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Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 09:48 AM

Time for a new change at #1 the competition this week comes from One Direction 'Perfect' and KDA collaborating with Tinie Tempah & Katy B on 'Turn The Music Louder (Rumble)', if KDA reaches #1 it will mark Katy B's first #1 as a collaborating artist. Other new single releases this week come from Diplo & Sleepy Tom 'Be Right There', Take That 'Hey Boy' and X Factor winner from last year Ben Haenow collaborating with American Idol winner from years back Kelly Clarkson on 'Second Hand Heart'.

New album releases this week fighting for a #1 spot come from Nothing But Thieves with their self titled album 'Nothing But Thieves', Jamie Lawson with his self titled album 'Jamie Lawson' and Demi Lovato with 'Confident'. Other new album releases this week from Hillsong Worship, Fightstar, John Newman, Pentatonix, Scouting For Girls, Tori Kelly, Jean-Michel Jarre and Peter Andre to enter the album chart within the top 40.

To keep everyone in the loop of all chart action please refer to the iTunes thread topic.

Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 09:48 AM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: Apple Music (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) and Spotify (Friday, Saturday, Sunday)

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 KDA feat. Tinie Tempah & Katy B - Turn The Music Louder (Rumble) (32.0k) *
2 One Direction - Perfect (24.5k) *
3 Diplo & Sleepy Tom - Be Right There (14.9k) *
4 The Weeknd - The Hills (14.1k)
5 Jamie Lawson - Wasn't Expecting That (13.2k)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 Jamie Lawson - Jamie Lawson (13.0k) *
2 Demi Lovato - Confident (6.6k - 15 copies ahead) *
3 John Newman - Revolve (6.6k) *
4 Nothing But Thieves - Nothing But Thieves (6.2k) *
5 Peter Andre - Come Fly With Me (5.9k) *

Click on the above relevant links

Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 09:48 AM

Tuesday Update Top 40 Only
Missing Data: Apple Music (Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday), Spotify (Monday)

Singles

1 KDA feat. Tinie Tempah & Katy B - Turn The Music Louder (Rumble) (40.3k) *
2 One Direction - Perfect (34.3k) *
3 The Weeknd - The Hills (24.3k)
4 Diplo & Sleepy Tom - Be Right There (20.7k) *
5 Naughty Boy feat. Beyoncé & Arrow Benjamin - Runnin' (Lose It All) (20.0k)

6-10

11-20
12 Ben Haenow feat. Kelly Clarkson - Second Hand Heart *

21-30
23 Fetty Wap feat. Monty - 679
28 Little Mix - Love Me Like You
29 Kygo feat. Conrad Sewell - Firestone

31-40
37 Taylor Swift - Wildest Dreams *
40 Take That - Hey Boy *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Jamie Lawson - Jamie Lawson (14.6k) *
2 John Newman - Revolve (7.7k) *
3 Demi Lovato - Confident (7.5k) *
4 Nothing But Thieves - Nothing But Thieves (6.9k - 9 copies ahead) *
5 Peter Andre - Come Fly With Me (6.9k) *

6-10
6 Jean Michel Jarre - Electronica 1 - The Time Machine *
9 Scouting For Girls - Still Thinking About You *

11-20
11 Fightstar - Behind The Devil's Back *
12 Ludovico Einaudi - Elements *
13 Pentatonix - Pentatonix *
19 The Game - The Documentary 2.5 *

21-30
21 The Kinks - Sunny Afternoon - The Best Of The Kinks *
23 Markus Feehily - Fire *
26 Hillsong Worship - Open Heaven/River Wild *
28 Tori Kelly - Unbreakable Smile *
29 Slaves - Are You Satisfied ^
30 Saxon - Battering Ram *

31-40
35 Paul Simon - The Ultimate Collection ^
38 Michael Jackson - Number Ones ^

Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 09:48 AM

Wednesday Update Top 40 Only
Missing Data: Apple Music (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday), Spotify (Monday, Tuesday)

Singles

1 KDA feat. Tinie Tempah & Katy B - Turn The Music Louder (Rumble) (46.0k) *
2 One Direction - Perfect (38.3k) *
3 The Weeknd - The Hills (30.2k)
4 Diplo & Sleepy Tom - Be Right There (24.5k) *
5 Drake - Hotline Bling (24.4k)

6-10

11-20
12 Ben Haenow feat. Kelly Clarkson - Second Hand Heart *

21-30
22 Fetty Wap feat. Monty - 679
28 Little Mix - Love Me Like You
29 Kygo feat. Conrad Sewell - Firestone
30 Taylor Swift - Wildest Dreams *

31-40
40 Take That - Hey Boy *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Jamie Lawson - Jamie Lawson (16.4k) *
2 John Newman - Revolve (8.6k) *
3 Demi Lovato - Confident (8.0k) *
4 Peter Andre - Come Fly With Me (7.8k) *
5 Nothing But Thieves - Nothing But Thieves (7.4k) *

6-10
8 Jean Michel Jarre - Electronica 1 - The Time Machine *
10 Ludovico Einaudi - Elements *

11-20
11 Scouting For Girls - Still Thinking About You *
13 Fightstar - Behind The Devil's Back *
15 Pentatonix - Pentatonix *

21-30
21 The Kinks - Sunny Afternoon - The Best Of The Kinks *
22 The Game - The Documentary 2.5 *
23 Markus Feehily - Fire *
25 Florence + The Machine - How Big, How Blue, How Beautiful
27 Hillsong Worship - Open Heaven/River Wild *
29 Tori Kelly - Unbreakable Smile *
30 Slaves - Are You Satisfied ^

31-40
34 Paul Simon - The Ultimate Collection ^
37 Saxon - Battering Ram *
39 Michael Jackson - Number Ones ^

Posted by: Hassaan Oct 17 2015, 10:04 AM

I'd love for Ben Haenow to get the #1 spot but I think a lack of streaming sales (where the likes of One Direction will benefit) will let him down. Still he could get the #1 on downloads though.

Posted by: Danvicii Oct 17 2015, 10:11 AM

Not sure how that's going to happen when the album's not out yet.

(it's out November 13 based on itunes)

Posted by: Adam's Cauldron Oct 17 2015, 10:17 AM

Well I hope KDA can bag themselves a #2 at least, and I hope Diplom () can get a top 10 (at least on sales?)

Hoping Demi's album does well too

Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 10:18 AM

hang on... ooops a quick edit coming up, didn't know it was released November

Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 02:28 PM

Twitter

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 17 2015, 02:29 PM

Well that's a shock I guess pre-orders are helping KDA there! (plus no doubt some missing data as the Saturday mids always seem to be weird lol)

Posted by: BlazingLovatic Oct 17 2015, 02:35 PM

Hoping for Demi's first top 5 album

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 17 2015, 03:50 PM

Oh Sh*t

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 17 2015, 04:01 PM

With streaming most likely missing as usual it is likely that One Direction may be #1 tomorrow (when it is included for Friday), but I fully expect KDA to debut at #1.

Posted by: SKOB Oct 17 2015, 04:03 PM

I don't see the point with these Saturday "midweeks", see The Vamps case for reference

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 17 2015, 04:05 PM

I don't see the point in the European currency but it's there so we deal with it.

Posted by: PaulM1983 Oct 17 2015, 04:32 PM

17 (!!) new albums in top 20 according to MR. Top 12 all new.

Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 04:33 PM

I don't see the point in the Number 1 show on Sundays, I'm surprised the show is still going

Posted by: Mart!n Oct 17 2015, 04:37 PM

that feels so funny...Sam Smith has finally dropped but that's what you get on 1 day of sales with a few obscure acts, wait till Monday, most of those will be gone and we are left with 10 or so.

Posted by: Ethan Oct 17 2015, 04:38 PM

promising for kda, he's in with a real shot

Posted by: Josh. Oct 17 2015, 04:50 PM

Very busy week in the albums it seems but hoping Nothing But Thieves make the top 10 albums, not heard it yet but I'm a big fan of Itch, Trip Switch and Wake Up Call so I hope the rest is just as high energy.

Posted by: AcerBen Oct 17 2015, 05:47 PM

Damn I hope it being a busy week doesn't hurt Markus Feehily's chances of a top 10 album.

Posted by: Danvicii Oct 17 2015, 05:52 PM

wow at the album chart clearout. whilst I imagine it won't look like that for long, Faithless are probably in for a massive tumble from #1

TT, KDA and Katy B at #1

Posted by: girl_from_oz Oct 17 2015, 07:38 PM

Those 11 albums mentioned probably among those top 12 new entries, other is The Game probably also Ludvico Einaudi is a contender. Also Markus Feehily, Omi and Coheed and Cambria

Posted by: April Oct 17 2015, 08:04 PM

When I saw the sub-title I thought PJ & Duncan had somehow made their way back into the chart

Posted by: The Hit Parade Oct 17 2015, 10:02 PM

Don't worry, I didn't think he'd have any chance anyway.

Posted by: ThePensmith Oct 17 2015, 10:40 PM

Hahaha same!

Posted by: liamk97 Oct 17 2015, 11:30 PM

This. Really looking forward to what their album has to offer and I'll be gutted if I'm disappointed!

Posted by: MrIndependent Oct 17 2015, 11:44 PM

I'm willing to bet money on the probability of those top twelve new entries being halved by Friday, and there will hardly be much of a clear out beyond the top five.

Posted by: These Days Oct 18 2015, 03:38 AM

Any chance for Demi to end up #1?

Posted by: SKOB Oct 18 2015, 08:29 AM

And Ed Sheeran will be #1

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 18 2015, 09:26 AM

Sunday Update

1 KDA / Tinie Tempah / Katy B
2 One Direction
18 Take That

Thanks to @MintRoyale

Posted by: Hayzayy Oct 18 2015, 11:06 AM

Yes !
I'm so happy for Katy B, now I hope she can do the same with her next solo single

Posted by: Hassaan Oct 19 2015, 10:50 AM

Looks like an Adele re-entry might be troubling the top 10 this week...

Posted by: zenon Oct 19 2015, 04:32 PM

Bieber down to 10 in today's update! = Spotify data missing surely.

Posted by: Rob's broomstick Oct 19 2015, 04:32 PM

Yikes at Bieber's drop
all new top 3 right now too *.* not that it'll stay like that sadly

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 19 2015, 04:39 PM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: Apple Music (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) and Spotify (Friday, Saturday, Sunday)

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 KDA feat. Tinie Tempah & Katy By - Turn The Music Louder (Rumble) (32.0k) *
2 One Direction - Perfect (24.5k) *
3 Diplo & Sleepy Tom - Be Right There (14.9k) *
4 The Weeknd - The Hills (14.1k)
5 Jamie Lawson - Wasn't Expecting That (13.2k)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 Jamie Lawson - Jamie Lawson (13.0k) *
2 Demi Lovato - Confident (6.6k - 15 copies ahead) *
3 John Newman - Revolve (6.6k) *
4 Nothing But Thieves - Nothing But Thieves (6.2k) *
5 Peter Andre - Come Fly With Me (5.9k) *

Click on the above relevant links

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 19 2015, 04:40 PM

I'd imagine a lot of streaming is missing for Justin to be as low as #10!

Posted by: liamk97 Oct 19 2015, 04:43 PM

And Taylor as high as #22!

Posted by: Ryan. Oct 19 2015, 04:45 PM

Incredible for Demi! I'm intrigued to see how close the sales are between Demi and the albums below her, but could a first top 5 album be on its way?

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 19 2015, 04:47 PM

Yeah we just got the full mids from our outside source and there is very little streaming data included right now (not got the specifics as to what data is missing but percentages are VERY low for streams).

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 19 2015, 05:06 PM

Missing Data: Apple Music (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) and Spotify (Friday, Saturday, Sunday)

Posted by: Mango Oct 19 2015, 05:09 PM

So it's basically just sales midweeks

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 19 2015, 05:10 PM

Pretty much haha, there's still some streaming data in but it's completely minimal!

Posted by: Hadji Oct 19 2015, 05:14 PM

The Weeknd will easily overtake Diplo and Ben Haenow will miss the top 10 in the singles and John Newman will easily overtake Demi Lovato in the albums

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 19 2015, 05:18 PM

FTR: Justin Bieber would be easily #3 with streaming included (the gap between 4 and 10 is only around 5K).

Posted by: The Grim Reaper Oct 19 2015, 06:23 PM

Almost a clearout in the albums Top 10 apart from Jess Glynne and Ed Sheeran

Posted by: Brett-Butler Oct 19 2015, 07:04 PM

Yay! Tom Robinson's #52 in the album midweeks!

Posted by: steve201 Oct 19 2015, 07:17 PM

Nothing But Thieves doing well to be top 5 with all these new entries, good album!

Posted by: Ethan Oct 19 2015, 08:00 PM

wow at the album chart turnover ~ some eye-watering drops there for hurts (12-88-), selena gomez (11-68-)...

glad faithless are holding up *relatively* well, had half expected to see them pushed down into the twenties~

oops @ the missing data on the singles ~ fingers crossed kda can see it out over 1d

Posted by: The Hit Parade Oct 19 2015, 09:15 PM

Yes, although he's not going to make the Top 40 so Suedehead won't get to mention the Ray Davies connection in his commentary.

Posted by: Suedehead2 Oct 19 2015, 09:38 PM

Nor will he be able to mention that the Tom Robinson Band was the first band he saw live

Posted by: The Hit Parade Oct 19 2015, 09:48 PM

I've just been listening to an old podcast interview with Tom Robinson. He doesn't explain where he came up with that band name.

Posted by: Aphrodite Oct 19 2015, 10:41 PM

I really hope Take That can hod onto a top 40 position.

Posted by: gooddelta Oct 20 2015, 10:37 AM

The Cliff Richard album is holding up very well with all of the recent pressure from the new entries above. Presumably it will be a big Xmas seller, you can't argue with 75 songs for a tenner if you have a Cliff fan in the family.

Posted by: James1987 Oct 20 2015, 10:55 AM

Really hoping that KDA can just hold out and stop 1D, Katy deserves to get her first number one!

Great to see such a clear out on the album chart, shame it won't push Ed out and no doubt Sam will probably recover enough to stay top 10...

Posted by: pippa Oct 20 2015, 02:19 PM

What a dramatic fall for Selena Gomez in the album chart. Mark from Westlife will be lucky if he achieves a top 40 album.

Posted by: monai Oct 20 2015, 02:45 PM

Anyone know Duran Duran chart position ?thanks

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 20 2015, 03:31 PM

#144. It sold 79 copies on Sunday..

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 20 2015, 06:18 PM

Update in, bear with ~

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 20 2015, 06:41 PM

Tuesday Update Top 40 Only
Missing Data: Apple Music (Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday), Spotify (Monday)

Singles

1 KDA feat. Tinie Tempah & Katy By - Turn The Music Louder (Rumble) (40.3k) *
2 One Direction - Perfect (34.3k) *
3 The Weeknd - The Hills (24.3k)
4 Diplo & Sleepy Tom - Be Right There (20.7k) *
5 Naughty Boy feat. Beyoncé & Arrow Benjamin - Runnin' (Lose It All) (20.0k)

6-10

11-20
12 Ben Haenow feat. Kelly Clarkson - Second Hand Heart *

21-30
23 Fetty Wap feat. Monty - 679
28 Little Mix - Love Me Like You
29 Kygo feat. Conrad Sewell - Firestone

31-40
37 Taylor Swift - Wildest Dreams *
40 Take That - Hey Boy *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Jamie Lawson - Jamie Lawson (14.6k) *
2 John Newman - Revolve (7.7k) *
3 Demi Lovato - Confident (7.5k) *
4 Nothing But Thieves - Nothing But Thieves (6.9k - 9 copies ahead) *
5 Peter Andre - Come Fly With Me (6.9k) *

6-10
6 Jean Michel Jarre - Electronica 1 - The Time Machine *
9 Scouting For Girls - Still Thinking About You *

11-20
11 Fightstar - Behind The Devil's Back *
12 Ludovico Einaudi - Elements *
13 Pentatonix - Pentatonix *
19 The Game - The Documentary 2.5 *

21-30
21 The Kinks - Sunny Afternoon - The Best Of The Kinks *
23 Markus Feehily - Fire *
26 Hillsong Worship - Open Heaven/River Wild *
28 Tori Kelly - Unbreakable Smile *
29 Slaves - Are You Satisfied ^
30 Saxon - Battering Ram *

31-40
35 Paul Simon - The Ultimate Collection ^
38 Michael Jackson - Number Ones ^

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 20 2015, 06:42 PM

1D caught up by 1.5k yesterday due to lots of missing streaming data added, not impossible for them to be #1 with the streaming data still being a bit iffy but KDA will probably take it. The Hills was the biggest seller yesterday but is too far behind to catch up I think.

Posted by: DantomoftheOpera Oct 20 2015, 06:46 PM

Take That probably missing the top 40 then lol what flops

good to see KDA still comfortably #1

Posted by: Hadji Oct 20 2015, 06:46 PM

Take That can wave goodbye to the top 40 although I think it's unfair that a big group like them have to flop despite having so much promotion

Posted by: Dobbo Oct 20 2015, 06:51 PM

So hope Diplo can hang on for top 10!

Oops at Ben Haenow...

Posted by: MishaB Oct 20 2015, 06:52 PM

Ouch at Ben's position!

Posted by: PRISM Oct 20 2015, 06:54 PM

where are Lana and David Gilmour in today's update?

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 20 2015, 07:00 PM

Lana #33, David Gilmour #15!

Posted by: pippa Oct 20 2015, 07:02 PM

I am left disappointed by the Take That position and also Ben Haenow and Kelly Clarkson.

Posted by: mr_pmt Oct 20 2015, 07:11 PM

I don't see how it could miss.

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 20 2015, 07:12 PM

5.6k to make it #1, down 1.9k omg I still believe tho

What about Drag Me Down and Infinity?

Posted by: Dobbo Oct 20 2015, 07:14 PM

Missing streaming data which when added never helps heldback releases. It should be enough with what it's sold so far but can never be certain. Cool was extremely close to being pushed out for example (although I don't recall what it had sold at this point in its week).

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 20 2015, 07:14 PM

I think Infinity will be a safe #2 but #1 certainly isn't impossible!

Drag Me Down #34, Infinity #80

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 20 2015, 07:15 PM

Diplo won't end up lower than about 9 I think.

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 20 2015, 07:15 PM

Also - Diplo won't miss out, I'm fairly sure of it. Not selling as much as those around him but is outselling Sam Smith who is 5k behind at #10.

Posted by: Hadji Oct 20 2015, 07:16 PM

"Perfect" has a chance of climbing to #1 next week as I don't see Fleur reaching #1

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 20 2015, 07:18 PM

They will be releasing the video at midnight today, let's see if they can hit the #1 again. but #2 still awesome tho.

Posted by: DantomoftheOpera Oct 20 2015, 07:18 PM

and considering past form 1D are in for a massive 2nd week drop, so they definitely won't climb to #1

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 20 2015, 07:25 PM

Wouldn't be so sure, with the video dropping tonight. In past cases, the video was either out before the release, or it got released a couple of weeks after the release, so I think it will stabilise the song. Not that I think it will climb to #1 anyway, if there's a chance for that to happen, it's after the X Factor performance when that undoubtedly happens.

Posted by: The Grim Reaper Oct 20 2015, 07:28 PM

Random post...

Kimberley Walsh a chart mod *.*

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 20 2015, 07:34 PM

Scary Halloween name

Posted by: James1987 Oct 20 2015, 07:44 PM

Great to see KDA still leading the way on the singles chart but with just a 6k lead I'm worried the 1D video coming tonight will give them a last minute advantage Katy B MUST get her first, long overdue number one it needs to happen...

At least Diplo's still top 5, should comfortably hold on to a top 7 finish especially as its now up to 2 on iTunes for now anyway

Really hope Peter Andre drops on the album chart...top 50 would be an awful result let alone top 5, I hope Ed Sheeran or Jess Glynne can make up some sales and push him down a few places...

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 20 2015, 07:46 PM

Diplo's only ~2.5k ahead of R. City at #9 right now and they're outselling him so I wouldn't be sure of that top 7 finish just yet. Like Doctor Blind said, #9 looks realistic!

Posted by: Ethan Oct 20 2015, 07:56 PM

it would be a travesty of monumental proportions were that generic 1d dirge to somehow beat the mighty kda to #1~

great result for diplo

HA @ ben whonow missing the top10

Posted by: torresgirl Oct 20 2015, 08:19 PM

Bit disappointed that Ben and Kelly not in the Top ten. Hopefully the gradual build up of promo will make it climb - video came out today.

I am not a fan of this OA/OS thing. Mainly because most people (meaning the general public not Buzzjackers) have no idea how it affects things and can't wait to call "flop"

Posted by: ThePensmith Oct 20 2015, 08:36 PM

True, true. But then again the whole 'charting on downloads alone' saga of 2005/6 was its equivalent when legal downloads began to be counted. It's just a very new concept for most still but it'll be second nature in two years from now. Like Olly went #16 with 'Kiss Me' last week, it's set to climb again going on midweeks as they are now. TBH I actually prefer it in some ways because it's less of the waiting from pent up weeks before it gets released.

Posted by: torresgirl Oct 20 2015, 08:43 PM

Yes Olly debuting at #16 as someone who has a really big fanbase and past success shows you that this is not about Ben. But unfortunately being an XF winner means people are ready to jump on you right off the bat. However the media is being very supportive of him and the song. I even saw an article saying how well he had done to get to #7 in the first midweeks given no-one had heard the song before last Friday and no promo etc. Time will tell I think it will climb You just don't want OA/OS giving out negative vibes from the word go.

Posted by: Jason Oct 20 2015, 08:55 PM

Where's Philip George please?

Damn! I took out a subscription of the Digital Edition of Music Week but only discovered now that they have only 2 midweeks updates on Mondays and Wednesdays.

Is it allowed to say here what's the other midweeks info source you use on Tuesdays and Thursdays?

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 20 2015, 08:58 PM

It's not a public source so we can't say

Philip George is #18 btw! And Olly's not set to climb he's down 3 places but that's not a bad drop compared to The 1975 who are down to #59 oops

Posted by: Jason Oct 20 2015, 09:03 PM

I'm more poor and crying blood tears now. I hate MW

Poor Philip George. I just hope he hangs on another week in the top 20.

Posted by: ThePensmith Oct 20 2015, 09:09 PM

I know what you mean completely. But I think Ben will be alright. I love 'Second Hand Heart' anyway, if it's any indication to what's on his album I'm pleased with the direction he's gone for, there's not many people doing that country inspired pop in music at the moment. He won't turn into James Arthur, put it that way.

Posted by: AcerBen Oct 20 2015, 09:14 PM

Even James Masterton who you'd think would know better goes on about it being "surprising" when OAOS singles by major acts don't enter in the top 10.

Posted by: torresgirl Oct 20 2015, 09:15 PM

No that's "Impossible" Pun intended

I've always had a good feeling about Ben and more than happy with what's happened so far. Fingers crossed

Posted by: torresgirl Oct 20 2015, 09:18 PM

Its odd, maybe some people just like the drama of artists failing. More headline grabbing than explaining why its happening.

Posted by: Umi Oct 20 2015, 09:25 PM

...Why? If a song is by a well-known act and it's well-promoted yet still flops then people just don't like it - that's the definition of fair.

Posted by: The Grim Reaper Oct 20 2015, 09:31 PM

Its always been like that for a long time now... other info is top secret

Posted by: sigmahqfan Oct 20 2015, 09:33 PM

Darn at Ben not being top 10 for Kelly's sake.

Posted by: Jason Oct 20 2015, 09:36 PM

Tell me please and I'll make your fantasies come true.

Nah! Just kidding

Posted by: jay727 Oct 20 2015, 10:14 PM

Very surprised at Take That's Hey Boy performance. Very clear that oa/os doesn't work for them.

Posted by: MrIndependent Oct 20 2015, 10:30 PM

I see that those new entries in the album chart are already eroding away very quickly and making way for King Edsus and Queen Jess Glynneth Paltrow. Yas.

Posted by: mr_pmt Oct 20 2015, 10:46 PM

What have you taken?

Posted by: mowino Oct 21 2015, 12:14 AM

Could Drake reach #2?

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 21 2015, 02:48 AM

Perfect up to #7 on Spotify, KDA outside top 50, still missing AM streams and with video effect, Perfect can go to #2 or #3 on iTunes

Please

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 21 2015, 08:50 AM

Look again: KDA are up to 36.

Posted by: M4NGO Oct 21 2015, 09:01 AM

I think it's clear 1D's chances of being #1 this week are pretty much over.

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 09:31 AM

I wouldn't say that! They have a clear steaming advantage and the video release will no doubt give them a boost later on, plus the EP. I'm still expecting KDA to be #1 but it's not impossible for 1D.

Posted by: Hassaan Oct 21 2015, 09:33 AM

Shame that Ben Haenow might miss the Top 10 but there's still a chance for it to peak again when he begins to perform the song live on television.

Posted by: James1987 Oct 21 2015, 09:37 AM

Up to 19 now on the last update!

Really don't want Perfect to get to number one, KDA deserves to get it this week but its going to be too close to call......

Posted by: M4NGO Oct 21 2015, 09:43 AM

What's on the EP, three brand new tracks? I can't see it on spotify yet!

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 21 2015, 01:33 PM

Perfect to #6

Posted by: Hazza Chapman Oct 21 2015, 01:45 PM

I think Drake will have the best chance he's had so far next week.

Posted by: MrIndependent Oct 21 2015, 02:26 PM

I love 1D but they don't need to be #1 at all; it's not like they have a consecutive run of #1s and Drag Me Down this year was only their second lead single to peak at #1 after What Makes You Beautiful. They will have more success this era than they had with Four. That KDA song is an absolute bop and deserves the top spot very much.

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 21 2015, 03:43 PM

Waiting

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 03:45 PM

Mids won't be here for an hour yet at least so you'll have to keep waiting Music Week is our friend for today. We may get our other source beforehand but as per usual it's not guaranteed.

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 04:57 PM

Wednesday Update Top 40 Only
Missing Data: Apple Music (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday), Spotify (Monday, Tuesday)

Singles

1 KDA feat. Tinie Tempah & Katy B - Turn The Music Louder (Rumble) (46.0k) *
2 One Direction - Perfect (38.3k) *
3 The Weeknd - The Hills (30.2k)
4 Diplo & Sleepy Tom - Be Right There (24.5k) *
5 Drake - Hotline Bling (24.4k)

6-10

11-20
12 Ben Haenow feat. Kelly Clarkson - Second Hand Heart *

21-30
22 Fetty Wap feat. Monty - 679
28 Little Mix - Love Me Like You
29 Kygo feat. Conrad Sewell - Firestone
30 Taylor Swift - Wildest Dreams *

31-40
40 Take That - Hey Boy *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Jamie Lawson - Jamie Lawson (16.4k) *
2 John Newman - Revolve (8.6k) *
3 Demi Lovato - Confident (8.0k) *
4 Peter Andre - Come Fly With Me (7.8k) *
5 Nothing But Thieves - Nothing But Thieves (7.4k) *

6-10
8 Jean Michel Jarre - Electronica 1 - The Time Machine *
10 Ludovico Einaudi - Elements *

11-20
11 Scouting For Girls - Still Thinking About You *
13 Fightstar - Behind The Devil's Back *
15 Pentatonix - Pentatonix *

21-30
21 The Kinks - Sunny Afternoon - The Best Of The Kinks *
22 The Game - The Documentary 2.5 *
23 Markus Feehily - Fire *
25 Florence + The Machine - How Big, How Blue, How Beautiful
27 Hillsong Worship - Open Heaven/River Wild *
29 Tori Kelly - Unbreakable Smile *
30 Slaves - Are You Satisfied ^

31-40
34 Paul Simon - The Ultimate Collection ^
37 Saxon - Battering Ram *
39 Michael Jackson - Number Ones ^

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 04:58 PM

KDA have increased their lead since yesterday but more Spotify data is missing than yesterday so it's hard to tell whether the gap's changed. KDA still looking at #1 anyway.

Posted by: Regina Oct 21 2015, 04:59 PM

At least Matt managed top 10, and didn't even have an international superstar to sing on his single.

Posted by: UltraBasicWitch Oct 21 2015, 04:59 PM

Can the missing data stay missing and finally give Wildest Dreams a week in the top 40

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 05:01 PM

Yet Matt had a held-back release with an X Factor performance on release day

Posted by: BlazingLovatic Oct 21 2015, 05:05 PM

Hoping Demi can hang onto the top 5 of the albums chart...

Posted by: Hadji Oct 21 2015, 05:06 PM

Hope Kygo & Ella can make a return to the top 40

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 05:15 PM

They won't, not this week anyway.

Posted by: Ethan Oct 21 2015, 05:20 PM

encouraging kda is stretching his lead, albeit with missing streaming data, 'rumble' would be one of the best #1's of decade so far

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 21 2015, 05:28 PM

bye

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 05:29 PM

#2 is really good though, no? Higher than both FOUR singles managed!

Posted by: Rafael x Oct 21 2015, 05:35 PM

Yes, but they managed to have that #1 on hands... I'm sure that the gap will be really close bc streaming are missed

Posted by: M4NGO Oct 21 2015, 05:39 PM

Is the missing data likely to be recovered by Friday?

Posted by: Doctor Blind Oct 21 2015, 05:58 PM

Not all of it, but anything that is still missing they account for by up-weighting data received earlier in the week to work out (and include) what the data would have been on the days that are missing.

Posted by: Mateja Oct 21 2015, 06:19 PM

One Direction is releasing an EP at midnight with the acoustic version of Perfect, remix of Perfect, remix of Drag Me Down and a new song "Home". Will that count towards the single sales?

Posted by: Kimberley Walsh Oct 21 2015, 06:20 PM

It will!

Posted by: torresgirl Oct 21 2015, 06:26 PM

No XF performance for Ben yet though

Sorry just seen Joseph already said this

Posted by: Regina Oct 21 2015, 06:31 PM

Matt still slayed, Ben ha flop.

Posted by: liamk97 Oct 21 2015, 10:20 PM

I think it could just make it this week even with full streaming given it's been Top 20 on iTunes all week so far. Still A-list by Radio 1 so could make it the week after if not.


Hard to tell with missing streaming and such close sales. I think Jess and Ed will end up sneaking back in the Top 5 given a good chunk of their sales are streams, but Demi could stay Top 5, even if she is selling the least out of the Top 5.

Posted by: Aphrodite Oct 22 2015, 12:18 AM

Take That top 40,just about,I hope they can stay top 50 now.

Posted by: Hassaan Oct 22 2015, 09:12 AM

As a fan of Matt Cardle and Ben Haenow, without wanting to make excuses, Matt didn't have an OA/OS release. The music video was available at least a month before the song was released. I think Syco will be looking at long-term sales for Ben, #12 at this point I don't think is bad at all, given that the last series of X Factor was far from its most popular. By the time Matt released his single, One Direction and Cher Lloyd had already had #1 singles. Obviously top 10 would be nice but we'll find out tomorrow afternoon.

Posted by: JimmyT Oct 22 2015, 10:04 AM

I'd like to let you down gently, but...
This is as good as it gets for Ben. Its over already.

Posted by: AcerBen Oct 22 2015, 11:34 AM

What happened to that rule that you weren't allowed to include another song currently in the top 40 on your single? One of Boyzone's CD singles got disqualified because it had No Matter What whilst it was still in the top 40.

Posted by: Ryan. Oct 22 2015, 05:25 PM

I'm pretty sure Ben will hit the top 10 once he promotes the song on X Factor!

Posted by: Robbie Oct 22 2015, 05:40 PM

The rule was changed a few years ago. It is now (from the latest Chart Rules, published in March 2015):

4.0 Combining of Transactions

4.1 Criteria for Combining Transactions

c i) The featured song of a Top 40 single cannot be released as a B-side or extra track on a subsequent chart eligible single until the former has dropped out of the Top 40, subject to c ii) and c iii).

ii) If a song that has fallen out of Top 40 is then used as a B-side or extra title on a new release and the original song re-enters the Top 40, the new release will remain chart eligible.

iii) Labels may include previously unreleased remixes or alternative versions of a current Top 40 single on a new release providing the version used has not previously appeared on a chart eligible release.

iii) above should allow the EP to be chart eligible

Posted by: gooddelta Oct 22 2015, 08:30 PM

They really need to do something about this missing streaming data, how many weeks now have they been upweighting streams for to account for missing Thursday data? Essentially it's a fabricated figure making up part of the charts every week, whether it's determined on expected streams or not. As unlikely as it is, a song could get 300k streams all week and then 100k on Thursday but that extra 2k of chart sales could be the difference between a #1 and #2 single on a close week.

Posted by: The Grim Reaper Oct 22 2015, 08:33 PM

I should imagine its backdated to the switch over, when it all went tits up.

Posted by: gooddelta Oct 22 2015, 08:36 PM

Seems crazy to have a system in place where Apple and Spotify physically can't seem to manage the data in time to deliver accurate figures. Makes a mockery of the chart, as I wonder how many times in the last few weeks these upweighted figures have cost somebody a top 10/40 placing on a close week? Probably a few times at least.

Posted by: Doctor Death Oct 22 2015, 08:45 PM

I think they can be pretty accurate, after all they get the data eventually to corroborate. However anything that diverges from the weekly pattern could be either overestimated or underestimated.

Having said this no upweigting was applied to that 5 day chart week in July which was RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: Suedehead2 Oct 22 2015, 08:55 PM

Yes, the problem with streaming started with the change of chart date. Quite why that has proved so difficult for the streaming sites is a mystery to me.

Posted by: The Hit Parade Oct 22 2015, 09:41 PM

You'd think it would be easier to check the data on a weekday than a weekend, wouldn't you?

Posted by: Dircadirca Oct 23 2015, 03:35 AM

I wonder if the problem is that Spotify just has SOOO much data to trawl through and they haven't found a good way to automate the process (considering that their chart updates are never consistent and reliable). There'd be at least 10,000 songs played per second that they have to correctly categorise the country it's coming from, and then they have to frequently distribute the data to all the chart companies that need it. Nightmares just thinking about it.