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post Dec 5 2021, 03:22 PM
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While 800k is pretty good for a snooker semi-final in this day and age, it's hard not to think of it in the context of the figures it once got.
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post Dec 11 2021, 03:50 PM
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F1 final will be broadcast on C4 after a deal with Sky, seems like it could get a pretty hefty rating.
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post Dec 13 2021, 01:02 PM
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6.5m overnight for the IAC final. Absolutely dreadful by it's high standards.

13.1m for Boris's narcissism broadcast.

4.3m C4 peak for F1 final.
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post Dec 13 2021, 01:54 PM
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Disappointing ratings for I'm a celebrity, strictly really showing its power as the long standing reality show.
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post Dec 13 2021, 02:49 PM
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Wow that's a huge drop for IAC compared to last year / its usual standard although I'm not too surprised considering the general reception, I think people are ready for a jungle return now.

Also from yesterday - that new Simon Cowell show Walk The Line got 3 million viewers and Strictly Results Show 9.8 million - looking forward to seeing what the final of the latter will achieve this weekend, there's a lot of goodwill surrounding the quality of the finalists.
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post Dec 13 2021, 03:00 PM
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Starmer will address nation tonight.

Gonna be mighty embarassing if that beats Boris
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post Dec 13 2021, 03:12 PM
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eeek at walk the line
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post Dec 13 2021, 06:24 PM
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Doctor WhoSeries 13

Overnights / 7 Days

Episode 1 - 4.43m - 5.81m
Episode 2 - 3.96m - 5.02m
Episode 3 - 3.76m - 4.60m
Episode 4 - 3.45m - 4.51m
Episode 5 - 3.82m - 4.73m
Episode 6 - 3.58m - 4.61m

The uptick for the last two episodes points to a sizeable minority catching up
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post Dec 15 2021, 03:49 PM
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Season 39 of Doctor Who also known as Season One of Doctor 'We Know All About You' is currently on course to be the third worst rated series of the show and the worst rated of the entire new series.

11.21m - Season 17
11.08m - Season 14
10.46m - Season 2
10.14m - Season 13
10.00m - Season 12
09.24m - Season 19
08.98m - Season 15
08.87m - Season 10
08.78m - Season 11
08.61m - Season 15
08.30m - Season 9
08.08m - Season 1
08.05m - Season 30 (Series 4)
07.96m - Season 8
07.96m - Season 37 (Series 11)
07.95m - Season 27 (Series 1)
07.73m - Season 31 (Series 5)
07.71m - Season 28 (Series 2)
07.65m - Season 3
07.55m - Season 29 (Series 3)
07.52m - Season 32 (Series 6)
07.44m - Season 33 (Series 7)
07.26m - Season 34 (Series 8)
07.23m - Season 5
07.17m - Season 7
07.14m - Season 21
07.12m - Season 22
07.10m - Season 4
07.03m - Season 20
06.38m - Season 5
06.03m - Season 35 (Series 9)
05.82m - Season 18
05.46m - Season 36 (Series 10)
05.40m - Season 38 (Series 12)
05.34m - Season 25
04.94m - Season 24
04.88m - Season 39 (Series 14)
04.81m - Season 23
04.15m - Season 26

If the BBC genuinely want to save Doctor Who it needs some creative scheduling, the next series could stay on a Sunday night with it being surrounded by hits. If we assume it's coming back in 2023 early in the year then maybe:

18.00 - News
18.25 - [Popular Game Show maybe House of Games/The Wheel]
19.10 - Doctor Who
20.00 - Call The Midwife
21.00 - Line of Duty

They could even show Classic Who as a lead in to the main show instead of the game show, trying to entice older viewers to stick around for the new version.


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post Dec 15 2021, 05:07 PM
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They’re not going to revolve their entire annual schedule around Doctor Who laugh.gif

It doesn’t really make a difference anyway as this series led into Strictly aka the BBC’s most reliable and popular entertainment show. Less people are watching a show on the specific timeslot, I remember discussion for other series that the actual ‘live’ viewers who watched it as it aired was at least 1m less than the overnights.
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post Dec 15 2021, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Santa Klaus @ Dec 15 2021, 05:07 PM) *
They’re not going to revolve their entire annual schedule around Doctor Who laugh.gif

It doesn’t really make a difference anyway as this series led into Strictly aka the BBC’s most reliable and popular entertainment show. Less people are watching a show on the specific timeslot, I remember discussion for other series that the actual ‘live’ viewers who watched it as it aired was at least 1m less than the overnights.


Why shouldn't they cater their schedule to one of their longest running and biggest flagship shows to avoid it getting embarrassing ratings and flopping? The show is a British institution (well was until the 13th doctor). If they don't do something it could quickly end up the embarrassment it became in the 80s.

I wasn't suggesting they move their entire schedule around Doctor Who, I was suggetsing they move Series 14 around their annual schedule. Call the Midwife is scheduled for January in 2022 anyway so a year later would seem reasonable as January 2023. Line of Duty isn't due to be on screen til 2023 and you'd imagine they'd one to get it out around then anyway.

Putting Doctor Who in that sort of slot. It led into the Strictly results though, which consistently underrates the main show.

It seems like cancellation is within grasp for with those Season 39 figures, if Season 40 is anywhere near as bad. And let's be honest that wouldn't be the worst thing - I ended up watching this series on iplayer after it had finished - the first time I've not watched episodes live when I've had the option since the show came back on air and that's largely to do with the timeless children bollocks.
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post Dec 15 2021, 05:37 PM
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Not to mention that it doesn't need "saving" in the first place...! Comparing to almost 60 years of ratings is entirely pointless. The BBC are not going to cancel the show that's been their biggest (non-soap) drama for the past 6 weeks laugh.gif
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post Dec 15 2021, 05:52 PM
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There’s sooo many factors to think of in scheduling. Call the Midwife and the BBC One Line of Duty series have outrated all new series of Doctor Who so you would be overshadowing the series and drowning it out amongst hype for those shows. You want the show to be, if possible, the focus of the day. Strictly’s results show does lower than the Saturday show but it’s still over 8m and amongst the highest on TV now. Also, schedulers aren’t going to out all their high profile shows for the year on one night - they’re going to space them out and use them as a springboard for new shows.

This is literally the worst time to talk about cancellation as we know the show is lasting until at least 2024. How many other dramas get to say that? If it was in so much danger then this is a perfect end point for the show with the departure of the main cast and the producers. Instead, they’ve asked for an additional episode and creating a whole new springboard for the show from 2023. RTD is so passionate about the show that he wouldn’t want to be the person who revived it and then killed it again laugh.gif
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post Dec 15 2021, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(JosephCarey @ Dec 15 2021, 05:37 PM) *
Not to mention that it doesn't need "saving" in the first place...! Comparing to almost 60 years of ratings is entirely pointless. The BBC are not going to cancel the show that's been their biggest (non-soap) drama for the past 6 weeks laugh.gif


It's not pointless, it gives context to where the show stands against hits own history, and as it's one of the few shows were able to do this with it's pretty good to do. Even if you narrow it down to Seasons 27-39/Series 1-13, you soon see that it's comfortably the lowest rated new series.

QUOTE(Santa Klaus @ Dec 15 2021, 05:52 PM) *
There’s sooo many factors to think of in scheduling. Call the Midwife and the BBC One Line of Duty series have outrated all new series of Doctor Who so you would be overshadowing the series and drowning it out amongst hype for those shows. You want the show to be, if possible, the focus of the day. Strictly’s results show does lower than the Saturday show but it’s still over 8m and amongst the highest on TV now. Also, schedulers aren’t going to out all their high profile shows for the year on one night - they’re going to space them out and use them as a springboard for new shows.

This is literally the worst time to talk about cancellation as we know the show is lasting until at least 2024. How many other dramas get to say that? If it was in so much danger then this is a perfect end point for the show with the departure of the main cast and the producers. Instead, they’ve asked for an additional episode and creating a whole new springboard for the show from 2023. RTD is so passionate about the show that he wouldn’t want to be the person who revived it and then killed it again laugh.gif


Of the new who doctors who've played more than one series*:


Tennant gained 0.34m viewers - or increased by 4.41%
Smith lost 0.47m viewers in his era or decreased by 6.08%
Capaldi lost 1.80m viewers in his era or decreased by 24.79%
Whittaker's lost 3.08m viewers in her era or decreased by 38.69%

(Using regularly series*) - If that doesn't show you the state of the show at the moment nothing will.

Also why RTD certainly won't want to kill the shows, he's got a difficult job in avoiding doing so.


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post Dec 15 2021, 08:04 PM
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No it won’t because it’s all comparative! Jodie had higher to fall from than Capaldi, ratings across the board are largely in a different place and it’s performing similarly on the weekly charts in terms of position. I’m not blinded that it’s not at it’s peak and that it could be doing better but it’s a drama that’s soon celebrating 60 years and has been on for 16 years in it’s current iteration, outlasting hundreds of shows during that time. It’s extremely rare for a drama to maintain high ratings. I think dramas like Silent Witness, Call the Midwife and Death in Paradise are the only ones really coming to mind but none of them have ever played a real part in pop culture.

The ones in charge of actually making the decision have ordered an additional episode to be one of the centrepieces of their 100th birthday celebrations as well as preparing plans for the show for at least up to three more years. That’s a huge showing of confidence in the show. It just makes little sense to be so concerned at this stage in light of the BBC’s continued confidence in it. They’re literally making the decision, not anyone else laugh.gif
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post Dec 27 2021, 01:52 PM
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Ratings are pretty low all round this Christmas, however that might have something to do with a 4 day bank holiday. Walked past a few pubs over the past few days and they were busier than any time I've seen them in the whole pandemic. I guess people prioritising things that might soon be taken away from them over Christmas.


8.96m for the Queens Speech winning the day. 5.78m for Strictly second.

ITV's highest entry being 3.25m for Corrie (overnights) in 8th.

ITV deffo need a rethink next year....


Perhaps something like:

5.30pm News
6.00pm Emmerdale
7.00pm - Coronation Street
8.00pm - Ant and Decs Christmas Takeaway
9.30pm - Who Wants to Be A Millionaire At Christmas
10.30pm - News


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