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 24th April 2017, 06:48 PM
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Lmao at Funky Dory being your top Rachek Stevens cd!! You don't listen to that still??
Also River Song's figurine looks like one of an Estonian prostitute. |
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24th April 2017, 06:50 PM
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River Song definitely looks off
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24th April 2017, 06:51 PM
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Oh and just because:
Series 2 (Tennant and Rose were the ultimate pair for me, and nearly every episode (two very obvious exceptions aside) is amazing and that final double bill omg) Series 3 (The Dalek two parter aside, this was mainly great across the board) Series 4 (Still not a fan of Donna rlly, but it was a high quality series in general) Series 1 (Has aged really well for what it is and Eccleston really was a great Doctor that should've stayed longer) Series 9 (The best in a long time actually, the Clara/Doctor stuff wasn't as in your face and there were some real standout episodes) Series 5 (Matt Smith is the clear weak link in the three Doctors I've seen alas so this was when I started losing interest, it was a decent series, but felt a bit of a letdown after four) Series 7 (Had it's moments, but a bit sub-par/unmemorable and too much Clara) Series 6 (Wayyy too much of that River Song bollocks, I'm still not entirely sure what the point of all of it was) Series 8 (Just a very unmemorable series, a glance at the episodes shows I'd go back to about three of them about a push, they got Capaldi really wrong here in retrospect) I'm not gonna try and deny my bias here, the first four series were some of the best TV I'd seen and it was compulsive viewing. It hasn't lost me yet though despite varying quality over the years. This post has been edited by Chez Wombat: 24th April 2017, 06:51 PM |
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24th April 2017, 06:52 PM
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 you never forget your first time...
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Ooh Froot, you've reminded me to mention that I'll also be taking time to talk about SJA, as well as Torchwood and Class, along the countdown, and talk about the best and worst story from each
 QUOTE(Tippin Virginia @ Apr 24 2017, 07:48 PM)  Lmao at Funky Dory being your top Rachek Stevens cd!! You don't listen to that still?? Also River Song's figurine looks like one of an Estonian prostitute. ! I've not played the album since 2012 according to my last.fm x River Song's figure is terrible, the hair looks like a wig  they fixed it a bit on later editions though :')
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24th April 2017, 06:55 PM
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you never forget your first time...
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Apr 24 2017, 07:50 PM) River Song definitely looks off Love all the classic characters there as well though!! Unfortunately they've not made many of the classic companions  would love for them to at least make a few more so Hartnell, Troughton and McGann can have someone
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24th April 2017, 07:17 PM
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Voyage of the Damned >>>>>>>
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24th April 2017, 08:52 PM
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1. Series 4
2. Series 2 3. Series 3 4. Series 6 5. Series 1 6. Series 7 7. Series 9 8. Series 5 9. Series 8 I've done this very quickly - each series varies wildly from episode to episode so if I properly thought about it, I'd be here forever. But generally, this is a good indicator. I thought Series 9 really was very strong but it's perhaps too early to rank it any higher than this. |
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24th April 2017, 09:20 PM
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you never forget your first time...
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 103 Nightmare in Silver Series 7, Episode 12 Doctor: Eleventh Companion: Clara Oswald Nightmare in Silver sees the Doctor and Clara take Angie and Artie, the kids Clara babysits, on a trip in the TARDIS to a theme park in space. The park is closed down when they arrive, and they run into a man called Webley, who shows him his collection of alien artefacts, including deactivated harmless Cybermen. Instead of going home, the Doctor opts to investigate some small silver insects, which turn out to be Cybermites that reactivate the Cybermen, who then partially convert Webley, Angie and Artie. After an attack from the Cybermen, the Doctor puts Clara in charge of the troops on site, as they are revealed to be incompetent, sent out as a punishment, while he goes to rescue Angie and Artie. To save them, the Doctor is partially upgraded himself, and opts to play a chess match with the "Cyber-Planner" in his mind. The army struggle to fight off the Cybermen, who are newly upgraded themselves and can repair problems immediately, but Clara and the troops' lives are spared as the Cyber-Planner uses the resources of the entire army to help it win the chess match, therefore rendering the army useless. The Doctor uses a hand pulser to remove the Cyber-Planner, and Clara rejoins him. A worker on the site called Porridge is recognised by Angie as the emperor, after she saw his picture in Webley's museum, and they are transported to a nearby ship before a bomb blows up the millions of Cybermen on the planet. The issue with this is that the actual Cybermen don't feel totally utilised. The chess match takes up a lot of the time and it's ultimately pointless when neither the Doctor nor the Cyber-Planner actually win it. The new Cybermen are interesting but as of yet, I don't think they've had a proper chance to shine. In fact I don't think the Moffat era's utilised the Cybermen well at all, but more on that later. Ultimately this is one that just doesn't really work for me. |
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24th April 2017, 09:28 PM
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Yeah the Cyberman were not utilised well in this episode at all
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24th April 2017, 09:29 PM
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The problem with the new Cybermen is that the fact they can constantly upgrade to defeat a weakness means that they themselves are completely undefeatable. It means that we're left with bad solutions in both 'Nightmare im Silver' and the Series 8 two parter.
'Nightmare in Silver' was quite a mess of an episode and was similar to 'Dinosaurs on a Spaceship' in that there were two many secondary characters. The kids in particular were AWFUL, both horrendously written and acted. So pleased that they never returned! The plot itself had so much potential, with it being on this old theme park world but it just became so dull & dry, especially when it resulted in a game of chess. |
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24th April 2017, 09:35 PM
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Yeah the Nightmare In Silver was an absolute mess :/ Placing the two kids at the centre of the episodes was an awful idea.
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24th April 2017, 09:36 PM
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electric butterflies
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Nightmare in Silver *poop emoji*
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24th April 2017, 09:45 PM
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The owls are not what they seem
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In general, they haven't really done the Cybermen justice since new Who in the same way as the Daleks, that one is definitely a glaring example of that. They may as well not have been there for how much impact they actually had :/
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24th April 2017, 09:48 PM
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electric butterflies
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After all of this time I think it's very hard to make the Daleks or the Cyberman a convincing threat. The last time the Cybermen were properly used, they played a crap second fiddle to Missy (which tbf, pretty much ANY villain would.)
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24th April 2017, 09:55 PM
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I didn't even BOTHER watching that episode. Missed a lot of that crap season tbh.
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24th April 2017, 09:57 PM
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didn't like that episode either. the kids were pointless and awful and whilst Matt Smith did a good job of playing the two sides of the doctor that part did drag, and there have been better cyberman episodes.
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24th April 2017, 10:02 PM
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you never forget your first time...
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I think the last time I felt the Cybermen were particularly well utilised was Army of Ghosts / Doomsday
although the short sequence of the one-armed Cyberman chasing Amy in The Pandorica Opens was pretty cool. The difference between any of the others since then, and Nightmare in Silver, is the surrounding plot. It's just messy in this one sadly.
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24th April 2017, 11:50 PM
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 102 The Rings of Akhaten Series 7, Episode 7 Doctor: Eleventh Companion: Clara Oswald Froot asked and he (eventually) received  The Rings of Akhaten sees Clara's first proper outing in the TARDIS, so he takes her to an alien marketplace on the Rings of Akhaten, where they can observe a series of planetoids orbiting a planet, with a pyramid on one of them. Clara learns that the currency in this marketplace is "sentimental items", which appalls Clara at first. She gets separated from the Doctor and bumps into a little girl, Merry Galel, the Queen of Years, who is running away because she has to sing a song at a ceremony and is afraid of getting it wrong. After offering some words of comfort to her, Merry heads to the ceremony. The Doctor and Clara attend the ceremony, where the Doctor explains that a constant song is sung to keep an angry god asleep. As Merry sings, a beam of light envelopes her and she is pulled towards the pyramid ahead by an awakening mummy. The Doctor and Clara buy a space moped from the marketplace, using Clara's mother's ring as payment, and head to the pyramid. As they try to leave the pyramid with Merry, a group of creatures called the Vigil arrive. The Doctor manages to hold them in place long enough for Clara and Merry to escape the throne room, but the mummy breaks free and is revealed to be Akhaten itself. The Doctor faces the creature when he arrives back at the ceremony, realising it feeds off feelings and memories, and tries to overfeed it with the amount of Time Lord memories he has. This doesn't work, so Clara offers Akhaten the leaf that led to her parents meeting for the first time, and Akhaten implodes on itself with the amount of infinite potential it had, due to her mother's death when Clara was a teenager.I had to look up a lot of this plotline as it's not an episode I've rewatched a great deal, and I found it pretty hard to condense the summary into a smaller paragraph strangely. Despite the fact there's a lot going on, it weirdly feels like the episode never really GOES anywhere. The threat never feels totally realised, and whilst it's good to learn some of Clara's backstory, the fact a simple leaf can overpower the Doctor's hundreds of years of memories feels ultimately very silly. There's not really much of a supporting cast to invest in either - it has the exact opposite problem to Dinosaurs on a Spaceship - and there's not much of a plot to make up for this. I'm not even sure there's much I could suggest to improve it really, just a pretty weak episode overall. |
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25th April 2017, 01:30 AM
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That was AWFUL. Another love saves the day. Ugh.
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25th April 2017, 01:33 AM
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What an atrocious episode. It was laughably awful and one of the worst solutions they've ever had in Doctor Who.
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