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Posted by: Ryan. 23rd August 2016, 09:42 PM
I'm sure I've seen a thread on this before so I'm probably being silly by not being able to see it now, if there is one then please merge this into it.
But Derby and Carlisle have just broken the all-time record for most penalties taken in a League Cup match, with the 32 in this match beating the 30 set by Liverpool and Middlesbrough a few seasons ago! Both shoot-outs finished 14-13.
Posted by: Silas 23rd August 2016, 09:44 PM
Oh that reminds me, I need to opt out of this.
Posted by: Rooney 23rd August 2016, 10:52 PM
Good to see Liverpool back the their usual consistently inconsistently brilliant selves.
Posted by: Mack 24th August 2016, 12:34 PM
Bristol Rovers did push Chelsea in their match but sadly not to be.
Posted by: Mack 24th August 2016, 09:28 PM
Out go Burnley and Middleborough after losing to Accrington and Fulham.
Posted by: Flatcap 26th August 2016, 08:32 PM
But Derby and Carlisle have just broken the all-time record for most penalties taken in a League Cup match, with the 32 in this match beating the 30 set by Liverpool and Middlesbrough a few seasons ago! Both shoot-outs finished 14-13.
Had to be up early the next morning otherwise I would have stayed up for this. Edge of seat stuff.
Posted by: Mack 21st September 2016, 10:00 PM
Fourth Round Draw
West Ham v Chelsea
Manchester United v Manchester City
Arsenal v Reading
Liverpool v Tottenham
Bristol City v Hull
Leeds v Norwich
Newcastle v Preston
Southampton v Sunderland
Posted by: OutstandingMixer 21st September 2016, 10:40 PM
Some good ties there. A potential banana skin for Hull I reckon.
Posted by: Mack 21st September 2016, 10:51 PM
Could will be a potential banana skin for Hull City. Looking forward to another Manchester derby.
Posted by: Houdini 21st September 2016, 11:52 PM
I've got a feeling that we're going to get knocked out by Manchester City but we'll see what happens and it should be a good game for the neutral.
Posted by: Silas 22nd September 2016, 07:50 AM
Guess I won't be opting out of this after all!
Posted by: Mack 25th October 2016, 07:51 AM
Hope that West Ham v Chelsea is remembered for the right reasons.
Posted by: Steve201 25th October 2016, 11:12 PM
I think Mourinho will get his revenge for the drubbing in the league - also he always does well in the league cup in his first season too!
Posted by: JigsawSawMan 26th October 2016, 07:48 AM
Newcastle you have to say are potential dark horses for the League Cup if they keep that kind of form they showed last night.
Posted by: Rooney 26th October 2016, 07:49 PM
The Manchester derby is absolutely dire. I was expecting much better.
Posted by: Dobbo 26th October 2016, 08:14 PM
He was always gonna play not to concede after the disaster of Sunday, knew it wouldn't be a thriller.
Posted by: Dobbo 26th October 2016, 09:12 PM
Much needed result that, winning ugly but the result is everything in cup games.
City looking lost, 6 games without a win now.
Posted by: ML Hammer95 26th October 2016, 09:23 PM
More crowd trouble again tonight. Great result though....
Posted by: Silas 26th October 2016, 09:30 PM
Jesus wept Otamendi should go to the Olympics. He'd win Gold for all that f***ing diving he did tonight. What a c**t.
Defo grinded out that result like, but it's a home derby win and at the end of the day beating shitty is all that matters about this match. Doesn't matter how ugly or how dull it is, as long as we beat them.
We now play West Ham at home twice in a matter of days.
Posted by: Steve201 26th October 2016, 10:02 PM
Cough **Ashley Young**Cough
Winning no matter what, doesn't sound like the man united way to me....
Posted by: Houdini 26th October 2016, 10:22 PM
Good to see that my feeling was wrong.
Hopefully we can build from this victory and get some consistency going. We have suffered heavy defeats in the past and bounced back from them, I remember us losing 5-0 to Chelsea in 1999 and there was the 6-1 defeat to Manchester City that we suffered but we recovered from both of those setbacks. Some of the things some rival fans have been saying over the past few days has been ridiculous and over-dramatic, they're acting as if it's the end of the world because we lost a game of football by 4 goals to nil in October. Smh
Posted by: Silas 26th October 2016, 10:50 PM
Winning no matter what, doesn't sound like the man united way to me....
Pish! Ash is no where near as bad as Otamendi was tonight. Spent about 15 minutes of the match rolling around on the floor trying to make up his mind which body part to pretend was hurt.
Spent 3 minutes directly in front of my seat in the second half rolling on the floor clutching is stomach then his thigh then his face then is leg again then his arm then his face before settling on his knee. There was nothing wrong with him at all.
Honestly diving like that should be a straight red card and automatic 3 match ban offence.
Hopefully we can build from this victory and get some consistency going. We have suffered heavy defeats in the past and bounced back from them, I remember us losing 5-0 to Chelsea in 1999 and there was the 6-1 defeat to Manchester City that we suffered but we recovered from both of those setbacks. Some of the things some rival fans have been saying over the past few days has been ridiculous and over-dramatic, they're acting as if it's the end of the world because we lost a game of football by 4 goals to nil in October. Smh
Funny how little has been made of Pep going 6 matches without a win for the first time in his entire career. (and that they drew 3-3 with bloody Celtic. CELTIC. Chester could hold Celtic to a draw
)
Posted by: Rooney 26th October 2016, 10:52 PM
Hopefully we can build from this victory and get some consistency going. We have suffered heavy defeats in the past and bounced back from them, I remember us losing 5-0 to Chelsea in 1999 and there was the 6-1 defeat to Manchester City that we suffered but we recovered from both of those setbacks. Some of the things some rival fans have been saying over the past few days has been ridiculous and over-dramatic, they're acting as if it's the end of the world because we lost a game of football by 4 goals to nil in October. Smh
Not the end of the world no - and for the record I thought you did really well this evening. Aided by the fact Kompany went off, but still, City never looked like they were going to score and United always looked a bit dangerous. I just don't know what Man Utd are trying to achieve. Obviously way too early to write anybody off, but right now you would say Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and City all look stronger.
I'd like to know what's up with Mhkyitarian..
Posted by: Silas 26th October 2016, 10:57 PM
Yes I would like too know where Mkhitaryan is. If we get him firing on all cylinders then we will be unstoppable. Praying he gets a run out against Burnley this weekend.
Posted by: Houdini 26th October 2016, 11:26 PM
Mkhitaryan has been injured apparently but I also heard a rumor that there are some personal issues with him as well to do with living in Manchester.
Posted by: 👻 Booliver 👻 27th October 2016, 08:25 AM
League Cup Quarter-Final Draw
Arsenal v Southampton
Hull v Newcastle
Liverpool v Leeds
Man Utd v West Ham
I think it'll be an Arsenal v Liverpool final.
Posted by: Soy Adrián 27th October 2016, 08:28 AM
Looking forward to dumping out unstoppable United in a few weeks.
Posted by: Silas 27th October 2016, 10:56 AM
Like you did in the FA Cup last season?
Posted by: JigsawSawMan 27th October 2016, 11:47 AM
We'll see what happens there.
I think also Oliver, that it could be an Arsenal v Liverpool final possibly. Hoping it will be Man United though. I can see Newcastle making the semis possibly. Surprised that Arsenal last won the League Cup in 1993.
Posted by: Houdini 27th October 2016, 11:53 AM
Who said that we were unstoppable? or are you confusing us with the other Manchester club?
Posted by: Soy Adrián 27th October 2016, 01:13 PM
How's the Champions League campaign going
Posted by: Silas 27th October 2016, 01:54 PM
Better than the Europa campaign we gifted to you! 😉
There's a fairly big IF in there. Not dismiliar to this if statement: If WH remember how to play football, they may avoid relegation 
Posted by: Houdini 27th October 2016, 02:19 PM
West Ham are in no position to be bantering us about European football. They got knocked out of the play-off round of the Europa League in August
Posted by: Steve201 27th October 2016, 10:12 PM
I'm not sure there's any point in comparing man united and West Ham
Posted by: Steve201 27th October 2016, 10:14 PM
Spent 3 minutes directly in front of my seat in the second half rolling on the floor clutching is stomach then his thigh then his face then is leg again then his arm then his face before settling on his knee. There was nothing wrong with him at all.
Honestly diving like that should be a straight red card and automatic 3 match ban offence.
Aye, especially when we won 4-1 3 days before. People love to kick United the second they're not winning.
Funny how little has been made of Pep going 6 matches without a win for the first time in his entire career. (and that they drew 3-3 with bloody Celtic. CELTIC. Chester could hold Celtic to a draw
)But Young notoriously wins penalties by diving in the box winning games for United! Just as bad as each other!
As for Celtic...they are in the champions league unlike some....😜
Posted by: ML Hammer95 27th October 2016, 10:33 PM
Agreed, West Ham are much better...
Posted by: Steve201 27th October 2016, 10:37 PM
Well this is it...
Posted by: Silas 27th October 2016, 10:52 PM
As for Celtic...they are in the champions league unlike some....😜
Go on then. Name the last time he did just that.
Quite how the Scottish Premier League is deserving of a UCL spot is a complete and utter mystery. Honestly they'd be better giving it to the winner of the National League.
Posted by: Soy Adrián 28th October 2016, 07:43 AM
Quite. The likes of Lingard wouldn't get near our team.
Posted by: Steve201 28th October 2016, 10:53 PM
Quite how the Scottish Premier League is deserving of a UCL spot is a complete and utter mystery. Honestly they'd be better giving it to the winner of the National League.
Anyone who has watched premier league football over the past 10 years know what he's like.
You're point on the Scottish league is ridiculous - although I fear the greed of the minority of clubs/leagues means it could go this way a lot sooner than you think. No harm to the premiership but they have money more than being a great league - when's the last time a premier league player won the World Pleyer of the year? 2008! When's the last time they made the champs league final? Was it 2014?
Posted by: Oliver 29th November 2016, 10:30 PM
Woo! 
Posted by: Mack 30th November 2016, 08:58 AM
First time in their history that Hull City have reached the semi-final of the League Cup.
Posted by: Soy Adrián 30th November 2016, 12:08 PM
You're point on the Scottish league is ridiculous - although I fear the greed of the minority of clubs/leagues means it could go this way a lot sooner than you think. No harm to the premiership but they have money more than being a great league - when's the last time a premier league player won the World Pleyer of the year? 2008! When's the last time they made the champs league final? Was it 2014?
I could make yet another point about the wealth and (relatively) even distribution of it is what makes the PL so competitive and makes it so hard for our top teams to get to the very top in Europe at the moment, but I somehow doubt the message will get through.
No coincidence that we dominated the CL in the "big four" era when the league as a whole was a bit less competitive.
Posted by: Steve201 30th November 2016, 08:49 PM
I'm not sure what is defined as the big 4 era but since the champions league start English teams have won it 4 times?
In terms of the league apart from Leicester and Blackburn it's always been the teams with huge injections of money or Manu or Arsenal. All huge concentrations of money has done for European football is create a system with 3/4 leagues with huge power generally dominated by the same teams at the disadvantage of other leagues. It's doubtful a team like Red Star Belgrade will ever create a great side and win the European cup for example.
Posted by: Dobbo 30th November 2016, 10:11 PM
Amazing how we can play like that in the cup yet when it comes to the league it's a completely different story.
Hull vs United
Southampton vs Liverpool
Are the Semis^
Posted by: Houdini 30th November 2016, 10:21 PM
Posted by: Silas 30th November 2016, 10:23 PM
Difference vs Sunday was Mkhitaryan. Same story as mid week last week. He just makes us so much better. He must start in the league now, we can't afford to bench him.
Also helps that WH only had 11 players this time instead of 14.
Was a good match. We mostly defended well, Mkhitaryan is what is missing from our attack, Zlatan needs to be a little less selfish in front of goal, great to see Martial finally back on score sheet in his best game all year and finally welcome back Bastian f***ING Schweinsteiger!!!
Posted by: Silas 30th November 2016, 10:25 PM
8 goals in the 2 games he's started since international break.
Going to go buy a lottery ticket
Posted by: Rooney 30th November 2016, 10:28 PM
Mkhitaryan is a good player, that's never been in doubt. I just don't think, for whatever reason, Mourinho fully trusts him - much like Martial.
I was hoping we would get drawn against Man Utd in the semis.
Posted by: jonny 30th November 2016, 10:37 PM
mighty tigers in the semi-finals 
In all seriousness I hope that this cup run doesn't detract from our dreams of a top 20 place finish in the prem this season.
Posted by: Steve201 30th November 2016, 11:57 PM
Also helps that WH only had 11 players this time instead of 14.
Was a good match. We mostly defended well, Mkhitaryan is what is missing from our attack, Zlatan needs to be a little less selfish in front of goal, great to see Martial finally back on score sheet in his best game all year and finally welcome back Bastian f***ING Schweinsteiger!!!
Good to see Jose has found this Armenian guy in the reserves and is making full use of the squad - great find!!😜
Posted by: Cassidy 1st December 2016, 12:22 AM
I really don't get all the hot air around Mkhi. It's just one of those things we'll never know. The reported story is that he wasn't getting game time because he wasn't fit enough/up to the speed of the League. Now he's in the team and performing far better than he did in his (brief) appearances previously. It's not something really up for debate, less so to poke fun at.
Posted by: Houdini 1st December 2016, 12:22 AM
ArsenalFanTV has me in stiches at the moment
Posted by: Rooney 1st December 2016, 12:26 AM
The best insight is from Phil Neville, "They have drawn games they should have won and if they had won those games they would be in the top four". Really Phil..
Posted by: Cassidy 1st December 2016, 12:35 AM
He said it about five times during that brief slot after the match. The man's an absolute clown. He even made Dean Ashton sound bright.
Posted by: Steve201 1st December 2016, 12:48 AM
Why can people not debate it? Yous paid a lot for him and he hasn't played a part really get for no apparent reason, it's entirely legitimate to ask questions especially when United haven't had the greatest start in the world.
Posted by: Cassidy 1st December 2016, 12:55 AM
When he was out of the side I was one (of many) questioning the reasoning behind it. Now we'll never know whether Jose was foolish or played a masterstoke. I didn't say people can't debate it, I said they shouldn't really be debating it at this point in time as it's a fruitless exercise. Less so discussing it in the belittling tone that you was coming across with. It smacks of somebody picking holes which, in a Sports forum that I find quite a balanced and open-minded one, is quite unpleasant and tedious to read.
Posted by: Soy Adrián 1st December 2016, 10:55 AM
Well we were absolute dogshit. Still, looking forward to United breaking the world transfer record for Ashley Fletcher in a few years.
Posted by: Steve201 1st December 2016, 12:50 PM
Belittling to you is football banter to me though apologies if it came across that way"!
Posted by: ML Hammer95 1st December 2016, 01:38 PM
Was at the game yesterday and West Ham were indeed dogshit. Stewarding at Old Trafford was again so OTT, treated all of us like potential hooligans.
Posted by: Silas 1st December 2016, 01:53 PM
Well having seen what you've done to your own stadium can you blame us?
Plus last round of EFL Cup involved City fans trashing the joint so it's probably over cautious about a repeat of that.
I've got my SF ticket sorted out along with one for my mum for her Christmas. Not as close to bench this time but it's third row which is awesome.
Posted by: Soy Adrián 1st December 2016, 02:13 PM
Still closer to the action than Mourinho!
Posted by: Mack'sXmasSack 1st December 2016, 03:52 PM
An Man Utd v Liverpool final then?
Posted by: Silas 1st December 2016, 07:02 PM
Haha yeah! Although he had a hotline right to the bench. They had a phone line installed so Jose could ring Rui! Got a couple of pics of them all huddled round the phone getting instructions!
Posted by: Steve201 1st December 2016, 10:52 PM
As a Liverpool fan I would love to see Southampton win a trophy because of how well the club has been run over the past few years!
Posted by: Rooney 3rd December 2016, 12:16 PM
I want Liverpool and only Liverpool to win the trophy! For me, I cannot see Manchester United NOT getting to the final. I guess for Liverpool/Southampton is just depends really. I expect it to be quite a close encounter as I don't think we will play anywhere near full strength.
Man Utd vs Liverpool final would be great for the competition, but I can't think of a team I would least like to play in the final!
Posted by: Rooney 3rd December 2016, 12:16 PM
I want Liverpool and only Liverpool to win the trophy! For me, I cannot see Manchester United NOT getting to the final. I guess for Liverpool/Southampton is just depends really. I expect it to be quite a close encounter as I don't think we will play anywhere near full strength.
Man Utd vs Liverpool final would be great for the competition, but I can't think of a team I would least like to play in the final!
Posted by: Steve201 4th December 2016, 09:52 PM
Yeh Mourinho always takes the league cup seriously in his first season at a club to install a winning mentality, I'd prob rather go out now than get beat by United in a final tho!
Posted by: Mack 11th January 2017, 10:31 PM
So far the early advantage goes to Southampton.
Posted by: Mack 25th January 2017, 08:43 AM
How do people see tonight's match between Liverpool and Southampton going?
I reckon it will be a 2-0 win to Liverpool and going through 2-1 on aggregate.
Posted by: Steve201 25th January 2017, 09:49 AM
Dunno we are in bad form. Is Van Dyk out?
Posted by: Silas 25th January 2017, 10:38 AM
I'd rather face Southampton in the final tbh. Trains back north will be much less punchy and violent that way.
Posted by: Silas 25th January 2017, 09:57 PM
Get in! That's a much nicer tie for us I reckon.
Posted by: Dobbo 25th January 2017, 10:30 PM
Well assuming we get there! Not taking anything for granted but I can't see us screwing this one up, especially now Snodders is out of the equation.
Saints yet to concede in the whole comp, very impressive. Would be a tough match.
Posted by: Silas 25th January 2017, 10:48 PM
I don't think we're going to disrespect Hull and will put on a good show. The thing that makes me confident is that Livermore and Snodgrass are both gone and that was the only positive thing going for Hull.
Soton are easier to beat than Liverpool tho. Tbh I'm just happy because it means that if I manage to land a ticket then I can get a train that won't be overrun by riots before Milton Keynes.
Posted by: Houdini 25th January 2017, 11:06 PM
I expected Liverpool to turn it around but I'm glad that they didn't. The League Cup should be going to Man United this season although Southampton will be a tough opponent.
Posted by: Steve201 25th January 2017, 11:54 PM
I would love a Southampton win - they have been a very well run club for the past decade and a trophy would round that off nicely.
Posted by: OutstandingMixer 26th January 2017, 03:10 AM
Rooney's been a bit quiet after a few defeats. Bristol City have lost 8 league games in a row and I'm still posting (in fact I'm posting more!).
Anyway, congratulations Southampton. Deserved it over both legs.
Posted by: Silas 26th January 2017, 08:21 PM
Two Hull players run into each other and then get a penalty 
Posted by: Rooney 26th January 2017, 09:21 PM
Anyway, congratulations Southampton. Deserved it over both legs.
I've just been busy!
Southampton deserved to win over the two legs. We had all the possession, but we couldn't do anything with it. We had a couple of really good chances, but so did Southampton. Congrats to them, I hope they go on and win it now. A real shame to get beat, but meh that's football. We're not in good form at the moment, loads of players are out of sorts and playing with niggles/injuries. I think this is really highlighting how short our squad depth is. The good thing is after this week, we will be back to one game a week again, so hopefully we can play ourselves in to some form.
Posted by: Silas 27th January 2017, 04:56 AM
Despite the best efforts of this noted biased prick of a ref, we're off to Wembley!!!
Hull should never have gotten that penalty and we were denied a clear as day penalty when Smalling was taken out. Then there's the frankly ludicrous hypocrisy of carding Jones, rightly, and then letting Meyler away with an identical tackle in the same place. At least Moss didn't send Jose to the stands this time for "endangering those around him" by kicking a water bottle into empty f***ing space.
We played atrociously and deserved to lose our unbeaten run this past couple of games
Posted by: Mack 26th February 2017, 11:21 AM
How do you see today's final going between Man United and Southampton?
Posted by: Silas 26th February 2017, 11:29 AM
I am hopeful that we will take our second trophy home for the 2016/17 season to keep the Charity Shield company.
We dismantled Southampton when we played them at the start of the season and that's when we were playing poorly so I'm slightly optimistic but you never really know with these things. Cup finals can do funny things
Posted by: Rooney 26th February 2017, 12:51 PM
Come on Southampton!!!
I expect the game to be fairly edgy and quiet. a 0-0 or 1-1 would not surprise me at all. If it goes to extra-time I can only see Man Utd winning, but a lot will depend on the legs of everyone and if any team just settles for penalties as is usually the case.
Posted by: Houdini 26th February 2017, 04:06 PM
We're taking this cup today, no two-ways about that! It will be a close affair though but I can see a 2-1 win for Man Utd.
Posted by: Silas 26th February 2017, 04:27 PM
I'm listening rather than watching as the rugby is taking priority in the hotel bar :/
Posted by: Silas 26th February 2017, 04:53 PM
God bless you Zlatan. God bless you! Sounds like an awesome strike too. Can't wait to see highlights.
25 goals for Zlatan now. Amazing.
Posted by: Silas 26th February 2017, 05:10 PM
I really wish that Lingard would score somewhere other than Wembley
Posted by: TMD_24 26th February 2017, 05:21 PM
Is it me or is Gary Neville have a shocker of a commentary? 
Posted by: Rooney 26th February 2017, 05:29 PM
Shocking. The way he was going on about that tackle, you'd think he'd broken someone's leg in two. Don't get wrong it wasn't a great tackle, but he actually got the ball and the man. I thought referees were meant to be doing something about players surrounding them?
Man Utd getting decisions going for them yet again though
Should be 2-2.
Posted by: Houdini 26th February 2017, 05:29 PM
Southampton have played better in the first half but i'm glad that we're winning at the moment, that was a really good free kick from Zlatan too. We're quite lucky that Southampton's first goal was ruled out for offside.
Posted by: Silas 26th February 2017, 05:37 PM
Well this going well.
Posted by: Silas 26th February 2017, 06:52 PM
Whatever we pay that man is nowhere near enough. What a signing on a free from PSG. 26 goals in all competitions, the most of any PL player. Hero.
I managed to see replays of our goals as well as listening to the whole match and then streamed the presentation. Am pure buzzing. A key decision went our way and we ground out a win against a team who performed better than us.
Southampton could be a serious threat next year
Posted by: Dobbo 26th February 2017, 07:14 PM
What a fantastic game! All credit to them though they played the better stuff mostly we were just took our chances. Jose's brilliant League Cup record continues.
Posted by: Houdini 26th February 2017, 07:26 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Southampton as they deserved to win the match to be honest but overall I'm pleased that we've got this trophy under our belts and I hope two more will follow this season. Zlatan seems to score in almost every match and is definitely the best signing that we made in the summer, goodness knows where we would be without him.
Posted by: Rooney 26th February 2017, 07:27 PM
I knew Southampton would have to do a with the devil to win that match
Fair play Man Utd, well done. Finally Liverpool fans can say you're a one man team!
Posted by: Steve201 27th February 2017, 12:16 AM
Ibra is one of my fav Man U players simply because most of the United fans didn't rate him before he arrived because they are so arrogantly premier league centric they thought he didn't do it on the big stage!
Nathan Redmond should really be in the England squad imo, if he played for a bigger club..., I mean he's as good as Sterling!
Posted by: Mack 27th February 2017, 01:09 PM
At the age of 35, Zlatan still producing top quality football.
Top quality final this was.
Shame there didn't seem to be any free-to-air highlights of this unless I missed it.
Posted by: Houdini 27th February 2017, 04:28 PM
Top quality final this was.
Shame there didn't seem to be any free-to-air highlights of this unless I missed it.
There was highlights on Channel 5 yesterday. It might be available on 5 on Demand or whatever the Channel 5 version of the iPlayer is called.
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