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> Top of the Pops on BBC4, Part Three - Now into 1990
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post 20th March 2019, 05:06 PM
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Excuse the ignorance, but who is being edited out/the reason why episodes are missed?
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post 20th March 2019, 09:37 PM
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Mike Smith didn't agree to have his Top Of The Pops episodes re-shown when he was still alive, supposedly due to a falling out with the BBC or something, most likely about his bad treatment by them after appearing in the infamous Ghostwatch programme which someone killed themselves over.

The Beeb is now "respecting his wishes" after his death, and hasn't included any of his shows in the repeat run since he started in November 1982. Even though this has meant missing out on a sizeable chunk of episodes, as after appearing in 12 over the course of 1982-84, he presents 16 each year for 1985, 86, and 87 (where we won't be seeing the Christmas show and a whole month of episodes from September- he co-presented those with Gary Davies).

So nothing Yewtree related- frustrating though, when you think that after banned presenters like Savile and Dave Lee Travis stopped in 1984, Smith became one of the hosts with the most appearances for the next few years afterwards until he leaves after March 88!


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post 20th March 2019, 10:16 PM
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Least he's leaving soon enough then, no doubt there'll be some reason not to show other episodes thereafter tho!
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post 24th March 2019, 11:45 PM
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TOTP 25/6/1987 Presented by Simon Bates & Peter Powell

Chris Rea Lets Dance
Bruce Willis Under The Boardwalk (Video)
Pet Shop Boys It's a Sin
Terence Trent Derby Wishing Well
Prince If I Was Your Girlfriend (Video)
Simple Minds Promised You a Miracle (Video)
Cliff Richard My Pretty One
**No1 The Firm Star Treekin **No1 (Video)
John Farnham You're The Voice (Video)



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post 29th March 2019, 07:36 PM
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Under The Boardwalk not sure what to think from Bruce Willis.
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post 30th March 2019, 01:42 AM
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It seemed to be absolutely huge back then, the video was shown a lot on totp for around a month. It's actually quite decent like a 50s soul song!

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post 1st April 2019, 03:47 PM
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Last week's episodes were shown in the wrong order. The Thursday episode was 23/7/87 and Friday's was 16/7/87.
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post 3rd April 2019, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(King Rollo @ Apr 1 2019, 04:47 PM) *
Last week's episodes were shown in the wrong order. The Thursday episode was 23/7/87 and Friday's was 16/7/87.

Yes, that was weird, 16/7/19 only got moved to Friday due to an issue with the video quality of the Madonna playout apparently.

Been a mixed bag in terms of the editions on recently, 9/7/87 with Black, The Christians, and Pet Shop Boys at #1 was a pretty decent one, but 23/7/ was pretty dire, not one song I really liked on that- only saving grace being Simon and Janice as hosts. Though not on the same level as with John Peel, I thought they worked pretty well together, which is a shame as Janice only did one more with him after this about a year on from now in 1988, one of her last episodes in fact.
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post 3rd April 2019, 09:42 PM
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When does the new generation of presenters come into it?

Seem to have moved to the traditional presenters this year - who do we always miss with Smithy?
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post 3rd April 2019, 11:04 PM
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From February 1988,Mark Goodier and Nicky Campbell join as presenters. Then Anthea Turner later in the year. Most of the current batch will keep going for a while but not be seen quite as frequently.
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post 4th April 2019, 07:33 PM
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Yeh Powell leaves in Sept 88 I think - he goes back a long time and has lived through some huge uk chart history lol. He started around 1977/78 I think and looked a lot different back then. Same with simon bates, Steve Wright and a few others.
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post 13th April 2019, 07:56 AM
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Just watching the 16/7/87 episode and Under the Boardwalk video being shown yet again - how many times?? Must have been one of the longest runners of the year!
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post 13th April 2019, 08:16 AM
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16/7/87 TOTP presented by Peter Powell & Simon Bates

Bananarama I Heard a Rumour
Bruce Willis Under the Boardwalk (Video)
Hue & Cry Labour of Love
Kenny G Songbird (Live Sax Performance)
Mel & Kim FLM (Video)
Los Lobos La Bamba (Video)
The Cure Catch (Video)
Boogie Box Jive Talkin (Video)
Freddy McGregor I Just Don't Wanna Be Lonely
***No1*** Pet Shop Boys Its A Sin ***No1***
Madonna Who's That Girl (Video)



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post 14th April 2019, 01:51 AM
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Couple of okay editions on recently, Friday's (13/08/87) probably being the best of the bunch. Do have a soft spot for Def Leppard and their album Hysteria from which Animal is from, and most of the breakers shown were great (Bridge To Your Heart, Just Call, Happy When It Rains, all favourites from this chart). Plus a third showing for Labour Of Love, yet it still not being tiring- good song that. And a good job Jacko hadn't made a video for his #1, or BBC might've had to drop this episode.

Also some interesting points, with Rick's debut and arguably the beginning of the SAW domination, an obscure Australian band Pseudo Echo- giving us Bates' surprisingly truthful prediction for Aussie acts crossing over, as well as the banned version of Wet Wet Wet's Sweet Little Mystery. They were sued by Van Morrison over stolen lyrics in this song after it charted, and the one shown on TOTP recently is the version with the unaltered, plagiarised lyrics, which aren't heard on their album or any music channels showing the video!

Looking ahead to next weeks episodes, its the last couple before Smith comes back and messes everything up with presenting 4 in a row sad.gif Some of the songs we won't be missing out on before he returns include T'pau- Heart & Soul, Then Jericho- The Motive, and the great PSB'S & Dusty Springfield's What Have I Done To Deserve This, as well as some of last week's breakers in full (Wax + Sherrick), and another live vocal performance from Black, with their biggest hit Wonderful Life.
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post 14th April 2019, 11:35 AM
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Do have a soft spot for Def Leppard and their album Hysteria from which Animal is from


Def Leppard's best song easily for me is 'Love Bites'. Not that big a fan of any of their other singles tbh.

'Labour Of Love' is great and a very different pop hit, pity Hue and Cry, like fellow Scottish bad Wet Wet Wet never had another song that was nearly as good as their debut (in my opinion at least).

Just watched the most recent episode now. Rick Astley is on it, the SAW cheesy dance pop bandwagon is starting! Also for cheesy dance pop, Spagna is at #3 with Call Me, its like the sort of equivalent of Jonas Blue of 1987 I think with the combination of the instrumental 'drop' in place of the chorus (it even sounds a bit 'tropical') and sentimental lyrics. I rather like it though.

We now seem to be at the height of the 80s stadium rock era with Def Leppard swiftly followed by Motley Crue. The Wet Wet Wet song 'Sweet Little Mystery' is nice enough if a bit cheesy (rather like ABC's 'When Smokey Sings' also from 1987). Sweet Little Mystery has become a radio favourite over the years though.


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post 14th April 2019, 02:49 PM
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Was this Def Leppards big break through? Their chart history seems to show top 75 hits back until 1979!
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post 15th April 2019, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Apr 14 2019, 03:49 PM) *
Was this Def Leppards big break through? Their chart history seems to show top 75 hits back until 1979!


Yep it does seem to be (they were more an albums than a singles act until 'Animal'), and the second half of the 80s seems to see more hard rock in the charts than the first half - I suppose as new wave mostly died out by about 1985, hard rock took its place in the charts, along with the growing success of guitar based alternative rock (with Jesus and Mary Chain making top 10 in 1987)

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post 15th April 2019, 06:50 PM
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Or hard rock acts creating stadium pop/rock anthems!
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post 17th April 2019, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Apr 15 2019, 07:50 PM) *
Or hard rock acts creating stadium pop/rock anthems!


Yep a lot of them went a bit more chart friendly in the late 80s.

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Plus a third showing for Labour Of Love, yet it still not being tiring- good song that.


Labour of Love sounds more early 80s than late 80s I think, more in common with the alternative pop/new wave of the early 80s than the more polished pure pop of the late 80s, and that's why i like it, it sounds a lot 'lighter' than most of the stuff around the charts at the time.
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post 17th April 2019, 11:11 PM
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The chart seemed very slow between May-Aug 87, seems some of the biggest hits had been around for ages!!
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