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Posted by: Ryan. 25th November 2016, 12:31 AM


Spain

Manel Navarro - Do It For Your Lover


Posted by: Ryan. 25th November 2016, 12:31 AM

There's a fantastic summary of what's going on with the Spanish submissions process below:

https://escxtra.com/2016/11/16/objetivo-eurovision-who-is-in-it/

Brequette is hoping to return after submitting 3 songs - collaborations with Barei. Ruth Lorenzo originally stated she would keep her word and attempt to return in 2017 although has since reportedly ruled herself out. Despite frequent poor results, Spain do what the UK can't do and pull together strong national finals with fairly high profile names - and as a result often have high quality entries until they are ruined by staging (2015, 2016) or vocals (2013).

I always look forward to the Spanish selection and 2017 will be no different!

Posted by: Inna Selez 28th November 2016, 07:54 PM

I liked Barei, still don't know how she took low place. Hope next time Spain will be at least in top ten.

Posted by: LexC 13th December 2016, 01:16 AM

This is the beefed up version of Brequette's entry (first revamp of the 2017 klaxon!)



Big improvement on the really limp demo version I must say!

Posted by: TS0301 14th December 2016, 07:58 PM

This is SO much stronger now. By far my favourite cheer.gif

Posted by: TS0301 14th December 2016, 07:58 PM

This is SO much stronger now. By far my favourite cheer.gif

Posted by: Serg Mix 14th December 2016, 10:51 PM

Sounds good biggrin.gif

Posted by: LexC 10th January 2017, 10:57 PM

So, an update about the Spanish National Final. On Thursday there'll be a "Webcasting" Final where the winner will get a place in the Actual NF which'll take place in February. The fan favorite (and this is Spain, so the fan favorite has a better chance here than in most other countries) is this work of lyrical genius.



(Barei was eliminated in the penultimate round and the other two are far worse)

The five other acts in the lineup will be announced live during the Webcasting Final but a leaky-leak posits that it'll be these five

Maika Barbero
Manel Navarro
Mario Jefferson
Mirela
Paula Rojo


Most of them are of varying degrees of unfamous, Mirela is most known for trying her luck in previous NFs in 2007 and 2009, of which this camp classic is her most fan favored


And on the flipside, Manuel Navarro is pretty much entirely a newcomer but has record label backing and importantly, for the FransFans of the world, he has terrible hair.

Posted by: LexC 10th January 2017, 10:59 PM

(that song predates the September 1st deadline but it's pretty indicative of what we should expect)

Posted by: JosephStyles 12th January 2017, 01:00 AM

Oh I actually discovered Manel a few days ago funnily enough laugh.gif I really quite like Candle although there's room for improvement. He has a new single out on Friday anyway which seems like good timing!

(oh and he has fab hair, go away Lex xx)

Posted by: LexC 12th January 2017, 11:29 PM

And LeKlein has won her(?) place in the final six. Knowing how wildcards do in these kind of things...there's surely a chance right!

The other five are exactly as rumored and a small snippet of all of them can be heard here:


Posted by: Ryan. 13th January 2017, 01:28 PM

I've listened to Manel's Eurovision song (it's on his VEVO now) and it's great! Definitely reminds me of various Colbie Caillat songs with its summery guitar vibes. It'd finally be something a bit different for Spain too and it's the sort of thing that could go top 10, thinking Roman Lob or Tom Dice.

From the snippets Mirela stood out but I do think Spain need something different to female power pop.

Posted by: JosephStyles 13th January 2017, 01:32 PM

Yeah I'm really loving the Manel song right now, an improvement on Candle too! Really like the laidback pop vibes heart.gif


Posted by: LexC 13th January 2017, 06:34 PM

I remain unimpressed. At this point I'm honestly expecting LeKlein to win for teh lolz.

Posted by: AdamAloud 13th January 2017, 07:07 PM

'Spin My Head' sounds like the classic Eurovision bop I LIVE for.

Still can't get into 'Ouch!'. I'm not sure if it's the chorus putting me off, or the fact she looks like Celine Dion and Jedward's love child.

Posted by: AdamAloud 15th January 2017, 02:02 PM

QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Jan 13 2017, 07:07 PM) *
'Spin My Head' sounds like the classic Eurovision bop I LIVE for.


I wish to retract this previous statement as the full song is so utterly lukewarm.

Posted by: Ryan. 17th January 2017, 06:36 PM

I was and still probably am expecting LeKlein to carry her momentum and win Elaiza style, however apparently in Spain it is considered that it is going to be a Manel vs Mirela showdown.

I read somewhere a while ago something along the lines of "The Spanish Eurovision fanbase is now so active and so relatively large that their favourite will be unbeatable in a televote every time". At the moment this bodes well for Mirela! Although I see a jury favouring Manel. LeKlein will probably do decently in both and may be the compromise winner.

Posted by: AdamAloud 3rd February 2017, 04:11 PM

Running order confirmed as

01. Manel Navarro - Do It For Your Lover
02. LeKlein - Ouch!!
03. Paula Rojo - Lo que nunca fué
04. Mario Jefferson - Spin My Head
05. Maika - Momento Crítico
06. Mirela - Contigo

Posted by: LexC 3rd February 2017, 04:13 PM

I mean Barei did manage to win from 2nd as the 'underdog' last year so I guess LeKlein isn't dead per se but yeah, that does seem to be favoring Mirela the most.

Posted by: aymnt 5th February 2017, 02:33 PM

English interview to Paula Rojo on the blog esctrevistas.

Posted by: Ryan. 8th February 2017, 11:43 PM

We're having an in-studio jury of music and radio professionals, no international jury this year. I can't quite predict how this will go, my instinct tells me something like this:

1st - LeKlein - 1st Vote / 2nd Jury (11 pts)
2nd - Manel - 3rd Vote / 1st Jury (10 pts)
3rd - Mirela - 2nd Vote / 4th Jury (8 pts)
4th - Paula - 5th Vote / 3rd Jury (6 pts)
5th - Mario - 4th Vote / 5th Jury (5 pts)
6th - Maika - 6th Vote / 6th Jury (2 pts)

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic because I want Mirela (or Manel as 2nd choice) to win though thinking.gif

Posted by: Ryan. 10th February 2017, 06:44 PM

They are trying their best to rig this for Manel, the jury consists of 3 radio DJs. One of which is from "Los 40" which has been playing Manel non-stop over the past few weeks. Then, if that wasn't enough, the jury will take precedence in the event of a tie after the 50/50 scores are worked out.

Posted by: Conderella 10th February 2017, 06:57 PM

Leklein or nothing

Posted by: AdamAloud 10th February 2017, 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Ryan. @ Feb 10 2017, 06:44 PM) *
They are trying their best to rig this for Manel, the jury consists of 3 radio DJs. One of which is from "Los 40" which has been playing Manel non-stop over the past few weeks. Then, if that wasn't enough, the jury will take precedence in the event of a tie after the 50/50 scores are worked out.


Well it is their best chance at a decent result this year, Mirela's song is a bop but if Edurne and Barei couldn't get on the left side of the scoreboard then 'Contigo' won't. Whereas 'Do It For Your Lover' could be a surprise hit in a Tom Dice/Gianluca kinda way.

Posted by: Ryan. 10th February 2017, 07:09 PM

I agree, I'm quite happy if they do rig it for Manel! I would of course prefer Mirela for my music taste, but Manel is a clear 2nd favourite and would mean we can avoid LeKlein (and the other horrors in this final - although I have a soft spot for Paula).

Posted by: Ryan. 10th February 2017, 10:12 PM

TOMORROW'S NATIONAL FINAL...
SPAIN



Objetivo Eurovisión


11th February 2017
Begins at 9.05pm in the UK or 10.05pm Central European Time and in Spain.
Programme is scheduled to last 1 hour 30 minutes.

Watch the selection via the http://www.rtve.es/directo/la-1/.


Running Order
01 | Manel Navarro - Do It For Your Lover
02 | LeKlein - Ouch!
03 | Paula Rojo - Lo que nunca fue
04 | Mario Jefferson - Spin My Head
05 | Maika - Momento crítico
06 | Mirela - Contigo

Voting
The result will be determined using a 50/50 split between an in-studio jury and public televoting. The in-studio jury consists of 3 members from the Spanish radio industry and in the event of a tie following the combination of the jury and televoting, the jury vote will take precedence.

The Favourites
Almost certainly a race between 3 acts, LeKlein, Manel Navarro and Mirela. Mirela seems to be the fan favourite, and this often translates into success with the Spanish televote. Manel is likely to be the jury favourite, his song is the only one of these six to be receiving regular rotation on major Spanish radio stations. LeKlein is the wildcard, she could very easily be the dark horse and do what Elaiza did and Ann Sophie did when this system was used over in Germany in 2014 and 2015. With the 50/50 system being weighted to the jury, Manel probably goes into tomorrow as slight favourite. If there is to be a compromise winner though, LeKlein will surely be that person.

Posted by: Martyn 11th February 2017, 08:45 PM

I have decided Diet Coke rather than wine will be my fuel for this, as I am already slightly tipsy.

Posted by: AdamAloud 11th February 2017, 08:46 PM

QUOTE(Martyn @ Feb 11 2017, 08:45 PM) *
I have decided Diet Coke rather than wine will be my fuel for this, as I am already slightly tipsy.


With the standard of these songs I think intoxicated is the way to go!

Posted by: Martyn 11th February 2017, 09:04 PM

QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Feb 11 2017, 08:46 PM) *
With the standard of these songs I think intoxicated is the way to go!


I have just judged it based on their photos and got myself another drink.

Posted by: AdamAloud 11th February 2017, 09:19 PM

Really good staging from Manel, it SHOULD win quite easily, but I imagine the Spanish eurogays will televote Mirela to victory.

Posted by: Martyn 11th February 2017, 09:23 PM

I am strugling to get this to stream on my TV.

Posted by: Ryan. 11th February 2017, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Feb 11 2017, 09:19 PM) *
Really good staging from Manel, it SHOULD win quite easily, but I imagine the Spanish eurogays will televote Mirela to victory.


Nah, remember the jury have the ultimate say in the event of a tie and Manel will surely be top 3 in the televote and win the jury so Mirela would have to come 2nd with the jury and I imagine they will vote against her type of song.

Posted by: Martyn 11th February 2017, 09:41 PM

I think I might give up on this.

Posted by: AdamAloud 11th February 2017, 11:06 PM

Spanish eurofans are the WORST

Posted by: JosephStyles 11th February 2017, 11:12 PM

Wow that crowd was horrible lol mellow.gif

DELIGHTED for Manel though, been loving Do It for Your Lover for a little while now, so happy he's gonna represent Spain at Eurovision wub.gif

Posted by: Ryan. 11th February 2017, 11:12 PM

QUOTE(Ryan. @ Feb 11 2017, 09:26 PM) *
Nah, remember the jury have the ultimate say in the event of a tie and Manel will surely be top 3 in the televote and win the jury so Mirela would have to come 2nd with the jury and I imagine they will vote against her type of song.


Yep this was exactly what happened, Mirela's jury 3rd place meant it went down to the jury overrule on a tie! Iconic scenes but I am gutted for Mirela after what was easily the best performance on the night, you could tell it meant so much to her too.

Manel is nevertheless a good entry, but his performance was nervous and if he repeats that in Kyiv he'll struggle severely. There is potential with it however!

Posted by: Ryan. 11th February 2017, 11:18 PM

I can't quite shake the feeling it was a bit of a set-up, two jurors out of three putting Manel first and Mirela last when all she needed was to come 5th rather than 6th with one of them to win. Even the female juror said her favourite was LeKlein but voted for Manel anyway.

I'm just bitter I know but for it to go exactly the way I expected it could go was a bit surprising!

Posted by: Martyn 11th February 2017, 11:25 PM

I feel like I missed something by giving up on this early.

Posted by: Ryan. 11th February 2017, 11:27 PM

In fact those two jurors voted identically except for one slight difference which ensured LeKlein wouldn't get in range either in case of a televote victory for her!

Posted by: JosephStyles 11th February 2017, 11:47 PM

The whole thing was an entire mess and they definitely seemed to be pulling some strings for Manel to win but I won't complain cause it was by far my favourite ph34r.gif

Posted by: Ryan. 11th February 2017, 11:53 PM

Apparently the female juror said (translated): "LeKlein is my favourite but I've given my 12 to Manel because he's always on the radios" laugh.gif

Listening to the Spanish Eurovision version for the first time, I prefer it to the original. As it is a bit shorter it feels a bit less repetitive, it'll probably settle somewhere in the middle of my rankings so far!

Soraya and Ruth both won on ties but televoting took precedence for those two, poor Mirela having the rules changed just as she was going to finally win on her 3rd attempt! (or not as the juries would've just changed their votes heehee.gif)

Posted by: Ryan. 12th February 2017, 12:53 AM

The Spanish chaos/drama/hooliganism is here to watch if you missed it:


Posted by: Conderella 12th February 2017, 08:05 AM

Yeah what a mess and I am glad I didn't watch it.

The fact one of them said that Manel has the most plays and therefore it's a better product to represent Spain. I thought this kind of fix only happens in belarussiazerbaijakraines but appaz not

#mirelaeurovision

Posted by: Conderella 12th February 2017, 09:34 AM

Such a good boy this Manel is. Flipping a bird to the public and everything. Great representation.

Posted by: ScottyEm 12th February 2017, 10:11 AM

Germany may not need to worry about getting a third consecutive last place then... Seriously, this is so truly awful.

Posted by: Qassändra 12th February 2017, 11:26 AM

Oh there's always an audience for this kind of thing.

Posted by: Liаm 14th February 2017, 02:14 AM

I've just seen his performance and I just.... no. No. Good lord.

Posted by: Ryan. 14th February 2017, 02:48 PM

Anyone thinking this scandal was just a storm in an OGAE Spain teacup is wrong, the second most popular Spanish political party is now demanding answers from RTVE over Objetivo Eurovisión due to concerns of corruption with the country's national broadcaster. In the winner's press conference that took place at RTVE yesterday, Manel was left to talk to the press alone as RTVE's head of entertainment and their head of Eurovision delegation refused to appear.

RTVE's head of entertainment also has links with Manel and his promotional team. In addition, Whatsapp messages have apparently leaked between Manel and Xavi (the male juror who put him 1st and Mirela last) from two weeks ago showing their friendliness and apparently even suggesting this wasn't just a matter of Sony buying two of the jurors but a masterplan that Manel and RTVE were both in on too. Sony Music Spain apparently said they'd pay for everything so that's why RTVE were happy to go along with it we imagine.

Xavi (the male juror) was indeed attacked following the end of the broadcast last Saturday, however not by one of the Spanish Eurofans but actually by LeKlein's songwriter. LeKlein herself has posted on social media hinting that she knows it was all rigged too.

This scandal isn't over yet!

Posted by: AdamAloud 14th February 2017, 02:59 PM

Why didn't they just internally select Manel?

Posted by: Ryan. 14th February 2017, 03:02 PM

It would've made sense! The only thing I can imagine is that Sony only put him forward after the lengthy Eurocasting wildcard online thing had already begun with the promise of a place in the national final so they didn't want to just abandon that, which is fair enough I guess.

Posted by: Ryan. 19th February 2017, 07:46 PM

Manel performed this in Ukraine's NF last night and this is Jamala during the performance:


Posted by: J▲hq 19th February 2017, 08:00 PM

You ain't Benjamin Ingrosso love

Posted by: Liаm 19th February 2017, 08:50 PM

I think them just going back on the promise of a place in the national final was preferable to rigging the whole thing for Manel laugh.gif Or they should have just trusted what the result would have actually been, much much better songs than Manel that could have done very well at Eurovision have fallen at the NF stage in many countries, it is what it is.

Posted by: JosephStyles 19th February 2017, 08:53 PM

Jamala making up for her song last year by stanning Manel *.*

Posted by: Ryan. 25th February 2017, 12:11 AM

Media reports coming out of Spain tonight that their Eurovision head of delegation has now resigned, two weeks before the head of delegations meeting in Kyiv where songs must be handed in. It's scandal after scandal!

Posted by: AdamAloud 10th March 2017, 04:23 PM

Official video


Posted by: JosephGutierrez 6th October 2017, 11:36 PM

So last night, Manel played a (very) small gig at the Hard Rock Café in London and I thought I'd head over, seeing as Do It for Your Lover is one of my favourite songs of the year. I had such a great time, the audience wasn't particularly substantial but it allowed for a lot of chat time, Manel and I spent a good 10 minutes talking while he had a cigarette outside laugh.gif He's very down to earth, we spoke about a wide range of things (travelling, work, Ed Sheeran, music in general), and he said he was very proud of his Eurovision journey although he prefers Do It for Your Lover in English and he had to translate it for Eurovision. He also came and sat with me outside the café to tune his guitar as it was too noisy inside! laugh.gif Was amazing getting to chat to him, and his performance was fab too. Plus I got a https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ4O2sSH56K/?taken-by=josephstyles11 of https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ4iiqiHVCl/?taken-by=josephstyles11 with him x

Posted by: Liаm 7th October 2017, 01:06 AM

Cool x

Posted by: JosephGutierrez 7th October 2017, 08:01 AM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Oct 7 2017, 02:06 AM) *
Cool x

mellow.gif OK...

Posted by: Liаm 7th October 2017, 08:10 AM

omg that was drunk posting when i got home soz laugh.gif I wish I could be as amusing as Sam instead :')

Posted by: JosephGutierrez 7th October 2017, 08:16 AM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Oct 7 2017, 09:10 AM) *
omg that was drunk posting when i got home soz laugh.gif I wish I could be as amusing as Sam instead :')

laugh.gif no worries, it seemed so out of the blue that I was confused lmaooo

Posted by: Cameron 7th October 2017, 05:57 PM

Did he wash his hair, did you wash your hair?

(Seriously though, ik how much you love him so I’m so glad you got to actually meet him!!!!)

Posted by: JosephGutierrez 7th October 2017, 06:32 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Oct 7 2017, 06:57 PM) *
Did he wash his hair, did you wash your hair?

(Seriously though, ik how much you love him so I’m so glad you got to actually meet him!!!!)

cow xx

His hair was actually even better up close *.*

Posted by: Cameron 7th October 2017, 06:46 PM

Yasss!!!

Posted by: Lorderella 8th October 2017, 04:30 PM

you slut

Posted by: JosephGutierrez 8th October 2017, 04:35 PM

Absolutely x

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