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Posted by: troylovesmusic 14th January 2016, 08:23 PM

Fleur has put a poll on her Twitter asking what should be her next Single between 'Breakfast' and 'More and More' Breakfast is currently winning and has the most votes but it's still quite close !

Posted by: mr_pmt 14th January 2016, 09:24 PM

'More And More' has kind of grown on me to the point where I'd be good with either now. If they go with breakfast, they really need to cut the first verse (if you can call it that) in half.

Maybe I'd prefer 'Breakfast' as I have been loving it longer, and 'More And More' is pretty much a wholesale rip-off of 'I Wanna Dance With Somebody'.

Posted by: Liаm 14th January 2016, 09:39 PM

Breakfast is miles better, I'd much prefer that. More and More is fine but I don't think it's a good single.

Posted by: Joe. 14th January 2016, 11:23 PM

Breakfast has to be her best song. But I don't know if the public would take to it as a single. We'd have to see I guess.

Posted by: Mackenzie 14th January 2016, 11:45 PM

Breakfast is a smash, hope she sees her senses

Posted by: Jaÿ 15th January 2016, 05:06 AM

I'd be happy with either song!

Posted by: Davidson 15th January 2016, 12:45 PM

Voted for 'Breakfast' and it's winning with 58%.

I think it definitely has the best chance at doing well but unfortunately I am pessimistic that she will be able to get another hit from this album.

Posted by: KWEEN_DEE 15th January 2016, 02:08 PM

I thought for a minute 'Over Getting Over' was the next single because she randomly shared it on Twitter 3 days ago.

Posted by: mr_pmt 16th January 2016, 05:10 PM

So now that 'Breakfast' has won the poll, does that mean it's conclusively confirmed as the next single?

Posted by: Jack 19th January 2016, 05:03 PM

Looks like she's ignoring the fans and going with More & More anyway, she just posted a picture of the cover art on Instagram.

Posted by: Jonjo 19th January 2016, 05:16 PM

'More & More' is "it's good as an album track" at it's finest! FFS.

Posted by: KWEEN_DEE 19th January 2016, 05:24 PM

The cover is awful

Posted by: Jaÿ 19th January 2016, 05:31 PM

(I like the & in the O, there's a positive).

I think/hope it'll prove itself to be a grower for some of you! It's definitely one of my album highlights & I'm very happy for it to be a single. Although I have to lol at her running a poll and ultimately ignoring the result of it.
I wonder if radio stations have influenced the decision to go with this one? I feel like this is a more radio friendly choice than Breakfast would be.

Shut up and let me say it, ain't no need to complicate it, I just wanna be your baby, every day I love you more and more

Posted by: mr_pmt 19th January 2016, 05:32 PM

I like that song a lot and am listening to it a lot, but it has flop written all over it.

Mind you, like Davidson said I think she'd struggle for a hit beyond the first single regardless.

Posted by: Jack 19th January 2016, 05:34 PM

Yeah she has one hit wonder written all over her. Although she did say she is performing this at the NTA's, so that might get it off to a decent start.

Posted by: Cameron 19th January 2016, 05:39 PM

Oh I really don't like the verses of More and More but the chorus is great. She should have went with breakfast

Posted by: mr_pmt 19th January 2016, 05:42 PM

I don't know why she bothered doing a poll just to ignore the results anyway?

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2016, 05:52 PM

NTAS might save her, but in general I've always said that Sax has one hit wonder written all over it. Saying that I like this a lot more than Sax.

Posted by: Jonjo 19th January 2016, 05:53 PM

Is NTAs guaranteed to be a performance for 'More & More' though? Or will she wheel out 'Sax' again?

EDIT: Just seen the video confirming the performance! Goooood.

Posted by: Vülker 19th January 2016, 06:01 PM

This is not how you keep momentum.

'Baby Don't Dance' was the perfect choice for that as it would cement her sound and prolong that sassy image of her. I can't see 'More & More' doing that at all.

Posted by: Jonjo 19th January 2016, 06:19 PM

Just listening to this again and it's so much "bigger" than I remember it! :\ I can definitely see why this was chosen as the single now tbh. (I hadn't heard it since I last heard the album like 2 weeks+ ago!)

Posted by: Liаm 19th January 2016, 07:19 PM

I'm a bit disappointed with this as a single, I like it but it's no Baby Don't Dance. I agree I just can't really see her getting another hit, I guess this might go top 40 but I don't have too much faith in the rest of the campaign.

Posted by: HausofTroye 19th January 2016, 07:24 PM

'Breakfast' is the big obvious choice, but I do like this. I assume the only reason for not releasing the former is to prolong the album for a bit and have it as a 3rd single?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 19th January 2016, 07:36 PM

I probably would have gone for Breakfast as well but I do think More and More is still a strong single choice and one of my favourites on the Album. It's gets better everytime I play it ! Sax was a decent sized hit so hopefully radio will get behind this. Capital FM seemed to really support her and Sax so hopefully the support continues.

Posted by: *Tim 19th January 2016, 07:41 PM

Why dd she even bother with that poll tho?

Posted by: troylovesmusic 19th January 2016, 07:55 PM

My only guess is that maybe they are saving Breakfast for the Summer ? as Breakast does sound quite summery .

Posted by: vibe 19th January 2016, 07:55 PM

Why is her artwork always so embarrassing ?

Posted by: Ryan. 19th January 2016, 10:04 PM

I'm pretty sure lots of people on the internet including myself compared More and More to Black Magic when it was initially released as an instant grat so it makes sense considering the latter's massive success. Breakfast felt like the safer radio hit, but if Fleur does have TV promo lined up like the NTAs then More and More lends itself better to a big performance I think.

Posted by: Simon. 20th January 2016, 10:15 AM

Don't think it will do well, feels more Pop than R&B too.

Posted by: Joe. 20th January 2016, 10:19 AM

I don't see the point of saving Breakfast, which sounds like a bigger hit to most people, to 3rd. As an under-performing single often leads to lesser support for the next. It's always better to get out the biggest potential hits first, and release riskier choices later down the line.

Posted by: Jonjo 20th January 2016, 08:44 PM

Very good performance! She's a true performer and professional!

Posted by: Jonjo 20th January 2016, 09:35 PM

Straight in at #110 on iTunes and now up to #97! Exceeding my initial thoughts. Great news. Hopefully this will be a hit with the right kind of airplay!

Posted by: Joe. 20th January 2016, 09:37 PM

Added to Capital playlist for tomorrow FYI.

Posted by: Jonjo 20th January 2016, 09:43 PM

The beginning is a bit "eek. This doesn't really translate well live", but it really gets going and she makes it work

Posted by: jark 20th January 2016, 09:48 PM

Everything about her music is mind numblingly basic but this at least does have an enjoyable '80s Whitney vibe. A bit like I Will Never Let You Down. But much less epic obviously.

Posted by: mr_pmt 20th January 2016, 10:22 PM

I seriously love this song! So catchy.

She delivered a good performance, a bit patchy on a couple of occasions in the verses but only minors.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 20th January 2016, 10:42 PM

I feel like this will do just fine tbh. I can imagine Capital hammering it quite a bit as they seem fully on board with her and have have already playlisted it . Hopefully Radio 1 supports as well .

Posted by: Juliano 21st January 2016, 02:37 AM

Breakfast is an awful choice. I mean It's catchy and I like it... but the lyrics are terrible, I had it on my playlist after it was released on Spotify and I was hosting a night in my apartment with the speakers in, it came on and atleast 3 of the people said and I quote "What is this s***."

More and More is better. Baby Don't Dance as single 3, hopefully More & More will go top 10 atleast. Although I don't see it.

Posted by: Jack 21st January 2016, 09:24 AM

Yeah, I'm beginning to think this will do okay now. Probably a low Top 10 / Top 20 but I think that would be good for her. It's very accessible and catchy.

Posted by: Davidson 22nd January 2016, 08:55 PM

My prediction is that streaming will cause the song will miss the top 40.

I hope I'm wrong as I do like 'More & More' but I am still convinced it's not the best single choice.

Posted by: SeanGrey 23rd January 2016, 08:43 PM

Not here for a shambles eye assault video like Sax though.

Posted by: •Josh• 28th January 2016, 08:50 PM

Actually think this is a good single, didn't really notice it until now but it's such an earworm and I've been singing it at school a lot these last couple of days. I like how it's not just novelty like Sax and stands on its own as a good pop song. If she released Breakfast and then Paris then this would be a pretty good debut in terms of singles.

Posted by: Colm 28th January 2016, 10:44 PM

It's an average 3rd single from a 5 Star album in the mid-80s.

Posted by: Juliano 28th January 2016, 11:19 PM

Really? Because to me I know I've heard it a fair few times and it is on my playlist, but if someone were to ask me how it goes, I wouldn't be completely sure and blag some kind of "Every day I love you more and more!".

Posted by: •Josh• 29th January 2016, 08:04 AM

Ah wow, for me the More & More bit has been in my head lots, catchier than Sax I think although I can understand for other appeal it doesn't have the same appeal.

Posted by: KWEEN_DEE 29th January 2016, 10:24 AM

I mean I reckon... BGT performance and re-release / new album later this year?

Posted by: Joe. 5th February 2016, 10:41 AM

Removed from the Capital playlist after 3 weeks due to it 'doing badly', apparently the impact week was next week, so it seemingly didn't get supported by Radio 1 either. But hopefully Radio 1 will just add it later, they've done that before.

Posted by: Davidson 5th February 2016, 11:53 AM

Yeah, this is kind of over before it even got started, isn't it

Posted by: Qween 5th February 2016, 11:57 AM

Ugh, I don't get it. It's SO infectious and joyous and dripping in melody and has a massive hook. Silly public.

Posted by: Jonjo 5th February 2016, 02:02 PM

I don't understand why the impact week is next week and they've done NOTHING else for it? :/ So bizarre!

Posted by: mr_pmt 5th February 2016, 02:20 PM

No video either?

Posted by: Umi 5th February 2016, 02:55 PM

How embarrassing.

Posted by: Joe. 5th February 2016, 02:58 PM

I get the feeling Capital are jumping the gun a bit. Clearly it was never going to be a hit, but I still think it might get at least a couple of weeks on the B list from Radio 1.

Posted by: Ryan. 5th February 2016, 05:52 PM

It doesn't make sense for the impact date to be next week as we have no music video and no Radio 1 playlisting, Radio 1 will at least C-list it if not more - Sax was one of the biggest singles of the last 6 months whether they like it or not.

So Capital are way too quick to drop it, I still think Radio 1 will playlist it at some point.

Posted by: Mackenzie 5th February 2016, 06:04 PM

hopefully they'll come to their senses and release Breakfast, More and More is a nice album track - never should of been released as a single though and this is echoed in it's Spotify streams (not far off of a million whilst More and More has only JUST managed 400k despite a televised performance and being sent to radio), actual chart placing despite non-release and the fact it actually WON THE TWITTER POLL It's like syco want their artists to fail???? everyone I've played it to so far has loved it and couldn't believe it from "that sax girl" Capital's abandonment of the song speaks volumes and 90% of what they play is trash

Posted by: *Tim 5th February 2016, 08:14 PM

She shot the video for this today. Really weird to see Radiogiving up on it already

Posted by: Taylor Jago 5th February 2016, 08:41 PM

I agree. If I played Breakfast at a party I'd be forced to turn it off almost immediately (I never have) More and More is a more accessible choice, and for me is a better song anyway.

Posted by: Jaÿ 5th February 2016, 08:41 PM

Ugh at this seemingly going wrong already.

Capital are a funny lot, they're so quick to abandon certain songs before they have a chance to get going.

Posted by: Jonjo 5th February 2016, 08:58 PM

'Run Away With Me' was in a similar situation I think! But then they re-added, right?

Posted by: Joe. 5th February 2016, 09:23 PM

Yeah but they added it way too late the second time (as it was being dropped by R1) and then removed it after a week, again. Had they (re)playlisted 2 weeks earlier Carly would have probably managed a top 40.

Posted by: Umi 5th February 2016, 11:39 PM

I know this thread is pretty apocalyptic already but I don't feel like it's particularly out of character for Radio 1 to go from hammering one obvious success to ignoring the followup straight away? No examples immediately come to mind but Radio 1 tend to ignore an obvious flop no matter what's came before it, unless they are particularly fond of the artist. And I don't get the impression that they care about Fleur at all.

Posted by: Ryan. 6th February 2016, 12:39 AM

I wouldn't say More and More is an obvious flop, it keeps popping into the iTunes top 100 on the back of just Capital airplay and while that isn't the sign of a future top 10, it could be in contention to be a future top 40 at least on iTunes. But the thing for me is that it doesn't make sense to have the impact date being next week yet the music video is only being filmed now? That says to me that Syco have got their release strategy horribly wrong, or Capital have got the wrong impact date in their head.

It seems to me that the impact date should be end of February/beginning of March where the music video should have been out a couple of weeks by then, Radio 1 would ideally have playlisted it in the next week or two to be reaching B/A-list by then and Capital should have it on their highest list. Capital have just playlisted it way too early it seems, possibly due to Syco giving wrong/stupid impact dates to them, and therefore aren't letting other radio stations and TV music video stations catch up before declaring it a flop.

I'm pretty sure Fleur would be on TV shows in the next week or so too if it was the impact date, yet as far as I know there is no news of any. She was on every single TV show possible during the release of Sax, I find it hard to believe she would be on absolutely nothing - bar the TV awards which obviously was nowhere near what the impact date is so doesn't count - for her second single.

Posted by: Robot 6th February 2016, 02:08 AM

This is such a happy song, makes me feel all cheerful and upbeat when I hear it. It's not necessarily anything special but it does its job and I do wish this would be a success.

Posted by: Eva_coco_may 13th February 2016, 07:24 PM

Hello just to say Fleur video is out the 15th and impact date was changed. for anyone who wants to know shes on sunday brunch tomorrow maybe this is where promo will properly start.

Posted by: Eva_coco_may 13th February 2016, 07:26 PM

Radio 1 still playing Sax and yes they care about Fleur, the problem with capital is they playlisted it to early and there was quite probably a cock up.

Posted by: Vülker 17th February 2016, 09:22 AM

...hmm...

Posted by: Joe. 17th February 2016, 09:28 AM

Well it's better than the Sax video.

Posted by: Froot. 17th February 2016, 09:43 AM

The editing at the start of the video is so bad. Let's show a second of her lip-syncing, particularly when she's inbetween words.

It's a nice video though, nothing amazing but thank God she stayed away from the green screen this time.

Posted by: Ryan. 17th February 2016, 12:42 PM

That isn't the official video, just an "extra treat for the fans".

Posted by: Davidson 17th February 2016, 01:13 PM

there is no way we are going to get another video payed for by syco for this song the way the campaign is going so i have no idea why they wouldn't just call it the official music video. they should just change the title of the youtube video and go with it.

it is hardly amazing and is pretty shoddy in places but it does the job and is rather cheap and cheerful. reminds me a lot of the video for 'flatline' by MKS.

Posted by: mr_pmt 17th February 2016, 02:02 PM

That new mix of it is horrible, a ruination I would say.

I like that video though, they made good use of what is an amazing location.

Posted by: FezVez 22nd February 2016, 06:23 PM

Single Mix has disappeared from Spotify.

Posted by: Mackenzie 22nd February 2016, 11:52 PM

hopefully this is a sign

Posted by: Vülker 23rd February 2016, 10:12 AM

Hopefully most of the album will be gone from Spotify too. Put out 'Baby Don't Dance' for the interim and get recording some House tracks for the radio pronto.

Posted by: diamondtooth 9th March 2016, 10:46 PM

What ever happened the release of More and More.
Is its impact week still coming or has it flopped really badly already?

Posted by: mr_pmt 10th March 2016, 11:11 AM

I actually get the feeling they just haven't bothered with this in the end.

Posted by: KWEEN_DEE 13th March 2016, 12:59 AM

I feel like its over with. Re-release or new album or maybe small tour. Really surprised shes not opening for Little Mix.

Posted by: JoeTheSats 14th March 2016, 10:24 AM

Yeah, I think the impact week being a while back as in fact correct, I can't see this still being a thing, looks like Radio 1 snubbed it. I think she MIGHT get a third single, for the sake of Simon wheeling her out for a BGT performance though. But alas, as I've said when I first heard Sax, I see her being a bit of a one-hit-wonder.

Posted by: SevenSeize 14th March 2016, 10:59 AM

How to go from an extremely well-executed release to one of the most botched "releases" of recent times

That said, I still don't think Sax will be her only hit. She has the Syco machine behind her to guarantee XF/BGT slots and "Breakfast" could do pretty well if that's pushed as the next single

Posted by: Joe. 14th March 2016, 10:59 AM

Yeah, I do think Breakfast on BGT could give her another top 40 at least?

Posted by: Scene 16th March 2016, 03:40 PM

Syco have unsurprisingly messed this campaign up. They never learn. The only thing that can redeem this era is a BGT performance for 'Baby Don't Dance'. 'Breakfast' and 'More & More' are just not cutting it for me.

Posted by: Joe. 16th March 2016, 03:43 PM

I wouldn't put the fault all the way down to Syco.

The song itself clearly wasn't amazing enough to get enough attention, and then radio were a bit annoying with it, Capital playing it loads, but way too early and then dropping it under 3 weeks later and Radio 1 deciding to snub her despite the success of Sax.

Posted by: Scene 16th March 2016, 04:49 PM

True but Syco have form for releasing the wrong singles and making shoddy single campaigns. 'Sax' may have done very well but her album missing the top 10 should've sent alarm bells for a quick recovery and M&M just isn't the single to prevent an artist from being a one-hit-wonder (not to say Fleur will be one, just that the second single is just as important as the first). Syco have made the "second single mistake" quite a lot in the past - 'Better in Time', 'Glow', 'Gotta Be You', 'I Got You', 'Lovebird' - and I'd kind of argue 'Broken Heels' since that was what made Radio 1 cut support for any of Alexandra's future singles.

Posted by: Mackenzie 16th March 2016, 07:53 PM

There was a clear formula here:

Sax - Breakfast - (Album Release) - Paris - Baby Don't Dance.

Syco messed up when they agreed on making More and More anything more than an album track.

Posted by: JoeyJeppssonWall 16th March 2016, 08:01 PM

Better In Time? Really? That was a smash, definitely not any kind of mistake... This has quite clearly not done anything but I don't think it's Syco's fault, there's just not really an obvious smash hit left on the album. Breakfast is fab but I'm not sure it's a smash hit.

Posted by: Scene 16th March 2016, 08:56 PM

It was a hit but it had Sports Relief and coming off the back of 'Bleeding Love' on its side. I think anything would've been a hit after BL and with the Sports Relief connection. I think 'Take A Bow' was the obvious choice but for whatever reason that wasn't chosen at all. I think there's definitely stronger "singles" on the album than 'More & More' and I think the campaign for it could've been a lot smoother. It should've impacted radio in January imo - 'Sax' was falling and her album was just hovering (if my memory serves me correctly ).

Posted by: mr_pmt 16th March 2016, 10:38 PM

I think the album not doing great is what may have set Fleur up for this, I think 'More & More' is fine but maybe the reason Radio 1 didn't go for it is that they decided to cancel the release and thus it never actually had a solid impact date? That's the impression I got anyway, the fact the video hasn't even surfaced for it speaks volumes.

Posted by: Lee_J11 17th March 2016, 10:26 AM

Let's face it, the only song left worth releasing is Gold Watch.

Posted by: Jaÿ 23rd April 2016, 07:37 PM

http://portfolio.incend.io/FleurEast_MoreMore.mp4

The unreleased 'More & More' video!

Posted by: jase. 23rd April 2016, 07:45 PM

what the hell is going on with her at the minute?

Posted by: Froot. 23rd April 2016, 11:56 PM

Unless she had a killer second single, this album campaign was always going to be over before it begun. However, I don't understand why Syco didn't at least TRY to push this, rather than just a last minute NTA performance and a random unofficial video, when Sax was practically forced down our throats to the point where it's hard to like the song.

Indeed, second singles seem to be a Syco problem in general.

Posted by: Eva_coco_may 24th April 2016, 07:09 AM

More and more video was leaked a couple days ago

She's been writing in Bali with tayla parx Mitch Allen Mphases etc, I think they're either getting a quick second album out or its for the American version maybe a gold version of LSAB.

It's all a bit mental ain't it, syco never learn

Posted by: Mackenzie 24th April 2016, 01:03 PM

it was easy, there is a clear structure:

01. Sax - Released in the summer of 2015
02. Breakfast
(Album Release)
03. Paris - BRITS Performance
04. Baby Don't Dance (with some rent-a-rapper)

Posted by: Robot 24th April 2016, 11:57 PM

LMAO "it's simple, just get a BRITS performance".

I really don't get why they'd have film and edit a video only to not put it out there. I can't see any reason why they'd do that, like they've made ZERO return on doing it this way.

Posted by: Jaÿ 25th April 2016, 04:45 AM

I agree, very odd to let it go to waste when it was in a finished state. Surely it wouldn't have been harmful to just pop it on her Vevo and see what happened. :eyes:

Hmm. It seems Syco got cold feet after Capital dropped it. Not only did they cancel the video, but they also made the odd move of removing the Radio Mix version of the track from iTunes & Spotify (which is a very "closing the stable door after the horse has bolted" thing to have done ;o ). It's like they tried to take steps to brush it under the carpet and pretend it wasn't a single after all.

Posted by: Cameron 15th December 2016, 03:01 PM

I am still not over how big a mess this campaign was. One of the biggest injustices of 2016 by far!