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 Nicola Sturgeon resigns & SNP Leadership Election |
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 15th February 2023, 09:27 PM
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Rowling is a menace, plain and simple. Definition of power corrupting. She keeps quiet that she's a devout Presbyterian as well which no doubt informs her rhetoric.
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15th February 2023, 09:27 PM
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From a look at the list of current SNP MSPs, they are going to have to look beyond people with fishy surnames. Widening it to food (including sweets) makes Jenni Minto and Willie Coffey the early favourites with Keith and Siobhian (Hash) Browns an outside bet.
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15th February 2023, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(J00prstar @ Feb 15 2023, 09:27 PM)  Rowling is a menace, plain and simple. Definition of power corrupting. She keeps quiet that she's a devout Presbyterian as well which no doubt informs her rhetoric. She has mentioned those religious beliefs in the past, and no doubt they do inform her views, you're right. I'm not surprised No is up in the vote at the moment. We have lurched from crisis to crisis, thanks to the Tories, and the global security situation at the moment is ... tremulous. The cost of living crisis has bills SKY HIGH and food prices are waaay over the 10% inflation of luxury Tory goods, and Scotland always has Russian subs lurking in its waters. No wonder that the Yes side is suffering. |
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15th February 2023, 11:18 PM
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I was very shocked to hear about No winning the polls, I thought the Scottish were very much in favour of independence?
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15th February 2023, 11:54 PM
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Well shocked to hear her resign. She is miles better than any of the Tories in Westminster which wouldn’t be hard. Will be hard to find someone as strong as her as a replacement.
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16th February 2023, 02:07 AM
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As a trans person outside the UK its depressing how much the press focuses on making life harder for us, any1 with the slightest respect for trans people can clearly see that trans prisoners should get to choose where they stay and that a GRC doesn't endanger cis people at all, it just gives us a little bit of dignity, and they're more worried about the chance that we might endanger cis people, when we are the 1s in danger and cis people who do the same or worse harm still get trusted in being treated as the gender they are
I know all of that has been said countless times and it just exhausts me how cis people have been running in a hamster wheel of surface level ignorant fearmongering and debates amongst themselves for years now without learning anything, and they're treated more seriously than trans people who have to live with cis people thinking they're more rational and victimised while being the opposite, and the only way to win is just trying not to engage with it at all to save your energy, and that'sn't even a guarantee if 1 terf finds a tweet of yours I'm happy to see Nicola Sturgeon, a cis woman with power, stand up for trans rights, and it sucks she or any politician with a spine get endlessly berated for it, I hope that the tides turn, it has to, I don't know when, but I hope at the very least trans acceptance becomes normal of politicians soon, and later on expected This post has been edited by ~1^∞: 16th February 2023, 02:16 AM |
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16th February 2023, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE(spiceboy @ Feb 16 2023, 12:18 AM) I was very shocked to hear about No winning the polls, I thought the Scottish were very much in favour of independence? We are, one poll for the daily Hitler doesn’t erase that |
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16th February 2023, 04:54 PM
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So potential successors being bandied around include Ash Regan, a fully-fledged TERF and Kate Forbes, by all accounts an evangelical nutjob/potential homophobe. Joy.
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16th February 2023, 05:37 PM
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Very shocked to hear this!
Sturgeon was the most effective party leader opposing the Tories and now she’s gone I can’t see much hope for Scottish independence which is a pity. Feels like the (English) Tories once again have played the agenda wonderfully for them with the constant culture wars winning over. Scum so they are. The only decent leaders I can see are Stephen Flynn (an excellent orator at Westminster) or Hamsa Yousef in the Scottish parliament. And don’t get me started on that scumbag Douglas Ross who couldn’t even show some dignity yday and thank her for her service. |
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21st February 2023, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Feb 16 2023, 04:54 PM) So potential successors being bandied around include Ash Regan, a fully-fledged TERF and Kate Forbes, by all accounts an evangelical nutjob/potential homophobe. Joy. Lo and behold: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64715944 |
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21st February 2023, 12:24 PM
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Idk who is advising her but they blew up her campaign on day one. The terf wing aside, the membership of the SNP is rather progressive and this will go down like a lead balloon.
Personally I think she’s a very capable and excellent finance Secretary @Steve - it’ll need to be a MSP chosen as they will become first minister and you would have a weird dynamic to have the First Minister to be subservient to a Westminster politician. It would vastly undermine like half the argument for independence! |
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21st February 2023, 04:46 PM
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Yeh true I had my NI politics head on when I mentioned an MP as people like Jeffrey Donaldson stand as a MLA in NI and the day after the election stand down and give the MLA job to another party colleague sticking two fingers up at the electorate, thankfully doesn’t happen as much inUK politics!
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15th March 2023, 07:49 AM
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I'm very much backing Humza Yousaf. I'm not a fan of any of the candidates but I feel he's the only one with the vision and compassion to be the leader of Scotland. He represents the best of the SNP out the three of them but it's not a high bar to break.
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15th March 2023, 09:09 AM
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I’m backing neither, I honestly think the SNP is going to have an embarrassing fall in the next elections!
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15th March 2023, 09:19 PM
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It's all a bit disappointing that she didn't have an obvious primed successor and that 2 of the 3 candidates want to drop the Gender Recognition Bill (and the only one pro trans rights isn't impressing people) Is it because of the horrificly toxic environment for standing up for trans rights that people sympathetic to the cause are too scared to stand? That's (without knowing the ins and outs of Scottish politics) what it looks like to me sadly. As usual, the arseholes won.
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15th March 2023, 10:07 PM
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Labour are really gonna benefit, even i don’t see myself supporting SNP
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27th March 2023, 01:15 PM
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Humza Yousaf elected the new leader, 52% to Kate Forbes' 48% after second-preference votes.
Seemed like the good option, cool cool. |
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27th March 2023, 01:38 PM
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I feel it COMING!
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Phew!!
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27th March 2023, 01:55 PM
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That’s a relief
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27th March 2023, 02:27 PM
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Definitely, the other two are nutters and I would have felt very concerned had either won.
Lol @ how far behind Ash Regan trailed. |
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