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 Jan 19 2010, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Tyrina Diamandis @ Jan 19 2010, 05:07 PM)  Oh dear. On the same basis, should we ban alcohol and cigarettes? And you're also a complete moron. Marijuana can't kill you... Can you not debate a subject without resorting to personal name-calling and insults?  I left all that behind in the junior school playground.
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Jan 19 2010, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Tyrina Diamandis @ Jan 19 2010, 05:07 PM) Oh dear. On the same basis, should we ban alcohol and cigarettes? And you're also a complete moron. Marijuana can't kill you... It can Bob Marley's death was widely attributed to his addiction to marijuana, lung cancer spreading to brain and other areas and dead at 36 |
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Jan 19 2010, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(B.A Baracus @ Jan 19 2010, 06:27 PM) It can Bob Marley's death was widely attributed to his addiction to marijuana, lung cancer spreading to brain and other areas and dead at 36 He had a melanoma which originated under one of his toenails due to an injury, which then spread to the rest of his body including his lungs and brain. The marijuana didn't cause his death. The only way you would die is if you smoked your own body weight in marijuana in a short period of time, and even if you did that you would die of smoke inhalation (just like you would if you were in a house fire) before you would from the toxicity of the drug.  Other drugs like heroin are a different story altogether. But why marijuana is illegal is beyond me.  |
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Jan 19 2010, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(B.A Baracus @ Jan 19 2010, 06:27 PM) It can Bob Marley's death was widely attributed to his addiction to marijuana, lung cancer spreading to brain and other areas and dead at 36 What Cal said And, in any case, that would only be as a result of smoking it with tobacco, which isn't the only way of ingesting marijuana...
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Jan 19 2010, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(Victor Meldrew @ Jan 19 2010, 06:11 PM) Can you not debate a subject without resorting to personal name-calling and insults? I left all that behind in the junior school playground. I'll stop resorting to these things when you 'resort' to actually informing yourself on the issues before coming into the debate, rather than just peddling rash generalisations with no background context whatsoever... |
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Jan 19 2010, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(Cal @ Jan 19 2010, 06:59 PM) He had a melanoma which originated under one of his toenails due to an injury, which then spread to the rest of his body including his lungs and brain. The marijuana didn't cause his death. The only way you would die is if you smoked your own body weight in marijuana in a short period of time, and even if you did that you would die of smoke inhalation (just like you would if you were in a house fire) before you would from the toxicity of the drug. Other drugs like heroin are a different story altogether. But why marijuana is illegal is beyond me. Aah my brainfade :/ been a long day, thanks for clarifying
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Jan 20 2010, 12:38 PM
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The worst thing you can say about Marijuana is that it may exacerbate an ALREADY EXISTING mental condition.... In and of itself it is not lethal and it doesn't create mental problems in someone with no history of such problems....
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Jan 20 2010, 03:09 PM
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I was just listening to the radio in the car and Head Shops was the topic. I don't know what they're like in the UK, but they're getting quite popular here now. People usually buy cannabis FLAVOURED tobacco etc. There was a mother complaining that her son went off the rails because he became a regular customer at one of these shops. She claimed he almost had a stroke and that he tested positive for cannabis. Seeing as these shops don't actually sell cannabis and it actually can't do that to you, it proved how ill-informed she actually was (I like the word 'actually', btw
 ). He most likely got sick because he smoked too much cannabis FLAVOURED tobacco. She said "And they sell pre-rolled joints for 5€!"... Christ love, THEY AREN'T REAL JOINTS. It's regular tobacco. The same tobacco in YOUR cigarettes. And then she blamed the store for her son's illness. Hello? He was old enough to make the choice to buy that tobacco, and f***, if I lived with you I'd have a f***ing stroke! Point of my rant: If cannabis/marijuana was legal, this wouldn't happen. |
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Jan 20 2010, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Cal @ Jan 20 2010, 03:09 PM) I was just listening to the radio in the car and Head Shops was the topic. I don't know what they're like in the UK, but they're getting quite popular here now. People usually buy cannabis FLAVOURED tobacco etc. There was a mother complaining that her son went off the rails because he became a regular customer at one of these shops. She claimed he almost had a stroke and that he tested positive for cannabis. Seeing as these shops don't actually sell cannabis and it actually can't do that to you, it proved how ill-informed she actually was (I like the word 'actually', btw ). He most likely got sick because he smoked too much cannabis FLAVOURED tobacco. She said "And they sell pre-rolled joints for 5€!"... Christ love, THEY AREN'T REAL JOINTS. It's regular tobacco. The same tobacco in YOUR cigarettes. And then she blamed the store for her son's illness. Hello? He was old enough to make the choice to buy that tobacco, and f***, if I lived with you I'd have a f***ing stroke! Point of my rant: If cannabis/marijuana was legal, this wouldn't happen. You ask me it was probably all the artificial additives in the flavouring that made him ill.....
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Feb 1 2010, 12:13 AM
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there wod be less problems
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Feb 1 2010, 03:52 PM
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PROFOUND.
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Feb 1 2010, 08:01 PM
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Feb 3 2010, 03:38 AM
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Im not so sure how to go about this tbh. I occassionally smoke weed and whilst i dont really like doing it, if i were to stop doing it, i know i would be phased out from my circle of friends so i admit i have succumed to peer pressure. On the topic of the effects, I have personally felt some side effects from it. A few years back i went through a really dodgy phase in my life and went (without sounding cliched) to a pretty dark place. I wouldnt be very socialable, i would feel a lot more critical about myself and would take my anger out on myself (a PG-13 way to put it so to speak). But then again i was also on Anti-Depressants at that time so im not 100% if it was smoking cannabis or if it was the pills however, having said that, my best mate who i used to hang out with pretty much every day, smokes loads of it (especially recently) and does not take Anti-Depressants but yet i see some of the same side effects that I had in him now. And whats worse, the only time i ever hang out with him now, is when i have money to "lend" him so he can get his hand on something. Any other time he usually goes wherever the weed is. So for the above reasons, i think seeing harsher punishments might benefit society some way but on the other hand you have the breakdown of organized crime as the most obvious of arguements. And also seeing as the reclassification of the drug to a class B hasnt really done much im not so sure how harsher punishments may actually change things if at all... So yeah thats my two cents.
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Mar 22 2018, 10:04 AM
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Bump - old thread on decriminalization of drugs.
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Mar 22 2018, 10:12 AM
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Decriminalise NOW and legalise marijuana. It has only been illegal in recent human history, NEVER before, due to big business Rockafella pressure. Time to say NO to fat cats ruling us.
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Mar 22 2018, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Shia LeMuffQueef @ Mar 22 2018, 10:12 AM) Decriminalise NOW and legalise marijuana. It has only been illegal in recent human history, NEVER before, due to big business Rockafella pressure. Time to say NO to fat cats ruling us. You realise that decriminalization wouldn't magically stop all drug related crime, right? |
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Mar 22 2018, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Mar 22 2018, 10:30 AM) You realise that decriminalization wouldn't magically stop all drug related crime, right? It's time to get addicts the help they need and realise the government has NO business dictating what people can and cannot do with their own bodies. It wouldn't magically stop drug crime no, but it would stop making drug addicts and marijuana users criminals. Prohibition does not work. |
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Mar 22 2018, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(Shia LeMuffQueef @ Mar 22 2018, 10:47 AM) It's time to get addicts the help they need and realise the government has NO business dictating what people can and cannot do with their own bodies. It wouldn't magically stop drug crime no, but it would stop making drug addicts and marijuana users criminals. Prohibition does not work. Stoned drivers would be no less dangerous if drugs were legalised, though... |
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Mar 22 2018, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Mar 22 2018, 11:47 AM) Stoned drivers would be no less dangerous if drugs were legalised, though... Wut? Drink drivers are FAR more dangerous. Hey. LET'S BAN ALCOHOL!!! DRINK DRIVERS NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Wait. I'm sure it won't end like the LAST era of US prohibition did. Noo sir. |
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Mar 22 2018, 11:58 AM
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How many drugs would you have legalised? I think marijuana should be legal but cocaine, heroin, MDMA etc. should remain illegal.
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