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 Brexit II: This Time It's Irreversible, All the trade talks and future relationship bits |
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 1st July 2020, 04:49 PM
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 Bitch of t seet
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Jul 1 2020, 01:37 PM)  So it will take hard work? Boris just won’t bother then. And don’t pretend having no trade with the EU is a worry for you, you won’t concerned at all when you voted for this. I mean he also stated several times that he wanted out no matter what. Now that, after several warnings by us, the time might be here a 180 has been done. It's ridiculous to be honest 
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1st July 2020, 06:26 PM
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 Queen of Soon
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QUOTE(Harve @ Jul 1 2020, 11:54 AM) Nor me. I'm also gonna be coming back to France after Christmas before 31st December because I won't have a carte de séjour by then and getting 'tourist' stamped in my passport by the French border from January 1st will be a death knell for my life here. I’ll third this! (he types from Scotland) I agree. Christmas at home is nice but being safely in the EU before the end of this year is the single most important thing |
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5th July 2020, 02:01 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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I see the Chancellor's being urged by the CBI, Labour, many charities and many others to give ever adult in the UK £500 and every child £250 to kick-start the economy. There'd just be 2 rules. Can't be used online or on food. It's to stimulate the High St. mainly and small businesses. BRING IT ON. Great idea. Come on Rishi.
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5th July 2020, 02:12 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jul 5 2020, 03:01 PM) I see the Chancellor's being urged by the CBI, Labour, many charities and many others to give ever adult in the UK £500 and every child £250 to kick-start the economy. There'd just be 2 rules. Can't be used online or on food. It's to stimulate the High St. mainly and small businesses. BRING IT ON. Great idea. Come on Rishi. I don't see how they could enforce those rules. On the plus side, if people were to get that much money I hope a lot of people would use it to pay off their debts and such. |
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5th July 2020, 02:22 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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QUOTE(Envoirment @ Jul 5 2020, 03:12 PM) I don't see how they could enforce those rules. On the plus side, if people were to get that much money I hope a lot of people would use it to pay off their debts and such. Nah they'd probably spend it on booze or something. Surely easy to say it can't be used online. Don't give any code to enter. They should say no loo rolls either. 
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5th July 2020, 03:46 PM
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Radical Pink Troll
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Well I’m still not intending to go to a non food shop any time soon so I’d probably just add the money to my savings.
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5th July 2020, 03:50 PM
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I think the idea is that the money would be in the form of time-limited vouchers that can only be spent in certain types of outlet. The intention is that the money should be spent and not added to savings.
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5th July 2020, 03:53 PM
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Radical Pink Troll
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In that case, I can’t see how I’d spend the money. Sure I could buy something extravagant but I really don’t want to have to go to shops before I’m comfortable.
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5th July 2020, 03:53 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Shows a society addicted to capitalism imo.
Yes, be good if it could be used for debts. Seems the government keeps getting on the verge of realising the best thing for society is for benefits to be generous and easily accessible because that will keep the economy going, but then not quite making the connection. As someone who's been in that position, if you had more money, you would simply put it straight back out into the local economy again where it would be collected again through VAT and taxes, because it wouldn't be enough to save but would be enough to make your existence more pleasant. Would you agree, Chris? That if the ESA (?) you got was say £100 more a month, you'd probably spend it on things you wanted or things to make life more enjoyable, instead of squirrelling it away somewhere? |
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5th July 2020, 10:09 PM
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Queen of Soon
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I firmly believe that there should be economic stimulus but it should be in two forms:
- 5x £20 vouchers redeemable at any restaurant for eat in or take out. - support the hospitality industry that has been extremely heavily hit. Gov automatically collects 1/6th of this back in VAT. Rest enters the economy at the hands of low paid workers. - one time stimulus cheque of £1000 - Anyone on 40% rate at its newly raised threshold gets nowt. Anyone on 30k+ gets 500 instead. Lower the wage the more likely it will re-enter the economy quickly through essential purchases. Some will use it to pay off debts (good as then they have more free cash to spend), some may support tourism industry or hospitality. And yes some will go and buy a big tv. So what. It’s all spending at business that employ low paid workers, it keeps these people employed and paying tax. Gov collects VAT. All round wins. Anyone earning a serious sum of cash would save and not spend and so it’s just pissing money up the wall. Measures to stimulate the economy should be aimed at people on the average wage and below. They’re the ones who will use the cash to actually stimulate the economy instead of stimulating a bank in the caymans |
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5th July 2020, 11:14 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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QUOTE(J00psyMethyd @ Jul 5 2020, 04:53 PM) Would you agree, Chris? That if the ESA (?) you got was say £100 more a month, you'd probably spend it on things you wanted or things to make life more enjoyable, instead of squirrelling it away somewhere? Yes you're right I would. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: 6th July 2020, 06:47 AM |
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6th July 2020, 07:49 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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Sounds like a Kevin Bridges joke that if benefits were 1000 quid a week that would get the economy booming people Turing up to the job centre in Taxis and leaving them running 😂
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9th July 2020, 12:59 PM
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Things must be bad if Liz Truss — of all people — is worried. It's almost as if people haven't been predicting this for years. |
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9th July 2020, 03:15 PM
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Queen of Soon
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It’s almost as if we could do with another 24 months of an implementation period to ensure everything is fully in place...
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9th July 2020, 09:03 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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QUOTE(Quarantilas @ Jul 9 2020, 04:15 PM) It’s almost as if we could do with another 24 months of an implementation period to ensure everything is fully in place... Shhh...Don't give them ideas. We've waited long enough to leave the EU and now it's finally happening we can't have any more delays or extensions. Any problems can be ironed out in January. It's like anything in life really, there are unforeseen snags with everything usually but they get ironed out in the end. Think positive. |
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10th July 2020, 10:02 AM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jul 9 2020, 10:03 PM) Shhh...Don't give them ideas. We've waited long enough to leave the EU We left the EU on 31st January 2020 at 11pm, get over it. |
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10th July 2020, 10:03 AM
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Radical Pink Troll
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jul 9 2020, 10:03 PM) Shhh...Don't give them ideas. We've waited long enough to leave the EU and now it's finally happening we can't have any more delays or extensions. Any problems can be ironed out in January. It's like anything in life really, there are unforeseen snags with everything usually but they get ironed out in the end. Think positive. Silas’s point was these snags were not unforeseen. Anyway we’ve been out of the EU almost 6 months, isn’t it everything you always wanted? |
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10th July 2020, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jul 9 2020, 10:03 PM) Shhh...Don't give them ideas. We've waited long enough to leave the EU and now it's finally happening we can't have any more delays or extensions. Any problems can be ironed out in January. It's like anything in life really, there are unforeseen snags with everything usually but they get ironed out in the end. Think positive. I’m aware I’m talking to a brick wall but the idea that someone who has been wanting to go on holiday for a few years and has been waiting for a plane to be built in order to do this, would still go on the plane despite it not being ready to fly because they can sort out the problems whilst in the air is ludicrous |
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10th July 2020, 10:54 AM
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 Break the tension
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jul 9 2020, 10:03 PM) Shhh...Don't give them ideas. We've waited long enough to leave the EU and now it's finally happening we can't have any more delays or extensions. Any problems can be ironed out in January. It's like anything in life really, there are unforeseen snags with everything usually but they get ironed out in the end. Think positive. So sick of hearing you say this it's unreal. |
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10th July 2020, 11:06 AM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jul 9 2020, 10:03 PM) Shhh...Don't give them ideas. We've waited long enough to leave the EU and now it's finally happening we can't have any more delays or extensions. Any problems can be ironed out in January. It's like anything in life really, there are unforeseen snags with everything usually but they get ironed out in the end. Think positive. We have left. That isn't changing. It's about getting it right — during a pandemic and economic crash — rather than making it unnecessarily worse. |
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