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post May 18 2019, 09:03 AM
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The Tories are going to be shit-scared of being wiped out and a left-wing Labour gov getting in, they will always look after number one regardless of the consequences. That means jolly old uncle Boris, or some hot new candidate with no baggage that might attract voters. Not seeing the latter at the mo.....

Gove would be like giving power to Golom. Though it would be fun to see Gove vs Johnson stabbing each other in the back and letting a dark horse through. (Cos that turned out so well last time)
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post May 18 2019, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(LexC @ May 17 2019, 01:09 PM) *
Penny Mordauntís constituency is 30 seconds away from my house and can I just say ANYBODY but her!

I listed her as one of the less-bad options not because she's done anything good, but because she's managed to be in the cabinet for nearly 2 years without saying or doing anything repulsive, unless I've not been paying attention. That's quite a feat for a Tory and even more impressive given that she's a Brexiteer.
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post May 18 2019, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Harve @ May 18 2019, 10:10 AM) *
I listed her as one of the less-bad options not because she's done anything good, but because she's managed to be in the cabinet for nearly 2 years without saying or doing anything repulsive, unless I've not been paying attention. That's quite a feat for a Tory and even more impressive given that she's a Brexiteer.


She's caused some controversy over here in certain parts of the community recently due to her pledge to grant amnesty to British soldiers facing charges in Northern Ireland, including those involved in Bloody Sunday.
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post May 18 2019, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ May 18 2019, 10:03 AM) *
The Tories are going to be shit-scared of being wiped out and a left-wing Labour gov getting in, they will always look after number one regardless of the consequences. That means jolly old uncle Boris, or some hot new candidate with no baggage that might attract voters. Not seeing the latter at the mo.....



Boris will win in a landslide if he gets to the last two.

There needs to be a proper contest this time and not just a coronation like last time.


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post May 18 2019, 03:47 PM
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I think Gove would be the best of a bad bunch. Boris Johnson is clearly popular with the Tory membership but I think almongst MPs he's genuinely disliked. Mainly because he suit what is best for himself. He would be a very populist choice of Leader and I'm sure many people who vote for him at any General Election in the same way people vote for Corbyn.

Doesn't matter who they get, I can't see them winning any majority at a General Election. Someone like Javid or Raab would be a horrible choice.
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post May 18 2019, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ May 18 2019, 04:47 PM) *
Doesn't matter who they get, I can't see them winning any majority at a General Election. Someone like Javid or Raab would be a horrible choice.



I can see Boris getting a small working majority if the election's not until 2022.


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post May 18 2019, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ May 18 2019, 05:14 PM) *
I can see Boris getting a small working majority if the election's not until 2022.


I can't see that if Brexit happens, especially a harder version. No party will be able to command a majority.
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post May 18 2019, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ May 18 2019, 03:23 PM) *
She's caused some controversy over here in certain parts of the community recently due to her pledge to grant amnesty to British soldiers facing charges in Northern Ireland, including those involved in Bloody Sunday.

She's been defence secretary for barely a few weeks and she's already taken the opportunity to double-down on Gavin Williamson's bellicose tenure as defence secretary?? Christ.

Yeah let's actually not play the Let's Find The Least Problematic Tory game cuz unsurprisingly they've all done something awful. x Even with the outriders like Anna Soubry who might stick up for some things we care about.
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post May 19 2019, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ May 18 2019, 03:23 PM) *
She's caused some controversy over here in certain parts of the community recently due to her pledge to grant amnesty to British soldiers facing charges in Northern Ireland, including those involved in Bloody Sunday.


Most tories such as Johnny Mercer have been falling over themselves to align themselves with right wing loyalism since the new generation came to power in 2010 totally stompin all over the great legacy of the GFA, of which the foundations were created by John Major in the early 90s.
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post May 21 2019, 09:16 PM
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It's emerged tonight that FOUR Tory leadership challengers could go forward to the ballot of party members.

That would be very good news for Boris.

Boris Johnson is favourite to be the next Prime Minister.
At the moment, only two contenders are allowed through to the final run-off, with a ballot of party members deciding which of them is the winner.

But it has emerged that the executive of the 1922 Committee of Tory backbenchers and the party's ruling board are to consider calls to double that number to four.
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post May 21 2019, 09:22 PM
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Yeah, just make up the rules as you go along. And this bunch of clueless numpties are supposed to be running the country.
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post May 21 2019, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 21 2019, 10:22 PM) *
Yeah, just make up the rules as you go along. And this bunch of clueless numpties are supposed to be running the country.



The 1922 committee is said to be virtually split on the issue but has to consider it as a lot of the membership apparently thinks just two candidates is rather archaic.


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post May 21 2019, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ May 21 2019, 10:24 PM) *
The 1922 committee is said to be virtually split on the issue but has to consider it as a lot of the membership apparently thinks just two candidates is rather archaic.

The 1922 committee is split on most things.

If they allow four candidates to go through, that would mean that they could end up with a leader who is only third or fourth choice among MPs. We all saw how Ed Miliband was treated by the press when he wasnít the MPsí preferred leader. Of course, the same press will conveniently forget how unpopular the serial liar is with his MPs if he gets the job.
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post May 23 2019, 09:50 PM
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So May will make a live televised statement to the nation tomorrow lunchtime outside No.10 if it's fine, inside if not, after meeting the 1922 Committee again. She's expected to say she'll resign on Monday 10th June so will stay on for Trump's visit on 3rd and D-Day events. The Tory leadership race will start officially on 10th too but it's not clear yet if she'll stay on as caretaker PM until a new one's elected, maybe in late July, or ask The Queen to appoint David Liddington as Acting PM. She may clarify this tomorrow.

She's apparently decided to go rather than wait to be forced out but wants to host Trump's visit as PM and the 1922 seems to have agreed to this.


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post May 23 2019, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ May 23 2019, 10:50 PM) *
So May will make a live televised statement to the nation tomorrow lunchtime outside No.10 if it's fine, inside if not, after meeting the 1922 Committee again. She's expected to say she'll resign on Monday 10th June so will stay on for Trump's visit on 3rd and D-Day events. The Tory leadership race will start officially on 10th too but it's not clear yet if she'll stay on as caretaker PM until a new one's elected, maybe in late July, or ask The Queen to appoint David Liddington as Acting PM. She may clarify this tomorrow.

She's apparently decided to go rather than wait to be forced out but wants to host Trump's visit as PM and the 1922 seems to have agreed to this.


The 1922 committee obviously fearful Brexit wonít happen now. Only way I can see this going is a new leader forces No Deal which ensures chaos inside Westminster or we are in for another large Brexit delay.
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post May 24 2019, 01:40 AM
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The new leader will have to have a general election for two fold reasons - legitimacy and to break the parliamentary dead lock!
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post May 24 2019, 07:04 AM
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Imagine a Trump state visit being the last thing you do as Prime Minister. I’d want to make sure I got out beforehand
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post May 24 2019, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ May 23 2019, 11:45 PM) *
The 1922 committee obviously fearful Brexit wonít happen now. Only way I can see this going is a new leader forces No Deal which ensures chaos inside Westminster or we are in for another large Brexit delay.



I hope Boris gets in and is brave and forces no deal.
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post May 24 2019, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ May 24 2019, 08:04 AM) *
Imagine a Trump state visit being the last thing you do as Prime Minister. Iíd want to make sure I got out beforehand



Why? As I said on DS, I'd want to stay on too as it's a great honour to host the POTUS as PM.
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ May 24 2019, 08:15 AM) *
Why? As I said on DS, I'd want to stay on too as it's a great honour to host the POTUS as PM.


Although less so, this one... wink.gif
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