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Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 05:03 PM
The BBC and many other broadcasters around the world are in a quandary as the men's singles final at Wimbledon is at 2pm and the World Cup final in Russia at 4pm BST on Sunday 18th July 2018. Both are usually broadcast live on BBC1 but the tennis probably won't be over. They also need a build-up for the football. What if Murray and England are both in the final? Appeals are being made to push back the WC final a couple of hours. If not it's been suggested that Wimbledon starts the final at 12 or 1pm or have it Saturday and the women's final Sunday as that's shorter.
Posted by: King Rollo 5th July 2017, 05:14 PM
My solution - play the last 16 on Sunday instead of Monday. Quarter finals Mon/Tue. Semi finals Wed/Thu. Womens final 6pm on Friday evening. Mens final Saturday.
Posted by: Houdini 5th July 2017, 05:34 PM
There's absolutely no chance of the World Cup final getting moved to a different time. I think it's more likely that the final of Wimbledon will get moved to the previous Sunday.
Posted by: DJHazey 5th July 2017, 05:43 PM
Posted by: Dobbo 5th July 2017, 05:50 PM
Yeah I think The World Cup final is a bit more important than the Wimbledon final so that ain't getting moved. Surely this must have happened on another occasion in the past.
I think they'll start Wimbledon on BBC1 then if it's a slow burner switch it to BBC2. That's what they did when Grands Prix clashed with major football tournaments.
Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 06:08 PM
Apparently it can't be as the tennis calendar from January and the Australian Open is already finalised so Wimbldon can't start a week earlier now. Wimbledon is from this year two weeks later than it used to be. I remember when the finals were on the first weekend in July, not the 3rd weekend.
Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 06:11 PM
That sounds feasible. Wimbledon will do something as FIFA are apparently refusing to budge.
Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 06:12 PM
I know it's very unlikely but we have to hope........
Posted by: Houdini 5th July 2017, 06:32 PM
Is there no chance of it getting moved to the 25th of July then instead?
Posted by: Mack 5th July 2017, 09:32 PM
Can't see the start of Wimbledon being moved to other week. Sunday has always traditionally a rest day at Wimbledon. It's impossible that the World Cup final will be moved at all. We'll see what happens there.
Posted by: Silas 5th July 2017, 09:36 PM
Auntie beeb does have 2 prime time channels. One will get each. Probably the Tennis on BBC2.
There is no chance that England makes the WC final though.
Posted by: Buzzjаck 5th July 2017, 09:41 PM
Yes but England fans apparently do tend to be rather overhopeful.
Btw, Common Sense are you trying to reinvent yourself on the Sports Forum now? Is this your first thread here?
Posted by: Mack 5th July 2017, 09:52 PM
Btw, Common Sense are you trying to reinvent yourself on the Sports Forum now? Is this your first thread here?
Last thread from him was:
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9967
Just put the World Cup on BBC 1 and The Wimbledon Final on BBC 2. Problem sorted.
Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 10:04 PM
Lol, No and no, as someone has pointed out. Why, am I not welcome in here?
Just thought it was worth discussing that's all.botrh
By the way, just read elsewhere that the BBC are bound in their contracts with both FIFA and Wimbledon to show the finals on "one of the major channels" so not necessarily BBC1. Can be BBC2 but not BBC3 or 4 apparently. Can't see a problem really.
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th July 2017, 10:08 PM
I think they'll start Wimbledon on BBC1 then if it's a slow burner switch it to BBC2. That's what they did when Grands Prix clashed with major football tournaments.
I don't remember it happening in the past although that doesn't mead it hasn't happened. For a long time Wimbledon finished on the Saturday rather than the Friday which will have avoided any clash.
The World Cup final has an unusually early kick-off time. 4pm UK time will be 6pm Moscow time.
July 18 is also unusually late for the Wimbledon final.
Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 10:12 PM
July 18 is also unusually late for the Wimbledon final.
As I said earlier, Wimbledon seems to have got 2 weeks later now. Used to be the last two weeks in June with the finals the first weekend of July.
We usually have the WC final around 7pm BST but FIFA want it at 4pm BST so it's then 8-11am in the US and a more amenable time in most other countries too.
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th July 2017, 10:12 PM
Assuming the dates cannot be changed the logical solution would be to start the Wimbledon final at midday. If there is any chance of rain they could close the roof for the start of the match.
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th July 2017, 10:14 PM
Just thought it was worth discussing that's all.botrh
By the way, just read elsewhere that the BBC are bound in their contracts with both FIFA and Wimbledon to show the finals on "one of the major channels" so not necessarily BBC1. Can be BBC2 but not BBC3 or 4 apparently. Can't see a problem really.
There could be other similar contracts with overseas broadcasters who only have one "major" channel.
Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 10:18 PM
Yes, apparently RTE in Ireland are angry, saying they are contractually bound to show both on RTE1 which would be impossible if Wimbledon went beyond 4pm.
Posted by: Mack 5th July 2017, 10:18 PM
Wimbledon was changed for players to have a break from after the French Open. It's been since 2015 that a gap was introduced of three weeks
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2012-07-19/20120719_201207191342698319697.
Posted by: common sense 5th July 2017, 10:39 PM
The BBC, other broadcasters and Wimbledon organisers are in talks now apparently and it seems the favoured solution is to use the middle Sunday for play and have both ladies and men's finals on the Saturday so the tournament ends before the WC final. US broadcasters who show the mens tennis final, live, are against it starting earlier on the sunday as that would mean 5-8am in the US.
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th July 2017, 10:59 PM
It seems inevitable that the US will get to host their second World Cup before England get it again. I assume the US broadcasters will agree that no matches should have kick-off times that are inconvenient for European audiences.
Posted by: Mack 18th July 2017, 12:53 PM
Could be a long wait before anything happens in regards to this.
Posted by: Mack 21st July 2017, 12:34 PM
Going back to this:
Wimbledon look as though they have addressed the issue though by making their start time 1pm. I still think it is bizarre that FIFA want their final to kick off at 4pm though. Unless it is a long final the tennis will finish by 4pm and the BBC will be able to show both on BBC1. Maybe have a build up programme to the World Cup on BBC2? In a way it could mean a big audience for the tennis as there will be a lot of people tuning in towards 4pm for the football.
Posted by: Suedehead2 22nd July 2017, 01:01 PM
Wimbledon look as though they have addressed the issue though by making their start time 1pm. I still think it is bizarre that FIFA want their final to kick off at 4pm though. Unless it is a long final the tennis will finish by 4pm and the BBC will be able to show both on BBC1. Maybe have a build up programme to the World Cup on BBC2? In a way it could mean a big audience for the tennis as there will be a lot of people tuning in towards 4pm for the football.
It's a very strange kick-off time. It will be 6pm in Moscow so it could easily start two or even three hours later. It will be 5pm in most of Europe and late morning or earlier on the American continent, In the parts of Asia where FIFA are keen to develop the game it will be the early hours of Monday morning. Therefore, it doesn't seem particularly ideal for television audiences in any part of the world likely to get the best viewing figures.
Posted by: Soy Adrián 22nd July 2017, 01:18 PM
Very odd. A few years ago when the Champions League final was in Moscow I'm pretty sure it kicked off at UK 8pm, meaning that it was well past 1am local time by the time it was over. That was admittedly the year of the all-English final, but I'd imagine it would have been the same regardless.
Playing on the middle Sunday at Wimbledon seems like the most sensible solution. They can't risk a clash for two of the half dozen biggest sporting events of year, even if there's no British representation in either.
Posted by: Mart!n 22nd July 2017, 04:19 PM
Usually the World Cup kick off is 7pm or 8pm on a Sunday, I didn't know the final has been pushed forward to 4pm.
Easily sorted, BBC2 will transmit the Men's final.
Posted by: Houdini 24th July 2017, 12:27 PM
Does anyone remember what time the USA 1994 World Cup final kicked off? the tournament was held in America that year so it must have had an unusual start time as well.
Posted by: Suedehead2 24th July 2017, 01:08 PM
It kicked off at 12:30pm local time, 8:30pm UK time.. I think that was partly to maximise the television audience by avoiding a kick-off time that would have been in the early hours of the morning in Europe.
Posted by: Evil Houdini 30th June 2018, 11:08 PM
This is only 2 weeks away now! I hope the Wimbledon final and the World Cup final don't over run, I think it's a stupid decision from FIFA to have the World Cup final kick off so early on a Sunday.
Posted by: UltraReputation 30th June 2018, 11:59 PM
The date is def not July 18th cos that's my birthday and my birthday is on a Wednesday this year?
Posted by: Seinfeld 1st July 2018, 01:00 AM
The World Cup final is on the 15th of July (my birthday!).
Posted by: Steve201 1st July 2018, 02:14 AM
Which led to the players playing in the searing heat of the LA Rose Bowl!
Posted by: Crazy Chris 1st July 2018, 07:09 AM
Sorry, folks, got the date wrong. It's Sunday 15th.
Posted by: Mack. 1st July 2018, 10:38 AM
The Men's Single Final will be on from 1pm to 3:30pm on BBC 1, on both channels between 3 and 3:30 and BBC 2 only from 3:30-8.
Posted by: Suedehead2 1st July 2018, 05:08 PM
Well, we know Andy Murray won't be in the final.
Posted by: Mack. 4th July 2018, 01:45 PM
Provisional BBC1 Schedule:
1pm- Men's Final Build Up
1:50pm- Men's Final
3pm- MOTD: World Cup Final Build Up
3:50pm- MOTD: World Cup Final
Posted by: Crazy Chris 4th July 2018, 04:52 PM
Imagine if England's in the WC Final. The country will go wild.
Posted by: Mack. 11th July 2018, 12:41 PM
Wimbledon won't move the men's final due to tradition that it always starts at 2pm they don't have contractual obligations for that start time though.
Posted by: Suedehead2 11th July 2018, 05:58 PM
By tradition, the Men's Singles final was always on a Saturday. They were happy to change that.
Posted by: Anton95 14th July 2018, 08:27 AM
Looks like tomorrow will have the biggest sporting event clash in history. The 2018 FIFA World Cup Final - the world's most anticipated global TV event - will take place at the same time as the Wimbledon Mens' Single Final. 
Personally, as a causal sports fan I would rather watch both events at the same time live - the World Cup Final on the TV and the Wimbledon Mens' Singles Final on my tablet - because to me they're the most exciting, with lots of tension and drama. But how about you? Will you watch either the World Cup or Wimbledon finals, or if possible, watch both events live at the same time? 
On a related note, I'm looking forward to watch the Wimbledon Ladies' Final match live on TV today. Yes I know it's happening at the same time as the World Cup 3rd Place match, which to me is mostly irrelevant and uninteresting than the women's tennis one, but still I'll watch both events simultaneously - Kerber vs Williams on TV and England vs Belgium on my tablet.
Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 14th July 2018, 09:28 AM
Merged this with the existing topic - hope this is okay with everyone
I'll be watching the World Cup of course!
Posted by: Jade 14th July 2018, 05:50 PM
Team World Cup as well, haven't really been watching much of Wimbledon (mainly checking BBC News for some updates) whilst I've watched lots of the World Cup matches.
Posted by: Suedehead2 14th July 2018, 06:01 PM
If the Wimbledon semi-finals are anything to go by, you'll be able to catch the end of the final even if the World Cup goes to penalties 
Posted by: Mack. 14th July 2018, 06:48 PM
The World Cup final of course. Then switch over once it has finished.
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