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Chez Wombat
post Mar 13 2023, 07:07 PM
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Good to see, though the damage to the BBC from this isn't gonna go away. They've now essentially pissed off both sides and shown everyone exactly what they are which won't be easy to shake. Sooner the next GE and the Tory plants up top are out the better, although still quite a while sad.gif
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post Mar 13 2023, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(Mack. @ Mar 13 2023, 03:45 PM) *
Fantastic to see Gary Lineker back but yet still Fiona Bruce who dressed a bit inappropriately for Crimewatch all those years ago stays as presenter on Question Time it isn't okay at all.

Don’t think how Fiona Bruce decides to dress is the problem here????
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post Mar 13 2023, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Mar 13 2023, 06:59 PM) *
Hopefully this is a turning of the tide and an eye opener for the media. They’ve not been playing to their audience for a long time.


I'd love to agree but although this is a very satisfying climbdown, the BBC is still owned by a Tory and has them in leadership positions. Plus on this occasion they picked on probably the most popular man in the most popular sport in the UK. Most times their targets aren't in a position to get the mainstream support, sadly. However, it has opened more eyes to the corruption that is going on so perhaps they'll be slightly more careful, who knows?
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post Mar 14 2023, 05:11 AM
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This feels like a decent conclusion but no long-term solutions, that will only happen once the current team heading up the BBC are gone.
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Mack.
post Mar 14 2023, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Silas @ Mar 13 2023, 08:12 PM) *
Don’t think how Fiona Bruce decides to dress is the problem here????

Sorry I meant this:


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I’m not disputing what you’re saying” but said that while Johnson’s wife had said he had broken her nose and she had ended up in hospital as a result, “Stanley Johnson has not commented on that. Friends of his have said it did happen, it was a one-off.”
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post Mar 14 2023, 11:07 AM
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It was the right conclusion, but it was unfortunate that it ever came to this really. The BBC has angered just about everyone; initially caving to pressure from the right wing press and parts of the UK Government and then a humiliating collapse to further pressure from its own sports team and increasing public/political pressure. It was absolutely ridiculous that you had those that have been disingenuously claiming anger at so-called 'cancel culture' shamelessly calling for him to be sacked for his comments - have some consistency in your argument.

I think the Fiona Bruce situation is a little different though. I imagine that they knew that the topic of Stanley Johnson would come up and the legal team prepared that statement for her to read out. That doesn't change the optics of minimising domestic abuse with the flippant sign off 'it was a one-off' but I do understand why she had to interrupt to make it clear that Yasmin's comments were opinion and not fact, and I don't think it's consistent to call her out for that.

No matter how much of a Tory shill she is xx
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Silas
post Mar 14 2023, 11:14 AM
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I think it’s right to call her out for that sign-off. That was beyond legal talk and straight into minimisation and someone who claims to be so deeply involved in the cause, that was just callous language and she should have known better.
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Long Dong Silver
post Mar 14 2023, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ Mar 14 2023, 11:14 AM) *
I think it’s right to call her out for that sign-off. That was beyond legal talk and straight into minimisation and someone who claims to be so deeply involved in the cause, that was just callous language and she should have known better.


THIS!!!

A legal statement could be something like: "Allegations of domestic abuse have been made against Blojo's Tory dad (who spawned the worst prime minister in history), by his late wife. She claimed he broke her nose in one incident. Blojo's (aristocratic pos) father hasn't commented on the matter, and he has not been convicted."

Covers them legally and doesn't minimise domestic violence. She literally flippantly said, it was a one off!!!, in defence of her Tory overlords. She really should have known better, and it vame across as a purposeful defence via minimisation.
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Long Dong Silver
post Mar 14 2023, 04:01 PM
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Labour FINALLY saying it how it is - though it should have done so in 2017 and ESPECIALLY up to 2019, when BBTory went IN on Corbyn as a threat to thr Tory establishment - and has said that BBC acted like something "from Putin's Russia". Correct! BbTory is nothing more thsn government propaganda these days.
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post Mar 14 2023, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(crazy chris @ Mar 11 2023, 05:46 PM) *
Linekar deserves all he gets. His Tweets were bang out of order. What if I'd said something similar about Nazis here? It's a very sore subject.

Plus he refused to answer his phone to his bosses and refused to go in and see them. Would you ignore calls from your boss? Anyone who stands by him should be fired too.

I can't believe you all supporting him here. Free Speech, yes, but what he said justifies his sacking, permanently.



He is spot on actually and anyone offended by it are completely missing the point by not being offended by the actual actions of the government towards vulnerable people.
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spiceboy
post Mar 14 2023, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(Mack. @ Mar 11 2023, 06:14 PM) *
Now Sunak gets his oar in:


He is a twat. How is it compassionate to send exploited and abused people to a country with a horrific human rights record?!? Honestly you can’t make it up.
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Long Dong Silver
post Mar 16 2023, 01:36 AM
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Former BBC staffers have expressed concerns about the leaked WhatsApp and email messages suggesting the corporation bowed to pressure from No 10 to avoid using the word “lockdown” at the start of the pandemic and to turn up criticism of Labour.1

He said the “most troubling aspect of this is that these messages suggest that the political news team were not just made aware of Downing Street’s view but encouraged to reflect it as the BBC view … That’s pretty scandalous”.

New article in the Guardian, with ex BBC reporters quoted in it. Some retweeted thr allegatioms!!!

Seems I was right, Popchartfreak!!! The BBTory is government, Tory, establishment propaganda. Fascism.
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