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post 15th January 2023, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE(dromeda @ Jan 7 2023, 08:57 PM) *
From my point of view they should have ended things decently. Why change styles if they knew the group was breaking up? Here in Brazil there is a saying: Don't mess with a winning team. They had it all, the only thing they were supposed to do was the same old stuff. They should have released a third pop album, two or three singles and played a few shows, a short European tour and done. They should have released Woman as a celebration single, the clip would have shown their entire trajectory. Holler's pop version should be very interesting and would make a great second single. A documentary to wrap things up where they would do an assessment of everything they've achieved, everything about Geri's departure and her importance in the group, backstage of the last tour and of course the official release of the last show. At the end they could oficially take a break and then venture into solos. The fans would have understood and the solos would have received more support. Their legacy would have been much better. There was a lack of intelligence at that time.

The fact is that this lack of intelligence has lasted until today. The 2019 tour should have officially been released on streaming, Netflix.. whatever. We should have a box full of unreleased songs, demos, good remixes and the relaunch of the old shows. But, of course, this would never happen to the best girl group in history, right? I don't think we'll ever get to a full circle.


Obviously, they weren’t planning to split up when they got back on August 1999 to start working on the third album. They didn’t realize that Mel C’s priorities have shifted until spring 2000 when she started to record on her own time instead joining the girls. They just didn’t have a concrete plan of what to do next and how bad Forever was going to be received by the end of the year. That’s when Mel C and Victoria decided to pull the plug on the group activities.

Honestly, one of reasons that they flopped was that they spent too much time on it and in pop world that’s a mistake. Fans have moved on to Britney, Xtina, BSB and *NSYNC by then. Had they released it by November 1999, the outcome may have been very different. And we might not be blaming on Forever’s change of direction now.
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post 15th January 2023, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Babyboy @ Jan 11 2023, 09:30 PM) *
Melanie C said in her bio that Virgin was not sure about a third single from NS.


At the Brits 2000 (in February that year), the Emma mentioned in this interview that they didn't know when the album was going to be released either so I don't think they had anything planned at all by early 2000s. Maybe they were still waiting for Mel C's solo stuff to finish then, as she was also not quite setting the charts alight back then. There is no way they would have released in Spring 2000 though, if they had not planned by early 2000 to do that, as the group's stuff takes longer to prep for than solo stuff.



They also mention in this interview that them and Geri were going in different paths, and clearly since Geri was doing high camp pop music, they wanted to demark themselves from that, otherwise the press would eat them alive (which they did anyway!).

There are two major events that contributed to the girls not releasing new music in 1999: babies and Mel C's solo album. Glad for Mel that her music took off (for that album at least) but it did absolutely take from the girls. I've never been able to fully love Northern Star precisely because of this.


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post 15th January 2023, 04:45 PM
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Forever simply wasn't ready for a 1999 release. It has nothing to do with Northern Star. Virgin had no problem to release Mel B's album one month before Forever.
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post 15th January 2023, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Jan 15 2023, 04:45 PM) *
Forever simply wasn't ready for a 1999 release. It has nothing to do with Northern Star. Virgin had no problem to release Mel B's album one month before Forever.


It had everything to do with Northern Star too as Mel C was busy focusing on it. Virgin did not want to release Hot before Forever, that was Mel B who insisted on it (and she even admitted it many times!).

Plus, they had enough material ready including the pop songs, by October 1999.


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post 15th January 2023, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jan 15 2023, 12:37 PM) *
At the Brits 2000 (in February that year), the Emma mentioned in this interview that they didn't know when the album was going to be released either so I don't think they had anything planned at all by early 2000s. Maybe they were still waiting for Mel C's solo stuff to finish then, as she was also not quite setting the charts alight back then. There is no way they would have released in Spring 2000 though, if they had not planned by early 2000 to do that, as the group's stuff takes longer to prep for than solo stuff.



They also mention in this interview that them and Geri were going in different paths, and clearly since Geri was doing high camp pop music, they wanted to demark themselves from that, otherwise the press would eat them alive (which they did anyway!).

There are two major events that contributed to the girls not releasing new music in 1999: babies and Mel C's solo album. Glad for Mel that her music took off (for that album at least) but it did absolutely take from the girls. I've never been able to fully love Northern Star precisely because of this.



I disagree 1999 was simply not viable purely because of Melanie B and Victoria needing to take time off for babies and the album not being ready. Melanie was clearly prepared to juggle both solo and group at this point as she did the Christmas tour and also recorded My strongest suit which she said she thought they should release. In fact Northern Star wouldn't even exist were it not for the two girls getting pregnant in the first place as she wanted to continue with group stuff in 1998. I should thank them really because I rate Northern Star above Spice and Forever in all honesty.
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post 15th January 2023, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(spiceboy @ Jan 15 2023, 05:01 PM) *
I disagree 1999 was simply not viable purely because of Melanie B and Victoria needing to take time off for babies and the album not being ready. Melanie was clearly prepared to juggle both solo and group at this point as she did the Christmas tour and also recorded My strongest suit which she said she thought they should release. In fact Northern Star wouldn't even exist were it not for the two girls getting pregnant in the first place as she wanted to continue with group stuff in 1998. I should thank them really because I rate Northern Star above Spice and Forever in all honesty.


The babies were born before the recording for the group's album started in summer 1999. sorry but it was Mel C who didn't want to be a Spice Girl at that stage and wanted to just do the solo work. Whilst she was doing the Chirstmas shows and Brits, etc, she wanted to prioritise her solo stuff and this was mentioned by herself over the years. Not shaming anyone, it is what it is...

I would trade every single solo song or album released by any of them for group music. Even if I think Northern Star, Free Me and Life in Mono are incredible albums. Woudl trade them all for a single new song released by the group lol
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