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Posted by: Mrs. Potts Jul 17 2017, 10:11 PM



Sooo, I did one of these countdowns for http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=194141&hl=Potter last year in preparation for Fantastic Beasts and now I'm starting to get more and more excited for Episode 8 so I'm going to be counting down my top 50 Star Wars characters - starting this week!

I hope you'll join in and discuss some of cinema's most iconic characters with me! I'll keep a running list here in the opening post as I go along.

THE COUNTDOWN:
50. Coleman Trebor
49. Luminara Unduli
48. Plo Koon
47. Saesee Tiin
46. Bib Fortuna
45. Admiral Ackbar
44. Boba Fett
43. Orson Krennic
42. Lando Calrissian
41. Aayla Secura
40. Lama Su
39. Greedo
38. Watto
37. Sebulba
36. Jyn Erso
35. Shaak Ti
34. Jango Fett
33. Kit Fisto
32. Wicket
31. Grand Moff Tarkin
30. Kylo Ren
29. Rey
28. Galen Erso
27. Finn
26. Anakin Skywalker
25. Chirrut Imwe
24. Maz Kanata
23. Ki-Adi-Mundi
22. Jabba the Hutt
21. Cassian Andor
20. Padmé Amidala
19. Poe Dameron
18. Chewbacca
17. Qui-Gon Jinn
16. Luke Skywalker
15. Jar Jar Binks
14. Darth Maul
13. BB-8
12. R2-D2
11. K-2SO
10. Mace Windu
09. General Grievous
08. Han Solo
07. Count Dooku
06. C-3PO
05. Chancellor Palpatine // Darth Sidious
04. Darth Vader
03. Leia Organa
02. Obi-Wan Kenobi
01. Yoda

Posted by: T Boy Jul 17 2017, 10:14 PM

Omg, so here for this!

Posted by: Josh! Jul 18 2017, 06:39 AM

I'm going to be kicking this off tomorrow now that I have my list finalised. I feel like my #50 is going to get a bit of a wtf reaction laugh.gif

By the way, this is only going to be characters from the movies and not the TV shows!

Posted by: Josh! Jul 19 2017, 05:32 PM

Ok, so this is basically just the 'Jedi Nobodies' section which are characters that pretty much have nothing to do but really cool character design which is made 10x cooler by the fact they wield a lightsaber w00t.gif


50. Coleman Trebor
- So, the first jedi nobody to drop out is Coleman Trebor. He doesn't really get much of a time to shine in the movies but I've always thought he had one of the coolest character designs in the Star Wars universe (he basically looks like a dinosaur so that's probably why). However, he gets bonus points for being the one brave enough (and stupid enough) to try to tackle Count Dooku himself during the Battle of Geonosis even though it did mean he ended up being shot dead within seconds by Jango Fett. Fun fact: Trebor is just Robert backwards because the character was named after a guy called Rob Coleman who was an effects supervisor for the prequel films.


49. Luminara Unduli
- Another Jedi who pretty much has nothing to do so it's hard to place her very highly either but she has awesome character design too (she's the one on the right by the way, the one on the left is Shaak Ti who is still yet to come!) and also wields a green lightsaber which is obviously the best colour to have. She ranks slightly higher because she was a playable character in the Lego Star Wars games that I used to play as a child and I often played as her if I wanted to switch it up a bit because she looked so cool.


48. Plo Koon
- Another random Jedi character but he places slightly higher because he can fly ships really well too (as well as being a playable character on Lego Star Wars which always helps if you want to be placed highly in my rankings, of course heehee.gif). I also have fond memories of calling him 'turkey man' a child because his face does look a bit like a plucked turkey wearing a gas mask laugh.gif


47. Saesee Tiin
- Saesee Tiin is https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/f4/SaeseeTiinFull-SWE.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/297?cb=20160913232333 if you weren't able to pick him out from the gif by the way. He is one of the Jedis who went with Mace Windu to arrest Palpatine and ended up being slaughtered in mere seconds as they obviously didn't know quite what they were up against at the time. Before he was brutally murdered, he was a Jedi Master who sat on the Jedi High Council so career goals basically!!1


46. Bib Fortuna
- This is the first character from the original trilogy to drop out in my countdown. He was basically just Jabba the Hut's right hand man who ranked as one of the people highest up there. He basically looks like the stuff of nightmares with red eyes, a bulging forehead, pointy teeth and a giant snake-like thing protruding from the top of his head and wrapping around his neck - all things that make him one of the coolest looking Star Wars characters even if he doesn't have much to do in the films.

Posted by: Shaphne Jul 19 2017, 05:38 PM

Spock FTW cheer.gif loved him in Return of the King.

Posted by: Josh! Jul 20 2017, 08:17 PM


45. Admiral Ackbar
- Admiral Ackbar is now almost iconic for his line "it's a trap!" and that's basically the sole reason he places here. He doesn't have a big role in the franchise but is always a fun side character - it was nice to see him pop up again in The Force Awakens.


44. Boba Fett
- Boba Fett is, perhaps, the most over-rated character in film history for me. Often appearing in the top FIVE of rankings like this is completely hyperbolic in my opinion. He pretty much has nothing to do in the films apart from look a bit badass but even Jango Fett had a better action scene in the prequels so even he's still yet to come in this countdown. I just don't get why people love Boba so much when he is far from the coolest looking character in Star Wars and doesn't do much else anyway.


43. Orson Krennic
- Orson Krennic is another of the more style over substance characters, he looks like a very menacing villain but in reality, he is massively overshadowed by how badass Darth Vader in Rogue One is and ends up being a bit forgettable to be honest. However, I did quite enjoy the scene where he visits Galen Erso at his home at the beginning of the film when Jyn is running away, he was pretty threatening there.


42. Lando Calrissian
- Not going to lie, I'm quite a fan of the prequels as they defined my childhood due to being so young at the time and watching them as a child. I know most people have that connection with the Original trilogy but I obviously didn't discover them until a lot later so I feel like some of those characters may suffer a bit here. Lando is a fun character but basically a rip-off of Han Solo with less memorable one liners or scenes so it's hard to place him that high here in my rankings. I'm sure I'll appreciate him much more in the upcoming Han Solo movie where he will be played by Donald Glover!


41. Aayla Secura
- Another of the random Jedi characters here but she places ever so slightly here due to featuring in the films a little more. She has one of the sadder Order 66 deaths where she turns around to see her clone soldiers pointing guns right at her before she is shot multiple times sad.gif She also has really cool character design and I do wish other Jedis got a bit more time to shine in the films to be honest, they looked SO cool !!

Posted by: DalekTurret32 Jul 20 2017, 10:18 PM

Predicting Princess Leia, C3PO, R2D2 and Darth Vader in the Top 10
And BB8 might come up soon, I hope!

Posted by: Josh! Jul 21 2017, 07:28 PM

Lol @ how no1 curr, the Potter one was on Page 2 at this stage !! laugh.gif


40. Lama Su
- We get to meet Lama Su (and his aide, Taun We) briefly in Attack of the Clones when Obi-Wan travels to Kamino to investigate the creation of the clone army. Lama Su is a Kaminoan who served as the Prime Minister of his home planet and is key to Obi-Wan discovering the secret. I like the way the Kaminoans speak and look so thought one of them deserved a placing here so here one is.


39. Greedo
- Greedo earns his placing pretty much due to the iconic 'who shot first?' scene alone. He was a bounty hunter most famous for meeting Han Solo in a cantina and not making it out alive. He obviously doesn't ever appear in the franchise again but props to him for having the guts to try and finish off Han, even if it didn't work out so well for him.


38. Watto
- Watto is a bit of a bad guy but yet another minor character that definitely leaves his mark on the characters. He is a junk dealer who actually owns young Anakin Skywalker and his mother as slaves on Tatooine. His trademark snout and grouchy voice make him a fun side character even if he is a bit nasty.


37. Sebulba
- Sebulba is quite a minor character in The Phantom Menace but one that certainly makes impression. He is one of the the finest Podracers around but often wins via immoral means by installing a lot of illegal weapons to his own Podracer. It was nice to see him get his comeuppance for his behaviour when he lost to young Anakin Skywaler in the podrace that ensured the latter's freedom from slavery.


36. Jyn Erso
- Jyn is the first major Star Wars character to drop out here and it's mainly because she's played by Felicity Jones who I have a bit of an irrational hatred for as an actress. I just feel like she's massively lacking in any charisma at all which make her characters boring and difficult to watch on-screen. I far preferred a lot of the other crew members in Rogue One, a couple of which are still yet to come!

Posted by: T Boy Jul 21 2017, 08:31 PM

I agree Boba is pretty overrated based on what you see in the films, but my love for him actually stems from the expanded universe material.

Posted by: Josh! Jul 21 2017, 08:37 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jul 21 2017, 09:31 PM) *
I agree Boba is pretty overrated based on what you see in the films, but my love for him actually stems from the expanded universe material.

Ahh, where else does he feature prominently? I only really sometimes watched Clone Wars and never got into Rebels at all :/

Is he in any of the books/comics much? ohmy.gif

QUOTE(DalekTurret32 @ Jul 20 2017, 11:18 PM) *
Predicting Princess Leia, C3PO, R2D2 and Darth Vader in the Top 10
And BB8 might come up soon, I hope!

What do you have againt BB8 ?! laugh.gif He is going to pretty high ngl, he's so cute!! laugh.gif

Thanks guys!

Posted by: T Boy Jul 22 2017, 03:49 PM

QUOTE(Josh! @ Jul 21 2017, 09:37 PM) *
Ahh, where else does he feature prominently? I only really sometimes watched Clone Wars and never got into Rebels at all :/

Is he in any of the books/comics much? ohmy.gif
What do you have againt BB8 ?! laugh.gif He is going to pretty high ngl, he's so cute!! laugh.gif

Thanks guys!


Comics is probably your best bet. The one standing out to me now is one called Enemy of the Empire which has pretty good Darth Vader stuff too. Read it when I was 11, loved it.

He features prominently in some novels-he's the only good bit in some of Karen Traviss' novels but her books are quite awful to read due to her bias against Jedi.

Posted by: Josh! Jul 22 2017, 08:32 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jul 22 2017, 04:49 PM) *
Comics is probably your best bet. The one standing out to me now is one called Enemy of the Empire which has pretty good Darth Vader stuff too. Read it when I was 11, loved it.

He features prominently in some novels-he's the only good bit in some of Karen Traviss' novels but her books are quite awful to read due to her bias against Jedi.

Ahhh! Yeah, I really haven't explored as much of the Star Wars written universe as I would have liked to. I might have to check out the library and see what they have in the run up to Episode 8 as I am beginning to get properly hyped now w00t.gif

Cheers T Boy biggrin.gif

Posted by: Josh! Jul 22 2017, 09:04 PM


35. Shaak Ti
- Shaak Ti was a Jedi Master who also was a part of the Jedi Council but sadly, her role was cut quite short in the movies even though she does appear briefly. She is mainly this high because she has a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l-44bYXlxE in Episode 3 which was unfortunately cut from the final film. She also has really cool character design and was a playable character on Lego Star Wars, hence her making it so high here heehee.gif


34. Jango Fett
- I mentioned earlier in my commentary for Boba Fett that both of these characters are pretty over-rated but at least Jango has a couple of good action scenes which makes him a bit more exciting as a character. I've always loved his showdown with Obi-Wan on Kamino in Episode 2 and then him flying off laugh.gif


33. Kit Fisto
- Another random Jedi but there aren't many left now before we get into the really well known classic characters. Kit Fisto is yet another cool dude with cool character design and another person that I enjoyed playing as on Lego Star Wars as a child. I've always liked him for putting on a big grin in the middle of a giant battle, showcased in the gif above laugh.gif


32. Wicket
- Wicket is probably one of the cutest characters in the Star Wars movies and probably one of my favourite characters as a child due to how adorable he is. He plays a big role in the Battle of Endor where the Galactic Empire are eventually defeated so he fights for the good guys too which is always nice. He was also played by Warwick Davis so that wins him extra bonus points too wub.gif


31. Grand Moff Tarkin
- Tarkin is this high due to being excellently acted by the late Peter Cushing. The stone cold face is enough make the hairs stand up on anybody and it means his scenes are some of the most menacing in the Star Wars universe. It was also amazing to see Cushing be brought back to life on film in Rogue One using the power of CGI, it was almost completely unnoticeable and he looked surprisingly real. Hopefully that opens a lot more doors in the future with what can be done using CGI *-*

Posted by: Mack Jul 22 2017, 09:45 PM

Great countdown so far, Josh. Agree with 50-31 there.

Posted by: Saenerys Jul 24 2017, 02:44 PM

Brilliant countdown so far! Shaak Ti's scene was deleted as she crops up in a spin off game set between III and IV, the force unleashed I think and is killed then. I used to love Kit Fisto, Luminara and Plo Koon as well as Aayla Secura, they have such good background stories on Wookiepedia and also enjoyed Barris Offee as Luminara's Padawan.

Posted by: Severin Jul 24 2017, 03:33 PM

As a fan of Boba Fett I think much of it comes down to context. When he was first introduced in the Star Wars Holiday Special he was basically the only thing good in it. It was an appalingly horrible show with a decent cartoon section where Fett tricks and betrays our heroes and he created quite the impression.
So much so that there was considerable excitement when toys came out and he was announced as being in Empire. His appearance in that only added to the air of mystery and intrigue and much was expected of him thereafter as a key character in the 3rd film. Then Lucas decided to kill him off pathetically and rub the salt in with the special editions.

Those of us who remember Fett first appearing nearly 40 years ago tend to remember him fondly

I'd put Tarkin much higher myself too but I really hope there's a place for stormtrooper who bangs his head and the guy who says 'you rebel scum'

Posted by: Josh! Jul 24 2017, 08:09 PM

QUOTE(Severin @ Jul 24 2017, 04:33 PM) *
As a fan of Boba Fett I think much of it comes down to context. When he was first introduced in the Star Wars Holiday Special he was basically the only thing good in it. It was an appalingly horrible show with a decent cartoon section where Fett tricks and betrays our heroes and he created quite the impression.
So much so that there was considerable excitement when toys came out and he was announced as being in Empire. His appearance in that only added to the air of mystery and intrigue and much was expected of him thereafter as a key character in the 3rd film. Then Lucas decided to kill him off pathetically and rub the salt in with the special editions.

Those of us who remember Fett first appearing nearly 40 years ago tend to remember him fondly

I'd put Tarkin much higher myself too but I really hope there's a place for stormtrooper who bangs his head and the guy who says 'you rebel scum'
Ah, I guess this does make a lot of sense now. As someone who didn't grow up with the original trilogy, I've always found him cool-looking but not a lot else to him really but it does seem more acceptable put in context like this. I still prefer Jango as a character though.

Those are the best two characters in the Star Wars universe, of course! You've spoiled my top two now drama.gif

Cheers Severin biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Mack @ Jul 22 2017, 10:45 PM) *
Great countdown so far, Josh. Agree with 50-31 there.

Thanks Mack, hope you enjoy the rest of the countdown too!
QUOTE(Saenerys @ Jul 24 2017, 03:44 PM) *
Brilliant countdown so far! Shaak Ti's scene was deleted as she crops up in a spin off game set between III and IV, the force unleashed I think and is killed then. I used to love Kit Fisto, Luminara and Plo Koon as well as Aayla Secura, they have such good background stories on Wookiepedia and also enjoyed Barris Offee as Luminara's Padawan.

Yeah, I do remember reading that's why her death was cut but I guess they could have kept it anyway because who knows what is canon and not canon with all these spin-off games, books and comics nowadays drama.gif Yesss at you stanning for the lesser known Jedi characters too, I remember spending many hours when I was younger reading about them on Wookiepedia too *-*
Thanks Sean!

Posted by: T Boy Jul 24 2017, 08:35 PM

Shaak Ti is also a fave of mine.

Posted by: Josh! Jul 24 2017, 08:52 PM

So, this is the moment I start losing you all and you start questioning me taste. Here comes FOUR shock evictions ! x_X


30. KYLO REN
- So Kylo Ren was really hyped up going into Star Wars and I did think he was a decent villain but perhaps a bit overrated. He was menacing at times and his lightsaber design rivals Darth Maul's for the COOLEST THING TO EVER EXIST but ultimately some of his scenes fell a bit flat. There's something about Adam Driver in general that I just dislike and in a villain role, he just looked so young and weak meaning the casting for the character ended up ruining him a bit for me. All the greatest Star Wars villains like Count Dooku, General Grievous and Vader are SCARY and you feel threatened watching them whereas it was hard not to laugh out loud when the face behind the mask of Kylo Ren was revealed in the Force Awakens.


29. REY
- Another major character from The Force Awakens drops out surprisingly low and it's just another case of finding the actress a little irritating, Daisy Ridley just doesn't come across very engaging or interesting in interviews (or on-screen for that matter) to me which dampens my enjoyment in watching her which is a bit of a shame. I'm sure this placing will increase by the end of the trilogy once I've become more used to the character but for now, it's difficult to place her all that high on limited screen-time too.


28. GALEN ERSO
- Mads Mikkelsen is a pretty great actor but I really wasn't expecting him to be one of my favourite characters coming out of seeing Rogue One but that ended up being the cast. There are only three Rogue One characters left to come so he's done pretty well here! Obviously he did a great job in secretly sabotaging the Death Star with a major flaw so that the good guys could prevail in the end cheer.gif I found his double agent style storyline pretty enthralling and therefore really enjoyed the character, more so than his daughter Jyn!


27. FINN
- Another shock drop out but another person I just find a little annoying but this is because John Boyega seems to do TOO much in real life like he's trying far too hard to be cool and likeable which can be a bit cringey to watch. He's a bit more tolerable in this role and has some pretty fun moments but is outshined massively by Poe Dameron who has buckets of charisma and therefore I just wanted to see more of the latter and his storyline in The Force Awakens to be honest.


26. ANAKIN SKYWALKER
- I've split up Anakin and Darth Vader (oops, spoiler!) for this countdown so watch out for the latter but Anakin before he was burnt to a crisp and given a cool costume places 26th in the countdown. He is now iconic for his terrible dialogue and wooden acting by Hayden Christensen in the prequels. I'm not going to pretend that some of his scenes weren't cringey to watch but he definitely had his moments of charm and cool action scenes as well as being central to the plot of the films so he deserves his spot here even if he was, at times, one of the worst things about the prequel trilogy.

Posted by: Josh! Jul 24 2017, 08:59 PM

That's the half way point so here's a recap:

50. Coleman Trebor
49. Luminara Unduli
48. Plo Koon
47. Saesee Tiin
46. Bib Fortuna
45. Admiral Ackbar
44. Boba Fett
43. Orson Krennic
42. Lando Calrissian
41. Aayla Secura
40. Lama Su
39. Greedo
38. Watto
37. Sebulba
36. Jyn Erso
35. Shaak Ti
34. Jango Fett
33. Kit Fisto
32. Wicket
31. Grand Moff Tarkin
30. Kylo Ren
29. Rey
28. Galen Erso
27. Finn
26. Anakin Skywalker

A taste of what is to come: 6 Jedis, 3 Rogue One characters, 6 villains, 4 droids. HYPE w00t.gif

Posted by: Chez Wombat Jul 24 2017, 10:25 PM

Kylo Ren was a good villain I think, but he didn't really stick in my mind as someone particularly memorable so I can see why he's so low down. He definitely had his moments, but I feel more needs to come out of him to distinguish him from other Star Wars villains. Similar thing with Raye and Finn, although the former's probably my favourite out of those. Not really standing out atm but I'm hoping the next film will develop them a bit more (it happened with Luke and Co at first ofc.!). BB8 was honestly the only new character I instantly took to from TFA, droids>>>>humans kink.gif

You are right you've lost me, Anakin should be WAY lower tongue.gif While I get it can be hard to develop someone that was always destined to be evil, there wasn't even a moment he came across as remotely likeable or corrupted, it was painfully obvious right from the start. It should be sad that he turned to the dark side, but honestly it wasn't as he is clearly much more suited to it!

He could've been good had they got a better actor I guess, but then again, can any actor can really make 'I don't like sand, it's course and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere' sound good? :')

Good stuff so far! Interested to see who wins~

Posted by: Saenerys Jul 25 2017, 09:23 AM

I totally agree with Kylo Ren - such a weak character in comparison to the rest of the Sith that came before him, for example.

Posted by: Josh! Jul 25 2017, 09:11 PM

QUOTE(Saenerys @ Jul 25 2017, 10:23 AM) *
I totally agree with Kylo Ren - such a weak character in comparison to the rest of the Sith that came before him, for example.

Yeah, hopefully he'll have a bit more to do in the upcoming films but he really was not very menacing as a villain, especially with such high villain standards set by the other Star Wars movies...

Thanks Sean!! biggrin.gif
QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Jul 24 2017, 11:25 PM) *
Kylo Ren was a good villain I think, but he didn't really stick in my mind as someone particularly memorable so I can see why he's so low down. He definitely had his moments, but I feel more needs to come out of him to distinguish him from other Star Wars villains. Similar thing with Raye and Finn, although the former's probably my favourite out of those. Not really standing out atm but I'm hoping the next film will develop them a bit more (it happened with Luke and Co at first ofc.!). BB8 was honestly the only new character I instantly took to from TFA, droids>>>>humans kink.gif

You are right you've lost me, Anakin should be WAY lower tongue.gif While I get it can be hard to develop someone that was always destined to be evil, there wasn't even a moment he came across as remotely likeable or corrupted, it was painfully obvious right from the start. It should be sad that he turned to the dark side, but honestly it wasn't as he is clearly much more suited to it!

He could've been good had they got a better actor I guess, but then again, can any actor can really make 'I don't like sand, it's course and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere' sound good? :')

Good stuff so far! Interested to see who wins~

Yes, I imagine we'll be getting lots more of Kylo Ren in the upcoming films which will hopefully establish him as a bit more of an exciting villain but he was really not great compared to the other great Star Wars villains of the past. I agree about BB8 though, what a cutie (he's still to be announced here by the way!!).

I do agree that Hayden Christensen was a poor choice for such a major role in a massive franchise but I did enjoy the character at times and I can't put him much lower considering the massive part he plays in the stories. Some of his lines (and line delivery for that matter) are truly terrible, the one you mentioned has to be one of the worst lines in movie history?!?!

Thanks Chez heart.gif

Posted by: Josh! Jul 25 2017, 09:26 PM


25 . CHIRRUT ÎMWE
- Chirrut didn't exactly play a huge role in Rogue One but he completely stole the show with his action scenes and even has a great line with "I'm one with the Force; the Force is with me." that is repeated plenty of times in the film. I liked his friend Baze Malbus too in the film but Chirrut always demanded my attention the most by just being so badass and cool. It's a shame we won't be able to return to this character because he really was exciting for the brief time we were able to watch him.


24 . MAZ KANATA
- It's probably a bit questionable to have such a minor character ahead of the leads of The Force Awakens but that's just testament to how memorable Maz is in comparison to the blandness of Daisy Ridley (heehee.gif). She is voiced excellently by Lupita Nyong'o and was an instant scene-stealer, it's such a shame we didn't get to see more of her in the film before her estate was attacked. I believe she has been confirmed for Episode 8 too so I'm excited for that.


23 . KI-ADI-MUNDI
- Ki-Adi-Mundi has always been my favourite of the more unestablished Jedi and therefore he earns a rather high placing here before we get to the real big hitters like Yoda and Obi-Wan. He is one of the older and more experienced Jedi Masters and looks completely cool doing almost anything. His death due to Order 66 is also one of the saddest in my opinion as he shouts "come on" to his Clones before he turns around and is killed sad.gif


22 . JABBA THE HUTT
- Jabba is probably one of the less threatening Star Wars villains (although, still pretty scary as I certainly wouldn't want to be enslaved by him!) but is certainly one of the most fun. He is what can only be described as a giant slug and also a massive crime lord on Tatooine. He is eventually strangled by Leia after she had been forced to be his slave.


21 . CASSIAN ANDOR
- Cassian was not a character that I was expecting to love going into Rogue One but he ended up being my second favourite character in the entire movie. Diego Luna brought tonnes of charm to the role and it was really easy to root for his character. He obviously doesn't have as much time to grow due to just being in one movie but he's very lovable in a cheeky Han Solo sort of way.

Posted by: Severin Jul 25 2017, 11:39 PM

I totally agree that Kylo Ren is a slightly rubbish villain but I always took that to be the point. He's conflicted throughout the film about where his future lies and I believe it is supposed to echo Annakin's own state of mind. Kylo is basically a messed up kid with parental issues and a sense of self importance. Snoke is manipulating him just like Palpatine did with grandpa Vader.

I always figured he was meant to grow into being a proper villain in the next episode. Much like Rey will find her true path (far too low in the list for me btw) in episode VIII.

Also someone referenced Kylo Ren as being a Sith earlier and at no point has he been referred to as one in the story. They may be right in the end but it could be presumptuous


Posted by: Saenerys Jul 26 2017, 06:37 AM

QUOTE(Severin @ Jul 26 2017, 12:39 AM) *
I totally agree that Kylo Ren is a slightly rubbish villain but I always took that to be the point. He's conflicted throughout the film about where his future lies and I believe it is supposed to echo Annakin's own state of mind. Kylo is basically a messed up kid with parental issues and a sense of self importance. Snoke is manipulating him just like Palpatine did with grandpa Vader.

I always figured he was meant to grow into being a proper villain in the next episode. Much like Rey will find her true path (far too low in the list for me btw) in episode VIII.

Also someone referenced Kylo Ren as being a Sith earlier and at no point has he been referred to as one in the story. They may be right in the end but it could be presumptuous


Perhaps presumptuous yes. Should have phrased it as someone who disliked the Jedi tongue.gif

Mundi is a fab extra Jedi, love his scenes on the high council and as a playable character in Star Wars Battlefront II!

Posted by: Josh! Jul 27 2017, 08:43 PM

QUOTE(Severin @ Jul 26 2017, 12:39 AM) *
I totally agree that Kylo Ren is a slightly rubbish villain but I always took that to be the point. He's conflicted throughout the film about where his future lies and I believe it is supposed to echo Annakin's own state of mind. Kylo is basically a messed up kid with parental issues and a sense of self importance. Snoke is manipulating him just like Palpatine did with grandpa Vader.

I always figured he was meant to grow into being a proper villain in the next episode. Much like Rey will find her true path (far too low in the list for me btw) in episode VIII.

Also someone referenced Kylo Ren as being a Sith earlier and at no point has he been referred to as one in the story. They may be right in the end but it could be presumptuous

I'm hoping he will be a bit more developed and actually a scary villain too in the next couple of instalments, being Darth Vader's grandson is basically the only thing of note he's got going for him at the moment heehee.gif

Cheers Severin!
QUOTE(Saenerys @ Jul 26 2017, 07:37 AM) *
Perhaps presumptuous yes. Should have phrased it as someone who disliked the Jedi tongue.gif

Mundi is a fab extra Jedi, love his scenes on the high council and as a playable character in Star Wars Battlefront II!

Yeah, Mundi is a great addition to the universe and unfortunately always overlooked on countdowns such as this. I never got around to playing any of the Battlefront games even though I'd love to, they did look very good but I was too busy playing Lego Games on Xbox heehee.gif

Thanks Sean!

Posted by: Josh! Jul 27 2017, 08:52 PM


20. PADMÉ AMIDALA
- Padmé started off as a really promising character when she was first introduced as Queen Amidala with amazing costumes and basically just looking regal af. Being played by Natalie Portman is always a bonus too and she really did her best with the role but unfortunately, the character was marred by poor dialogue and awkward romance scenes with Anakin that were enough to put most people off the films altogether. I still enjoy a lot of her parts but it's a shame she wasn't given a stronger storyline and script to work with.


19. POE DAMERON
- There is only one brand new Force Awakens character left to come so Poe has done really well to get this high. He had a lot less screen time than Finn and Rey in the film but made a much larger impression on me, he is far more enjoyable to watch and his loads of charm which makes him lovable in a Han Solo type way, I'm really hoping he'll play a bigger part in the rest of the trilogy.


18. CHEWBACCA
- Chewbacca is one of Star Wars most famous characters so it probably comes as a bit of shock that he does not even make the top 15 here. He is a fantastic character and it's always nice to see him pop up in films when he does but ultimately, he doesn't have a lot to do apart from growl and be iconic so it's tough to put him above a lot of the other major characters.

Posted by: T Boy Jul 27 2017, 09:30 PM

#justiceforchewie

Posted by: Josh! Jul 31 2017, 09:44 AM


17. Qui-Gon Jinn
Qui-Gon Jinn was an immediate favourite of mine when I first ever saw The Phantom Menace so I was a bit gutted that we never got to see the character again. Liam Neeson is the master of looking effortlessly cool anyway but you could tell this Jedi had years of experience under his belt. He also has a really great send-off scene which feels really earned after following him and Obi-Wan for the whole film - he's a very underrated character in my opinion.


16. Luke Skywalker
Probably a bit of a shocker due to probably being in the the franchise's top three most iconic characters ever but I've never enjoyed him as much as some other characters in the original trilogy. He's a decent leading man but he's always been a lot less interesting than people like Han Solo and Leia and therefore it's difficult to warm to him as much or pay as much attention to him when he's on screen. I'm so excited that he's going to be a major character in Episode 8 though, Hamill looked SO right back in his Jedi robes at the end of The Force Awakens.


15. Jar Jar Binks
Jar Jar is perhaps one of the most disliked Star Wars characters there is and I think a lot of people would prefer it if the character was completely cut from the universe. I don't know if it's because I was so young when I grew up with the prequels but I always found Jar Jar pretty funny and likeable and therefore still enjoy him now as he was one of my childhood favourites. Comic relief is important in films and I think he provides that pretty well in these films so he earns his spot this high for me.

Posted by: T Boy Jul 31 2017, 10:13 AM

YAS at the Jar Jar love. NEVER as terrible as others made him out to be. I was 10 years old when I went to see The Phantom Menace at the cinema and I thought he was great. Do I still enjoy him on the same level? No. Does he now annoy me during rewatches? Still, no.

I get what you're saying about Luke but he'd be an automatic top 10 for me. Love Qui Gon also.

Posted by: Severin Jul 31 2017, 11:59 AM

I always thought Luke was a bit bland and was just about to become interesting as a fully trained and capable Jedi who edges close to turning to the darkside in episode VI, but then the series ended, although hopefully they do something with him going forward. I feel he's far better than some who are possibly yet to come.


As for Jar Jar... As a child of the 70s who marvelled at the original trilogy, when The Phantom menace came out it kind of broke my heart. So many things were wrong with it. Miscasting Vader was bad enough, and the inexplicably terrible dialogue was painful but Jar Jar to me was the worst. I did find him a racist caricature who was annoying, not remotely fun or comic and a complete distraction in every scene he appeared.
Qui Gon, Maul and Kenobi were all great, Amidala had potential but the rest did nothing for me. To this day I find it difficult to watch for long but have to remind myself it does have the best lightsaber duel in the series.
I can see why kids at the time would love it, as George Lucas himself said he made it with kids in mind.


Looking forward to see the top of this list

Posted by: Chez Wombat Jul 31 2017, 12:20 PM

I didn't mind Jar Jar when I was younger (naturally), it was just when I got older when I realised that he just wasn't essential at all :') asides from just being too obviously annoying to be funny, there's just no real development to him at all and he doesn't even appear after the first film so it all seemed a bit pointless.

Qui Gon was good if underused though, Luke is great, but I do agree he is somewhat a caricature of your typical hero at heart so isn't quite up there with the best.

Posted by: T Boy Jul 31 2017, 01:48 PM

I think that Jar Jar is essential for comic relief. Ok, so most find him unfunny, but if you remove him from the film it becomes an extremely serious film. I do think he is needed there for children who are viewing the film the first time.

And I've never really understood the racist caricature claims. Even if he does seem like one (and I don't see it), it clearly wasn't the intended message. The clear message of the film overall couldn't be more further from racism when you consider two different cultures putting aside their differences to fight back against a cruel regime.

I think it's unfair to claim Jake Lloyd as miscast as Anakin. The whole point is that Vader started out as a nice person and to be honest, Jake plays the role well. There were one or two dodgy lines that a 9 year old can't really be criticised for not being able to pull off, but as child actors go, there really wasn't anything wrong with his performance. He was the first proper child actor in Star Wars and I feel a lot of people are just reacting to the fact there is a child there. I also feel so sorry for Jake in real life, the abuse he's suffered from the role from people who believed they owned Star Wars. His life is pretty miserable right now. I'm his age and I wonder how I could have handled such abuse at a tough stage of growing up.

You could argue that Hayden Christensen was miscast. I quite like his performance in general-there are a few scenes/line deliveries in AOTC I could do without-but he didn't have a particularly commanding presence and couldn't always pull off the dodgy dialogue. However, I do find he shows up Natalie Portman on a couple of occasions.

Posted by: Josh! Aug 3 2017, 08:51 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jul 31 2017, 11:13 AM) *
YAS at the Jar Jar love. NEVER as terrible as others made him out to be. I was 10 years old when I went to see The Phantom Menace at the cinema and I thought he was great. Do I still enjoy him on the same level? No. Does he now annoy me during rewatches? Still, no.

I get what you're saying about Luke but he'd be an automatic top 10 for me. Love Qui Gon also.

Definitely agree with you on that, he's obviously not as fun as he was when we were children but he always has a special place in my heart due to growing up with those movies.

Thanks T Boy biggrin.gif
QUOTE(Severin @ Jul 31 2017, 12:59 PM) *
I always thought Luke was a bit bland and was just about to become interesting as a fully trained and capable Jedi who edges close to turning to the darkside in episode VI, but then the series ended, although hopefully they do something with him going forward. I feel he's far better than some who are possibly yet to come.
As for Jar Jar... As a child of the 70s who marvelled at the original trilogy, when The Phantom menace came out it kind of broke my heart. So many things were wrong with it. Miscasting Vader was bad enough, and the inexplicably terrible dialogue was painful but Jar Jar to me was the worst. I did find him a racist caricature who was annoying, not remotely fun or comic and a complete distraction in every scene he appeared.
Qui Gon, Maul and Kenobi were all great, Amidala had potential but the rest did nothing for me. To this day I find it difficult to watch for long but have to remind myself it does have the best lightsaber duel in the series.
I can see why kids at the time would love it, as George Lucas himself said he made it with kids in mind.
Looking forward to see the top of this list

Yes, I'm very excited to see where they take the character of Luke in future movies and I'm very pleased he's going to be a major part of Episode 8 after the tease in TFA but he's never been the most exciting character really so I put a few above him that have far less screen time.

I think it definitely comes down to what era of Star Wars you grew up with, if I grew up with the original trilogy then I'd probably hate a lot of the prequel characters but growing up with them means I enjoyed them a lot as a child and they've stuck with me since.

I agree about the Phantom Menace lightsaber duel being one of the best although I think my absolute favourite is Yoda vs Sidious. The fight choreography in the prequel trilogy was amazing though *-*

Thanks Severin!!
QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Jul 31 2017, 01:20 PM) *
I didn't mind Jar Jar when I was younger (naturally), it was just when I got older when I realised that he just wasn't essential at all :') asides from just being too obviously annoying to be funny, there's just no real development to him at all and he doesn't even appear after the first film so it all seemed a bit pointless.

Qui Gon was good if underused though, Luke is great, but I do agree he is somewhat a caricature of your typical hero at heart so isn't quite up there with the best.

I guess that criticism does make a lot of sense but then Lucas would've been crazy to include him in the sequels after he'd got such a bad reception in the Phantom Menace - he was a fun side character from what we saw of him though heehee.gif

Thanks Chez! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jul 31 2017, 02:48 PM) *
I think that Jar Jar is essential for comic relief. Ok, so most find him unfunny, but if you remove him from the film it becomes an extremely serious film. I do think he is needed there for children who are viewing the film the first time.

And I've never really understood the racist caricature claims. Even if he does seem like one (and I don't see it), it clearly wasn't the intended message. The clear message of the film overall couldn't be more further from racism when you consider two different cultures putting aside their differences to fight back against a cruel regime.

I think it's unfair to claim Jake Lloyd as miscast as Anakin. The whole point is that Vader started out as a nice person and to be honest, Jake plays the role well. There were one or two dodgy lines that a 9 year old can't really be criticised for not being able to pull off, but as child actors go, there really wasn't anything wrong with his performance. He was the first proper child actor in Star Wars and I feel a lot of people are just reacting to the fact there is a child there. I also feel so sorry for Jake in real life, the abuse he's suffered from the role from people who believed they owned Star Wars. His life is pretty miserable right now. I'm his age and I wonder how I could have handled such abuse at a tough stage of growing up.

You could argue that Hayden Christensen was miscast. I quite like his performance in general-there are a few scenes/line deliveries in AOTC I could do without-but he didn't have a particularly commanding presence and couldn't always pull off the dodgy dialogue. However, I do find he shows up Natalie Portman on a couple of occasions.

Agree with all of this, the prequels get such a hard time but they definitely have good moments. Just because Jar Jar is not a character named at 40 year old fans of the original trilogy doesn't make him a bad character - he did a pretty good job of appealing to children and selling toys to be honest.

Don't agree with that Natalie Portman shade though, she has such a good crying face laugh.gif
Thanks!!

Posted by: Josh! Aug 3 2017, 09:35 PM


14. Darth Maul
- Darth Maul has to be one of the most menacing looking villains in the Star Wars universe and I remember properly geeking out as a kid as soon as he whipped out his double-sided lightsaber, nothing was cooler to me and I even had a toy one. Unfortunately, he gets sort of killed off in the Phantom Menace and we never get to see him in the movies ever again although I believe he re-appeared in the TV shows with robotic legs or something?!? As Severin mentioned, the duel at the end of the movie is one of the most exciting and best choreographed lightsaber battles in the Star Wars universe and a lot of that is due to how cool this character and his lightsaber is.


13. BB-8
- Basically droids > humans and BB-8 is no exception to this rule whatsoever, he is a complete cutie and basically earns this really high placing by just being adorable. He made way more of an impression on me in TFA than the boring leads Rey and Finn and he did it all with no dialogue which makes it even more impressive, the hardest I laughed during the entire film was his thumbs up :')


12. R2-D2
- Same as above really but R2-D2 is a bit more iconic so places slightly higher, R2-D2 is probably the most famous non-speaking character of all-time and it's not hard to see why, he's intelligent, useful and cute all at the same time. It's always nice seeing him pop up in the latest adventures as he's such a classic character and even a cameo from R2 makes the film slightly better heehee.gif

Posted by: Saenerys Aug 4 2017, 09:56 AM

I was petrified of Maul as a child and used to cry whenever I saw him! I dressed up as him once for a party and had the double edged saber and everything sponsored by my mothers fabulous face paint skills. He's definitely more memorable than most of the Sith for many reasons which is why I imagine he came back in the TV series with mechanical legs.

I prefer R2D2 to BB-8 so glad R2 is ranked higher!

Posted by: Shaphne Aug 4 2017, 10:00 AM

I've not seen Rogue One but whoever Cassian is, he deserves to be higher based purely on how hot he is.

Posted by: T Boy Aug 4 2017, 01:05 PM

RE: Natalie Portman shade, I actually love her but there are definitely scenes in AOTC where Christensen performs stronger, like when he admits he killed all the Tuskens.

And yeah Darth Maul came back with robotic legs in Clones Wars. And they cancelled the show before any of it could be wrapped up so he went on the appear in Rebels. I haven't seen the recent series but I believe he tracked down Obi Wan on Tatooine and got killed for real. He was great in TPM but I had no desire to see him in anything else. He'd probably be a bit lower on my countdown.

Posted by: Josh! Aug 4 2017, 10:44 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 4 2017, 02:05 PM) *
RE: Natalie Portman shade, I actually love her but there are definitely scenes in AOTC where Christensen performs stronger, like when he admits he killed all the Tuskens.

And yeah Darth Maul came back with robotic legs in Clones Wars. And they cancelled the show before any of it could be wrapped up so he went on the appear in Rebels. I haven't seen the recent series but I believe he tracked down Obi Wan on Tatooine and got killed for real. He was great in TPM but I had no desire to see him in anything else. He'd probably be a bit lower on my countdown.

Yeah, Christensen definitely had his good moments which is why it's such a shame everyone just seems to focus on the bad ones (although, lines like the sand line are really, really, really terrible so it's not hard to see why laugh.gif) but Portman/Padmé is still the more charismatic and interesting character of the two for me.

I would have loved to have seen Maul again but I guess it would be difficult anyway considering how many other villains there were to get through and a lot of them were even better/still to come. I'm glad we got to see duels with the likes of Grievous and Dooku instead of recycling Maul again even it would've been nice to see him again.

Thanks for commenting biggrin.gif
QUOTE(Saenerys @ Aug 4 2017, 10:56 AM) *
I was petrified of Maul as a child and used to cry whenever I saw him! I dressed up as him once for a party and had the double edged saber and everything sponsored by my mothers fabulous face paint skills. He's definitely more memorable than most of the Sith for many reasons which is why I imagine he came back in the TV series with mechanical legs.

I prefer R2D2 to BB-8 so glad R2 is ranked higher!

I totally get that Sean - I used to have daily nightmares about Darth Vader and would wake up shrieking in the night laugh.gif I just needed a few more years before I was ready for how scary some of the characters were drama.gif heehee.gif

Thanks for commenting wub.gif
QUOTE(Shaphne @ Aug 4 2017, 11:00 AM) *
I've not seen Rogue One but whoever Cassian is, he deserves to be higher based purely on how hot he is.

Indeed, Diego Luna is really rather gorgeous. Maybe that's part of the reason I was drawn so much more to his character than Felicity Jones heehee.gif



Thanks Grant biggrin.gif

Posted by: Josh! Aug 4 2017, 10:53 PM


11. K-2SO
- So this means that no new characters from Rogue One have made the top 10 in my countdown. It's tough to make a big impression in the space of just one movie but K-2SO is already up there with some of the Star Wars icons for me wub.gif Never has a character had such perfect humour in a SW movie yet but he provided light moments in all the right places during the movie and all of his gags landed - I still remember cackling out loud when he hits Cassian when pretending to be a prison guard. He also has his big sacrificial moment which almost had me tearing up, definitely the death that hit me the most in the film and that's because he was such a lovely character. wub.gif

The top 10 shall be starting tomorrow hopefully, here it is in alphabetical order:

C3PO
Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious
Count Dooku
Darth Vader
General Grievous
Han Solo
Leia Organa
Mace Windu
Obi Wan Kenobi
Yoda

Any hopes or predictions?

and a recap:
50. Coleman Trebor
49. Luminara Unduli
48. Plo Koon
47. Saesee Tiin
46. Bib Fortuna
45. Admiral Ackbar
44. Boba Fett
43. Orson Krennic
42. Lando Calrissian
41. Aayla Secura
40. Lama Su
39. Greedo
38. Watto
37. Sebulba
36. Jyn Erso
35. Shaak Ti
34. Jango Fett
33. Kit Fisto
32. Wicket
31. Grand Moff Tarkin
30. Kylo Ren
29. Rey
28. Galen Erso
27. Finn
26. Anakin Skywalker
25. Chirrut Imwe
24. Maz Kanata
23. Ki-Adi-Mundi
22. Jabba the Hutt
21. Cassian Andor
20. Padmé Amidala
19. Poe Dameron
18. Chewbacca
17. Qui-Gon Jinn
16. Luke Skywalker
15. Jar Jar Binks
14. Darth Maul
13. BB-8
12. R2-D2
11. K-2SO

Posted by: Severin Aug 5 2017, 04:16 PM

I've just realised you left out Wedge Antilles!

And the pilot was my favourite in Rogue One.

Hoping for a Vader Sidious top 2

Posted by: T Boy Aug 5 2017, 04:33 PM

The majority of those would be worthy winners.

Made Windu tho. I always thought he was kinda lame.

Posted by: Shaphne Aug 5 2017, 05:58 PM

Han Solo too high tbh.

Posted by: Saenerys Aug 5 2017, 07:00 PM

Han and Obi Wan to come bottom of the top ten with C3PO. There's so many more interesting things about the rest of them and their back stories.

Posted by: DalekTurret32 Aug 6 2017, 09:28 AM

I love BB8 and R2D2

Posted by: Josh! Aug 6 2017, 09:05 PM

QUOTE(DalekTurret32 @ Aug 6 2017, 10:28 AM) *
I love BB8 and R2D2

Yep, the droids are really cool characters in general tbh. The ones that don't talk are really cute laugh.gif heehee.gif
Thanks!
QUOTE(Severin @ Aug 5 2017, 05:16 PM) *
I've just realised you left out Wedge Antilles!

And the pilot was my favourite in Rogue One.

Hoping for a Vader Sidious top 2

Yep, Antilles was in my shortlist but just missed out. A cool side character but hardly the most exciting guy ever heehee.gif

Thanks Severin!
QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 5 2017, 05:33 PM) *
The majority of those would be worthy winners.

Made Windu tho. I always thought he was kinda lame.

Mace Windu had the purple lightsaber which I remember being the coolest thing ever as a child, plus he's SAMUEL L. JACKSON who is pretty much the coolest guy ever laugh.gif
Cheers TBoy !
QUOTE(Shaphne @ Aug 5 2017, 06:58 PM) *
Han Solo too high tbh.

As if you had a crush on young Mark Hamill and not young Harrison Ford...



Thanks Grant heehee.gif
QUOTE(Saenerys @ Aug 5 2017, 08:00 PM) *
Han and Obi Wan to come bottom of the top ten with C3PO. There's so many more interesting things about the rest of them and their back stories.

Ah, they all have interesting stories. Obi Wan especially, I loved seeing a younger him in the prequels and seeing how he grew to become Ben Kenobi!!

Thanks Sean ohmy.gif

Posted by: Josh! Aug 6 2017, 09:13 PM


10. MACE WINDU
- Mace Windu is one of the most instantly recognisable Jedis in the Star Wars movies, mainly due to his trademark distinctive purple lightsaber. I remember really wanting a purple lightsaber as a kid because he pulled it off with such swagger. He's also played by Samuel L Jackson who is one of the most effortlessly cool guys around in movies for the past few decades. He also has one of the best death scenes in a SW movie for me too, I remember being so gutted that Anakin had betrayed him in that moment cry.gif All of that adds up to him coming across as a likeable and very experienced Jedi which is why I warmed to his character so much.


09. GENERAL GRIEVOUS
- So I was talking about Darth Maul being one of the coolest characters in the Star Wars universe earlier in my countdown but what's cooler than two-ended lightsaber? Being able to carry FOUR lightsabers at one time, of course! He's not one of the main baddies in the movies but he is the PERFECT side villain. From his menacing breathy way of talking to toying with his victims to just looking badass with a selection of lightsabers from Jedi's he has killed, Grievous was one of the scariest villains I knew as a child which earns him this spot so high wub.gif

Posted by: Severin Aug 6 2017, 11:36 PM

Grievous to me sits alongside Boba Fett. Both really cool looking characters with intriguing back stories that had so much to offer the franchise but got pushed aside far too quickly and were killed too easily.

Grievous wielded 4 lightsabres and though not a Jedi he should never have been killed the way he was. Remember that scene in Game Of Thrones where Ser Arthur Dayne takes on four guys? That's how Grievous should have gone down

Posted by: Saenerys Aug 8 2017, 02:56 PM

QUOTE(Severin @ Aug 7 2017, 12:36 AM) *
Grievous to me sits alongside Boba Fett. Both really cool looking characters with intriguing back stories that had so much to offer the franchise but got pushed aside far too quickly and were killed too easily.

Grievous wielded 4 lightsabres and though not a Jedi he should never have been killed the way he was. Remember that scene in Game Of Thrones where Ser Arthur Dayne takes on four guys? That's how Grievous should have gone down


In the original animated series Ki Adi and Ayala Secura and possibly Shaak Ti were in battle with him so I agree more people should have been there to take him down as Kenobi is fab but not that fab laugh.gif

Posted by: Chez Wombat Aug 8 2017, 03:31 PM

I did love General Grievous, admittedly as a kid it was just cos he looked cool, had all the lightsabres and was really powerful when you were playing as him on the Playstation game kink.gif I wish there was more to him though as he really felt largely unnecessay story-wise in ROTS.

Posted by: T Boy Aug 8 2017, 05:29 PM

General Grievous was awesome on the original Battlefront 2 back in 05. Loved that game.

Posted by: Josh! Aug 8 2017, 06:27 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 8 2017, 06:29 PM) *
General Grievous was awesome on the original Battlefront 2 back in 05. Loved that game.

Never played that game but he's cool in pretty much everything to be honest *-* I loved playing as him on Lego Star Wars laugh.gif

Thanks for commenting T Boy!!

QUOTE(Severin @ Aug 7 2017, 12:36 AM) *
Grievous to me sits alongside Boba Fett. Both really cool looking characters with intriguing back stories that had so much to offer the franchise but got pushed aside far too quickly and were killed too easily.

Grievous wielded 4 lightsabres and though not a Jedi he should never have been killed the way he was. Remember that scene in Game Of Thrones where Ser Arthur Dayne takes on four guys? That's how Grievous should have gone down

I do kind of agree he was killed to easily, four lightsabers makes him a bit overpowered but then he got killed by just one Jedi so it makes him seem a bit less threatening. Still a very cool character though!!

Thanks Severin!!
QUOTE(Saenerys @ Aug 8 2017, 03:56 PM) *
In the original animated series Ki Adi and Ayala Secura and possibly Shaak Ti were in battle with him so I agree more people should have been there to take him down as Kenobi is fab but not that fab laugh.gif

Omg that sounds like such a wicked battle, never seen that before but I'll have to search for it. All of those are characters I love *-*

Thanks Sean!!
QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Aug 8 2017, 04:31 PM) *
I did love General Grievous, admittedly as a kid it was just cos he looked cool, had all the lightsabres and was really powerful when you were playing as him on the Playstation game kink.gif I wish there was more to him though as he really felt largely unnecessay story-wise in ROTS.

Yeah, he's hardly the most important character ever but I've loved him ever since being a child and therefore he remains one of the coolest characters in the universe for me *-*

Thanks Chez!!

Posted by: Shaphne Aug 8 2017, 06:27 PM

Young Mark Hamill is BAE.

Posted by: Josh! Aug 8 2017, 06:28 PM


08. HAN SOLO
- This isn't exactly a low placing but it's probably slightly lower than most people would have Han Solo. Arguably the franchises most iconic character, Han Solo is the smooth talker that EVERYBODY fell in love with when watching the original trilogy. He provides a lot of the laughs and is excellently portrayed by Harrison Ford, a role that suits him so perfectly. He is central to the main storyline and is a big part of why those films are such a success. He seemed a bit less into it in TFA but it was great fun to see him pop back in a Star Wars movie even if it was just for one film.


07. COUNT DOOKU
- Dooku is probably a bit of an odd conclusion to have this high up but it's a character that I've always loved. Christopher Lee is easily one of my cast highlights in any Star Wars film yet and he suits this type of character so well. For someone who is quite an old character, he looks and fights like an absolute badass to the point where he is one of the most terrifying characters in the films. He's another character that has a great death scene too, there's something quite pleasing about seeing him get decapitated on his knees at the hands of Anakin, oops heehee.gif

Posted by: T Boy Aug 8 2017, 08:36 PM

But what was no.8????

Posted by: Josh! Aug 8 2017, 08:41 PM

Oops Han was #8 and Dooku #7 laugh.gif Thanks!!

Threepio, Leia, Yoda, Obi Wan, Palpatine and Vader are the top six !!

laugh.gif

Posted by: Josh! Aug 11 2017, 09:58 PM


06. C-3PO
- Threepio is one of the most instantly recognisable Star Wars characters and it's not hard to see why considering he was one of only four characters to appear in the first six Star Wars movies (along with R2, Obi-Wan and Anakin Skywalker). He is mainly used as comic relief which is why he is one of my favourite characters, he's always around to provide a laugh with a great one liner. He probably has less influence on the plot of the films which is why he is slightly lower than those to come but I've always appreciated having him around as a bit of fun - droids are definitely more enjoyable when they can speak ! heehee.gif


05. CHANCELLOR PALPATINE / DARTH SIDIOUS
- Darth Sidious just makes the top five and is the second highest villain in the countdown. He used to give me nightmares as a child and it's not hard to see why when you see his withered skin and sallow eyes and hear his wicked cackle. I found it really interesting discovering his backstory in the prequels which made him one of the most enjoyable characters in those films. Whilst not being as prominent as Darth Vader (hence the lower placing), he makes a huge impact on the films and earns his placing this high up.


Posted by: Saenerys Aug 12 2017, 08:49 AM

QUOTE(Josh! @ Aug 8 2017, 07:27 PM) *
Omg that sounds like such a wicked battle, never seen that before but I'll have to search for it. All of those are characters I love *-*

Thanks Sean!!




About 1:12 onwards - I can't get over how retro the original series was! laugh.gif

I love how Dooku made the top ten. Such a class character and Christopher Lee did a fantastic job of playing him!

Posted by: Josh! Aug 13 2017, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(Saenerys @ Aug 12 2017, 09:49 AM) *


About 1:12 onwards - I can't get over how retro the original series was! laugh.gif

I love how Dooku made the top ten. Such a class character and Christopher Lee did a fantastic job of playing him!

This isn't loading for me but is it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYDSDtVkCWw. I googled it earlier after you mentioned and stumbled upon it and thought it must be what you meant. This is such a good clip though, I love how intimidating/unnerving Grievous is when he's hidden in the shadows at the beginning drama.gif

Thanks Sean for commenting wub.gif

Posted by: Josh! Aug 13 2017, 10:40 PM


04. Darth Vader

- Darth Vader is largely known as one of the best movie villains of all-time so it's no shock to see him up this high. He is the perfect example of everything a baddie should be in my opinion so there's no way he could miss my top five. He looks terrifying (I used to wake up squealing in the middle of the night due to nightmares about Darth Vader laugh.gif), is completely badass (as showcased by his cameo in Rogue One which is legitimately the best scene in the whole film), has a tragic backstory and an incredibly good redemption moment. He's a character that has had such a huge impact on the Star Wars universe therefore earning this spot so high up on my countdown.


03. Leia Organa

- So Leia makes it on my list as the highest female character which is probably no shock as she is easily one of the best female characters in movie history. Excellently portrayed by the late Carrie Fisher (there is seriously no other person for the role, she is perfect), she brings spunk and sass to the films which is what makes her so great. It's lovely seeing the character continue in the new trilogy as a General and I'm very excited to see how her arc is sewn up in the upcoming movies, I really hope they do her proud wub.gif


SO THAT LEAVES US WITH OBI WAN VS. YODA IN THE TOP TWO!!

Posted by: T Boy Aug 14 2017, 11:32 AM

Why the f*** is Carrie Fisher dead? Seriously still not over it.

Posted by: Josh! Aug 15 2017, 11:21 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 14 2017, 12:32 PM) *
Why the f*** is Carrie Fisher dead? Seriously still not over it.

I know sad.gif What a terrible loss, I loved going back and watching old interviews and footage of her recently, she really was a fabulous person heart.gif

Thanks for commenting T Boy!

Posted by: Josh! Aug 15 2017, 11:28 AM


02. Obi-Wan Kenobi

- Obi-Wan is a character that I've always loved but I'm definitely more drawn to the way he's portrayed in the prequels by Ewan McGregor. I enjoyed following his journey from Padawan to Jedi Master and how his responsibilities and powers grew as the films went out. The prequels were definitely tough to watch at times but Ewan was always the best thing about the movies - he was charming, funny and looked so comfortable in the role, you can tell he definitely loved being a part of the movies. Ben Kenobi was interesting in the original trilogy too portrayed by Alec Guinness but Ewan was the one who really made me fall in love with the character. I really hope we do get an Obi Wan spin-off film in the future after the Han Solo one, especially as Ewan seems like he's really up for it! wub.gif


01. Yoda

- and the winner is.... Yoda! There really could be no other winner for me as he has always been my absolute favourite since childhood. I loved him in the original movies for being the wise, intelligent trainer and of course, his way of speaking made him iconic from the very first film. I loved seeing the character return in the prequels and turning out to be an absolute badass at the age of 28392839 or however old he is. Seeing him doing backflips and duelling against some of the biggest baddies in the universe made him one of the most exciting and coolest characters I'd ever seen when I was younger. He's just the wisest, coolest, most unique character in the universe for me and therefore very deserving of his place right at the top of my countdown heart.gif

Posted by: Shaphne Aug 15 2017, 11:29 AM

Leia lost out to those two? sleep.gif

Posted by: Josh! Aug 15 2017, 11:29 AM

Thanks to everyone who commented or read this along the way wub.gif

I'd like to do another one in the future following on from the Harry Potter and Star Wars ones. I was thinking of maybe a Marvel universe one after Thor in the run up to Black Panther? biggrin.gif

THE COUNTDOWN:
50. Coleman Trebor
49. Luminara Unduli
48. Plo Koon
47. Saesee Tiin
46. Bib Fortuna
45. Admiral Ackbar
44. Boba Fett
43. Orson Krennic
42. Lando Calrissian
41. Aayla Secura
40. Lama Su
39. Greedo
38. Watto
37. Sebulba
36. Jyn Erso
35. Shaak Ti
34. Jango Fett
33. Kit Fisto
32. Wicket
31. Grand Moff Tarkin
30. Kylo Ren
29. Rey
28. Galen Erso
27. Finn
26. Anakin Skywalker
25. Chirrut Imwe
24. Maz Kanata
23. Ki-Adi-Mundi
22. Jabba the Hutt
21. Cassian Andor
20. Padmé Amidala
19. Poe Dameron
18. Chewbacca
17. Qui-Gon Jinn
16. Luke Skywalker
15. Jar Jar Binks
14. Darth Maul
13. BB-8
12. R2-D2
11. K-2SO
10. Mace Windu
09. General Grievous
08. Han Solo
07. Count Dooku
06. C-3PO
05. Chancellor Palpatine // Darth Sidious
04. Darth Vader
03. Leia Organa
02. Obi-Wan Kenobi
01. Yoda

Posted by: Severin Aug 15 2017, 11:47 AM

Vader was robbed! biggrin.gif

Great countdown and some less obvious but worthy inclusions. Cheers

Posted by: T Boy Aug 15 2017, 11:56 AM

I have to say, Yoda would be very high for me too, possibly even top.

Thanks for the countdown, Josh, it's been a fantastic read. Now need to marathon all 8 films again.

Posted by: Josh! Aug 15 2017, 06:01 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 15 2017, 12:56 PM) *
I have to say, Yoda would be very high for me too, possibly even top.

Thanks for the countdown, Josh, it's been a fantastic read. Now need to marathon all 8 films again.

Ooo, yay. I know he's a very popular character but I've never met many people that agree Yoda is the very best Star Wars character so yay at us having taste.

Definitely going to try and marathon before Episode 8, I'm sure they'll have a Star Wars channel on Sky in the run up to it so that'll be the perfect opportunity cheer.gif

Thanks for commenting throughout T Boy!
QUOTE(Shaphne @ Aug 15 2017, 12:29 PM) *
Leia lost out to those two? sleep.gif

Yep, top three is definitely not a bad position though ohmy.gif

Lol, thanks Grant for commenting!
QUOTE(Severin @ Aug 15 2017, 12:47 PM) *
Vader was robbed! biggrin.gif

Great countdown and some less obvious but worthy inclusions. Cheers

Definitely the best villain in the universe but I've always been more drawn to the good guys and Jedis in the films laugh.gif

Thanks for the nice comments, Severin!

Posted by: Oliver Aug 15 2017, 07:42 PM

Surprised Captain Phasma wasn't included in this!

Posted by: Josh! Aug 15 2017, 07:46 PM

QUOTE(Oliver @ Aug 15 2017, 08:42 PM) *
Surprised Captain Phasma wasn't included in this!

I don't know... maybe with future instalments...

She was hyped up to be this amazing new thing but she was the biggest wet blanket in TFA tbh, she's supposed to be this big menacing character and then she just sort of gave up and let Fin and Co. walk all over her. If she gets shown to be a badass in the next couple of films then I'm sure I'll be all over it because she does look cool but she come across a bit soft and uninteresting for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks for commenting Oliver!

Posted by: Chez Wombat Aug 15 2017, 08:46 PM

Good winner and top 5, all very iconic, and Ewan McGregor was a great choice and definitely one of the best things about the prequels. Count Dooku I found a really weak villain, but the rest of the top 10 are all deserved (Not seen many countdowns where R2 is below 3PO though!). Thanks for this Josh, been great to read (and get me hyped for Episode 8 *.)


Posted by: T Boy Aug 15 2017, 09:00 PM

Re: Captain Phasma, I agree.

She was marketed as a strong female character and she gets walked over so much she literally does nothing for women. Hopefully she'll kick ass in the next one.

Posted by: Josh! Aug 22 2017, 10:40 AM

I think an MCU countdown will be the next one I'll do in the future cheer.gif

QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 15 2017, 10:00 PM) *
Re: Captain Phasma, I agree.

She was marketed as a strong female character and she gets walked over so much she literally does nothing for women. Hopefully she'll kick ass in the next one.

Yeah, I had all this hype for her before this film and she turned out to be such a let down. I have high hopes for her in the next films though because she looks amazing in terms of design *-*

Thanks T Boy!
QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Aug 15 2017, 09:46 PM) *
Good winner and top 5, all very iconic, and Ewan McGregor was a great choice and definitely one of the best things about the prequels. Count Dooku I found a really weak villain, but the rest of the top 10 are all deserved (Not seen many countdowns where R2 is below 3PO though!). Thanks for this Josh, been great to read (and get me hyped for Episode 8 *.)
And now we have an Obi-Wan spin-off film announced, I'm really hoping Ewan is confirmed soon wub.gif

I think Christopher Lee alone just made Dooku look so badass and he had some really menacing lines and cool fight scenes so he was always one of my favourites wub.gif

Thanks Chez !!

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