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> Lizzo - Special, 4th album • 15/07/22
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Juan Carlos
post 14th April 2022, 08:47 PM
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Fourth album from Lizzo called Special out July 15.
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post 12th May 2022, 09:28 PM
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Seems the title track has involvement from the legend that is Max Martin biggrin.gif
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post 10th June 2022, 06:50 AM
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She couldn't have thought of ONE word apart from sp**z for the opening verse of her latest single? She's not delivering this era at all.
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post 10th June 2022, 09:34 AM
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Wow, this is a serious misfire.

I hope it's just a grat/promo track rather than an actual single.
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post 10th June 2022, 01:41 PM
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This is easily the worst thing she's ever done for me
Agree with Josh that "s***" is a CHOICE.
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Jessie Where
post 10th June 2022, 01:56 PM
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Give me 'Boys' over 'Grrrls' any day!
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post 11th June 2022, 10:31 AM
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This was produced by Max Martin?!

Tragic.
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post 11th June 2022, 11:52 AM
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just a grat
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post 12th June 2022, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Jun 11 2022, 12:52 PM) *
just a grat

I’d delete this from my library if it was auto-downloaded in the download pre-order era laugh.gif
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post 12th June 2022, 01:12 PM
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Its a fairly catchy track, but because of the slur i don't want to listen to it and i'm not looking forward to the album much anymore. she easily could've used a different word, so unnecessary
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post 12th June 2022, 02:39 PM
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I didn't see you conplaining when they used it on your fave Rihanna's 4 5 Seconds track!!!!
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post 12th June 2022, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Skankhunt43 @ Jun 12 2022, 03:39 PM) *
I didn't see you conplaining when they used it on your fave Rihanna's 4 5 Seconds track!!!!


doesn't change the fact that she used an ableist slur in her song rolleyes.gif
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post 12th June 2022, 05:48 PM
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yeh this sucks 💀 a tad concerned for whoever thought this'd be a good showcase for the album lmao
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post 12th June 2022, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(Skankhunt43 @ Jun 12 2022, 03:39 PM) *
I didn't see you conplaining when they used it on your fave Rihanna's 4 5 Seconds track!!!!


That song was an abomination, and that's putting it kindly sick2.gif
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post 13th June 2022, 10:52 AM
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i think 'spaz' was used in a different context on 4, 5 Seconds? As in she was about to combust... not in allude to someone's disability.
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post 13th June 2022, 11:19 AM
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sp*z
/sp*z/

OFFENSIVE
noun
noun: sp*z; noun: sp*zz; plural noun: sp*zzes
short for sp*stic.

verb US
verb: sp*z; verb: sp*zz; 3rd person present: sp*zzes; past tense: sp*zzed; past participle: sp*zzed; gerund or present participle: sp*zzing
lose physical or emotional control.



The songwriters, who are almost all from the US, must have had the second definition in mind and apparently didn't think of how the word is considered as only being offensive in other countries. As noted it was also used in FourFiveSeconds. With that context in mind I would give Lizzo the benefit of the doubt that she might have been unaware of the offensive nature of the word, what with her being an American. Though it is interesting that the song got released with seemingly no one on her label/team flagging it up as an ableist slur.
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post 13th June 2022, 11:14 PM
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post 13th June 2022, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(dannjohn @ Jun 13 2022, 11:52 AM) *
i think 'spaz' was used in a different context on 4, 5 Seconds? As in she was about to combust... not in allude to someone's disability.


I'm pretty sure it is the exact same context in both songs (i.e. the second definition posted by Jay above).

Perhaps someone on her team should have been aware of the other more offensive meaning of the word to pre-emptively avoid the backlash but I'd be pretty confident saying there wasn't any bad intent behind her use of the word here - that's cool that she has acknowledged and responded to the people calling it out anyway though.
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post 14th June 2022, 06:47 AM
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are they gonna redo the vinyls? smile.gif sure they were already printed
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post 14th June 2022, 08:00 AM
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Yeah, they’re out in a month so will already be printed. Not a lot they can do about that though.
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