why would a Swedish pop singer do eurovision for the UK? Have we really ran out of homegrown singers who are willing to do eurovision?
I wondered the same thing! I just looked on her Wikipedia page to see if she had any British connections but she doesn't seem to so that makes it even more strange!
YES PLEASE *.* I very much doubt it though.
There's even a little article about this on a Swedish radio station's website, you can translate this one: http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=97&artikel=5948257!
They asked Alcazar too about ten years ago. They turned it down because the BBC insisted on choosing the song and only gave them terrible tracks.
At Linda's gig the other week she mentioned on stage that she'd happily do Eurovision for the UK if the 'right people' asked her. Maybe someone from the BBC was in the crowd and took note!
They probably wouldn't be like that these days considering they let Molly do everything herself, but then again considering her result they may decide to be more in control. I hope they use BBC Introducing again though!
If they want to choose a Swedish singer then can they choose Molly Sandén please!
I imagine OLD MOLL will probably be focusing a little more CLOSE TO HOME...
YES PLEASE! I wouldn't even care if we were to come last if Bengtzing were our entry. *.*
Omg this must happen
The BBC are accepting possible entries to be submitted to them by Friday 7th November. A 'panel of experts' will listen to submissions and shortlist any they think have potential. They're continuing to talk to record labels and BBC Introducing etc. to possibly find an entry that way too.
Full details at the blog post linked below
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eurovision/posts/Looking-forward-to-2015
Sounds good, glad to hear they're being open minded and not just writing off BBC Introducing because of Molly's result. I wonder if they'll get many submissions through that process?
I get that the bbc now understand they need the whole package but I still feel that they aren't putting the song first. The only thing wrong with molly was that the song just wasn't good enough - everything else maybe bar crap backing singers was fine.
I think I'd prefer the bbc to maybe get 3 acts who can all sing well and then each of them have 2 songs and the public votes for the best song. We just need something memorable and current - it's not that hard - they are the bbc with a billion contacts and dolla for Christ sake...
I think if we don't go top 5 next year that guy freeman needs to be axed.
Why on EARTH would Guy Freeman need to be axed when he's just about the only one who's shown any sign of having his head screwed on there for the last ten years? The current BBC Introducing strategy's a solid one that's bound to pay off eventually, it might just take a matter of time for us to find the right entry from it. I wouldn't want Guy firing if we don't go top five next year when there's basically no sign that anybody else at the BBC has a clue to what might work at Eurovision.
I think there were two big things that did us in this year - Molly coming off a bit like a deer in the headlights on stage with barely any presence, and the track being something most people would've enjoyed but something that was only about the fourth or fifth best entry in its genre on the night - which isn't something that ever fares well when you're the last entry on and everyone's decided their favourite. Going on last only really seems to be an advantage if you're bringing something to the table that none of the preceding 25 entries have done.
But this year was Guy Freeman's first year in charge since 1997 I believe? (Someone correct me if I'm wrong). Which was the last time we won?
Yeah I'm sure this year was Guy's first year back in charge since the late 1990s (I think) which of course were very successful for the UK, he was also the man in charge when Katrina & The Waves won I think. So there is absolutely no way he should be replaced, hopefully the BBC sign him on for many many years based on what he did this year!
I'd love for the BBC to get in contact with our 3 Junior Eurovision entrants, it'd be nice to see one of them make the step up to Eurovision! I remember Cory was on X Factor very briefly recently, but I've just been listening to some of Joni Fuller's material and I think it's fantastic!
Something like this would be very refreshing for us I think!
Joni is also in with BBC Introducing Lancashire so make it happen BBC
New rumour is The Voice's Tyler James after apparently a picture of him briefly appeared on the BBC Eurovision website before being quickly taken down. Not sure if this is the truth, but people are talking about it on Twitter and on other forums.
He'd be a great choice if by any small chance it is true.
If we're going down a contestant from The Voice route, I'd prefer Bo Bruce.
As good as Bo would be, she remind me too much of Emmelie de Forest. We need someone with a massive voice that can belt a few notes (but are current as well)
I wouldn't complaint about Tyler James. Current-ish/hip sounding, some years of stage experience (I would assume)... but would need a belter of a song obviously.
Next rumour is the Wonder Villains, apparently one of them posted somewhere that Eurovision's their dream or something along those lines. It fits with the very vague other rumour that a band is on the BBC's shortlist. They would be fantastic, imagine an entry like this!
(Am I right in thinking that was a Bre BJSC entry?)
This would flop.
Quite. I'm surprised at you, Dan and Ethan, I would have thought you more than most would understand why we keep doing less well (I say that rather than flop because in all honesty we have nothing to complain about when we're in the final and we have a past record that most countries could only dream of getting a tenth of), our recent entries don't seem like your sort of thing so that should mean it's possible they wouldn't be anyone else's, especially when other countries are sending entries that are far fresher and modern.
I've found it very hard to go back and listen to any of our recent entries after the contest. We could send something to do well but with recent entries we've always been some years behind the goalposts and they're changing all the time.
(that rage enough?)
i forgot we weren't allowed to call the UK flops in the eurovision forum can we really not bring up Jade Ewan every time someone makes a joke about the UK underperforming every year, that was over 5 years ago now.
'UK are flops' =/= 'UK will flop no matter what they send'
Were 'That Sounds Good to Me', Englebert and Bonnie good entries?
Yeah, I agree with that. Molly was on the right track, but unfortunate circumstances conspired against her to give the look that very little had changed (as well as a fair bit of overhype) and I am admittedly worried that will set us back a bit into the same sort of struggles that France has now. But if we stay the course we can absolutely get a hit again.
Part of this, not you guys, in general, is just a larger problem that I have with Britain in international competitions, you know the trend, that anything less than near the very best and lots of us start to describe our results as a run of awful luck and cries we'll never do well again, when you compare that to the successes of other countries who for the most part tend to be quite happy with their one top 10 performance that one time 3 years ago it feels very arrogant or just complaining for the sake of complaining. And I don't particularly like complaining.
can you not? (yay pun)
Alexandra Burke is taking a break from The Bodyguard for the second half of May and has a new EP out in March...
Ooh it's exciting the rumour mill will be in full force now we are in February!
Absolutely not gonna happen, no point speculating.
But where's the fun in that! I'm sure we'll have our annual Diana Vickers rumour in a couple of weeks which is always my favourite bit
Out of curiosity I just listened to the song that finished 2nd to Jemini back in the 2003 national final. It's pretty great isn't it!
So it was the equivalent to next week where everything fell into place last year! We found out about the private concert show that OGAE leaked they were invited to and the Red Button show on the Thursday - which was then officially confirmed on the BBC Eurovision blog on the Friday. Then on the Sunday the filming of the song took place and we were 99% sure it was Molly and then on the Monday it was of course shown on the Red Button.
Will they follow the same pattern this year?
There's been a weirdly low amount of hype/rumours this year on the internet about the UK entrant compared to usual, maybe everyone's still deflated about how badly Molly did and nobody wants to get their hopes up? I guess we'll know very soon!
Yeah I was just thinking yesterday how we haven't had our annual Daily Star exclusive of Atomic Kitten or whoever takes their fancy being our representative.
"funky Eldrine"
I'm very down for funky Eldrine if that source is correct. Though it's not the sort of thing I'd ever expect us to send and that's a weird comparison to make unless it can really be described as nothing more remembered.
Doesn't fill me with hope A rockier entry from the UK would be about time though really I guess...
We might as well try something different We've tried other things and flopped, we have nothing to lose really - it's not as if we have a run of hits to uphold.
I'd like to try something a bit indie for a change, I feel like we could enter something a bit alternative and quirkly like Estonia's 'Siren' from 2010 (and lots of their Eesti Laul entries over the years to be fair) but a better version of it.
Sophie's choice~
I know it could just be a load of talk but Guy's post has me super excited for this.
At least we have a date!!
At least we have a date.
Would love it if Alexandra Burke was the representative but it seems too unrealistic
This will be happening at 9.30pm as The Voice is on from 7.30pm till 9.30pm on March 7th - so there won't be any Melodifestivalen clash!
Oh oh!
Daily Star running with the story that Voice winner Jermain Jackman is our entry. I desperately hope that they are putting 2 and 2 together (with the presentation being after The Voice) and coming up with 5 but my excitement has suddenly dropped very very quickly.
I really hope the fact that 'everyone is working hard to get the song ready' as said in the press release means that it isn't a song that is already finished (Jermain's new single is 3 minutes long but is already out on YouTube).
In other news, there's a hilarious rumour on Twitter that it is Jahmene Douglas with a song called 'Mother' and it just reminds me of Ruslana on the Belgian panel last year
is this the Jermain Jackman song potentially being entered then?
it fits the 'funky' criteria that the tweet suggested. It doesn't sound like a hit though
I suppose he's at least a proven vocalist and the song is fairly instant/catchy but I can't imagine it lighting up the scoreboard particularly and I'm finding it hard to get excited about it. It seems like a bit of a waste of an entry if it is this, we really need to just go all out one year and send something that doesn't sound like album filler.
I saw that last night and really hope not, Daily Star aren't exactly the most reliable of sources and surely they wouldn't be building up to a big reveal for a song that's already premiered?
I'm sure it was the Star that 'revealed' Atomic Kitten as our entry in 2012/13 so they're not the most reliable as you say!
He's just tweeted and confirmed it's not him!
Just like Michelle Visage tweeted she wasn't going into the CBB house...
That's a good song but total bottom 5 fodder and not particularly exciting. Hopefully that is just a rubbish rumour.
I have faith in Guy Freeman that he'll choose something great again, I can't imagine him choosing Jermain as that song would definitely not have been chosen "with the contest in mind".
This tweet is no longer there, but if it was and therefore is true then maybe a leak could be on its way shortly! (She is a wardrobe stylist so that part makes sense)
Jermain, oh my god They could barely have chosen anyone WORSE!
Like I say, I'm quietly confident it isn't him. Children Of The Universe didn't premiere before the big reveal so why would they have Jermain's on Youtube with a lyric video etc.
HAVE FAITH PEOPLE (I'm trying!)
If I recall correctly we got something like 6 different people rumoured in the run up to the reveal last year (I definitely remember Holly Drummond and Nina Nesbitt, there were probably others too).
It's all part of the fun!
Yeah Jermain apparently denied it on radio today as well, I'm also 99.9% sure it isn't him - or Jahmene Douglas for that matter.
well the other Jahmene has been battered around abit in the speculation and right now his site is down for maintenance i'm hoping this means nothing!
http://jahmenedouglas.com/
PLEASE NO!
I know a website maintenance message was a sign for the Bonnie Tyler announcement, but I really don't think it is Jahmene - I'm pretty sure it's going to be someone unknown and if it isn't then I doubt they will go for a product of a rival channel's TV show - and on top of that an unsuccessful product.
We're due a completely dire entry I suppose, we've been treated with Blue and Molly so far this decade!
I have faith in Guy Freeman that he won't have picked Jahmene Douglas singing something he would do at his local church fete for Eurovision.
Grace Savage?
https://twitter.com/_GraceSavage/status/572905336941748226
I actually like this idea and hoping she has a grand track of her own, preferably in the same vein as Blake Lewis' pop/beatbox crossover work.
that is, if she's not trolling us all.
I think she's just trolling and using it for promotion. She's retweeted two accounts that are 'Eurovision UK reveal' accounts which have just been set up to announce she's the Eurovision entry
Very interesting, but I doubt the UK will come up with someone so unique, they are much more likely to go with whaling from Jahmene.
I think we should just BAN RUMOURS about the UK to be honest - with the new approach there's SHIT ALL CHANCE we're going to choose some of these NO HOPERS. Whatever else, I'm willing to bet our entry this year will at least be good on paper, if nothing else.
IN GUY FREEMAN WE TRUST
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02jtrz9#auto (From 2:16.30)
That is an interview with Guy Freeman on BBC Radio Nottingham yesterday talking about the submission process and about the chosen entry. He more or less implied that this was from the submission process and not BBC introducing or any other method and he says that this year's entry is "not through design, quite a contrast to last year". He also said it was "interesting" and has a memorable hook. He also mentioned in the interview how important staging of a song is, so I think that's good he's recognised that already as it didn't quite click with Molly in Copenhagen last year.
Maybe the fact he was on Nottingham radio is a clue that it's going to be Indiana and she's going to re-release 'Solo Dancing' again for the contest (ignoring the rules about September of course).
Alexandra Burke has denied it's her, well her publicist has.
I would've died if it was Alexandra
Here's to hoping we finally get a great song this year! Molly was good on paper but the song just wasn't catchy or instant enough - if they have a song that is this year then surely we will go top ! (and the delusional hope begins)
DIANA please <3
https://twitter.com/RyanJL/status/573512860120313856
God help us all.
At least it wouldn't be a ballad!
Ergh.
urgh, I'd rather have a ballad than f***ing Johnny Robinson. Now that would really be taking the piss
I don't think that means anything though, I really doubt we'd send him
They're probably just trolling. I smell a red herring follow.
Oh it's definitely a pisstake rumour, they obv know how closely people are following this whole thing.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah they wouldn't be as obvious as following someone like that, and there would be uproar from the fans if someone like Johnny was internally picked.
We need a 'rumoured to be the BBC entry' Bingo set up for 2016.
Also Jahmene Douglas and George Ezra have been followed very recently by BBC Eurovision so its not a unique case!
Reckon they read the rumours and follow them to troll? Aahahah.
But please no, even though Johnny could be our Verka Serduchka.
How about we all SAVE OUR LIVES instead of quibbling over DREADFUL RUMOURS WHICH ARE NEVER TRUE ANYWAY
But these rumours are more fun that a UK national final ever was!
Anyway today's rumour mill has so far given us 2 artists, one more realistic than the other.
Rumour #1, which we have heard already a few weeks ago and could possibly match the 'Funky Eldrine' rumour, is the Wonder Villains (the YouTube link is for the song 'Golden Five'):
And the second fun one is Molly Pettersson Hammar who posted this on her Facebook page today and has sent some fans into overdrive:
Molly also released a piano ballad version of "I'll be Fine" today so maybe that was it...
I'm amazed they've managed to keep it a secret! Last year we pretty much knew it would be Molly a good 24 hours before the reveal.
Apparently the same source that broke the news about Molly has now said we're sending Wonder Villains - I'd love that to be true! Persephonia repping.
Indeed, but I'm doubting it to be honest - although I would like it to be true. I can't remember the exact timeline regarding who knew what when for Molly's reveal but I think we all found out at the same time on that Sunday night recording on Twitter, maybe he just managed to piece together all the Twitter clues first.
Yeah, looking back at his tweets - the first Molly specific tweet came on that Sunday evening. All the other "clues" were so vague that anyone could've come up with them. So no I don't believe him!
I've only heard Zola from Wonder Villains which is quite fun, they wouldn't be too bad for eurovision based on that
The BBC Entertainment PR guy (@chris_maccc) has just followed the Wonder Villains on Twitter - would he really give it away like that? Or are the BBC just trying to throw us off the scent again?
Zola is fucking awful.
So...is this being revealed on BBC 1 after The Voice, as in actually on TV and not the red button?
No it's on the red button.
Ah, thank you!
I'll have you know Blue came 11th!!1!11!
Tbf though, would you want it to come down to the UK public?
Given our decisions with Big Brother, XF and the likes (especially The Voice) it'd be WORSE probably with an MF style show. But at least we'd have a choice The thing, even back in like 2006 odd we couldn't really get big names - imagine the barrels we'd be scraping now
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Just ONE of the comments on eurovision.tv
Where can I view this online?
The UK just needs 1 hit by a currently "popular" artist like Anouk and help him/her to get a hit and the others will be lining up.
What the actual fuck is this...
Oh gosh what is this, awful
26th place?
What the hell is this?
Whoever chose this is off their heads. This will do nothing.
Ummm...what the hell?
Hello nil points!
We have a bunch of idiots choosing our song.
That's the only possible explanation.
OH MY CHRIST JESUS WEPT Literally what the hell must have the other "100s" of entries have been?!
Please let this be a joke and the proper song will get played?
Nil Points???
Gosh I am in hysterics at this, this is so bad
GUY FREEMAN - YOU LIED
That was seriously awful.
Speechless, sounds like a major flop.
I do sort of like it though, in a Caro Emerald b-side meets dated electro breakdown sort of way.
There was some RETRO FUN in that. At least it's uptempo!
Oh jesus this is going to be last place for sure. It's a joke entry without the joke.
I really wanna see what happened at the other side of the Channel
At least it's not a ballad!111!!!
She is actually ok vocally, but he is just AWFUL.
I knew I recognised her, she was on The Voice and didn't get through
I don't usually join the chorus of 'urgh awful!!11' and 'nil points' whatever the entry, but in this case...yeah, that was dreadful.
To think I thought we had the Wonder Villains :'(
Time to go and find another country to support this year
What countries have good songs?
Time to adopt Ann Sophie, I guess.
I can't even imagine why they went for that. Molly got such a good reaction in general...so the obvious logical conclusion was to do the exact opposite of course.
Bring back "Zola", all is forgiven!
They need something modern not something from the Jazz era/something from Great Gatsby
They need to get rid of his absolutely awful Louis Armstong-mimicking ad-libs, they don't sound good at all.
(I do like the violin melody though to be fair, can we send an instrumental?)
Ahhh need to turn the red button off, it's repeating it!
We should be the ones choosing the UK act
We should be the ones choosing the UK act
Wait, this ksn't even THAT horrible, surely its no winner but I can see it picking up quite a few points, especially from Germany, Switzerland etc. It won't go top 20 tho
Seriously, that's as bad as Josh Dubovie. And Josh Dubovie was shit.
At least it's different? I think I kinda like it, but everytime I think that I also think to myself, but it's so shit! :\ I'M TORN.
US FLOPPING?
THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
FFS is this some kind of joke? That is seriously one of the most godawful pieces of music I have ever heard.
It's so bad
oh my god ://///
absolutely f***ing AWFUL!
A couple of listens later and I think I'm sold!
It's different, it's jazzy, it's not a ballad, I foresee no obstacles.
You know, it would be better if BBC snatched a reject from some other country next year.
I loved the webstream I was watching it on. Whoever was streaming it opened up notepad after it was over and just typed "Shiiiiit!", my thoughts exactly.
'You're bound to get sneezes, or nasty diseases'
Straight into the dire lyrics Eurovision Hall of Fame!
The scatting and ad-libs are cringeworthingly embarrassing.
I like the style and I think I get what they're trying to do, but jesus christ is this a misfire or what? I mean I love Caro Emerald, her alone (with a better song) might be ok but he is terrible.
STILL LAUGHING.
I can't quite believe this is real. I'm sat with it on repeat because I need to convince myself it's not some hideous joke my mind has played on me.
They should've gone with The Beast tbh
I've said it before and I'll say it again - guy freeman does not know what he is doing. Worst song EVER
I rather liked it It's something a bit different at least. Not sure whether it will do very well in Vienna though
Shame about the Wonder Villains
I've had to turn off the red button, gosh that was painful, awful and so disappointing
The spirit of Doop lives on.
STILL LAUGHING.
WHY UK. WHY.
I would rather ITV took over Eurovision tbh.
Lyrically HORRIFIC and the guy has a slappable face but I like the jazzy production. It doesn't really work all together though. Gahhh
omg oliver made a good point on my FB and said what if we sent Hannah Diamond next year ... erm YES
is it too late to send Hey QT?
Erm, so I saw the initial picture of them and saw it was a duet - I was like, wrong year for a duet! The positive is that it is different, it is uptempo and it has that brassy violin thing that is quite popular. And the 'still in love with you' lyric does stay in your head.
However, there is no real chorus, the scatting thing is dreadful, and Bianca suits it so much better than Alex. I can't see it getting top 20 I'm afraid, it's just too retro. It doesn't match up to the other duet with violin from Slovenia at all. Hmmm, not good enough sorry Guy - I expected better!
Well...
The concept is great, but execution is bloody horrendous.
There IS something there though - I didn't like it but it was absolutely in my head when it finished. The staging needs masses of work to sell it... At least I'm not expecting it to do anything which means I'll be happy with a placing above the bottom five.
Someone made a good point on Digital spy comments they said 'Expect a lot of Ballads in Vienna this year'. I bet there will be now
Oh MY... A poor mans Scatman John tbh~
You are all overreacting.
It's fun, catchy and the performance should perk up the mood rather. I think the BBC are taking a risk with this but it could pay off (with a top 15). Quite frankly, with the amount of dreary and downtempo numbers we have this year, stuff like this is essential to have in Eurovision.
I am a fan and you can take that TO. THE. BANK.
With another listen, I just think I can definitely see what they tried to do. Bianca alone with a better song could work, Caro Emerald is obviously popular, but I can't like it as is. It's probably our worst next to Andy Abraham and Josh Dubovie (not that anything can be as bad the latter).
Far be it from me to equate my own taste with what everyone else's tastes are x
This is truly dreadful. The committee that chose this song needs to be fired. Just because the UK auto-qualified doesn't mean it's an excuse to enter a song with awful lyrics.
The way I would describe this song is 'the music you would hear being played at a kids bouncy castle birthday party 10 years ago' 😂 but yes I'm rather devastated that we got this.. I thought we were going one step up from molly?
Can we all petition to have it taken off the bbc?
Oh gosh at Iz playing this on plug DJ
I'm glad with this entry this year. It's so different to anything we've sent in ages and the eurovision crowd is gonna eat it up.
I think I'm growing to like it! It's reminding me a lot of 'Bear Necessities' though!
WHAT. IS. THIS?
Terrible. Nuff said.
OMG.
The UK really know how to f*** up at Eurovision. I do like it in a hot mess kinda way, can't see it doing much though. Anything above last place would be an achievement tbh.
LAWL at the video having more dislikes than likes.
Honestly if this comes 20th I'll be hugely impressed.
Oh my! It's like Doop meets Erasure synths meets Caro meets Des'Ree lyrics! *.*
Horrific - Probably the first time in years I haven't liked our entry, Couldn't even listen to the whole song. Last place with 3 points of we're lucky enough to get 2 from Ireland and 1 from Malta!
It's massively dividing opinion all over facebook Euro fan groups. Literally no middle.
I'm secretly not thinking it will flop... I think it's fate will be sealed with the staging, as is the case with a lot of entries anyway.
While Scooch was cheese without the charm, I think this has both....
Or is that just me?
I'm so excited to listen to this after these reactions!
I want to listen more so it might grow but I managed a second listen for about a minute and couldn't manage anymore
I think it's catchy and will do well!!! I don't get all the negativity as it's only a competition and it's not the end of the world if we win or lose!! eurovision is tongue and cheek yes it's cheesy but it's a fun song and I got good feeling it will go down well!! Good luck Electro velvet in Vienna come on uk
I think the general conception of Europe's music taste is outdated and wrong. We are not into cheesy as much as some think at all.
I think this'll pick up several points and end up ay #22, with a small possibility of goinf top 20 of it connects with Poland etc. like Caro Emerald did, as they kind of remind me of her
I actually quite like this and don't think it sounds like a nul-pointer / last placer at all? (I say this as someone who barely follows Eurovision but still it sounds like a much better choice of entry than Engelbert or Bonnie ever did to me at least).
Well it's better than Engelbert or Bonnie, but not much isn't!
This is something that the Incest Brother/Sister Couple from X-Factor would sing in Week 8.
Didn't Germany do this better and failed miserably back in 2009?
tbh I do love this 1920s throwback songs and so this is a pleasant listen. From what I've heard, it's mainly ballads that have been sent so at least it will stand out! Also, at least there are no high expectations and nothing to get disappointed over like last year.
The guy part needs a better singer though, thats one key part that often seems to need improvement with our entries.
The more I play it, the worse it gets.
I'm stopping now.
Oh my sweet god WHAT IS THIS?
I think I'm ON BOARD! It's APPALLING but you almost have to admire that they think DOOP COVERED BY AN AMIGA is the SOLUTION FOR ROYAUME-UNI
At least it'll appeal to SOMEONE! (even if that someone is only enough to get us to 16th)
Really what a choice, it sounds very cheesy and dated, bring back Gemini all is forgiven
Here is Bianca in action on The Voice!
Bianca's from Beckenham though, i.e. 5 minutes away from where I live. *.*
If Latvia can win with that naff piece of cheap shit in 2002 (I know it was a while back)... 90% of me says bottom five, 10% of me says it will slay the Top 10.
This is growing on me. Slightly. It's still awful, but endearingly so. And knowing Eurovision, this will do better than Molly
Everything sounds so much better after you calm down
So, I just listened to this kinda drunk at 5:50am in the morning, I didn't have the pre-existant nerves of "oh my god, please be okay" like I did with Molly (and with Molly, I was one of the most negative initially so maybe I'm a good judge of performance).
I am extremely torn on this. It's a marmite entry yet I'm not sure how I feel. It's cringy, it's not modern, it's not what I wanted, it doesn't sound like a hit, the guy is annoying, the electro instrumental bits of awfully amateur.
Yet I don't hate it? It actually IS extremely instant, I feel worse about it than I did with Molly on first listen, the hook is such a worm and I can imagine them getting a great performance out of it. It's not what I wanted and we can rule out even coming close to a win but there's something about it which DOES work. If we can master it with some kind of appropriate performance (which I'm not too hopeful of, we are the UK at Eurovision after all), then it is actually a lot more instant than Molly was. The production doesn't need to be improved, it's perfectly accurate for what it is. I'm not sure but the instant impact and the fact I think we can get something to work with this makes me think we'll get a very similar placing to 'Children Of The Universe', something like 19th/20th.
If I'd listened at the time though, I'd definitely have been disappointed though.
(do people seriously think this would be better with just the female though, the male might be absolutely abhorrent but there's no WAY this would work better solo)
I'm thinking so much about this, I pray they make something of the performance of this - with Molly, we could've done a whole range of things but this type of song is calling for a specific type of production. A tinted screen, a la The Common Linnets, old fashioned microphones, two flapper dancers either side of them. It's not what I wanted but there's a direction with this and I think Guy has got a grasp of the performance element which he we can encorporate but has abandoned the concept of song itself.
A total lost cause? Not quite I don't think but I'm far from confident and I would like to take over as entry selector as of next year because I don't believe this is the best that we could work with. At all.
So I have listened to this song a few times now and I'm still really annoyed that this is what they have given us. If this really was the best then how horrendous was everything else?
There are elements of the song which do get stuck in your head, I agree but everything about it is so poorly done and crap that I don't even want to start to like it. I'd just be making myself like something awful because I want the UK to do well at eurovision ... Maybe them getting the first 27th place would be the most rememberable thing that this song will garner in future memory though ! And to be honest I kinda want it to come last so that it forces big changes at the BBC - another mediocre result and they will plod along with their bbc radio 2 big wigs advising and 'holy grail guy freeman' who talks the talk but never walks the walk.
The best we can hope is that a Germany situation happens > they pull out and then the song which the bbc thought was the worst is the only song left available and they have to send that... Which means it'll be amazing because the bbc didn't like it.
God this is a train wreck - maybe with some good promo and a new studio mix it could be ok?!
That string thing what even is it?!
SOMEONE CALL KITTY BRUCKNELL
lol this entry tho
this entry tho lol
I don't even hate it but I really don't understand how a group of people heard this and went YES. THIS IS THE ONE. ABOVE ALL OTHERS. It just boggles the mind.
that production though should be put in some sort of hall of shame
Just reading all the various social media reactions to the song - Never seen so much hatred for a Eurovision song!
The violin riff has been stuck in my head since the first listen...they weren't wrong when they said the song is instant!
It's completely dividing opinion everywhere I look.
Marmeeeeeet
I'm not surprised they gave up this year after Molly undeservedly flopped.
I am firmly loving this now I think! It's such an ear-worm. It's SO instant, very different and like popchartfreak says, it's not exactly "out of fashion" atm. Especially since 'The Great Gatsby'/Caro Emerald have sort of brought the whole 20's/jazz theme back to the forefront somewhat. I also don't think the guy is THAT bad either.
This basically though...
https://vine.co/v/OEJQBgBHLiO
What a fabulous song Imagine a UK entry with actual personality.
Actually I don't mind it now after a few more listens, its pretty catchy the track draws you in, I suppose we could get 4/5/6/ points from quite a few countries and 12 points from the Netherlands could end up finishing mid table I suppose. Its different to what we normally send, and as Popchartfreak said, it sticks out a bit from the rest.
Hopefully Australia being in the competition this year might help
Just as an additional point I don't really understand what's so awful about the guy? I'm usually the first one to detest the male part of a duo but aside from the obviously hideous "bee bop" part he seems to be a good contributor - the "oh yes" is just as fabulous as the "sounding good sugar" part imo.
Can't comment on vocal quality but I think both parts are largely equal in terms of what they bring.
He's not a competent vocalist.
Hearing this again now I'm not drunk and it's not as bad as I remember. It isn't my sort of music but it may do mid-table in May. Like Rob said though, they NEED to perfect the staging and presentation of the song because if it's just them with 2 mic stands and 4 backing singers they may as well NOT BOTHER.
However, the RONA NISHLIU WANNABE VOCAL ACROBATS the bloke does in the middle of the song, HAS TO GO BEFORE VIENNA.
The male vocals could be a whole lot stronger. The song isn't exactly a flattering tribute to the genre it's a pastiche of. Pretty atrocious, really!
Although I dislike it, I can see it picking up support. It's very divisive - clearly a "love it or hate it" situation, rather than safely being down the middle. Perhaps that will be to its advantage?
Well, I'm not a fan of it at all. It is incredibly cheesy and irritating, the be boppy part is horrendous. I guess at least it isn't boring as we've had some pretty boring ones lately in Bonnie/Engelbert and it does get stuck in your head. I don't think it'll come last but it certainly won't do much. Why do UK even take part anymore if they just take the piss with sending this crap?
Well, I'm not a fan of it at all. It is incredibly cheesy and irritating, the be boppy part is horrendous. I guess at least it isn't boring as we've had some pretty boring ones lately in Bonnie/Engelbert and it does get stuck in your head. I don't think it'll come last but it certainly won't do much. Why do UK even take part anymore if they just take the piss with sending this crap?
Do we all honestly think it stands NO CHANCE of winning. I'm probably living in hope land, but I actually really like the song and it could either win or fail miserably imo.
This literally stands no chance of winning. Listen to the last ten years - even the most incongruous winner (Running Scared) stood out as having mass appeal in a way that this just doesn't at all. A shock jury-led top ten isn't out of the question but this has nothing going for it to make it a potential winner.
I think, on balance of probabilities, this is a BIG FAT FLOP in the making. It could do alright, though I think top 10 is 100% out of the question, but I just can't imagine who is going to actively think 'that's the best song of the night' or even CLOSE to being the best. In a field of 27 songs it's really got its work cut out for it.
Ok so after even a few more listens, I still think it's awful but it does get stuck in your head. But at the same time, if a horrid song got stuck in my head on the night, would I vote for it? I doubt it!
The only saving grace for this song will probably be that there are so many boring ballads - here's to hoping that we get a few uptempo pop songs to come as I really don't want to see this song pick up points on default and do better than molly. Hopefully the jury of music experts will see this as the UK taking the piss and not award it points... If it gets a high jury vote then that really would bring in to question who exactly are these experts!
I think Australia needs to reconsider sending a ballad too because they have a Great singer and as the new kid in the class, they could really wipe the floor with contest if they opt for uptempo.
I still don't think we have a song of perfection in the contest yet this year but a few very good entries.
Put a gun to my head and I'm thinking - although the quality is a universe behind last year - it will probably come around 17th.
But... I just can't rule out a high top ten finish entirely. If the staging can gloss over the fact this is a cheap and nastily produced song, it's a very tricky one to predict.
Most viewed ESC song on the official Eurovision channel by a mile - 400,000+ views. Cant quite work out if Europe are laughing at us or loving the entry - Either way it's certainly got people talking, sharing and viewing which can only be a good thing seeing as we don't get a semi performance and miss out on the extra exposure. I'm not for one minute saying we're going to be a contender but Top 15 is looking a possibility [15 years ago this would have been a disaster for the UK but could be claimed a success these days ]
By the way does anyone know if they actually have a record deal? Or when it's released?
This thing refuses to leave my head! That violin hook is really the biggest earworm I've heard in a while.
I can't get behind it like I supported the likes of Molly and Blue but it's memorable in a ridiculous way!
I'm suffering with violin too (I say 'suffering', but I do actually like the song).
The more I hear it, the more I think it will do well
(the more I hear it, the more deluded i get)
I wonder why the uk never brings back a former entrant anymore? Other counties do it with various success but I do think it's a good idea because there is already a eurovision fanbase/ recognition of the artist in place to an extent. Anyway I say this because I just saw that Jade ewen is doing some tour with Andy Abraham and the first series winner of the voice... Which seems like a total waste of her potential. For me, jade is one of the best singers we ever sent but the choice of song was incorrect and should have been uptempo like her déjà vu performance ... Anyway anybody else feel that we should send jade or another contestant back again? Or should we always send somebody else to have a crack at winning?
I must be the only one to like it The 'bopping' part is called scatting and its what people like Louis Armstrong used to do in the 1940's 50's
Even though I like it I dont think it will win or even come close unfortunatley.
Interestingly the girl auditioned on The Voice, Ive always thought they should make it that the winner of the voice should represent the uk for eurovision.
On first hearing I really like this. Bit quirky and a bit different.
to anyone thinking an upbeat boppy happy clappy song can't do well, I have 2 phrases: busty Polish butter-churner is one, and singing Russian grannies is another.
I rest my case.
They had gimmicks though (women with their breasts almost out and the grannies being grannies) which is part of the reason as to why a massive part of this songs success will be down to the performance. I really want it to be a big performance!
When I was listening through all of the songs last night, this really does stand out for completely the wrong reasons. The production just seems so amateurish, and it really does drag on for a minute too long. I thought this would grow on me but it's actually getting more irritating with every listen. The only way this has a chance of going top 20 in Vienna is with a fabulous stage show which is being promised, without such a thing this is going nowhere.
I've listened a few times and it is growing a bit. At least I can get on board with it in an ironic kinda way, Andy / Josh / Engelbert didn't even have that going for them.
I LOVE IT NOW.
It actually would have made a far better pop-swing song, I really like the violin part and the female singer and the guy is growing on me, aside from the scat part.
But the band name is ironic considering the electro portion of the song is so cheap and nasty. Less velvet, more vile.
I do agree that it's better than Andy/Josh, I always liked Engelbert's song, even though it was doomed from the start
I feel like we have been treated to the demo version and BBC are busy getting someone to transform into something which sounds like it costed more then 50p to produce.
I still hate it =[
Also I bet the staging is another Arlene Phillips production because, you know, she's friends with the BBC.
Scatting records can do well, Scatman John had a huge UK & worldwide hit in 1995, with a song of just purely scatting (hence The name)
This is extremely cringetastic. The guy is awful and the girl is alright but the song is actually quite catchy apart from the intro bit which so dated and crap haha. I actually can't see us finishing last to be honest anything higher than 20th would be acceptable at this stage although I don't want it beating Mollys 17th place finish which I doubt will happen anyway.
Such a odd little song. I do wonder if the BBC guys have some form of dementia though. They can't seriously think this has good chance of winning
*20
I do always think it's 2010 and 2000 was 10 years ago etc. though </3
This definitely won't be starting any scat trends!
Honestly it at least has some semblance of personality. Awful personality sure but this is the UK we're talking about. The best entry of theirs in the 2000s was by a mile Molly and I'm pretty sure that song would have been judged as "meh" by the majority were it not "OUR FIRST NON-AWFUL ENTRY IN LIVING MEMORY".
So many heart attacks about the entry by a country who never sends anything good to begin with.
Can't deny it any longer - I actually kind of like this now. I do think this actually has a chance of doing better than Molly did.
The UK have hit a new low with their entries and the Brits know that but instead choose to go to the warm place near that big river in Egypt.
I've grown to find this so catchy and enjoyable to listen to but I still just cannot ABIDE the scat part
The track will be featuring in my personal chart pretty soon
Was at the monthly Douze Points party in London last night and this came up amongst all the cheesy Eurovision tracks of yesteryear and I never felt more embarrassed for a track. It just doesn't get going, there's nothing in the track to entice people to dance. It's the music equivalent of your drunk uncle singing a Caro Emerald track on your mom's cousin's third wedding.
By comparison, the other cheesy and dated uptempo track of this year, 'Golden Boy', came up and it was the most glorious 3 minutes of the night. Cheese done right.
Everytime I listen to this I find something new to hate about it - SOUNDING GOOD SUGAR. Are they being real!?
I think the silly little interjections of "sounding good sugar" etc. are my second least favourite part after the scat And maybe the horribly produced little instrumental bit where it all goes neon/glow in the dark too
I still don't know about this!! One minute I hate it, cringe and cry laughing, the next I'm like "oh it's not that bad" and bop along to the instrumental.... I don't think I can bring myself to enjoy it non-ironically though.
The scat is absolutely terrible indeed but I love the "sounding good sugar" bits! I enjoy it even more because of them, though not because they're genuinely good
The single cover is...optimistic
'The 2015 United Kingdom Winning Entry'
Seeing as it 'won' absolutely nothing to become the UK entry, are the BBC just expecting it to sweep the board in Vienna?
'Winning Entry'
That looks quite tacky/bland as a single cover. Not that I ever expect much from Eurovision single covers but... eh?
In slightly relevant news, the YT views for this are pushing 1 million and it's not even April yet
For what it's worth (probably not much) I don't think there's been a single recent UK entry that's managed that!
Oh FFs 😒 I really want this to get nil points just for the arrogance of the BBC!
Also if this joke song does well it'd be so brand damaging for the contest in the UK
Not surprised at the single cover - It's been picked up by a tiny indie label who probably went on Microsoft Paint to knock that up. also means that there will be no/limited budget for European promotion.
The single is getting released in April - They should have maybe rush released it to capitalize on all the promo surrounding the UK's choice.
Just posted this in the iTunes thread but I'll post it here too:
'Still In Love With You' has now been released and according to Alex (from the duo) it is due to "public demand"...
Have downloaded as I always buy the ESC entry however released due to 'public demand' clearly shows how much demand there is..... It's currently #74 in the pop chart
It has such mixed reviews, i cant make up my mind if i like it or not, i do think if staged well it will make all the difference.
Added to the Radio 2 C-list from Monday...
This also now on Spotfiy!
Have we won yet??
Lool at his disinterest!!
Good vocal performance but wow it's even more chemistry devoid than Molly's performance last year - hope they sort that out for the final!
They can sing in tune so the statistical likelihood of a national embarrassment on May 23rd is unlikely.
CD single released tomorrow - Doubt it will make an impact on the charts though
Admittedly I haven't found it myself yet but according to an ESC Nation poster, BBC Media Centre say on an article of theirs that ".... Meanwhile back in London, a surprise spokesperson will deliver the voting results from the United Kingdom."
It's Terry Wogan.
That performance was horrendous!
The vocals were absolutely fine but everything else was so bad. The pair looked awkward and completely lacked chemistry, what was with the guy just staring at the girl everytime he wasn't singing - it looked creepy rather than them being in love. The dancing by them both, especially the girl, was so rehearsed and stiff, rather than feeling natural.
This could be a contender for nil points.
It felt like they were making a bit of progress, gaining a bit of momentum during their pre-party tour - and they were the only act to visit all four so well done to them for that - but seeing a proper TV performance for the first time, aside from that Greatest Hits concert video, has probably put them in an even worse position than the initial reveal.
To be fair to Bianca she has been doing that little dance in every single performance and at least she does some movement, but Alex looks so out of place. But yes, if they draw the first half a week on Wednesday in their press conference, zero points is a big possibility. It is unfortunately at Josh Dubovie levels of amateurishness, and he managed his ten points before the full 1-27 jury/televote ranking system something which is going to make it even more difficult for Electro Velvet to get points.
Don't be so silly guys. This is one of the best five songs in the contest
The fact he just stands there grinning is horrific - He needs to move or do something. There seems a distinct lack of interest in the song from the general public despite all the initial hype, The GN performance has helped the song just scrape the Top 150 on iTunes.
Their live performances seem to have got worse, someone break out the emergency choreography quick!
So wooden
The scat/'sounding good sugar' is still going to be the most cringey moment of this year's contest by a mile, short of a miracle.
i have just listened to our entry for the first time and it's absolutely horrendous. what the actual f***.
It's the sort of song that would really benefit from a live orchestra behind it. It actually sounded really good for that reason at Greatest Hits but the other live performances I've seen where the backing track has been used have not been great. Eurovision will be more of the same.
This isn't getting past 24th place.
It deserves 1 point imo, the only thing worse is Finland this year
Nigella Lawson is apparently going to be our spokesperson this year
*.*
Omg yaaaasss
Now THAT is the one thing right about this SHAMBLES
This is amazing news!
I see Riem (of Opening Ceremony female commentator fame) had started her sarcastic remarks earlier in the day when talking to Mike from ESCKaz at the beginning, but YES at him shutting her down "it's about the artists now not us".
And then the Polish journalist accusing last year's UK jury of not voting independently when asking the Head of Delegation (Guy's stand-in) about Donatan & Cleo topping the televoting and coming bottom of the jury vote!
I think everyone has really lost interest in the UK entry now, I think there was such an initial buzz due to everyone watching the video on YouTube after the UK complaining how bad it was
Such a disappointment after last year and the increased interest in the UK - There seemed more general public interest and Molly was steadily climbing iTunes before the contest whereas Electro Velvet appeared for a few hours and promptly disappeared after peaking at something like #131
So predictions for the outcome for EV tonight?!
21st
24th.
27th with "nul point"
Before the running order I might have said a shock top 15 but I don't think that'll be the case now. 22nd sounds like it's going to be about right, there are a few countries we could beat but at the lower end of the scoreboard it'll be luck more than anything.
25th
23rd
The ones I'm thinking we have potential to beat are France, Hungary, Poland & Austria
I'm tempted to put money on an Austrian last place, it would have never made it out of the semis. Likewise France, the UK and probably Germany.
26th
25th, I think Austria and Israel will make up the bottom two.
27th
27th with less than 10 points.
Electro Velvet have done the usual 'this is not the end for us, we have a new single coming out soon!!1!'.
What a chart run 114-156... Actually pleased this has not been a hit even though I feel sorry for EV, I just hope that the BBC take note that they haven't produced a sizeable hit or decent result consistently and a dramatic change is needed! (Wishful thinking I know but surely 'General Public' interest will wane if there is no interest in the song or knowledge of who's representing us year after year?)
Yeah the ratings were way down on the last few years, we really need an act or song that the public will be invested in. I really hope something changes next year, I'm so tired of all of these bottom five results, we're capable of so much better.
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