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Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex Mar 14 2021, 06:32 PM

So benefits of most things being rolled over from 2020 is that I don't have to write a new intro spiel for this years running order thread! Here's what I wrote more or less at this time last year;

QUOTE(LexC @ Mar 7 2020, 10:39 PM) *
So we're still waiting on the last few stragglers (Noted repeat offenders Malta, Russia, Azerbaijan and North Macedonia still outstanding) and Portugal will be all wrapped up around midnight GMT but even then I think we've got a fairly solid idea of what kind of thing those countries are likely to bring - and one thing I think we've missed this year due to the backloading of the song reveals is discussions about the running order/differences between the halves of the semis. So this is what we're looking at

Semi One

First Half

Australia
Belarus
Ireland
Lithuania
North Macedonia
Russia
Slovenia
Sweden

Second Half

Azerbaijan
Belgium
Croatia
Cyprus
Israel
Malta
Norway
Romania
Ukraine

Semi Two

First Half

Austria
Czech Republic
Estonia
Greece
Iceland
Moldova
Poland
San Marino
Serbia

Second Half

Albania
Armenia
Bulgaria
Denmark
Finland
Georgia
Latvia
Portugal
Switzerland


And also some initial observations which I don't think are that much different this year!

QUOTE(LexC @ Mar 7 2020, 10:44 PM) *
First general observations:

JESUS CRISTO Semi One is the biggest bloodbath I've ever seen at this stage of the game. Australia and Ukraine will have a fight on their hands to keep their 100% Qualification record.

The flip side of that is that Semi Two, specifically the back half of Semi Two has a lot of stuff that you wouldn't call as a definite qualifier. There'll probably be one or even two songs that qualify by virtue of being in the "easier" semi that then do absolutely nothing in the final and help the UK finish 22nd rather than 24th.


Posted by: AdamAloud Mar 14 2021, 06:56 PM

For Semi 2:

01. Czech Republic - Benny Cristo - Omaga
02. Estonia - Uku Suviste - The Lucky One
03. Moldova - Natalia Gordienko - Sugar
04. Austria - Vincent Bueno - Amen
05. Serbia - Hurricane - Loco Loco
06. Poland - Rafal - The Ride
07. Greece - Stefania - Last Dance
08. Iceland - Dadi og Gagnamagnid - 10 Years
09. San Marino - Senhit - Adrenalina
10. Portugal - The Black Mamba - Love Is On My Side
11. Switzerland - Gjon's Tears - Tout l'univers
12. Latvia - Samanta Tina - The Moon Is Rising
13. Georgia - Tornike Kipiani - You
14. Denmark - Fyr & Flamme - Ove os pa hinanden
15. Albania - Anxhela Peristeri - Karma
16. Bulgaria - Victoria - Growing Up Is Getting Old
17. Finland - Blind Channel - Dark Side

Posted by: Colm Mar 14 2021, 07:12 PM

Am I right in deducing that there's only 2 female belters this year - Albania and Slovenia? (If Efendi and Destiny don't bring belters)

One in each semi? That could benefit both of them.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex Mar 14 2021, 07:15 PM

I guess you could argue for the inclusion of Latvia in the female belter category? Plus I could see Malta feasibly bringing a big soul belter if they want to play to Destiny's strengths.

Posted by: Colm Mar 14 2021, 07:17 PM

True about Malta. I wouldn't see Latvia taking votes from Albania - votes from fans of big ballads.

Posted by: Cameron Mar 15 2021, 07:49 AM

I can see them opening the Semi with Serbia?

Posted by: Colm Mar 15 2021, 09:20 AM


Apart from Austria and Estonia....it's a very pop heavy first half.

Posted by: diva thin muffin Mar 15 2021, 09:42 AM

QUOTE(Colm @ Mar 15 2021, 09:20 AM) *
Apart from Austria and Estonia....it's a very pop heavy first half.

I'd definitely class Estonia as pop. Definitely more so than Czechia.

Posted by: Colm Mar 15 2021, 09:44 AM

I suppose I meant upbeat numbers. What some would call bops.

Posted by: WoW73 Mar 15 2021, 11:17 AM

I'm sure Lithuania will end the first half of semi 1, and Cyprus gets to close the 2nd half

Posted by: J❄️hq Mar 15 2021, 03:06 PM

1. Serbia
2. Poland
3. Austria
4. Greece
5. Estonia
6. Moldova
7. Czech Republic
8. San Marino
9. Iceland
-
10. Portugal
11. Latvia
12. Georgia
13. Albania
14. Switzerland
15. Denmark
16. Bulgaria
17. Finland

I think Czech Republic would make a great opener, but with Greece/Moldova/San Marino/Serbia all delivering big, up-tempo female entries, I feel like you've got to start with one to help spread them out? And between those four I think you need to save San Marino (and the Flo Rida gag) and Moldova (I'm imagining something BIG with loads of Kirkorov money pumped into the performance) until later, so it comes down to the other two and Greece were penned into open last year so I'm changing it up and gone with Serbia. Again, cos they were due to be in slot #2 last year, I'm letting Estonia off the hook and gone for something else that I don't think people overly care about. From there I try to alternate between either tempo and/or male/female acts.

For the second half, I don't think you want to end on too slow a note, nor something that is instantly dead on arrival, so we land on Finland. Denmark get quite lucky as I don't think you can bury them too early when we have slow numbers from Portugal/Georgia/Switzerland/Bulgaria that need breaking up, and the latter two as big favourites aren't going to be thrown on too early.

Posted by: J❄️hq Mar 16 2021, 01:14 PM

Semi 1

1. Ireland
(potentially Belarus)
2. North Macedonia
3. Australia
4. Sweden
5. Russia
6. Slovenia
7. Lithuania
-
8. Israel
9. Ukraine
10. Croatia
11. Belgium
12. Azerbaijan
13. Norway
14. Cyprus
15. Romania
16. Malta

I find this semi more of a struggle to pick an opener from, Macedonia/Sweden/Slovenia are too slow, Russia/Australia a bit too 'noisy'/out there and then Lithuania...too much of a favourite? So I give it to Ireland kinda by default, a solid track that has enough life to kick us off. Belarus will go 2nd with whatever they send if they happen to still compete, but if not you've got to sacrifice Macedonia or Slovenia, and I feel like Slovenia is more likely to be the "surprise jury fave" of the year.

The second half is easier to order, Norway has to go somewhere in the middle as he's the only male on vocal duties and I can not see a situation where Destiny doesn't close the show - it's a big fave, a great positive note to end on AND from what I can gather, the meaning of 'je me casse' is roughly 'OK, I'm out'.

Posted by: Ghosty. Mar 16 2021, 02:11 PM

I just created a Youtube playlist so that I can cycle through all the entries and tried to put them into a running order that I thought would work well:

Semi Final 1

01 Lithuania
02 Slovenia
03 Australia
04 North Macedonia
05 Ireland
06 Russia
07 Sweden
08 Azerbaijan
09 Romania
10 Israel
11 Cyprus
12 Norway
13 Ukraine
14 Croatia
15 Belgium
16 Malta

Semi Final 2

01 Czech Republic
02 Austria
03 San Marino
04 Poland
05 Moldova
06 Estonia
07 Greece
08 Iceland
09 Serbia
10 Georgia
11 Denmark
12 Albania
13 Portugal
14 Latvia
15 Switzerland
16 Finland
17 Bulgaria

Posted by: AdamAloud Mar 20 2021, 07:03 PM

For semi 1, Belarus can go 2nd if they end up competing.

01. Australia - Montaigne - Technicolour
02. North Macedonia - Vasil - Here I Stand
03. Ireland - Lesley Roy - Maps
04. Lithuania - The Roop - Discoteque
05. Slovenia - Ana Soklic - Amen
06. Russia - Manizha - Russian Woman
07. Sweden - Tusse - Voices
08. Cyprus - Elena Tsagrinou - El Diablo
09. Belgium - Hooverphonic - The Wrong Place
10. Israel - Eden Alene - Set Me Free
11. Romania - Roxen - Amnesia
12. Croatia - Albina - Tick Tock
13. Norway - Tix - Fallen Angel
14. Azerbaijan - Efendi - Mata Hari
15. Ukraine - Go_A - Shum
16. Malta - Destiny - Je me casse

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex Mar 20 2021, 07:31 PM

Semi One in my headcannon

01 Lithuania: The Roop - Discotheque
02 Slovenia: Ana Soklic - Amen
03 Belarus: Galasy ZMesta - Some Shit Song
04 North Macedonia: Vasil - Here I Stand
05 Australia: Montaigne - Technicolour
06 Russia: Manizha - Russian Woman
07 Sweden: Tusse - Voices
08 Ireland: Lesley Roy - Maps
09 Ukraine: Go_A - Shum
10 Romania: Roxen - Amnesia
11 Israel: Eden Alene - Set Me Free
12 Azerbaijan: Efendi - Mata Hari
13 Norway: TIX - Fallen Angel
14 Cyprus: Elena - El Diablo
15 Malta: Destiny - Je Me Casse
16 Belgium: Hooverphonic - The Wrong Place
17 Croatia: Albina - Tick Tock

- Lithuania seem the most obvious song to get the party started/make a bold impression from the off with Slovenia given the sacrificial second place slot. If Belarus don't turn up in Rotterdam then Australia can be swapped around to put in between Slovenia and North Macedonia to break up the run of ballads. Throughout the rest of the run I've tried to break up the higher and lower tempos where possible.
- Norway has to go somewhere in that middle of the second half/after a break to give them set up time for the props. And Cyprus to follow them just for the symbolism of going from "fallen angel" to El Diablo.
- Croatia close the show with a similar high energy number with Belgium providing the cushioning between Croatia and Malta in song 15

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex Mar 20 2021, 07:43 PM

And for Semi 2

01 Czech Republic: Benny Cristo - Omaga
02 Poland: Rafal - The Ride
03 Serbia: Hurricane - Loco Loco
04 Austria: Vincent Bueno - Amen
05 San Marino: Senhit - Adrenalina
06 Moldova: Natalia Gordienko - Sugar
07 Iceland: Dadi Freyr - 10 Years
08 Estonia: Uku Suviste - The Lucky Ones
09 Greece: Stefania - Last Dance
10 Portugal: The Black Mamba - Love Is On My Side
11 Latvia: Samanta Tina - The Moon Is Rising
12 Bulgaria: Victoria - Growing Up Is Getting Old
13 Albania: Anxhela - Karma
14 Georgia: Tornike Kipiani - You
15 Denmark: Fyr & Flamme - Ove os pa hinanden
16 Switzerland: Gjon's Tears - Tous l'univers
17 Finland: Blind Channel - Dark Side

- Main challenge here is how to spread out the pop bangers in the first half. I ended up with this version on the basis that there'd be a break after song 5 so there's time to get your breath back between San Marino and Moldova
- Czech Republic seem like a good opener for something high energy. I didn't think I could put both Amens in the death slot so Poland goes there for something that's poppy but not particularly high impact with Austria used to break up a run of bangers later on
- The second half was a lot easier to go with the contrasts. Finland makes the most sense as a closer with hopefully a big stage show with a lot of fireworks and Switzerland just before as the most hyped up entry for a strong contrast.
- If we're keeping the breaks in the same place as Semi 1 then the second one would go between Albania and Georgia which works well enough (for a pee break)

Posted by: Klumzee Mar 30 2021, 10:08 AM

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Posted by: Iz 💀 Mar 30 2021, 10:14 AM

My first scattered thoughts are that this looks good for Finland and Bulgaria, not good for Russia, both of those in second are sacrificed, Denmark will be a less than stellar finish and will probably sink for that, intriguing openers on both fronts.

Posted by: Colm Mar 30 2021, 10:17 AM

Georgia, Albania, Portugal, Bulgaria is going to be a drag.

Posted by: Colm Mar 30 2021, 10:18 AM

I'd good that Ireland come after N Macedonia.

I really don't think Lithuania is certain to qualify, any more.

Posted by: J❄️hq Mar 30 2021, 10:19 AM

QUOTE(BiminiBonBoulex @ Mar 20 2021, 08:31 PM) *
- Norway has to go somewhere in that middle of the second half/after a break to give them set up time for the props. And Cyprus to follow them just for the symbolism of going from "fallen angel" to El Diablo.


Love how they have gone with these back-to-back!

Poor Uku, I didn't expect them to give the 'death slots' to any of the same acts/countries as had been pencilled in for them in 2020 but here we are :')

Surprised about San Marino opening...it's a great banger to start things off, but since when do you bring your biggest stars out first?!

Posted by: Klumzee Mar 30 2021, 10:21 AM

Semi One: I'm surprised they put Russia in 3rd? Also TIX being quite early on in the second half so there's a long run of female songs. Although Ukraine's entry is different enough to break that up. Slovenia seemed particularly doomed as that's a strong set of songs around them. Malta will be a good finish but 10-13 will drag a bit I think.

Semi Two: Didn't expect San Marino to be first, especially with the 'will they won't they?' with Flo Rida I thought they'd put them as late as possible! However again I think that will doom Estonia as everyone will need a song to recover from that laugh.gif Moldova and Iceland are placed well and Serbia will struggle even more. Bulgaria/Finland/Switzerland will all be fine and Denmark seems an odd one to finish? I feel like the contest will be winding down by the time they're on. Latvia whilst not a 'popular' one I think will stand out and grab people's attention so that whole section ahead of them will make them struggle imo.

Posted by: b Mar 30 2021, 10:42 AM

They really did Ukraine dirty here sandwiching them between those bangers! sad.gif

Posted by: AdamAloud Mar 30 2021, 10:45 AM

In my humble opinion the running orders seem kinda shit on first glance.

Posted by: diva thin muffin Mar 30 2021, 11:09 AM

I think Lithunia could struggle to qualify now actually. It’s a song & performance that caters to casual viewers who like novelty but those (from my experience at least) tend to miss the first 2-4 songs because they’re not too invested and also might not remember it too well after 15 other songs have performed and I doubt the juries will be going crazy for it. I’d be surprised if they don’t qualify but it’s also not entirely unexpected.

Posted by: J❄️hq Mar 30 2021, 11:39 AM

I'd love Lithuania to NQ as it isn't one of my personal qualifiers from semi 1, but I feel like what you've just described could also sum up "That's How You Write a Song" quite well (minus the recognisable former winner), and that ended up winning the semi so won't get my hopes up for a Roop-less Saturday laugh.gif

Posted by: diva thin muffin Mar 30 2021, 12:25 PM

QUOTE(J❄️hq @ Mar 30 2021, 11:39 AM) *
I'd love Lithuania to NQ as it isn't one of my personal qualifiers from semi 1, but I feel like what you've just described could also sum up "That's How You Write a Song" quite well (minus the recognisable former winner), and that ended up winning the semi so won't get my hopes up for a Roop-less Saturday laugh.gif

Well to be fair THYWAS was in a far less competitive semi, had the legacy act advantage as one of the biggest ESC winners ever and it placed higher with the jury than the televote and then flopped completely in the final laugh.gif Like I said, I’d be surprised if The Roop would flop but I’m not counting it out as a possibility.

Posted by: J❄️hq Mar 30 2021, 12:35 PM

Yeah I'd forgotten just how uncompetitive his semi was in 2018 with the highest semi 2 song in the final placing 7th, and even that was massively thanks to the jury.

Posted by: Ghosty. Mar 30 2021, 02:57 PM

laugh.gif Lithuania aren’t NQing

I don’t think this draw has particularly benefited anyone in terms of turning them from a non-qualifier to the opposite, perhaps Ukraine?

I think it’s certainly dampened the chances of Australia, Norway, Croatia, Czech Republic and Estonia from the borderline pack. Bulgaria are also in potential danger being the 4th in a string of slower paced songs and being followed by Finland, but not to the extent that they wouldn’t qualify, they just might struggle to make top 3 here as expected.

Not surprised personally about San Marino opening, I think lumping Flo Rida in the middle of the proceedings would make him look completely insignificant (kink.gif). If he can’t close the show, then the only option is to have him open it.

Posted by: Colm Mar 30 2021, 03:27 PM

I don't think anyone is a cert to qualify from S1 except Sweden and Malta.

Posted by: Colm Mar 30 2021, 03:51 PM

Ok. I'll add Azerbaijan and Cyprus.

Posted by: Ghosty. Mar 30 2021, 09:15 PM

Cyprus are pretty likely, especially coming after North Macedonia and Ireland. I feel Azerbaijan will only qualify if they bring their usual exceptional staging, because Mata Hari as a song on its own merit is incredibly basic and throwaway, and in terms of quality, all the other pop girlies are currently eclipsing it...

Posted by: Sour Candy Apr 1 2021, 12:46 PM

The way they manipulate the running order, the more significant it gets. I mean there will always be SOMEONE performing second so why could they do a draw.. I miss the days when any song could have been performed anywhere in the contest.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Apr 5 2021, 02:47 AM

Thank god Ireland arent performing second.

Posted by: b Apr 5 2021, 08:01 AM

QUOTE(Sour Candy @ Apr 1 2021, 03:46 PM) *
The way they manipulate the running order, the more significant it gets. I mean there will always be SOMEONE performing second so why could they do a draw.. I miss the days when any song could have been performed anywhere in the contest.

It's for the better flow of the contest. I don't really wish to have another Belarus/Ireland 2010 snooze-fiasco so the new 'manipulated' draw is for the best.

Posted by: Colm Apr 5 2021, 08:45 AM

Well, Portugal/Bulgaria is going to be that snooze-fiasco.

Posted by: b Apr 5 2021, 08:51 AM

The difference is that they are not the same song.

Posted by: gooddelta Apr 5 2021, 08:59 AM

QUOTE(b @ Apr 5 2021, 09:01 AM) *
It's for the better flow of the contest. I don't really wish to have another Belarus/Ireland 2010 snooze-fiasco so the new 'manipulated' draw is for the best.


The first half hour of the 2006 final was the worst. I expect many casual viewers would have switched off in their droves. Norway’s Alvedansen was good but that aside the contest didn’t really get going until Germany’s No No Never for me.

Posted by: Ghosty. Apr 6 2021, 07:28 PM

QUOTE(gooddelta @ Apr 5 2021, 09:59 AM) *
The first half hour of the 2006 final was the worst. I expect many casual viewers would have switched off in their droves. Norway’s Alvedansen was good but that aside the contest didn’t really get going until Germany’s No No Never for me.


THIS

When I rewatched it with my partner, who hadn't seen it before, he couldn't believe how awful the quality of that first half was. He didn't even particularly enjoy Norway or Germany either! laugh.gif

This year's SF run of Georgia - Albania - Portugal - Bulgaria is going to be an absolute slog to get through. I don't understand why they didn't put Denmark in amongst them and have Finland close, surely that would have been the logical option?!

Posted by: Colm Apr 6 2021, 08:15 PM

QUOTE(Ghosty. @ Apr 6 2021, 08:28 PM) *
This year's SF run of Georgia - Albania - Portugal - Bulgaria is going to be an absolute slog to get through. I don't understand why they didn't put Denmark in amongst them and have Finland close, surely that would have been the logical option?!



It's bizarre. I think Albania is dramatic enough to pick up the pace, though.

Posted by: Colm Apr 19 2021, 04:34 PM

They've kinda made it difficult for Bulgaria. I wonder why.

Posted by: Colm Apr 19 2021, 04:36 PM

I am getting concerned that San Marino, Moldova and Serbia will be fighting for the attention of the same voting demographic and only one of them will qualify - most likely San Marino.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 15 2021, 11:50 AM

Germany, Italy and France have all drawn into the second half of the final. The UK and Spain will be drawing theirs later this afternoon.

Posted by: Iz 💀 May 15 2021, 12:10 PM

UK first half laugh.gif

Such a predictable trajectory.

Posted by: NoBrasNoPanties May 15 2021, 12:38 PM

what did you expect? UK performs in the 1st half every 3 years like clockwork since 2012! :')

2012 - 1st
2015 - 1st
2018 - 1st
2021 - 1st

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 15 2021, 12:58 PM

Spain get first half as well.

Posted by: AdamAloud May 18 2021, 10:58 PM

First Half

Belgium
Cyprus
Israel
Malta
Russia
Spain
United Kingdom

Second Half

Azerbaijan
France
Germany
Italy
Lithuania
Norway
Sweden
The Netherlands (#23)
Ukraine

Posted by: Lukuzz May 19 2021, 08:17 AM

Would love Ukraine or Italy to be the closer

Posted by: Sour Candy May 19 2021, 08:29 AM

Hope Belgium is not #2, they'd be doomed.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 19 2021, 09:12 AM

I can see Belgium being used more as a spacer between two favourites rather than the death slot. Israel, UK and Cyprus probably the best bets for opening.

Ukraine would actually make a lot of sense as a closer as ideally you want something big and impactful but that's also got a uniqueness to it - Italy could also work as a closer in that way too but idk how likely they are to give them the closing slot for the second time in four years.

Posted by: Colm May 19 2021, 09:14 AM

Put Malta second to get rid of the curse. 😎

Posted by: Sour Candy May 19 2021, 10:00 AM

Malta would be the best #2, I agree.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 09:17 PM

Albania and Serbia have drawn first half, Bulgaria and Moldova second half.

Posted by: Cameron May 20 2021, 09:18 PM

I’ve been floored by San Marino for about an hour

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 09:18 PM

Portugal and Iceland draw first half.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 09:19 PM

San Marino are second half - show closer please!

Posted by: Bdelita May 20 2021, 09:21 PM

EVERYONE DREW FIRST HALF EXCEPT FOR SENHIT?! I AM LIVING FOR THIS LMFAO

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 09:22 PM

First Half

Albania
Belgium
Cyprus
Greece
Iceland
Israel
Malta
Portugal
Russia
Serbia
Spain
Switzerland
United Kingdom

Second Half

Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Finland
France
Germany
Italy
Lithuania
Moldova
Norway
San Marino
Sweden
The Netherlands (#23)
Ukraine

Posted by: AdamAloud May 20 2021, 09:23 PM

They were quick to draw those! Now time to play Bjorkman *.*

Posted by: RobBot May 20 2021, 09:24 PM

I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT NATALIA GORDIENKO GOING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Posted by: Quarantilas May 20 2021, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ May 20 2021, 11:18 PM) *
I’ve been floored by San Marino for about an hour

Honestly same. What a performance.

QUOTE(BiminiBonBoulex @ May 20 2021, 11:19 PM) *
San Marino are second half - show closer please!

Yesssss pls. It absolutely has to close the show.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 09:32 PM

So my version would be

01 United Kingdom
02 Portugal
03 Serbia
04 Russia
05 Albania
06 Israel
07 Switzerland
08 Cyprus
09 Spain
10 Iceland
11 Greece
12 Belgium
13 Malta
BREAK
14 Germany
15 Finland
16 Moldova
17 Sweden
18 Azerbaijan
19 Norway
20 Italy
21 Bulgaria
22 Lithuania
23 Netherlands
24 Ukraine
25 France
26 San Marino

That run from Sweden to San Marino would be ALL KILLER NO FILLER territory!

Posted by: AdamAloud May 20 2021, 09:34 PM

What I'd do:

01. Cyprus: 'El Diablo' by Elena Tsagrinou
02. Portugal: 'Love Is On My Side' by The Black Mamba
03. Greece: 'Last Dance' by Stefania
04. Albania: 'Karma' by Anxhela Peristeri
05. United Kingdom: 'Embers' by James Newman
06. Belgium: 'The Wrong Place' by Hooverphonic
07. Israel: 'Set Me Free' by Eden Alene
08. Switzerland: 'Tout l'Univers' by Gjon's Tears
09. Russia: 'Russian Woman' by Manizha
10. Iceland: '10 Years' by Dadi og Gagnamagnid
11. Serbia: 'Loco Loco' by Hurricane
12. Spain: 'Voy a quedarme' by Blas Canto
13. Malta: 'Je me casse' by Destiny
14. Finland: 'Dark Side' by Blind Channel
15. Germany: 'I Don't Feel Hate' by Jendrik
16. Sweden: 'Voices' by Tusse
17. Moldova: 'Sugar' by Natalia Gordienko
18. Norway: 'Fallen Angel' by TIX
19. Azerbaijan: 'Mata Hari' by Efendi
20. Ukraine: 'SHUM' by Go_A
21. Bulgaria: 'Growing Up Is Getting Old' by Victoria
22. Italy: 'Zitti e buoni' by Maneskin
23. The Netherlands: 'Birth Of A New Age' by Jeangu Macrooy
24. Lithuania: 'Discoteque' by The Roop
25. France: 'Voila' by Barbara Pravi
26. San Marino: 'Adrenalina' by Senhit (ft. Flo Rida)

Posted by: Sour Candy May 20 2021, 09:34 PM

Germany is twice there

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 09:35 PM

QUOTE(Sour Candy @ May 20 2021, 10:34 PM) *
Germany is twice there


I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN!

Posted by: RobBot May 20 2021, 09:48 PM

Whipped up a super quick RUNNING ORDER PREDICTION

1 Israel: Eden Alene - Set Me Free
2 Spain: Blas Cantó - Voy a quedarme
3 Greece: Stefania - Last Dance
4 United Kingdom: James Newman - Embers
5 Cyprus: Eleni Tsagrinou - El Diablo
6 Portugal: The Black Mamba - Love Is On My Side
7 Serbia: Hurricane - Loco Loco
8 Russia: Manizha - Russian Woman
9 Switzerland: GJon's Tears - Tout l'univers
10 Albania: Anxhela Peristeri - Karma
11 Malta: Destiny - Je Me Casse
12 Belgium: Hooverphonic - The Wrong Place
13 Iceland: Daði og Gagnamagnið - 10 Years
14 Finland: Blind Channel - Blind Side
15 Bulgaria: Victoria - Growing Up Is Getting Old
16 Germany: Jendrik - I Don't Feel Hate
17 Ukraine: Go_A - Shum
18 Sweden: Tusse - Voices
19 Moldova: Natalia Gordienko - Sugar
20 France: Barbara Pravi - Voila
21 Lithuania: The Roop - Discoteque
22 Azerbaijan: Efendi - Mata Hari
23 The Netherlands: Jeangu Macrooy - Birth Of A New Age
24 Italy: Maneskin - Zitti e buoni
25 Norway: Tix - Fallen Angel
26 San Marino: Senhit (feat. Flo Rida) - Adrenalina

Posted by: AdamAloud May 20 2021, 09:52 PM

Yas Rob bury Bulgaria in your running order!

Posted by: RobBot May 20 2021, 09:54 PM

I mean, it can only look good preceding the HORROR of Jendrik if that were to be the case!

Posted by: simonf May 20 2021, 09:54 PM

Alot of people seem to think they may bury Iceland so they don't win which would be a shame. I have no idea who is going to win at the moment so the order will be interesting. Shame Iceland, Malta, Cyprus and Switzerland are all first half really but obviously they still have a chance to win from the first half.

Posted by: nigels May 20 2021, 10:04 PM

QUOTE(simonf @ May 20 2021, 10:54 PM) *
Alot of people seem to think they may bury Iceland so they don't win which would be a shame. I have no idea who is going to win at the moment so the order will be interesting. Shame Iceland, Malta, Cyprus and Switzerland are all first half really but obviously they still have a chance to win from the first half.


Isn’t the interesting thing about Iceland being you now don’t need an ad break to deal with a long stage set up. A bit more flexibility for the running order! Yes Iceland are losers but I can’t see anyone placing them before an ad break as an example as the audience lose a bit of atmosphere

Posted by: Iz 💀 May 20 2021, 11:15 PM

San Marino is indeed the closer!

We're going the 'get the audience warmed up for Flo Rida and Senhit' route.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 11:15 PM

Cyprus opening and San Marino closing confirmed! *.*

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 11:17 PM

1. Cyprus
2. Albania
3. Israel
4. Belgium
5. Russia
6. Malta
7. Portugal
8. Serbia
9. United Kingdom
10. Greece
11. Switzerland
12. Iceland
13. Spain
14. Moldova
15. Germany
16. Finland
17. Bulgaria
18. Lithuania
19. Ukraine
20. France
21. Azerbaijan
22. Norway
23. The Netherlands
24. Italy
25. Sweden
26. San Marino

Posted by: AdamAloud May 20 2021, 11:22 PM

Albania done dirty being given the death slot two contests running.

Malta sixth seems quite bad for them.

The song called '10 Years' not getting slot 10, my OCD cannot cope.


Posted by: Jαsє May 20 2021, 11:22 PM

Poor Malta sad.gif


Posted by: Bdelita May 20 2021, 11:23 PM

Ukraine going before France. f***

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever May 20 2021, 11:23 PM

Great opener and closer.

Posted by: Quarantilas May 20 2021, 11:23 PM

Senhit is going to drown Sweden’s competent but boring jury vote winner and I’m here for it tbh

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex May 20 2021, 11:24 PM

Malta been done dirty!

That running order feels like its angling for an Italian victory.

Posted by: Quarantilas May 20 2021, 11:24 PM

Bulgaria will get lost between Finland and Lithuania as well (unless there’s an ad break there) *.*

Posted by: RobBot May 20 2021, 11:25 PM

Italy AND San Marino is going to bury Sweden dead in the water.

That position is not the one for Malta, think it'll be about 4th or 5th now. 'El Diablo' is an amazing beginning and that run from Lithuania-Azerbaijan is going to KILL ME.

I'm SO EXCITED wub.gif

Posted by: Iz 💀 May 20 2021, 11:26 PM

Finland and Bulgaria benefiting from contrasting with each other again (I think), what a duo <3

Looking good for both my rock babes, not too close to each other but both spicing up the second halves.

Posted by: AdamAloud May 20 2021, 11:29 PM

Hurricane going to OBLITERATE the United Kingdom's damb squib offering right after *.*

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever May 20 2021, 11:31 PM

I think Bulgaria are placed really well.

Posted by: diva thin muffin May 20 2021, 11:50 PM

Oh wow they really just threw Malta out of the running like that laugh.gif

Posted by: AdamAloud May 20 2021, 11:56 PM


Posted by: Bdelita May 21 2021, 12:28 AM

With maybe one exception Albania has always been put exclusively into 2nd/3rd/4th or penultimate slots ever since they started fixing the draw (2016? i can't quite recall). not at all sus

Posted by: Esmerelda May 21 2021, 12:38 AM

Whoever did the running order clearly

a) Wants Italy to win
b) Wants another all male top 10 in the televote

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever May 21 2021, 01:22 AM

Poor Duncan Laurence has tested positive for covid so wont be appearing live saturday night, hopefully they have his performance recorded that can be used and of course I hope he recovers in full.

Posted by: Iz 💀 May 21 2021, 01:53 AM

QUOTE(Bdelita @ May 21 2021, 12:28 AM) *
With maybe one exception Albania has always been put exclusively into 2nd/3rd/4th or penultimate slots ever since they started fixing the draw (2016? i can't quite recall). not at all sus


The consistency of sound that while wonderful, tends to make them never really a highlight or riding a hype train, probably contributes to that, as well as being a little isolated compared to many countries but I agree, sus.

Posted by: Umi May 21 2021, 02:08 AM

I think the fact that Albania persistently send a really niche sound as a small country without too many friends is all the more reason that the draw constantly screwing them over is so sad. Like, give the little guys at least a chance at a feelgood moment - they deserve it for taking so many risks with their entries. How many balkan countries need to pull out before they start trying to keep the ones they have left? I'm already casting an eye at Croatia after Albina failing.

Posted by: Sour Candy May 21 2021, 05:13 AM

They still don't want to anyone who can win perform among the first 5... that is ridiculously biased. They coul've very well put Switzerland #3 or #4 and they would've still been a contender.

Posted by: Sour Candy May 21 2021, 05:19 AM

QUOTE(Esmerelda @ May 21 2021, 01:38 AM) *
Whoever did the running order clearly

b) Wants another all male top 10 in the televote


What makes you think that?

Also Keiino is male/female group.

Posted by: Cameron May 21 2021, 05:59 AM

I’m sad that El Diablo will be over with so early. They love opening the show with the pop girl bangers in recent years, don’t they?

Posted by: Sour Candy May 21 2021, 06:13 AM

I have said it before and say it now. It's not a good thing that the local broadcaster can decide which song performs when. I know they "just" want to make the show better but it's not a good look in the long run and people will start complaining not before long.

A draw would be much more fair, especially now when jury votes count that much and it's not only about people being drunk enough to vote at 11pm.

Posted by: Bdelita May 21 2021, 07:24 AM

No one but hardcore fans know or care about the draw thing so I don’t think it will happen. Nor it should.

Posted by: FezVez May 21 2021, 08:25 AM

I saw some commentary on Twitter saying Malta was being "taught a lesson" with their placing. What's the drama there?

Posted by: ScottyEm May 21 2021, 08:35 AM

The winners from 2014, 15 and 17 all performed 10-11. I don’t necessarily think performing much earlier will massively hamper their chances ie Malta. Also, the producers apparently don’t have access to the semi results, so it’s not necessarily based on their chances of winning but more to do with have a good pace and moving or props etc.

Posted by: Sour Candy May 21 2021, 08:44 AM

But that's also "wrong" because one has to have a certain type of song to do well, either a classic big ballad or a banger. If it's in between, it'll always get the "death slots".

It's been way too long since we had a winner that was performed among the first 6. Sertab is the last I believe? It must be a conscious choice, at least during these last 5 years they could've have fixed it. With this approach, we have only 18 songs in the actual contest laugh.gif

Posted by: Bdelita May 21 2021, 09:31 AM

QUOTE(FezVez @ May 21 2021, 11:25 AM) *
I saw some commentary on Twitter saying Malta was being "taught a lesson" with their placing. What's the drama there?

being a young woman. i guess

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