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Posted by: Mack. 30th June 2018, 10:18 AM

It is a repeat of their 1998 group stage fixture between Colombia v England in this second round. The last match of the second round.


The game is live on ITV. Please use this thread for speculation, pre and post match chat on the England game.


How do you see this going for England?

Posted by: Dobbo 30th June 2018, 10:29 AM

Not well. If we can start strong & take an early chance or 2 we've got this but it seems too much of a stretch. Colombia are so much better than Tunisia or Panama & they have the individual superstars in Falcao & James to punish any sloppy defending.

Posted by: Rooney 30th June 2018, 10:33 AM

It's a test for me, we'll see how good this England team actually is. If James does not play then Colombia are far weaker and make no mistake about it, this side is not as good as they were 4 years ago. It's difficult to read too much in to the Belgium game as we played such a different team. Nobody from that game forced their way back in to the lineup so I think Southgate will go with the same XI as started against Tunisia.

Set up for a big game regardless, looking forward to seeing how it goes.

Posted by: The Snake 1st July 2018, 08:56 PM

I think England will have to play a bit like Russia did today against Spain. They have to be well disciplined like they were in defence and try to disrupt Colombia's flow, let them pass the ball about but not to get too close to the box. Hopefully England can counterattack well too.

Posted by: Mart!n 1st July 2018, 09:07 PM

I think we can push them to the limit. The only problem with this match is televised on ITV, we lost the last match which was shown on ITV will lightning strike twice.

Posted by: Suedehead2 1st July 2018, 09:46 PM

I'm not sure that playing for penalties os a good idea

Posted by: Rooney 1st July 2018, 09:49 PM

I'd be very surprised about that, our back line and goalkeeper is by far the weakest part of the team. We like to keep possession and so do Colombia. I suspect it will be quite an even;y balanced game, all depends on who takes their chances. Looks like James will play, whether he is fit or not is an entirely different option.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 1st July 2018, 10:31 PM

Colombia will walk it. Colombia vs Mexico final.

Posted by: Mack. 2nd July 2018, 10:01 AM

250/1 it is for a Colombia v Mexico final.

Posted by: Midge 2nd July 2018, 10:04 AM

It's funny just how pessimistic England fans have become. I mean, it makes sense, but I think this year is the year we get it right. I'm not saying we'll win it but there's something different about the team this year. I'm excluding the Belgium game from my views because that was an utterly pointless exercise, clear that they were playing for a loss, with our 2nd best set of players playing theirs. Colombia will be the first real test and I think the boys will go out there and really perform.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 2nd July 2018, 10:50 AM

!!

Imma have to put a few pounds on it

Posted by: Dobbo 2nd July 2018, 11:27 AM

It's perfectly justified pessimism given how so often in the past we've been optimistic & the team has massively underachieved. The facts are we haven't won a knockout game in 12 years & haven't beaten what most people would consider a strong team since Argentina in 2002. We scraped past an average Tunisia side & I think the Panama demolition has gotten a lot of folks expectations rather uncomfortably high!

Posted by: Midge 2nd July 2018, 01:31 PM

Different team to the one from the last 12 years. Players breaking through with everything to give. Let's see hey?

I don't think we scraped past Tunisia either. If theirs was a penalty, 2 of ours should've been penalties. That's potentially 4-1 (or 2-0). Lingard was very off target, we needed to be more clinical and were so against Panama.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 2nd July 2018, 03:55 PM

Oops.

Glad I didn't bet on that.

Colombia v France/ Brazil then

Posted by: Mart!n 2nd July 2018, 04:01 PM

Ha Ha, you better stop predicting

Posted by: Rooney 2nd July 2018, 06:49 PM

The issue is and why many logical England fans like myself and Dobbo are not getting swept away with the emotion is because this England team has massive holes in it. We've not been tested yet properly, our backline is inexperienced and very weak. I don't rate Pickford and Maguire is a huge weak link for me. The players we have now are nowhere near as good as the team we had in 2010 for example, but that failed because we picked the players rather than the team.

Posted by: mdh 2nd July 2018, 06:51 PM

Also seems like every British person that isn't English seems to hate the idea of England doing well? I've seen so many Scots and Irish people on YouTube and Facebook calling England 'shite' and hoping they get knocked out.

Don't understand it myself.

Posted by: LeeWallace 2nd July 2018, 07:44 PM

The only reason that I don’t want England to do well is because of the media, the ignorance is irritating and the way the media show England is what annoys me.

Posted by: Rooney 2nd July 2018, 08:30 PM

It comes from jealously and old rivalries, especially with the Scots. Can bet your bottom dollar if the tables were turned all the English would be hating on the Scots or Irish.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 2nd July 2018, 08:37 PM

Is there any point for this match?

It's coming home!

/s

Posted by: Crazy Chris 3rd July 2018, 08:45 AM

My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 09:52 AM

Could have sworn you thought Colombia was an easy match a while ago.

Still, I don't think the media have been unreasonable this time around. Certainly nowhere near to the level of 2006/2010. The coverage compared to other teams is only natural because England's the only home nation there, the pundits have been pretty balanced and not arrogant, and you should just ignore any tabloid and rag nonsense as a matter of course.

Also, it's coming home (still not tired of that meme).



I don't think it does go that far the other way. The English as far as I could see mostly supported Wales doing so well in the Euros, and as much as Scotland's ineptitude at major football championships amuses me, I'd love to see them back in one again and get to the knockout round their footballing history owes them, they haven't been to one this century after all.

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 12:24 PM

Yeah 2006 was the worst when it came to media hype, journalists were saying that England would win the World Cup months before the tournament started. There were lots of TV adverts about England winning the World Cup then as well.


I think that's why a lot of non-English people don't want England to win the World Cup because of how cocky the media gets a lot of the time and there's normally not much reason to be carried away in the first place.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 12:33 PM

It's because the media and the lyiads go on stupidly every time they even win a single match when England is an absolutely rubbish team and always has been. They get carried away over a crap team. This then puts a lot of pressure on said carp tram. Then, players like Beckham have effigies burned of them when the team goes out etc and hate mobs and attack dog press hate - which they usually reserve for any politician who isn't Tory. This puts even more pressure on the weak team. Penalties come and, oh, they're out.

QUOTE(WhoOdyssey @ Jul 2 2018, 09:37 PM) *
Is there any point for this match?

The players are coming home tomorrow.


My thoughts exactly.

This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: 3 hours ago

Omg this!!

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 12:52 PM

We are the most over-hyped team in the world.

Posted by: The Snake 3rd July 2018, 01:03 PM

Although you don't know how other countries' media hype their national teams compared to how they actually perform!

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 02:51 PM

We are the most over-rated team in the world then!

Posted by: Red Blooded Man 3rd July 2018, 03:13 PM

I understand the pessimism and caution but some of you guys are literally comparing England to San Marino...

Posted by: DJHazey 3rd July 2018, 04:21 PM

Let's see this many goals from England today.

Posted by: mdh 3rd July 2018, 05:14 PM

I haven't even see the media suggest we're going to win this year? What's wrong with being positive; having such a cynical attitude isn't going to help the team.

(though it does seem that the people calling us 'shit' are from other country's with worse football teams...)

Posted by: Dobbo 3rd July 2018, 05:23 PM

It's ALL over the BBC Sport website & the pundits basically keep stating it. Either way hype is irrelevant let the football do the talking come on England!

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 06:20 PM

The crowd don't like England do they? Significant more booing compared to the three games.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 06:23 PM

It's in Russia

Have they lost yet?

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 06:29 PM

No, 0-0.

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 06:37 PM

ITV curse to strike?

Posted by: Harve 3rd July 2018, 06:39 PM

Irish people aren't British pal.

The only time I actively hoped England would lose was in 2016 Euros and the stars aligned to give me three reasons for that. I'm otherwise pretty supportive, although it becomes difficult when things go overboard.

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 06:40 PM

It's kicking off.

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 06:42 PM

Barrrios is one lucky man to still be on the pitch.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 06:42 PM

Surely that was a red card

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 06:47 PM

I'll be surprised if this stayed with both teams with 11 on the pitch. Tempers will flare.

Posted by: mdh 3rd July 2018, 06:51 PM

Was referring to Northern Ireland 'pal'

EDIT - don't wanna dp but what a bloody nervewracking first half. eek :x

Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd July 2018, 06:51 PM

Well this is not making these nerves any easier, getting brutal.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 06:53 PM

England have been very dominant in that first half, a few attempts on goal, the might get one or two in the second half.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd July 2018, 06:53 PM

That definitely should have been a red card earlier.

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 06:56 PM

The squabbling is laughable. Colombia are not making it easy to like them, I really hope we can show them up in the second half.

Posted by: Rooney 3rd July 2018, 06:59 PM

Game is pretty much two teams cancelling each other out. Should have been a red card.

That said none of our attacking play is coming off.. could be a very long night. Can't see us scoring from open play right now.

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 07:07 PM

Penalties maybe?


This match so far is reminding me of the England Vs Portugal match in the 2006 World Cup. Colombia are trying hard to wind England up right now!

Posted by: Harve 3rd July 2018, 07:11 PM

The Irish contingent of Northern Ireland still aren't British though, meanwhile the rest of the population probably won't appreciate you calling them Irish~~

I also don't see why countries should feel obliged to support their neighbours over someone else, and if the reason is due to 'patriotism' then it shows the conflation between England and Britain that can occur.

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 07:16 PM

Penalty!

Colombia losing their discipline.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 07:16 PM

Those Columbians need shooting

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 07:16 PM

Come on smash it

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 07:19 PM

Columbia have been incredibly poor, no idea why they’ve been playing at!

Posted by: danG 3rd July 2018, 07:20 PM

HA! Finally. England deserved that, Colombia have been really dirty tonight.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 07:21 PM

England lucky not to get a red card there...

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 07:22 PM

They do need to shoot into the goal to level.

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 07:25 PM

Colombia can’t stop fouling. Ridiculous play.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 07:26 PM

They need to keep that lead and defend well, another goal to them should rattled their cages

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 07:30 PM

England need to keep calm and not let their discipline.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 07:31 PM

Stuck £50 on over 8.5 yellow cards 5 minutes ago, so two more yellow cards and I’m £60 up!

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 07:37 PM

They need to bring on Vardy and Lotus Cheek now

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 07:40 PM

Make a substitution now, Gareth.

Posted by: Suedehead2 3rd July 2018, 07:46 PM

Who slowed that clock down?

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 07:47 PM

Don't you concede a goal now, Sweden awaits us

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 07:47 PM

Living dangerously here now England.

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 07:54 PM

It was at that moment, I knew, we f***ed up.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 07:54 PM

Yes they are, as the British Isles geographically refers to ALL of Ireland and Britain and the islands surrounding it.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 07:55 PM

f***

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd July 2018, 07:55 PM

FFS

after Colombia's attitude they do not deserve to win this!

Posted by: Seinfeld 3rd July 2018, 07:55 PM

Bollocks

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 07:57 PM

That is unfortunate. I was all ready to be done with this.

Posted by: Jade 3rd July 2018, 07:58 PM

This has really tested my stress levels how annoying for that to happen so late in the game

Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd July 2018, 07:59 PM

Well shit, Colombia have really stepped up since that shocking play. Gonna be a horrible half hour.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd July 2018, 07:59 PM

Colombia really wouldn’t deserve to go through, the way they’ve played.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 3rd July 2018, 08:00 PM

I really hope England can finally win their first penalty shootout!

History could be made

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 08:00 PM

All those people who underestimated Colombia must feel like mugs now! This is why you should never take any opponent for granted.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:01 PM

Yaaaaaaaasssssssss

What a save from Pickford though!

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 08:01 PM

Same old England.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 08:02 PM

Hopefully we get a goal without going to penalties. Still got to play 2 substitutes

Posted by: Suedehead2 3rd July 2018, 08:10 PM

England beat Spain in Euro '96 on penalties.

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 08:11 PM

Hence why Spain are the only team with a penalty record worse than us... I think.

Posted by: Suedehead2 3rd July 2018, 08:19 PM

Spain must be so proud

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 08:19 PM

This.

Tears before bedtime tonight!

Posted by: Rooney 3rd July 2018, 08:26 PM

The equaliser has shell shocked England, so poor right now. Gonna have to lay the blame with the manager, his subs did anything but kill the game for us. Dier has to be the most overrated player in the Premier League, he’s absolute gash.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:30 PM

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 08:31 PM

Only now Rashford has come on.

Posted by: Seinfeld 3rd July 2018, 08:34 PM

Dier should have scored there.

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 08:40 PM

Penalties then. Well that's it then.

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 3rd July 2018, 08:40 PM

Penalties, yay.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd July 2018, 08:41 PM

Stranger things have happened then England winning on penalties. Not over until it’s over.

Posted by: Rooney 3rd July 2018, 08:41 PM

Don’t hold much hope with penalties, it’s ofyen a mentality thing. We’re alrewdy beaten before we take a kick!

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 08:42 PM

Its not over until the fat lady sings

Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd July 2018, 08:42 PM

I mean we really should’ve seen this coming at some point shouldn’t we? :’)

Here’s to breaking the curse? ()

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 08:42 PM

Even if England go on to win this penalty shoot out this experience should teach all of the pundits not to be so cocky in future.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 08:44 PM

This is the part I can't watch, I think I watch from behind the sofa

Posted by: dandy* 3rd July 2018, 08:47 PM

Watching this in a bar in Ischia, half full of English and half Colombian - it’s quite the atmosphere!

Posted by: dandy* 3rd July 2018, 08:47 PM

Ps I remember now why I don’t usually watch football!

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:48 PM

Feel like England will win this though.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:49 PM

Ha at Henderson taking a penalty!

Bottle itn

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:49 PM

Yaasssssssss

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:49 PM

Yassssssssss

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 08:49 PM

He bottled it.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:50 PM

Excellent penalties

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 08:52 PM

Yesssssss

Posted by: Mack. 3rd July 2018, 08:52 PM

I'm glad I was proved wrong.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 08:53 PM

f***ing hell they did it

Posted by: Jade 3rd July 2018, 08:53 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Every single stage of this match was excruciating but got there in the end, thank goodness!

Posted by: danG 3rd July 2018, 08:54 PM

it's coming home!!1!1!

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 3rd July 2018, 08:54 PM

PHEW. Let's hope we can do better against Sweden then.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 08:54 PM

Eric Dier not overrated anymore

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 08:54 PM

No one is gonna be singing coming home after tonight

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 08:55 PM

England win on penalties at the World Cup... what am I witnessing?

Yes

Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd July 2018, 08:55 PM

YES *.* even if it doesn’t come home, at least that jinx is gone!

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 08:55 PM

Semi-finals here we come, we could easily take Sweden after their match today.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 08:58 PM

100% sure Sweden are saying the same about England after that performance.

Posted by: Klaus 3rd July 2018, 08:59 PM

Posted by: UltraReputation 3rd July 2018, 08:59 PM

Omg that was stressful af 😂😂

Posted by: mdh 3rd July 2018, 08:59 PM

Really good performance - we were all over them in that extra time second half! Bloody over the moon

Posted by: Klaus 3rd July 2018, 08:59 PM

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 08:59 PM

This

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 08:59 PM

Cockiness is still alive it seems


England getting through by the skin of their teeth, I feel bad for Colombia.

Posted by: mdh 3rd July 2018, 09:00 PM

Didn't you say Columbia would smash England?

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 09:01 PM

Again, it will be an even match. We just have to approach it with caution and the Sweden team with respect. Just like we did this match, at least the saner members of the England supporters did.

Posted by: Bré 3rd July 2018, 09:02 PM

That is all.

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 09:04 PM

Guys, if you think we're being cocky, you're wrong. We're just confused and fluctuating in our approach. One minute we will be full of bravado, the next, self-deprecating to the last. It's a sign of how passionate we can get about football.

Posted by: The Snake 3rd July 2018, 09:06 PM

I feel bad for Colombia too as Houdini does, but Well done to England , I am sure Sweden will make it difficult for England in the next match with their organised defending and quick counterattacks, so England shouldn't underestimate them!

Posted by: Botchia 💡 3rd July 2018, 09:07 PM

That so f***ing tense but I'm ecstatic England broke both the ITV and penalties curse in one match *.* The commentator is right that England definitely needed a penalties win.

The game itself was dreadful though. A return back to the shoddy 2010-14 era England. Panicky, sloppy, lack of attack. Really bad stuff and then to concede an equaliser in the last couple of minutes of injury time is just the cherry on the cake. I hope they learn some big lessons from today because Sweden will be tough. We don't have a good record against them. The only thing better is that it will be more traditional football without the dirty tactics and dramatics that we've seen from Colombia, Tunisia and Panama.

Posted by: Klaus 3rd July 2018, 09:09 PM

I JUST WANT A GAME WITHOUT HUGGING, DIVING, PIGGYBACKING, PUSHING AND ANYTHING SIMILAR

IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK

Posted by: T Boy 3rd July 2018, 09:10 PM

I wouldn’t feel bad for Columbia, they played dirty and got their just desserts. And this is coming from someone who is not an England fan.

I think lower expectations are working in England’s favour. The team do not come across as cocky and actually seem to be working better as a team then they have for years.

Still, I’m getting a little tired of the phrase ‘it’s coming home’ especially when uttered by my students multiple times a day and I have to remind them that, whether they like it or not, they live in Wales and so football certainly isn’t going home to them.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 09:10 PM

IT ISN'T FOOTBALL WITHOUT THAT

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 09:12 PM

Pickford was amazing saving those last 2 penalties, let's all hug PICKFORD

Posted by: Botchia 💡 3rd July 2018, 09:12 PM

Colombia were dreadful, they displayed a shocking lack of sportsmanship. They definitely deserved to lose as does anyone playing like that.

On the subject of thrashing Sweden, it will be super close imo. If we play like that against Sweden we'll certainly be in trouble!! Really poor stuff. Where were the chances? I could count them on one hand from an entire 120 minutes....

Posted by: Suedehead2 3rd July 2018, 09:13 PM

Even given the way they played?

Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd July 2018, 09:15 PM

I would feel bad for any team that lost, but come on, Colombia's play was really dirty and foul-ridden for the majority of that match, they calmed down admittedly and did have some good shots but were undeniably the worse team in terms of fair play (we weren't perfect in that regard either, but being realistic here). They did not deserve it, and this is coming from someone that was happy Iceland beat England after the way they played in that game.

I don't think it's really cocky to assume that after their performance today that we have a decent chance against Sweden, they weren't particularly good today, granted we weren't particularly good either. They could easily wear us out and we have to be ready for that, but keeping a positive mindset isn't a crime.

Posted by: LewisGT 3rd July 2018, 09:16 PM

I seriously can't believe this is real. WE WON ON PENALTIES!!!

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 09:20 PM

Ok ok maybe a couple of me predictions have been wrong so far.

So!

For me next predictions:

A France vs England/ Sweden final

But England scraping past Sweden would be something ELSE. Sweden AAALWAAAYS destroys England and with EMBARRASSINGLY good goals, historic goals, too.

England needs to sort its head out and join with Wales and Scotland for Gareth Bates, etc. He is wasted in a Welsh team as it will never get to the same level as England. So, join it all together! Invite Ireland in too for a UK and Ireland team. It's the only way England will EVER win again.

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 09:21 PM

It's not the team that are cocky. It's all the people saying "It's coming home" after every England match even though there are stronger teams still left in the tournament. The people saying "We'll beat them easily", and it's the media in general.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 09:21 PM

Can klaus die?

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 09:22 PM

I will piggy back you into a very deep ocean.

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 09:24 PM

No means NO!! Keep that tallywacker away from his snack shack!!

Posted by: Queef of Skreech 3rd July 2018, 09:25 PM

This!

Posted by: Brett-Butler 3rd July 2018, 09:28 PM

So that's the penalty curse & the ITV curse lifted by England. Which means that their next match will be on BBC, and will lose on penalties.

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 09:33 PM

You are... aware that 'it's coming home' is as much an ironic meme (albeit stretched to its limit as a humourous device by this point) as anything else, right? Maybe a large portion of deluded people across the country genuinely believe we have an easy ride to the final now but anyone who's looking at it a bit closer and keeping a clear head about that won't start really believing it until the semis.

Posted by: Midge 3rd July 2018, 09:34 PM

I would love to watch a penalty shootout with you

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 09:39 PM

If that's the case then fair enough but it doesn't appear to be ironic. It just sets England up for relentless banter if/when they get knocked out, it's a pattern of events that I've seen happen so many times in the past.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 09:39 PM

My teams always lose so I have heartache at the end x

Posted by: Botchia 💡 3rd July 2018, 09:39 PM

Equally if we do get through Sweden to the SF, it will be on ITV and may well go to penalties again

Posted by: Crazy Chris 3rd July 2018, 09:43 PM

I think if get to the semis then the Gentleman's TV agreement will go out the window and it'll be on both channels. Happened once before.

Posted by: Midge 3rd July 2018, 09:48 PM

Usually the same for me too... it couldn't get much worse than the 2008 Champions League Final.

Posted by: Midge 3rd July 2018, 09:49 PM

God I hope so. Can't stand ITV's coverage, particularly Glenn Hoddle: a candidate for most boring man in Britain.

Posted by: Rooney 3rd July 2018, 09:50 PM

To be fair the 'It's coming home' stuff is a bit of both irony and people believing the emotion. There are some great memes which take the piss out of it.. the Andy Murray one earlier was hilarious.

WHAT A RESULT. Absolutely shite game, two teams cancelled each other out, the only way goals were being scored in the game was through set pieces, which both were. Southgate's subs were horrible. Dier completely killed the rhythm and the midfield was at fault for setting the wheels in motion for allowing Colombia back in the game. Trippier should have done better.. awful to concede a goal then when you have your posts covered.

What a fantastic set of penalties from England though... I thought Henderson's was decent and was a really good save from Ospina. I didn't fancy him to score one though, he's nowhere near them for Liverpool usually and we're no gifted with excellent penalty takers. Don't know why Vardy didn't take one? Anyway onwards to Sweden whuch will be a difficult game, but while England lack creativity we are solid, hard to beat and good from set pieces.

Posted by: Iz 3rd July 2018, 09:52 PM

My deep down feeling is that I'm still having to blink and pinch to check we're actually in the quarters. This is entering unfamiliar territory now. The last few tournaments, we've been eliminated well before where most people have our expectations set at. The banter quotient is much higher when you lose earlier compared to where you were expected to perform. Hereonout, it's all good.

Posted by: Botchia 💡 3rd July 2018, 09:56 PM

It won't happen in this day and age, it's only happened once before in a very different TV climate.

And then from a business perspective, ITV would be gifting away their biggest potential ad revenue this century perhaps even of all time given inflation?! No business in their right mind would agree to that and I'd be gobsmacked if they did.

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2018, 09:59 PM

Posted by: Evil Houdini 3rd July 2018, 10:04 PM

As a Man Utd fan I absolutely loved that penalty shoot out but when John Terry stepped up to take a penalty I was a nervous wreck!




I think the final is going to be shown on both BBC and ITV. I would be surprised if the same thing doesn't happen for England's semi final if they get there.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 3rd July 2018, 10:06 PM

Apparently it's only a gentleman's agreement and not legally binding so there would be nothing to stop the semi being shown on both channels, despite what they've agreed before.

Posted by: LeeWallace 3rd July 2018, 10:47 PM

John Terry

Posted by: Suedehead2 3rd July 2018, 10:51 PM

One thing noticeable about the penalties tonight is that neither goalkeeper strayed far from his line - unlike the earlier soot-outs in this tournament. Is it too much to hope that FIFA have finally decided to have a crackdown?

Posted by: Suedehead2 3rd July 2018, 10:55 PM

I've a feeling the gentlemen's agreement dates from after Euro '96. Therefore, it hasn't yet been tested by England eating as far as a semi-final. I assume ITV will have first pick of the semi-finals. Therefore, they will not be happy if the BBC went ahead and showed both matches if England get that far. After all, the majority of the audience is almost bound to watch the BBC coverage (even if they inflict Mark Lawrenson on us) which would mean ITV potentially losing a lot of advertising revenue.

Posted by: Oliver 3rd July 2018, 10:59 PM

I thought that England, for the first hour, we’re very solid defensively (which is something I never thought I’d say) but then the wheels fell off in that last half an hour.

I literally only watched Dier’s penalty, all the rest I looked at looked at the floor!

I think people are being a bit too harsh on England’s performance; it was one of our better performances in the last few years and Colombia were incredibly dirty in their play. I think it’ll be a nice, even match between us and Sweden, close like it was this.

I had a bet on England to win 1-0 with Harry Kane to score a penalty in the second half so was absolutely devastated when we conceded in the 93rd minute!!!!

Posted by: Severin 3rd July 2018, 11:06 PM

I'm sorry but what???? Sweden have beaten England 3 times in the last 10 games, only 1 of which wasn't a friendly.

Actually just seen the last part of your post which screams troll, so yeah, whatever

Posted by: Dobbo 3rd July 2018, 11:26 PM

Death, taxes & England losing on penal...

I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!

Posted by: Rooney 3rd July 2018, 11:30 PM

Posted by: vidcapper 4th July 2018, 05:50 AM

Glad to see that national pride isn't completely dead.

Posted by: Mack. 4th July 2018, 07:10 AM

That would never happen regarding a UK and Ireland team. Bale wasn't wasted in Euro 2016.

Posted by: Midge 4th July 2018, 08:50 AM

That slip... it was too much

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There are a lot of people claiming England were diving all over the place and cheating. Either we're being biased or Colombia were playing very dirty because that's what I saw. Sure Henderson exaggerated the headbutt situation but at the same time, if he hadn't, the referee wouldn't have even noticed, and I don't think VAR is making a point of going back to certain things the referee has missed. I mean, he didn't even go to look at the screen to see the foul.

Posted by: Rooney 4th July 2018, 05:54 PM

You can bet your bottom dollar that if the table's were turned and that happened to a Colombian player they would have fallen to the floor like a sack of spuds. Unfortunately while time wasting and cheating is a part of the game, you have to play the dark arts. Why do you think the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona are so successful? Just like Ali when he decided to shake everybodies hand before he went off.. I remember watching a game earlier in the World Cup where the commentators were calling out and opposing team for doing that, yet for Ali it was fine!

Posted by: Steve201 4th July 2018, 08:57 PM

Why?? They were dirtbags and that's coming from an Irish man!!

Posted by: Steve201 4th July 2018, 09:31 PM

They have believe me -