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| Chart Replay: Usher vs. Girls Aloud, 15 years on |
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 4th July 2019, 01:05 PM
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 BuzzJack Idol
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It's 15 years since Usher's 'Burn' and Girls Aloud's 'The Show' entered the UK chart. 'Burn' was Usher's follow-up to his massive #1 single 'Yeah!' and second single to be released from Confessions, although original plans were for 'Burn' to lead the album,only changed when 'Yeah!' leaked and received great acclaim. 'The Show' was Girls Aloud's lead single to their second album and saw a change in sound and image; the birth of their cheeky, poppy-synth sound the girls are recognised for. Both were hot contenders to reach #1 but, in the end, Usher finished with a 20k lead over Girls Aloud, debuting with 49,334 sales compared to their 28,572. 'Burn' has since been certified Gold for sales of over 400k, way ahead of 'The Show' which has just over 100k. 15 years on, which is your favourite? |
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4th July 2019, 01:05 PM
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Top 10
01 (NE) Usher - Burn 02 (NE) Girls Aloud - The Show 03 (02) Britney Spears - Everytime 04 (01) McFly - Obviously 05 (03) Mario Winans feat. Enya & P Diddy - I Don't Wanna Know 06 (NE) Kylie Minogue - Chocolate 07 (04) Outkast - Roses 08 (NE) George Michael - Flawless (Go to the City) 09 (NE) Blue - Blubbin' 10 (05) O-Zone - Dragostea Din Tei Top 40 New Entries 11 (NE) Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started 14 (NE) Basement Jaxx feat. Lisa Kekaula - Good Luck 17 (NE) The Ordinary Boys - Talk Talk Talk 27 (NE) Ryan Adams - Wonderwall 30 (NE) 20-20s - Shoot Your Gun 35 (NE) Eighties Matchbox B-Line - I Could Be An Angle 38 (NE) Longview - In a Dream Previous Chart Replays S Club 7 - 'Bring It All Back' vs. Madonna - 'Beautiful Stranger' (1999) ATB - '9 PM (Till I Come)' vs. Whitney Houston - 'My Love is Your Love' (1999) |
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4th July 2019, 01:21 PM
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This is tougher than the previous two of these for me as I like both of them about the same amount but they're both not exactly songs I would ever randomly feel like listening to. Think I'll go with GA here solely because no one needs 'Burn' when the same era gave us the miiiiles better 'Yeah!'
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4th July 2019, 01:23 PM
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Definitely Girls Aloud!
"Burn" was never a fave of mine, he has SO many better songs! |
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4th July 2019, 01:33 PM
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I've grown to appreciate 'The Show' a lot more. I've always liked it but I've never rated it as one of their best and it always annoyed me seeing it tend do so well in Girls Aloud rates and things, especially at the expense of songs I would rate among their best. The past year it's been one I've found myself returning to a fair bit so I think I rate it a lot higher now.
'Burn' is nice but that style of R&B slow jam isn't really my thing. 'Yeah!' remains Usher's best and I don't think it'll be beaten. (Great new entries in the shape of Kylie and BEP that week. 'Everytime' is one of Britney's very best ballads and 'Obviously' is probably my favourite McFly song.) |
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4th July 2019, 01:34 PM
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'The Show' by absolute miles! I've always found 'Burn' really boring... but as others said, at least that era gave us the fantastic 'Yeah!'. I love everything about 'The Show' - super catchy, quintessentially quirky Girls Aloud lyrics, well-produced and a fun video. How has it been 15 years though
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4th July 2019, 01:41 PM
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'The Show' kinda passed me by as a kid which is strange as I distinctly remember 'Jump' and 'Love Machine' from the time.
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4th July 2019, 01:42 PM
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both are pretty meh but The Show is the least forgettable
my fav from Usher is My Boo with Alicia Kerys which was released later that year |
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4th July 2019, 03:43 PM
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'The Show' isn't one of my absolute faves of theirs but it easily beats 'Burn' for me.
'Yeah' is miles better than both of these though. It should've been 'Let's Get It Started' and 'Good Luck' in the top 2 instead, both missing the top 10 is a big injustice. |
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4th July 2019, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 4 2019, 04:43 PM)  It should've been 'Let's Get It Started' and 'Good Luck' in the top 2 instead, both missing the top 10 is a big injustice. They were unlucky to release in a competitive week as they had both sold enough to be Top 10 the previous week. |
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4th July 2019, 04:02 PM
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Burn by far
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4th July 2019, 04:11 PM
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They've had the very Tunnocks, Mary
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Usher literally has two good singles in my opinion: 'Pop Ya Collar' and 'U Make Me Wanna'. This is neither of them, this only got to #1 because it was in that weird time when people stopped buying CD singles in the same quantities they did and gravitated like sheep by default to US R&B and hip hop because it was the in thing (see virtually 25% of the number ones from 2004, with particular gaze on that dreadful Eamon/Frankee whiny dirge we had almost nigh on two months of).
'The Show' is the far better of the two fifteen years on and back then. Girls Aloud meant something huge to fans of out and out pop music like myself back in 2004 and this was why. They were the only ones daring to be different and not go with whatever the flavour of the day was - a lot of it down to Peter Loraine at Polydor/Fascination who believed in them when so many didn't simply because of where they came from, pushing so hard for them, but also Brian Higgins and Xenomania producing all their music and taking the biggest risks with them sound wise and music wise. You would certainly be hard pushed to find anyone else back then recording 'The Show' or 'Love Machine', or even the likes of 'Biology' a year later and making it their own. At this point in their career, they may not have got the radio play or the commercial acceptance that they would get in later years, but they were on the way to it for sure. |
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4th July 2019, 04:25 PM
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One of the biggest names in music for the best part of 2 decades only got a #1 at the peak of his relevance because 'US R&B was the in thing'. Okay then. I guess that explains why he never had any other hits after 2004, and why we never hear his 2004 hits any more... oh wait. You might not like Usher but what a bizarre argument.
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4th July 2019, 04:36 PM
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I don't think I've heard 'Burn' since it was out, so although I couldn't tell you how it goes I do remember it was boring as f***.
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4th July 2019, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 4 2019, 05:11 PM) 'The Show' is the far better of the two fifteen years on and back then. Girls Aloud meant something huge to fans of out and out pop music like myself back in 2004 and this was why. They were the only ones daring to be different and not go with whatever the flavour of the day was - a lot of it down to Peter Loraine at Polydor/Fascination who believed in them when so many didn't simply because of where they came from, pushing so hard for them, but also Brian Higgins and Xenomania producing all their music and taking the biggest risks with them sound wise and music wise. You would certainly be hard pushed to find anyone else back then recording 'The Show' or 'Love Machine', or even the likes of 'Biology' a year later and making it their own. At this point in their career, they may not have got the radio play or the commercial acceptance that they would get in later years, but they were on the way to it for sure. Yeah Xenomania did a fantastic job of creating interesting sounds and structures within the compounds of commercial pop music. It was the same with their work outside of Girls Aloud - I know they worked with Kylie in 2004 and they came up with something really fresh and different for her. |
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4th July 2019, 05:22 PM
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They've had the very Tunnocks, Mary
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QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 4 2019, 05:25 PM) One of the biggest names in music for the best part of 2 decades only got a #1 at the peak of his relevance because 'US R&B was the in thing'. Okay then. I guess that explains why he never had any other hits after 2004, and why we never hear his 2004 hits any more... oh wait. You might not like Usher but what a bizarre argument. Sorry but where did I suggest that he wasn't relevant beyond 2004? I was just stating what one of the trends was that year, which he was part of with two number ones. Don't start putting words in my mouth please. |
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4th July 2019, 05:26 PM
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They've had the very Tunnocks, Mary
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QUOTE(Medellíam @ Jul 4 2019, 05:41 PM) Yeah Xenomania did a fantastic job of creating interesting sounds and structures within the compounds of commercial pop music. It was the same with their work outside of Girls Aloud - I know they worked with Kylie in 2004 and they came up with something really fresh and different for her. They were at the peak of their powers definitely. Also I loved the Kylie single that was new that week. I seem to be one of the few fans who loved 'Body Language' when that came out! |
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4th July 2019, 05:37 PM
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Burn is definitely the better song but both are average.
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4th July 2019, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 4 2019, 06:22 PM) Sorry but where did I suggest that he wasn't relevant beyond 2004? I was just stating what one of the trends was that year, which he was part of with two number ones. Don't start putting words in my mouth please. QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 4 2019, 05:11 PM) this only got to #1 because it was in that weird time when people stopped buying CD singles in the same quantities they did and gravitated like sheep by default to US R&B and hip hop because it was the in thing My point is the fact that he was still having huge hits for a full decade after this is probably a pretty good indication that this isn't true. |
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4th July 2019, 06:16 PM
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The Show is decent but Burn is one of Usher's bests and up there with the best of 2004.
Yeah! is so overrated and ridiculously overplayed - can't hit the skip button quickly enough... This post has been edited by dobbo: 4th July 2019, 06:19 PM |
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