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 31st March 2016, 10:33 PM
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I wouldn't mind a referendum on nuclear deterrence at all. It might finally get it through to the anti-nuclear left that it's here to stay, particularly given Scotland would be in favour of keeping it and all.
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31st March 2016, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Mar 31 2016, 11:02 PM)  I am sure he believes there ought to be no nukes in the world. For some strange reason that point is not his first priority when it comes to nations such as Iran having them. I'm sure he opposes nukes for Iran too but is simply highlighting the hypocrisy of western nations having them whereas people not listed as western or on our side not being allowed nukes. |
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31st March 2016, 10:43 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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I'd always call myself a multilateralist, but I do quite like the Japanese approach of keeping the infrastructure required to build nukes and using it for energy production instead, meaning that you'd shut up the CND but retain the ability to build the things within a year if you had to. Especially given that unlike Japan we're nowhere near the sort of natural disaster danger zones which could see it all blow up in our faces. Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in this government's ability to plan for any sort of major infrastructure which doesn't involve boring holes underneath London for trains.
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31st March 2016, 10:46 PM
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DROTTNING!
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MORE NUCLEAR POWER NOW
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31st March 2016, 10:48 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Mar 31 2016, 11:46 PM) MORE NUCLEAR POWER NOW And big tidal barrages across every major estuary. I don't give a fuck about the fish. |
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31st March 2016, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Soy Adriįn @ Mar 31 2016, 11:43 PM) I'd always call myself a multilateralist, but I do quite like the Japanese approach of keeping the infrastructure required to build nukes and using it for energy production instead, meaning that you'd shut up the CND but retain the ability to build the things within a year if you had to. Especially given that unlike Japan we're nowhere near the sort of natural disaster danger zones which could see it all blow up in our faces. Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in this government's ability to plan for any sort of major infrastructure which doesn't involve boring holes underneath London for trains. That would be a nice compromise. |
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1st April 2016, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Mar 31 2016, 10:17 PM) I used to quite like her by Tory standards, but every public appearance has made her come off a right ditz. PRECISELY. Those videos are legendary. |
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1st April 2016, 06:10 PM
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I always thought Sajid Javid would be a shoo-in but I don't suppose the current Tata drama would help any aspiration at the moment.
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1st April 2016, 06:56 PM
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interesting diversion into nuclear weapons here (and power). I'm as I've always been - a realistic pacifist. In an ideal world all sorts of righteous stuff would come to pass. In the world we actually live in, the forces of right and equality and fairness need to be able to make it mutually deadly against aggressors who will not in any way from now until the end of time voluntarily give up on weapons of mass destruction.
To think otherwise is naive. Hitler. Stalin. Never happen again? Don't make me laugh! There are dozens of wannabees lining up all the time to impose their will on others. Does anyone seriously think that there aren't right now ruthless and insane individuals in the world who wouldn't drop a nuke given half a chance? So what we are basically saying is, yes please we want to be protected by the forces of the West - we just don't want to pay for it. So, then you come back to the question, well if a bunch of terrorists managed somehow to grab the controls of nuclear weapons (or a deranged leader from existing owners) we then expect the Americans to rush to the aid of everyone suddenly getting blackmailed. Imagine, ooh a leader with a warped view of reality getting to be President of the USA, who has no interest in foreigners, say, and who wouldn't want to risk retaliation in case it blows up his income source (not to mention kill his voters) back home. Or hypothetically a leader of a major country kept in power by changing the law, brutality and gross corruption who has the power to invade neighbouring countries cos he is very powerful and no-one can do a damn thing to stop him. Obviously that's a completely ludicrous scenario that could never happen..... PS Nuclear power is being handed over in the UK to a "former" communist dictatorship with dodgy civil rights and an economy about to go belly-up, who also have nuclear weapons. I'd say the powers of logic currently engaged by leaders on both sides in the UK leave me speechless with disbelief. Metaphorically speechless, only, of course  Yours truly, Wordy Rappinghood, Angry of Tunbridge Wells. |
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24th June 2016, 02:49 PM
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The starting pistol has been fired for the contest for the new Conservative leader, and by extension, the new Prime Minister.
The current odds-on favourite at the moment, unsurprisingly, is Boris Johnson, who's 4/5 favourite on William Hill (other bookmakers are available). The next 3 favourites are: 3/1 - Theresa May 5/1 - Michael Gove 10/1 - Andrea Leadsom And Jacob Rees-Mogg is currently 33/1. |
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24th June 2016, 02:55 PM
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The only option I would be happy with is Theresa May. I'm just not sure if staying out of the fray over the course of hype referendum debate will have hurt her or not. Yes she isn't tarred with the failure of remain, but up against Boris she's a boring choice.
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24th June 2016, 02:58 PM
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Nicky Morgan said to be planning to stand, according to Sky sources. Does she stand any chance?
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24th June 2016, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Jun 24 2016, 03:49 PM) The starting pistol has been fired for the contest for the new Conservative leader, and by extension, the new Prime Minister. The current odds-on favourite at the moment, unsurprisingly, is Boris Johnson, who's 4/5 favourite on William Hill (other bookmakers are available). The next 3 favourites are: 3/1 - Theresa May 5/1 - Michael Gove 10/1 - Andrea Leadsom And Jacob Rees-Mogg is currently 33/1. Osborne 20/1 |
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24th June 2016, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 24 2016, 03:58 PM) Nicky Morgan said to be planning to stand, according to Sky sources. Does she stand any chance? She cannot answer a Maths question right, how the **** is she going to run a country. |
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24th June 2016, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(sm1ffj @ Jun 24 2016, 05:08 PM) She cannot answer a Maths question right, how the **** is she going to run a country. Hardly stopped Osbourne being in charge of the treasury |
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24th June 2016, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 24 2016, 03:58 PM) Nicky Morgan said to be planning to stand, according to Sky sources. Does she stand any chance? You mean the "Sky sources" otherwise known as her previous statements? |
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24th June 2016, 04:40 PM
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Amber Rudd please.
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24th June 2016, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ Jun 24 2016, 05:19 PM) Hardly stopped Osbourne being in charge of the treasury Hence the big balls up he has done. |
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24th June 2016, 05:20 PM
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It'll be Bozo the Clown aka Mr Blobby.
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25th June 2016, 03:22 PM
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I'm starting to think Theresa May has got this in the bag. She was very smart to stay out of the debate, therefore could be an ally to both sides of the party and a good uniting force. Coupled with her governmental experience, it's hard to see the Tories voting for someone else as their ABB candidate.
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