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 Apr 3 2020, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 05:52 PM)  Selling off the NHS would be political suicide. Boris apparently likes being PM. He's nor going to knowingly do anything to risk not being returned to power at the next election. The problem is Boris only likes his job because it’s fun to say that he’s PM. He has been shirking a lot of responsibility and clearly isn’t up to the job. It’s why we’re all terrified. |
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Apr 3 2020, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 04:52 PM) Selling off the NHS would be political suicide. Boris apparently likes being PM. He's nor going to knowingly do anything to risk not being returned to power at the next election. He lowkey has when he failed to take measures against the virus to prevent in spreading and already crushing the NHS staff in the first 2 weeks |
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Apr 3 2020, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 05:54 PM) It's not essential though. Not like food and water. People not online can go to libraries and internet cafes to use the net. Not during lockdown they can’t. |
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Apr 3 2020, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(🍆 @ Apr 3 2020, 12:50 PM) I will never understand why American people don't want free healthcare for all there. Or at least they don't want it bad enough. It's literally everyone's right. Even Russia has that and as much as there have been talks about trying to make the system stricter on unemployed people, nothing will change in the next many years. the idea of universal healthcare has become more popular here over the last few years. its just that anytime the idea even gets so much as a mention by sanders or ocasio-cortez in public spheres republicans and establishment democrats are quick to raise the "SOCIALISM!!!" alarm and it falls through, bc socialism is still a dirty word here. |
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Apr 3 2020, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Apr 3 2020, 05:56 PM) The problem is Boris only likes his job because it’s fun to say that he’s PM. He has been shirking a lot of responsibility and clearly isn’t up to the job. It’s why we’re all terrified. Are we all terrified? Wouldn't say I am but maybe a bit apprehensive that I may get it. If you stay in though it's unlikely that you will. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: Apr 3 2020, 04:58 PM |
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Apr 3 2020, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 04:54 PM) It's not essential though. Not like food and water. People not online can go to libraries and internet cafes to use the net. Can they do that now? Ah yes, that's a point. The cost of food and water. And while we're at it, housing. We all need it, ergo, we should all have free access to it. Those that withhold it to sit on an 'investment' are parasites on our society and this crisis has thrown that into the spotlight. |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:01 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 05:54 PM) It's not essential though. Not like food and water. People not online can go to libraries and internet cafes to use the net. How's that working out for them these days? 
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Apr 3 2020, 05:01 PM
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In case anyone's interested, Boris still has "mild virus symptoms" so is still self-isolating.
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Apr 3 2020, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 05:58 PM) Are we all terrified? Wouldn't say I am but maybe a bit apprehensive that I may get it. If you stay in though it's unlikely that you will. It’s not just the virus that terrifies people it’s the completely inept government we have too. It’s easy to say ‘stay inside, you’ll be fine’ when you are forced to go to a supermarket full of customers not following guidelines just so that you can eat. I’m terrified because I still don’t think they’re telling us everything because they care more about how they look than what they do. |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 06:01 PM) In case anyone's interested, Boris still has "mild virus symptoms" so is still self-isolating. Translation: death rate still soaring so I’ll hide out another week and let someone else take the heat. I wonder what the excuse will be next week. |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:03 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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The whole issue is that people can't stay in because everyone needs food. And selfish panic buyers have taken all the slots for food delivery.
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Apr 3 2020, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(J00ps @ Apr 3 2020, 06:03 PM) The whole issue is that people can't stay in because everyone needs food. And selfish panic buyers have taken all the slots for food delivery. No I think you'll find that it's virtually impossible now to get a delivery slot because of the sheer demand from people who are scared to go out or from those who are self-isolating or ill. |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 05:52 PM) Selling off the NHS would be political suicide. Boris apparently likes being PM. He's nor going to knowingly do anything to risk not being returned to power at the next election. That's why they do it by STEALTH. The tories always promise not to sell something off. And guess what? 10 years later, it's gone. Oops. |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Apr 3 2020, 05:24 PM) Oh I am sorry. What rattled your cage today?  Am sick of Boris and the Tories being blamed for the NHS not getting supplies. No-one could have predicted this would happen this year. There would still have been problems had Corbyn been PM today. It'll be sorted out. Chris Chris Chris you're so naive. Mentally ill people killing themselves because there is no care available, depressed ditto, long waiting times for operations, hours waiting to get seen, hours more on trolleys in agony, these are all actual things I've seen I've been on first-name terms with the NHS over the last 10 years, virtually. Meanwhile private hospitals get to stuff their difficult cases onto the NHS so they can make shitloads of money dealing with more minor things and the taxpayer takes up the bulk of the very expensive ops. Johnson promised 350m a week for the NHS. If it hadnt been for the coronavirus he'd have delivered bugger all. The Tories presided over doctor and nurse shortages, as you'll find out if you ever need hospital treatment. PS there is no after care. You go home, goodbye. Or you go to the cemetery. Johnson is a shirker, always has been. It's not just the virus he has that is making him look so haggard after 3 months in power, it's the realisation that he's out of his depth, and reality has hit him squarely in the balls. He has killed people by being such a dick. It's on his conscience for the rest of his life, and nothing he claims to try and excuse it will change that fact. He thought it was just the flu and was more bothered about getting Brexit Done. Suddenly not such a priority for him, I'm guessing, given the people who voted for it are dying just as much as those who didn't. I do agree though that the NHS is absolutely guaranteed to be safe for the next 20 or 30 years. Any politician who dares even talk about touching it will be crucified. Corvid-19 has seen to that. Not Boris. |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:10 PM
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rip in peace Dickston
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I need to stop coming in here because it genuinely scares me now. Yesterday my grandma (76 with diabetes) and Aunty (58 with terminal ovarian cancer) got on their plane back to the UK from Australia... They’ve been isolated for the past 2 weeks over here, as have the rest of us for the most part bar work & essential shopping, but only just managed to sort out flights with the embassy and Emirates who seemingly forgot about them until the other day. The situation over there sounds dire and I just can’t think about all my family I have in the UK having to struggle through this
Luckily my grandma on the other side of my family has been self isolated for 3 weeks now. Groceries are delivered to her door via friends or family who leave it on the doorstep for her to collect once they’ve left. She’s thinking smart but living on her own in that huge house now my grandad isn’t there anymore worries me just as much as if she was still walking about in public |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(Dexton @ Apr 3 2020, 06:10 PM) I need to stop coming in here because it genuinely scares me now. Yesterday my grandma (76 with diabetes) and Aunty (58 with terminal ovarian cancer) got on their plane back to the UK from Australia... They’ve been isolated for the past 2 weeks over here, as have the rest of us for the most part bar work & essential shopping, but only just managed to sort out flights with the embassy and Emirates who seemingly forgot about them until the other day. The situation over there sounds dire and I just can’t think about all my family I have in the UK having to struggle through this Luckily my grandma on the other side of my family has been self isolated for 3 weeks now. Groceries are delivered to her door via friends or family who leave it on the doorstep for her to collect once they’ve left. She’s thinking smart but living on her own in that huge house now my grandad isn’t there anymore worries me just as much as if she was still walking about in public if there's anything the lounge mods can do to help make this a safer place, please let me know. this is a terrifying situation and i'm not sure all of the discussion here is completely appropriate (i find it a bit hard to read sometimes as well), what do you guys think about moving the nitty gritty parts of it to the politics forum? |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:27 PM
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^ 100% all of what Lotti said.
If people would feel more comfortable with this thread (and its predecessors) being moved to the News & Politics forum, for the sake of your mental health, wellbeing, sanity, or just not having to see it in such a prominent section of the forum, then that's what we'll do. The community thread can remain where it is in the Lounge though, as long as we all know what its purpose is. |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:30 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Re the internet discussion I'm not sure why we bother responding because the valid points made are just pivoted away from on to another topic without so much as a "good point, you're right about that". Making this less a conversation or discussion and more a tract of one person posting their opinions and talking AT everyone else and not actually replying to anything they don't like the sound of or which challenges their established views.
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Apr 3 2020, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(J00ps @ Apr 3 2020, 06:30 PM) Re the internet discussion I'm not sure why we bother responding because the valid points made are just pivoted away from on to another topic without so much as a "good point, you're right about that". Making this less a conversation or discussion and more a tract of one person posting their opinions and talking AT everyone else and not actually replying to anything they don't like the sound of or which challenges their established views. I have replied to everything and all the points made and think we actually have a good discussion here. At least this place is not full of idiots like some other forums. I admit I was wrong as people can't go to Net cafes and libraries now. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: Apr 3 2020, 05:34 PM |
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Apr 3 2020, 05:33 PM
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I think it should stay here. People don't have to come into the thread after all .
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