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 10th September 2021, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(Last Dreamer @ Sep 9 2021, 02:48 AM)  Kylie is main contender for "Queen of Pop", but only in parallel universes where Madonna does not exist.  Not in a world where Gaga exists 
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11th September 2021, 05:05 AM
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Adelita, I think we’re all getting bored of your repetitive posts now. I mean we all know Madonna is the Queen of pop. I know it, you know it and even George Costanza knows it. Just accept it and move on.
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11th September 2021, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE(Adelita @ Sep 10 2021, 11:50 PM) Not in a world where Gaga exists GaGa has flopped too basly these days, due to not releasing Gypsy first and releasing Artpop and Joanne. She is the modern Cher, the Voice of Pop. Madonna iw a huge flop these days, but she has the MARKETING title of Queen of Pop. That marketing title will not go to anyone else simply because it isn't real. Mariah Carey has sold more, for example, with wishy washy ballads and rnb mid tempos, but she isn't the Queen of Pop, qs yhe marketing didn't go that way. Madonna is seen as a chameleon and has done all styles of pop, and for that she has the title, too. Britney has the title of princess, even though she hasn't been a pop force since 2007, and again, it is because marketing titles do not transfer. Katy Perry COULD have been the "next" Queen of Pop IN FUNCTION - not in title, due to marketing - but she flopped out. GaGa COULD be our next Madonna in FUNCTION, but she will be given a different marketing title. And yes: Kylie cannot sing, but her sangs are fun. |
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11th September 2021, 09:32 AM
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Poor Kylie
 She has a 3-octave range, of course she can sing! |
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11th September 2021, 09:46 AM
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I can't take the suggestion that Kylie can't sing seriously!!
 I can obviously accept that her voice isn't going to be everybody's cup of tea, but not liking her vocals ≠ "Kylie cannot sing". 35 years in the business, 15 albums and numerous live tours says she can!!This entire thread 
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11th September 2021, 11:49 AM
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We don't need to discredit the talents and successes of numerous women to make points about Madonna or Gaga.
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12th September 2021, 10:22 AM
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Kylie makes good songs, but she doesn't have the voice. Victoria Beckham can sing better, for example, and everyone says she can't sing!!!
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12th September 2021, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Dill Doe @ Sep 12 2021, 11:22 AM) Kylie makes good songs, but she doesn't have the voice. Victoria Beckham can sing better, for example, and everyone says she can't sing!!! Can she? Prove it |
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12th September 2021, 10:29 AM
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I sort of get where that "Kylie can't sing" comes from but it is still a reach.
Madonna isn't a great vocalist either but she uses her limited ability very well and Kylie does the same. |
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12th September 2021, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Sep 12 2021, 10:23 AM) Can she? Prove it Listen to any Spice song! Listen to Walk of Life, for example, where she dips in and out of her higher register. She is a much better vocalist. Or listen to My Love Is For Real actually. |
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12th September 2021, 12:00 PM
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I think the troll is trolling again
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12th September 2021, 12:49 PM
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Permission to burn this thread?
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13th September 2021, 03:01 AM
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I don't think people get how intrinsically tied the whole "King/Queen of Pop" is tied to the MTV revolution and the impact it had on youth culture at the time. The whole thing ties back to the impact Elvis once had on youth culture in the 1950s ("King of Rock'n'Roll"). That's why you can't "transfer" the title in itself because it's tied to a specific era and period.
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17th September 2021, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Seinfeld @ Sep 11 2021, 02:05 AM) Adelita, I think we’re all getting bored of your repetitive posts now. I mean we all know Madonna is the Queen of pop. I know it, you know it and even George Costanza knows it. Just accept it and move on. I don't care if you're tired of my posts, block me if you want as I'll only stop expressing my opinion if I get silenced or when this thread gets locked. I will never allow anyone to speak out on what I think other than myself. 
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17th September 2021, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(Dill Doe @ Sep 11 2021, 04:39 AM) GaGa has flopped too basly these days, due to not releasing Gypsy I stopped right here knowing I wouldn't need to read everything else 
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18th September 2021, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(Adelita @ Sep 17 2021, 04:42 PM) I don't care if you're tired of my posts, block me if you want as I'll only stop expressing my opinion if I get silenced or when this thread gets locked. I will never allow anyone to speak out on what I think other than myself. You’re allowed to express your opinion, but it’s so boring when you just repeat yourself ALL the time. Also, the majority of your posts just consist of quoting other members and disagreeing with them (do you ever agree with anyone but yourself?). Anyway, this is a Madonna forum and you need to respect the QUEEN OF POP! 
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18th September 2021, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(Adelita @ Sep 9 2021, 02:50 AM) She did everything she did in music because she didn't have the talent to do it in Hollywood, which was always her biggest dream (to win an Oscar). Needless to say what is Madonna's biggest inspiration, right? A certain blonde actress best known for that scene where her dress almost flies off (hint: Madonna in her prime did an entire video inspired by a movie this actress starred in)… So what if the reason she did all that in music was because her film career never took off with the exception of a few movies, if it is then brilliant it helped her become the Queen and until someone overtakes her achievements in music over a 40 year career she will hold that title. |
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18th September 2021, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE(Dill Doe @ Sep 11 2021, 08:39 AM) GaGa has flopped too basly these days, due to not releasing Gypsy first and releasing Artpop and Joanne. She is the modern Cher, the Voice of Pop. Madonna iw a huge flop these days, but she has the MARKETING title of Queen of Pop. That marketing title will not go to anyone else simply because it isn't real. Mariah Carey has sold more, for example, with wishy washy ballads and rnb mid tempos, but she isn't the Queen of Pop, qs yhe marketing didn't go that way. Madonna is seen as a chameleon and has done all styles of pop, and for that she has the title, too. Britney has the title of princess, even though she hasn't been a pop force since 2007, and again, it is because marketing titles do not transfer. Katy Perry COULD have been the "next" Queen of Pop IN FUNCTION - not in title, due to marketing - but she flopped out. GaGa COULD be our next Madonna in FUNCTION, but she will be given a different marketing title. And yes: Kylie cannot sing, but her sangs are fun. Madonna has outsold Mariah. |
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18th September 2021, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Adelita @ Sep 17 2021, 03:44 PM) I stopped right here knowing I wouldn't need to read everything else You know it's true. GaGa not releasing Gypsy as lead single lead to TWO HUGE flop eras, ending her as Queen of Pop pretendiente. Now she is the new Cher. Mariah had sold more until the 2000s, when her sales went off a cliff. |
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18th September 2021, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(Dill Doe @ Sep 18 2021, 08:29 AM) You know it's true. GaGa not releasing Gypsy as lead single lead to TWO HUGE flop eras, ending her as Queen of Pop pretendiente. Now she is the new Cher. Mariah had sold more until the 2000s, when her sales went off a cliff. Time for you to take your pills 
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