn't interested in being a father. With no male heirs the Stark name will be gone |
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31st August 2017, 05:19 PM
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No.
I can guarantee a male would take the Stark name as it is more powerful, unless said male is a Baratheon or Lannister. Sansa might not give hers up anyway. |
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1st September 2017, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(MoistSummerFruit @ Aug 31 2017, 06:19 PM) No. I can guarantee a male would take the Stark name as it is more powerful, unless said male is a Baratheon or Lannister. Sansa might not give hers up anyway. That would effectively be asking the entire Kingdom/continent to change it's rules on succession without any challenge or without throwing Westeros into chaos, and whilst not impossible, it would be terrible writing and a betrayal of everything the show has done to build a believable world. I don't believe for one second GRRM would be that sloppy to sanction that. Sansa has given up her name twice already. |
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1st September 2017, 04:32 PM
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Have you all seen the wolf formation that the white walkers form.. A theory saying they're being controlled by Bran
 
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1st September 2017, 04:40 PM
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Yeah. I've not been quite sure what to read into that. Whilst it potentially suggests that B=NK might have some truth to it, it could be a deliberate bum steer or even coincidence (doubtful)
If we take it as a wolf's head the fact that is is reversed does seem symbolic of a reversed Stark but zooming out from that close up does add more detail that suggests it's inconclusive This post has been edited by Severin: 1st September 2017, 04:48 PM |
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1st September 2017, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Severin @ Sep 1 2017, 04:10 PM) That would effectively be asking the entire Kingdom/continent to change it's rules on succession without any challenge or without throwing Westeros into chaos, and whilst not impossible, it would be terrible writing and a betrayal of everything the show has done to build a believable world. I don't believe for one second GRRM would be that sloppy to sanction that. Sansa has given up her name twice already. Wrong, it would be fantastic writing. |
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1st September 2017, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(MoistSummerFruit @ Sep 1 2017, 05:46 PM) Wrong, it would be fantastic writing. It would be conventional heroic fantasy writing, which is fine if you like that sort of thing but it isn't what made Thrones great in the first place |
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1st September 2017, 11:14 PM
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Okay, I've finally managed to see this and I can get stuck in on all your theories! I thought it was wonderful of course, with the highlights being Sansa, Arya and Bran masterfully outmaneuvering Littlefinger and of course the ending scene, which I have pretty much been waiting for ever since I started becoming a fan of this.
I expect one of the first scenes of Season 8 to be something along the lines of Tormund & Beric escaping to Castle Black and then dying with Edd Tollett to a proper White Walker battle. Beyond that, I can't really tell who'll die and when. This season has been really quite light on deaths, it's been a very transitional, fast-paced season, basically moving everything around to the singular focus of the GREAT WAR. So I'm hoping that because of that, next season will feel more complete with more time to focus on the horrors of war. Even though it didn't last, it did feel rather good to have Cersei promise her support, an uncharacteristic thing for this show to do so I'm not surprised they broke that. And it's nice we got Jon's true heritage and name (I didn't realise that was part of it), but interspersing that with a sex scene with the person who's just revealed to be his aunt, well... it's what the Targaryens do I suppose. |
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