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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ YTD T40 Albums (with estimated sales)
Posted by: vidcapper 11th January 2020, 07:40 AM
V2 :
YTD Sales : Please read these guidelines before you request sales estimates, it makes my task a lot easier.
1. Be specific - please name the artist and title for each entry you'd like an estimate for.
2. I log sales for all albums that have charted this year, but only update those that have sold enough to reach my 200 position tracking range
3. If an album isn't in the current Top 100, I won't be able to update its sales until Tues. Also, please don't ask about ex-T100 albums too often - once a month at most)
4. Remember to check the thread before requesting estimates - they may already have been answered. Also, no more than half-a-dozen requests at a time, thanks.
5. Please note my figures are combined sales & streams, and since I have no way of separating them, I cannot provide a split.
6. While I am no longer estimating singles sales, I can provide YTD singles positions from C+, and I am still maintaining my sales archive based on published figures (PM me if you want to see it)
Thank you.
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Albums
Pos - LW - YTD - Total - Artist - Title - New - Hst
1 - 2 - 39,750 - 128,000 - Stormzy - Heavy Is The Head - 26/12/19 - 1
2 - 1 - 39,500 - 680,500 - Lewis Capaldi - Divinely Uninspired To A Hellish Extent - 30/05/19 - 1
3 - 4 - 22,250 - 590,500 - Ed Sheeran - No 6 Collaborations Project - 25/07/19 - 3
4 - 5 - 20,750 - 90,250 - Harry Styles - Fine Line - 20/12/19 - 4
5 - 3 - 19,500 - 255,750 - Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart - 05/12/19 - 3
6 - 6 - 18,250 - 388,000 - Billie Eilish - When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? - 11/04/19 - 5
7 - 7 - 14,250 - 210,000 - Coldplay - Everyday Life - 05/12/19 - 7
8 - 8 - 12,750 - 183,250 - Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together - 21/11/19 - 8
9 - 10 - 12,750 - 282,250 - Tom Walker - What A Time To Be Alive - 14/03/19 - 8
10 - 9 - 12,250 - 12,250 - D-Block Europe - Street Trauma - 09/01/20 - 9
11 - 14 - 9,750 - 185,500 - Post Malone - Hollywood's Bleeding - 19/09/19 - 9
12 - 11 - 9,000 - 140,250 - Westlife - Spectrum - 28/11/19 - 11
13 - 12 - 8,750 - 2,045,500 - Queen - Greatest Hits - 07/11/81 - 12
14 - 13 - 8,750 - 495,500 - Elton John - Diamonds - 23/11/17 - 13
15 - 16 - 8,250 - 271,500 - Billie Eilish - Don't Smile At Me - 19/07/18 - 13
16 - 18 - 7,750 - 3,457,250 - Ed Sheeran - ÷ - 16/03/17 - 15
17 - 15 - 7,250 - 81,500 - The Who - Who - 19/12/19 - 15
18 - 17 - 7,000 - 1,707,500 - Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - 26/02/77 - 17
19 - 19 - 6,750 - 149,750 - Liam Gallagher - Why Me? Why Not. - 03/10/19 - 19
20 - 22 - 6,750 - 330,250 - Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop - 29/11/18 - 18
21 - 20 - 6,750 - 52,000 - Cliff Richard and The Shadows - The Best of the Rock 'N' Roll Pioneers - 12/12/19 - 20
22 - 21 - 6,500 - 84,000 - Andre Rieu and the Johann Strauss Orchestra - Happy Days - 05/12/19 - 21
23 - 23 - 6,250 - 120,500 - Sam Fender - Hypersonic Missiles - 26/09/19 - 20
24 - 40 - 6,000 - 17,500 - Roddy Ricch - Please Excuse Me For Being Antisocial - 19/12/19 - 17
25 - 25 - 6,000 - 160,250 - Taylor Swift - Lover - 05/09/19 - 23
26 - 27 - 6,000 - 1,029,250 - George Ezra - Staying At Tamara's - 05/04/18 - 27
27 - 28 - 5,750 - 26,750 - Camila Cabello - Romance - 19/12/19 - 28
28 - 24 - 5,750 - 2,252,250 - Queen - Greatest Hits I, II & III (Platinum Coll.) - 25/11/00 - 24
29 - 35 - 5,500 - 79,500 - Mabel - High Expectations - 15/08/19 - 29
30 - 38 - 5,500 - 570,250 - Dua Lipa - Dua Lipa - 15/06/17 - 24
31 - 26 - 5,500 - 63,250 - James Blunt - Once Upon A Mind - 07/11/19 - 26
32 - 36 - 5,500 - 79,250 - D-Block Europe - PTSD - 10/10/19 - 31
33 - 32 - 5,250 - 85,500 - Lana Del Rey - Norman f***ing Rothwell - 12/09/19 - 32
34 - 42 - 5,250 - 135,000 - Jax Jones - Snacks - 17/01/19 - 32
35 - 34 - 5,000 - 4,914,500 - Abba - Gold - Greatest Hits - 03/10/92 - 34
36 - 37 - 5,000 - 298,250 - Ariana Grande - Thank U, Next - 21/02/19 - 37
37 - 43 - 5,000 - 50,500 - Kidz Bop Kids - Kidz Bop 2020 - 28/11/19 - 33
38 - 33 - 5,000 - 1,218,500 - George Michael - Twenty Five - 25/11/06 - 33
39 - 31 - 5,000 - 68,750 - Script - Sunsets & Full Moons - 21/11/19 - 31
40 - 50 - 4,750 - 38,500 - Becky Hill - Get To Know - 10/10/19 - 35
Surely Stormzy's only week at YTD #1...
Posted by: vidcapper 12th January 2020, 09:04 AM
I've been doing a rough & ready calculation on the rate of % decrease in album sales after week 1...
Week 1-2 : -60% (3/5ths)
Week 2-3 : -30% (3/10ths)
Week 3-4 : -20% (1/5th)
Week 4-5 : -17% (1/6th)
There's a lot a variation depending on artist/genre etc, but those seem to be a reasonable average decline.
Regards,
Posted by: GTH 12th January 2020, 11:07 AM
Double Fleetwood Mac already! I suspect as the album market declines, the top 100 list will end up filled with more greatest hits/classic albums year on year. Hopefully we do get some albums this year that generate enough sustained interest to be a consistent seller over time. Bar Lewis and Billie, I don’t think any others from last year could end up as a classic people are still investing in years down the line.
Interesting about the decline %, thanks for sharing vid.
Do you collate any sales data for the compilation chart? Was wondering if you had any estimated sales for the Frozen 1 soundtrack? No problem if not.
Posted by: vidcapper 12th January 2020, 02:25 PM
Interesting about the decline %, thanks for sharing vid.
Do you collate any sales data for the compilation chart? Was wondering if you had any estimated sales for the Frozen 1 soundtrack? No problem if not.
Alas I have no regular source of info for the compilation chart.
Posted by: vidcapper 14th January 2020, 07:25 AM
Updated to T40
Posted by: SKOB 14th January 2020, 07:49 AM
Shame that we can't keep track on TGS, ASIB and Frozen.
Posted by: jimwatts 14th January 2020, 08:14 AM
Lewis's debut, the biggest seller of last year, has (surely) only this week outsold Four by One Direction which at 682k was the 100th biggest seller of the 2010s.
Posted by: jimwatts 14th January 2020, 08:20 AM
Speaking of which, OCC published the https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-uks-official-top-20-biggest-debut-albums-of-2019__28105/ - Lewis is (obviously) top, but look who made number 20 - unbelievable, Jeff!
Posted by: vidcapper 14th January 2020, 09:06 AM
Yes, what happened to them?
Posted by: Steve201 14th January 2020, 09:44 AM
Always weird seeing the album sales again in January but interesting further down seeing the totals. Could be a long year of low sales unless Adele comes along but I suspect even she may find it tough in this market.
Posted by: Robbie 14th January 2020, 10:06 AM
Posted by: vidcapper 14th January 2020, 12:57 PM
Ah, I always thought including them was a mistake.
Posted by: SKOB 14th January 2020, 01:25 PM
All that are not credited for George Michael and Wham, that is
It doesn't make any sense that that album was eligible but ASIB/Bohemian Rhapsody was not.
Posted by: Bjork 14th January 2020, 01:55 PM
It doesn't make any sense that that album was eligible but ASIB/Bohemian Rhapsody was not.
Bohemian Rhapsody is credited to Queen
I guess that if released now, ASIB would be credited to Gaga/Cooper and then allowed in the main chart
Posted by: Robbie 14th January 2020, 01:56 PM
It doesn't make any sense that that album was eligible but ASIB/Bohemian Rhapsody was not.
Posted by: Robbie 14th January 2020, 02:03 PM
I guess that if released now, ASIB would be credited to Gaga/Cooper and then allowed in the main chart
For 'A Star Is Born' the label would have to convince the OCC it was a Lady GaGa and Bradley Cooper album. But there are two tracks, one instrumental, one featuring other casts members, on which neither appear.
From the Albums Definition Summary part of the Albums Chart Rules:
4. A Cast Recording is defined as a recording featuring the voice(s) of an artist or artists performing a role for which they were first cast for the purposes of a stage, film or TV production
5. Artist Album Chart includes single artist compilations, single orchestra recordings and albums that feature the same performing artist on 100% of tracks
6. Where a cast recording is produced and marketed as an artist studio album, a label may request that the cast recording appear in the Official Artist Albums Chart. The decision shall strictly subject to Official Charts and/or CSC approval.
Posted by: SKOB 14th January 2020, 02:32 PM
So theoretically an Adele album featuring one instrumental track could be excluded from album chart? 
Posted by: Bjork 14th January 2020, 03:21 PM
it all depends on how strict they are when implementing the rules
but it's funny they're so scrupulous now when a few months back they accepted anything in the album charts
like that Moana soundtrack should have never been accepted as a Cast album when there were songs by people that was not in the cast
Posted by: vidcapper 14th January 2020, 03:31 PM
Only if she was not credited, presumably.
Posted by: Bré 14th January 2020, 03:36 PM
For 'A Star Is Born' the label would have to convince the OCC it was a Lady GaGa and Bradley Cooper album. But there are two tracks, one instrumental, one featuring other casts members, on which neither appear.
The disappearance of 'Bohemian Rhapsody' was just because the OCC ceased crediting the songs' streaming numbers to that album a while back, it's still hanging around on the album sales chart at #82 (and did have one further week re-entering the main albums chart at #100 after its abrupt disappearance from #19). I think streams are ostensibly meant to count towards the compilation that has the highest pure sales in any given week but whatever they did with Queen's streams looks like it was pretty arbitrary - the last week that 'Bohemian Rhapsody' was hanging on at #19, it was already no longer their highest or even their second highest selling compilation, it was behind both 'The Platinum Collection' and 'Greatest Hits' on pure sales. And then it appears that when 'Bohemian Rhapsody' fell off, its streaming numbers were transferred to 'Greatest Hits' (which re-entered at #24), with 'The Platinum Collection' also seeing a boost from #51 to #37 which may or may not be unrelated. That despite the fact 'The Platinum Collection' was actually their highest selling compilation of both that week and the previous week.
In summary: streaming sales for compilation albums are a mess.
The OCC insisting on crediting ASIB as a cast recording is also pretty arbitrary, especially as the album is clearly tagged as being by Gaga & Bradley on both download and streaming platforms. There does exist a version of the album where the songs are padded out by dialogue tracks, a couple of which do feature neither artist, but there is also a version of the album available that doesn't have the dialogue tracks and on that version Gaga and/or Bradley are present (and credited) on every track.
In practice the OCC clearly aren't strict on the 'artist has to appear on every song' rule (once again proving that the OCC's rules are largely for show and they absolutely shouldn't be taken as gospel to the letter). Drake has at least 2 albums that contain songs where he doesn't appear at all and they were both allowed with no problems.
Posted by: SKOB 14th January 2020, 06:01 PM
With rap albums that rule might indeed be a problem. Many albums have skits by other people, Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP comes to mind.
Posted by: Bré 14th January 2020, 06:06 PM
Yes, it'd be a problem... if the OCC enforced it consistently, which they don't
Posted by: SKOB 14th January 2020, 06:09 PM
Kings of making rules they don't follow!
Posted by: SKOB 17th January 2020, 08:50 AM
So there are songs performed by Alanis Morissette and Dominic Fike on Halsey's album. Will it be excluded from the album chart?!
Posted by: Bjork 17th January 2020, 09:20 AM
lol what about listening to the album and then commenting?
the Alanis interlude is sung by Halsey mainly and at some point Alanis jumps in the song
it's not an Alanis solo song lol
haven't heard the Dominic thing, but judging by the timing it's just a short interlude,
unlike the Alanis interlude which is more like a proper song
interludes have been featured in albums all thru history
Posted by: Bré 17th January 2020, 12:01 PM
No, because as established that rule is for show and not literal xx
'Dominic's Interlude' is the only song Halsey doesn't appear on as far as I can tell (from looking it up on Genius, I am not wasting my time listening to a Halsey album x), but it's still credited to her. Much like the 'Skepta Interlude' on Drake's 'More Life' which was a solo Skepta track but Skepta wasn't even given a featured credit on it so as far as official records go it counts as a Drake song.
Posted by: Bjork 17th January 2020, 12:40 PM
was just rebuking a post, not making a post about the album,
I did the scientific thing, check one of the interludes which the poster said didn't have Halsey, and she was on it
so post rebuked no need to listen to the other one 
Posted by: Esmerelda 17th January 2020, 02:07 PM
I guess Paloma Faith's Architect album would now be ineligible as there are 3 tracks she doesn't appear on at all.
Posted by: vidcapper 17th January 2020, 02:49 PM
Except it hasn't charted since last Apr anyway, and didn't make the Y/E T200 by my calculations.
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