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Posted by: SevenSeize Dec 8 2019, 04:16 PM

Tones and I could make it 11 weeks at #1, with Stormzy, Lewis Capaldi and Dua Lipa all giving chase. Harry Styles' newest single Adore You is set to debut high, plus Taylor Swift's festive release Christmas Tree Farm

Robbie Williams may keep the top spot on the album chart, against new releases from The Who, with their first record in 13 years WHO, and Camila Cabello's sophomore album Romance. Other releases include Liam Payne's LP1, Colin Thackery Love Changes Everything, and Kylie Minogue Golden Live in Concert

Breakdown of the week
- Saturday: Some information may be posted on social media but it is likely to be missing most streaming data and is unrepresentative.
- Sunday: Official First Look Chart on Radio 1 from 6-7pm
- Monday: OCC Top 100 from 5:45pm
- Tuesday: Top 40 update as and when we receive them with requests, this is NOT 100% guaranteed however. The OCC may publish sales flashes of their own accord but likewise, this is not guaranteed. Twitter and social media is your friend for today. Please post any information you find with a source. Do not nag for updates, we will post a top 40 update if we receive one.
- Wednesday: Top 40 update from Music Week from 5:45, and potential top 5 sales but this is not guaranteed.
- Thursday: See Tuesday.

Other notes (please read)
- You may make requests Tuesday to Thursday but outside the top 40, specific positions will not be revealed (unless deemed necessary by a mod).
- Please do not demand a midweek update, one will be posted as and when we receive the information. Patience is a virtue.
- Sales information will be given out as deemed necessary by a moderator, please bear this in mind when making requests. Most requests for sales will be ignored.
- To keep everyone in the loop of all chart action, please refer to the iTunes and Spotify threads.

Posted by: SevenSeize Dec 8 2019, 04:17 PM

Official First Look Chart: Full Update
Source: OCC

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey
2 Ellie Goulding - River
3 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now
4 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It
5 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
6 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go
7 Wham! - Last Christmas
8 Maroon 5 - Memories
9 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
10 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *

11 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
12 Arizona Zervas - ROXANNE
13 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
14 Billie Eilish - everything i wanted
15 Harry Styles - Adore You *
16 Lewis Capaldi - Bruises
17 Ed Sheeran feat. Camila Cabello & Cardi B - South of the Border
18 Elton John - Step Into Christmas
19 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody
20 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

Posted by: SevenSeize Dec 8 2019, 04:17 PM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: unknown

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (25,927)
2 Ellie Goulding - River (16,756)
3 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (16,028)
4 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (15,342)
5 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You (14,247)

6-10
7 Wham! - Last Christmas
10 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York

11-20
12 Harry Styles - Adore You *
13 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
14 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
17 Elton John - Step Into Christmas
18 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *
19 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas

21-30
21 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
23 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
28 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^
29 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
30 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

31-40
33 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
34 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
38 Katy Perry - Cozy Little Christmas ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 The Who - WHO (23,233) *
2 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (17,586)
3 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (17,465)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (11,219)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (11,159)

6-10
8 Liam Payne - LP1 *

11-20
12 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *
13 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
16 Camila Cabello - Romance *

21-30
22 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^
27 Idles - A Beautiful Thing: Life at Le Bataclan *

31-40
33 Muse - Origin of Muse *
35 Stereophonics - Kind ^

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: SevenSeize Dec 8 2019, 04:17 PM

Tuesday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Apple, Spotify, YouTube (Monday)

Singles

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (34.6k)
2 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (21.6k)
3 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (20.4k)
4 Ellie Goulding - River (20.3k)
5 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go (19.3k)

6-10
6 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
7 Wham! - Last Christmas

11-20
11 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
12 Harry Styles - Adore You *
13 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
14 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
17 Elton John - Step Into Christmas
18 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas

21-30
21 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *
24 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
25 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
28 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^
29 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
30 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

31-40
32 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
34 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 The Who - WHO (26.4k) *
2 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (23.8k)
3 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (23.2k)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (15.2k)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (15.2k)

6-10
8 Westlife - Spectrum

11-20
12 Liam Payne - LP1 *
14 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
15 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *
16 Camila Cabello - Romance *
20 Luke Evans - At Last

21-30
23 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^
28 The Script - Sunsets & Full Moons

31-40
34 Stereophonics - Kind ^
35 Rick Astley - The Best Of Me
36 Idles - A Beautiful Thing: Life at Le Bataclan *

Posted by: SevenSeize Dec 8 2019, 04:18 PM

Wednesday Top 40 ONLY Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data: unknown

Singles

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (43,646)
2 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (28,390)
3 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (26,182)
4 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go (25,223)
5 Ellie Goulding - River (23,844)

6-10
6 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
7 Wham! - Last Christmas

11-20
11 Harry Styles - Adore You *
12 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
15 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
16 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
17 Elton John - Step Into Christmas

21-30
22 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas
26 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
27 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *
28 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
29 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^

31-40
31 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
32 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
33 Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
34 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
35 Idina Menzel & AURORA - Into the Unknown
37 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (30,406)
2 The Who - WHO (29,665) *
3 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (28,375)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (19,236)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (19,003)

6-10
9 Westlife - Spectrum

11-20
13 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
14 Liam Payne - LP1 *
15 Camila Cabello - Romance *
19 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *
20 Luke Evans - At Last

21-30
25 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^
29 The Script - Sunsets & Full Moons

31-40
34 Rick Astley - The Best Of Me
35 Stereophonics - Kind ^
40 George Ezra - Staying At Tamara's ^

NO OTHER SALES INFO

Posted by: SevenSeize Dec 8 2019, 04:18 PM

Thursday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Amazon HDEL (??), Apple Music, Spotify and YouTube (all for Wednesday)

Singles

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (52.6k)
2 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (35.2k)
3 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (31.9k)
4 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go (31.1k)
5 Ellie Goulding - River (27.5k)

6-10
6 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
7 Wham! - Last Christmas

11-20
11 Harry Styles - Adore You *
13 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
15 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
16 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
20 Elton John - Step Into Christmas

21-30
23 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas
27 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
28 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^
29 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
30 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *

31-40
31 Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
32 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
33 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
34 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
40 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (35.6k)
2 The Who - WHO (34.0k) *
3 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (33.4k)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (22.0k)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (21.8k)

6-10
9 Westlife - Spectrum

11-20
13 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
14 Liam Payne - LP1 *
16 Camila Cabello - Romance *
19 Luke Evans - At Last
20 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *

21-30
25 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^

31-40
34 Rick Astley - The Best Of Me
35 Stereophonics - Kind ^
40 Roddy Ricch - Please Excuse Me For Being Antisocial *

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 04:27 PM

Just seen the Robbie Williams Christmas show is on at 10.55 tonight, seems a bit pointless - not exactly prime time due to Im a celeb - should have waited until next Sunday and had it on at 8pm!

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 04:28 PM

It's on at 8pm tonight

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 8 2019, 04:29 PM

Blimey that's too late, especially on a Sunday as people head to bed earlier for work next day. Should have been prime time as you say, 8 or 9 pm. Wonder if it's repeated nearer Christmas though.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 04:30 PM

Oh I've got utv which has an election debate on at 8, so they've had to move it. Good to see it's on at a decent time and may effect his sales this week.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 8 2019, 04:30 PM

It should keep him at No.1. Can't see The Who doing it.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 04:31 PM

lol I am in a different country I guess!

Posted by: Jack Dec 8 2019, 04:31 PM

Intrigued to see how Liam and Camila do, I think both could potentially miss the Top 10!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 04:33 PM

Yeh Camila especially has had a really poor comeback after establishing herself with Havana in the last album release.

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 8 2019, 04:33 PM

I would have thought Camila will be comfortably Top 10, no idea how Liam will do though - around the #15 mark maybe?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Dec 8 2019, 04:36 PM

Liam has no chance of top 10 I think, not sure about Camila,she may get the dreaded number 11.

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 04:38 PM

Dance Monkey will break the record for most weeks at #1 in UK chart history by a female artist (if we don't count Kyla I suppose), I genuinely cannot get my head around that. What's most impressive is that the other long runners of recent years (Drake/Ed Sheeran/Bieber) were all well established acts so for a complete unknown to achieve something like this is astounding regardless of your thoughts on the song itself!

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 04:45 PM

Camila has had a huge hit (Senorita) and millions of top tv promo
Liam's reviews should scare even his fans

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 04:46 PM

Hopefully Ellie is top 20

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 04:49 PM

I do have to respect this even if it's an absolutely atrocious song that I'll never understand becoming as huge as it is. A silver lining of it sneaking by the ACR rules, in the name of chart stats

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 05:01 PM

I'd be surprised if Liam Payne charts top 20, I think he's coming for a huge flop.
Camila will probably be somewhere between 6-15, but I think missing the top 10 is more likely.
Robbie will hold #1 easy.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Dec 8 2019, 05:29 PM

Camila's going to bomb seriously hard with this album, it's all been a bit of a damp squib this time around for her.

Posted by: Jack Dec 8 2019, 05:32 PM

She's gone from releasing one of my favourite albums of last year to releasing some of the dullest and uninspired music I've heard in a long time this year What's happened?!

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 05:33 PM

This Camila album has been handled really badly despite clearly having potential to capitalise off 'Señorita', just throwing out songs left right and centre and not focusing enough on any of them for them to really stick. Done even worse in the US where 'Liar' didn't even become the middling hit it managed to be here! It also doesn't help her case that most of the songs have been pretty bad/mediocre.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 05:59 PM

Almost First Look time!

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:01 PM

20 [33] Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:01 PM

ELLIE COME ON EKDJDKSHEJD

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:02 PM

Best 10s Xmas track!

Posted by: LMLou Dec 8 2019, 06:02 PM

Great to hear Santa Tell Me re-enter top 20

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:03 PM

Ellie a #1 contender!!!

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:04 PM

Ellie - River for #1!!!!

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:06 PM

19 [47] Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody
18 [39] Elton John - Step Into Christmas

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:07 PM

Slade in the top 20 already? Bit of a revival for that one!

Step Into Xmas is one of the worst imo

Posted by: LMLou Dec 8 2019, 06:08 PM

Imagine Ellie actually managed to get the Xmas number 1!?

Posted by: LMLou Dec 8 2019, 06:08 PM

3 great Xmas songs in a row! Love the takeover

Posted by: The Hit Parade Dec 8 2019, 06:08 PM

Why does Elton sound like he's off-mic?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:08 PM

Omg I’d scream

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 8 2019, 06:09 PM

Top 20 Christmas songs incoming

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:10 PM

17 [09] Ed Sheeran feat. Camila Cabello & Cardi B - South of the Border
16 [11] Lewis Capaldi - Bruises
15 [NE] Harry Styles - Adore You

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:10 PM

Harry Styles now a Singles Chart force! Quite liking this one.

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:11 PM

Big jump for Slade there!

Ellie will be a strong top 10 contender but surely she's not going to #1 on Amazon (and now YouTube I guess) alone...

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:11 PM

Lower than I expected for Harry, a little disappointed! #16 on Spotify yesterday but behind several Christmas songs that are on ACR.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:11 PM

If only River went to #1!!!! Would be the best Xmas #1 in ages

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:12 PM

was expecting this to be much much higher today, #2 on iTunes, #16 on Spotify but I think it was much lower on Apple

Posted by: mkirilenkofan Dec 8 2019, 06:13 PM

Why are people speculating Ellie getting a Number 1? This will not happen.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:13 PM

R1 have said she’s a #1 contender this week

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:15 PM

14 [06] Billie Eilish - everything i wanted
13 [26] Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:15 PM

I think they've called songs that are only low top 10 '#1 contenders' before.

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:15 PM

Tbf Radio 1 say a new entry at #12 is a 'contender' sometimes but considering it's one of the few tracks near the top on SCR it has to be seen as having a big chance.

LOVE Shakin' Stevens better than its counterparts!

Posted by: The Hit Parade Dec 8 2019, 06:15 PM

I didn't even like this in the Eighties.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:16 PM

Joseph said it would be top 5 at least another Phoenix moment? x

Posted by: gooddelta Dec 8 2019, 06:16 PM

Unusual to see Slade above Wizzard (their year of release excepted...)

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:16 PM

No

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:17 PM

You better hope it’s top 5 x

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:17 PM

It's kinda impossible to predict where River is gonna be since we have no data from Amazon, is she #1 on their Chart?

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:17 PM

It'll peak at #6 now then x

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:17 PM

#3

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:19 PM

12 [05] Arizona Zervas - ROXANNE
11 [22] Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

Posted by: TinyDancer Dec 8 2019, 06:19 PM

Do we think Harry has a chance of moving up or will it most likely drop??

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:20 PM

Drop cos he a flop x

Posted by: The Hit Parade Dec 8 2019, 06:20 PM

Sounds a bit like he was expecting a longer intro there.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:21 PM

this is one of my least favourite xmas ones, I'm really glad more and more artists are releasing new xmas songs, hopefully little by little they'll be replacing the super old ones

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:22 PM

Harry could move up next week, the album release will push it up I reckon

Posted by: TinyDancer Dec 8 2019, 06:22 PM

Anyone want to give an educated guess??

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:22 PM

Hoping at worst Harry will do a Post Malone - Circles, and climb into the top 10 in week 2...!

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:23 PM

JOHM LEGEND

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:23 PM

I think 'Adore You' has a decent chance of becoming a proper hit after all the Christmas songs have cleared out ~

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:23 PM

Omg iconic

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:23 PM

The heck is this? Can we not have the original...

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:23 PM

10 [NE] John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

What

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:23 PM

Joseph panic typing now

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:24 PM

where does this come from? also Amazon?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:24 PM

John is #12 on Amazon Music, not top 200 spotify :’)

Amazon really providing us with these fake hits!

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:24 PM

I kinda think I saw it on some Amazon Xmas playlist as track #1

Posted by: Suedehead2 Dec 8 2019, 06:25 PM

Not acceptable in the 80s and not acceptable now.

In the meantime, this version of the Lennon classic is dire.

Posted by: WhoChristmasssy Dec 8 2019, 06:25 PM

It's another Amazon thing

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:25 PM

...!

Posted by: gooddelta Dec 8 2019, 06:25 PM

Another Amazon exclusive? Where are these stats coming from

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:25 PM

Yeah this is an Amazon Original too it seems

edit: oops beaten to it

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:25 PM

Not even a YT vid of this

Love a random surprise in the Charts, lest we ever forget the Neales.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:26 PM

Ellie for #1 now

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 06:27 PM

Is Amazon properly rigging the charts now?

Posted by: The Hit Parade Dec 8 2019, 06:27 PM

Today is the anniversary of John Lennon's death.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:27 PM

They must be, surely?

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:28 PM

09 [22] The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:28 PM

FONY

Posted by: FelizNavidad Dec 8 2019, 06:28 PM

Maybe they've combined the John Lennon and John Legend versions?

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 06:29 PM

Great to see FONY making its way back in the top 10 for another year.

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:30 PM

Coming for dat top 10 peak for the 7th time.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:31 PM

yesterday I was checking some Amazon playlists and actually saw that Legend was #1 in this one
called Best of Amazon Holiday Originals, where Ellie is "only" #4

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0828BWJM2

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:32 PM

CQM'S TEXT WAS READ OUT

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:32 PM

MY TEXT

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:32 PM

There's my Whamageddon moment then.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:32 PM

08 [07] Maroon 5 - Memories
07 [13] Wham! - Last Christmas

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:32 PM

and these are all the Amazon playlists that have Ellie... lots and lots

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08292Z4B4/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0828BWJM2/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0828ZVDYF/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Most-Played-in-Prime/dp/B082852RWJ/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Top-50-Most-Played/dp/B08284HSTX/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Fresh-50/dp/B08282SS2P/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Finely-Tuned/dp/B0824LT2S3/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Music-Commute/dp/B0824J98KL/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pop-Culture/dp/B0824G214P/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fresh-Pop/dp/B0824G1F1B/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/UK-Made/dp/B0824FW2BW/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acoustic-Chill/dp/B0824FV5N9/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultra-HD-New-Arrivals/dp/B0824FKPTV/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08299WNRL/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pop-Right-Now/dp/B0824B4H5G/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultra-HD-Christmas/dp/B082333GJK/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laid-Back-Christmas/dp/B081VHMJR2/

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:33 PM

oh missed the text, what did it say? River for #1?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:34 PM

Yes

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 06:37 PM

I thought there was a spelling mistake when I opened the topic and saw War Is Over at 10!

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:37 PM

06 [02] Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go

Posted by: Riser Dec 8 2019, 06:37 PM

I believe this was your 25,000th post

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:38 PM

If Capaldi is only at #6 this far before on Xmas and on SCR surely he has zero chance at #1.

This is his best track after Grace so not one I mind so much hanging around near the top.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:38 PM

An iconic one!

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:38 PM

Ellie higher than Lewis Capaldi!!!

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:39 PM

so River is top 5 yay even beating Before You Go!

Posted by: Djcheekymagpie Dec 8 2019, 06:40 PM

And Dua lipa jump Lewis

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:40 PM

he could do the same trick that Ed did with Take me back to London and release a 2nd version as a duet with someone or with a guest
and then the 2 versions combined could give him the #1

he also doesn't have a video out

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:41 PM

05 [08] Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:41 PM

ELLIE HIGHER THAN MAITHA

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:42 PM

oh my River even beating All I Want for Xmas is You

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 06:42 PM

Lol Ellie ahead of Mariah now!

Wonder what odds at Xmas no1?

Amazon must have a huge market share then!

Posted by: joyride Dec 8 2019, 06:44 PM

Queen Mimi!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 06:44 PM

Wonder if Mariah would be no1 this week if it wasn't on ACR?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:44 PM

Queen ellie!!!

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:45 PM

04 [03] Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It

Posted by: Santa Klaus Dec 8 2019, 06:45 PM

There’s no way more people are streaming (and certainly not consciously streaming) Ellie on Amazon than Mariah on Spotify, Apple, Amazon and all the other streaming things. This is what has made the charts a complete joke over the past few years!

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:45 PM

ELLIE TOP 3

Posted by: Dircandydircane Dec 8 2019, 06:46 PM

They probably aren't, but she's not on ACR so it'll be a decent amount inflated compared to all the other Christmas canon.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 06:47 PM

'Consciously streaming'??

ALOT of people have prob heard Mariah for the same reason as they put on a Xmas playlist over the past few weeks.

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 06:47 PM

Mariah is probably #1 on Old Rules by some way if she is as high as #5 today.

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:47 PM

Wow, maybe Ellie actually is legitimately ('legitimately') a contender for Xmas #1 then that'd really be beyond a joke xx

Posted by: Djcheekymagpie Dec 8 2019, 06:47 PM

Dua lipa back top 3

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:47 PM

but bare in mind that Mariah is on ACR, River is not
if on regular ratio sure Mariah would be ahead

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:48 PM

03 [04] Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:48 PM

Ellie #1 ttyyyy

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:48 PM

ELLIE TOP 2

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:48 PM

I was expecting Own it to be #2

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:49 PM

oh my so top 2 for River

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:49 PM

Tones and I vs Ellie

Posted by: Djcheekymagpie Dec 8 2019, 06:49 PM

Sunday normal lot streaming missing to

Posted by: The Hit Parade Dec 8 2019, 06:49 PM

This Dua song is growing on me a bit, actually.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 06:49 PM

Imagine the meltdown if Ellie was no1 😂

Posted by: Santa Klaus Dec 8 2019, 06:52 PM

Yes of course, but people will also be choosing to listen to Mariah. I don’t think anyone other than cqmerqn is even aware the Ellie song exists.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 8 2019, 06:52 PM

02 [14] Ellie Goulding - River
01 [01] Tones and I - Dance Monkey

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:52 PM

ELLIE #2 OMFG

Posted by: dobcember Dec 8 2019, 06:53 PM

What a turn up for the books! Shame I don't like the song but ah well.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:54 PM

amazing

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 06:54 PM

Mariah dethroned as the queen of Christmas. We are forced to stan!

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 06:54 PM

IM SHOOK

Posted by: gooddelta Dec 8 2019, 06:54 PM

Mad, is it worth putting some money on Ellie for Xmas No.1? Surely it's only going to grow. I have no idea how Amazon only streams are potentially enough for a No.1 single.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 06:55 PM

Funnily I would choose Ellie out of curiosity whereas I'd skip Mariah because I've heard it so much but that's just me.

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 06:55 PM

Well at least Tones & I is still #1. C'mon get that 11th week!

I love the Ellie song but there's no way she should be that high. There's something really fishy about her being #2.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 06:55 PM

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:55 PM

incredible also that Ellie started the year with Flux peaking at #97 and Mama at #98 and now she's sitting at #2

Posted by: Mateja Dec 8 2019, 06:56 PM

Hopefully Ellie doesn't go #1. I like the song, but Ellie's rendition is really poor. She can't hold a candle to Alisan Porter.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY0-q9AzAZU

Posted by: Dircandydircane Dec 8 2019, 06:57 PM

how much Spotify data is usually included in this chart? I wonder if she's benefiting a bit because the infamously slow data producing platform would be costing everyone *but* her streams here.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 06:58 PM

it's also crazy how the Amazon Xmas effect has grown since last year
Katy Perry last year just made #23 and that late in Dec

this year River is doing much better, and same for the John Legend cover

Posted by: coi Dec 8 2019, 06:59 PM

So Christmas songs make up half of the First Look chart this evening, wow. Delighted to see Slade in there at least, wasn't expecting that!

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 06:59 PM

typically it's just Friday's streaming data for all platforms for this first look chart because for whatever reason they can't ever get yesterday's streaming data in on time.

Posted by: gavindeejay Dec 8 2019, 06:59 PM

Wow! Never expected an Amazon exclusive to get this high! Will be interested in seeing the sales

Posted by: gooddelta Dec 8 2019, 06:59 PM

I love Ellie's version of River, and the original has always been a beautiful song, and one that should have been a UK hit.

But this sets such a scary precedent. I bet there will be a lot of artists wanting to go Amazon exclusive with normal singles from this point on, knowing they'll have the full force of Alexa behind them (especially if they can wrangle the top spot on tons of different playlists - obviously the effect is amplified at Christmas). It's pretty scary how much passive playlisting influences the charts!

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 07:00 PM

if you have to compare, use the original, that's the definitive version
but at least Ellie is putting River and Joni Mitchell on the map and introducing them to a new generation

Posted by: Dircandydircane Dec 8 2019, 07:00 PM

Ah, thought that might be the case. So it'll be a question of whether she'll be offset more by an inflated early showing or if the song is genuinely growing more swell day by day as to where she ends up on Friday.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 07:00 PM

The OCC will surely look into Ellie? Like????

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 07:01 PM

I think it's possible there might be more Amazon data than other streaming services because this seriously doesn't seem like it should add up. Clearer picture tomorrow I guess!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 07:02 PM

I'm pretty sure your right win this point, hope she remains top 5 though. I like anchart shock especially when none of us has any of the facts we usually have.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 07:05 PM

I'm more shocked at John Legend being #10
We knew River was gonna be a climber but wasn't even expecting John Legend to be top 100

Posted by: December Dong Dec 8 2019, 07:05 PM

It's the fifth song on Alexa when you ask her to play Christmas music. Surely that's not enough?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 07:06 PM

Dance Monkey is on ACR next week (most likely), so I wonder if Ellie could genuinely be the Xmas #1?

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel Dec 8 2019, 07:06 PM

Dua being ahead of Stormzy is a little weird too.

Posted by: December Dong Dec 8 2019, 07:08 PM

Not with Mariah's xmas party streaming!

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 07:09 PM

That'll be because she's had a sales boost from being 59p on iTunes I think, sales are always more exaggerated in the First Look chart as the streaming data takes time to catch up (also Dua was ahead of Stormzy in the First Look chart last week as well). I can't imagine there's much of a gap between them at all. It's Ellie being ahead of Stormzy that is rather concerning

Posted by: Beautiful Ghosts Dec 8 2019, 07:09 PM

Was hoping Taylor could sneak top 20 in this update

River!!!!! That random song from John legend??!!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 07:09 PM

Didn't think John Legend would get a hit this year!

Posted by: December Dong Dec 8 2019, 07:09 PM

No, it's that random song by Train on their xmas album!!!

Posted by: 777666jason Dec 8 2019, 07:10 PM

Also noticed when i ask alexa to play OMS it plays some slow ballad amazon original version now wonder if that will help leona lower down the charts

Posted by: gooddelta Dec 8 2019, 07:15 PM

So bizarre that Taylor Swift, Little Mix and Mabel all release new Christmas songs that gain no traction or playlist support, yet Amazon provides easy cover hits for Ellie Goulding and John Legend, neither of who have had a major hit in years! Spotify need to get their act together and shake up their tired playlists or they could lose ground to their more dynamic and reactive competition.

Posted by: Beautiful Ghosts Dec 8 2019, 07:19 PM

Ikr

At least Taylor and Katy have finally been added to Christmas hits! (Tho both deserve to be higher )

Posted by: WhoChristmasssy Dec 8 2019, 07:24 PM

It'll be interesting to see if there are any other Amazon Covers in the top 100 tomorrow - what's in the Amazon chart?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 07:28 PM

I really hope the OCC let River slide lmao

Posted by: FelizNavidad Dec 8 2019, 07:30 PM

I'd been thinking the same - either that Friday's Spotify / Apple data is missing, or that both have Fri but Amazon has Fri-Sat perhaps?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 07:31 PM

Spotify hasn’t even updated today

Posted by: December Dong Dec 8 2019, 07:36 PM

You have to use her full name plus the song name for the proper version for some reason.

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 8 2019, 07:37 PM

John Legend that flew over my head

Surprised to see Ellie that high, I think she will drop a bit as the week go by, when missing sales are added.

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 07:40 PM

Taylor should've made her song an Amazon exclusive then it may have charted at like #6 then.

Posted by: Beautiful Ghosts Dec 8 2019, 07:41 PM

Haha I've literally been saying this offsite for the past hour 😂😂 Amazon is by far her best streaming platform as well so I low-key feel she could've challenged for #1 judging by river 😂

Posted by: Bjork Dec 8 2019, 07:44 PM

Little Mix's label now know what they have to do next Xmas

Posted by: lewis🎄green Dec 8 2019, 07:45 PM

I am genuinely loving this Amazon Music impact *.*

Posted by: Slade Dec 8 2019, 07:47 PM

If only Michelle McManus' new Christmas album had been an Amazon thing

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 07:47 PM

Omg... this!

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 8 2019, 07:55 PM

I remember reading an article in Music Week hope streaming exclusives is a labels worst nightmare as it can backfire however Amazon obviously want to show their weight and prove they are a strong streaming platform - both tracks have been promoted on multiple playlists, is 2020 going to be the start of streaming exclusives after this result?

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 08:06 PM

Apparently only a 2k gap between Tones and Ellie. Ellie for #1 this week tbh xx (I'm not really that keen on the song but just anything other than Tones)

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 08:11 PM

Just a 2k gap that suggests that Ellie could do 50k LMAO

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 08:14 PM

The gap will increase as the week goes on but if DM is put onto ACR next week she will have a chance.

Posted by: LMLou Dec 8 2019, 08:16 PM

I remember how much of a shock it was when Katy's Amazon exclusive Xmas song got as high as 23 last year, now Ellie is challenging for the No.1. Very bizarre but also pretty interesting

Posted by: December Dong Dec 8 2019, 08:20 PM

Got to be fake data right??

Posted by: Jonjo Dec 8 2019, 08:22 PM

Surely Amazon are accidentally having international 'sales' added?!

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 08:24 PM

Imaging if Ellie of all people is the artist to dethrone Tones the monster!!!

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 8 2019, 08:24 PM

Why would it be suspicious?! Certainly manipulated (like 99% of streaming tbh).

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 8 2019, 08:30 PM

Releasing music to Amazon exclusive, must be the new BLACK

Alexa play River by Ellie Goulding

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 08:34 PM

Ellie Goulding: blocks Mariah from #1 on the chart of 27/12/2019

Buzzjack: FUMING

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 8 2019, 08:40 PM

To be honest I actually prefer Ellie to get that Christmas #1, its just perfect for this time of the year. Mind you I do prefer the original by Joni Mitchell, can be found on her 'Blue' album.

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 8 2019, 08:54 PM

Robbie Williams coming for that Christmas #1 with 'Angels'

Posted by: Djcheekymagpie Dec 8 2019, 08:58 PM

Ellie Goulding river got YouTube sales to don’t forget

Posted by: dancember Dec 8 2019, 09:06 PM

Her YT video only has 766k views and YT counts for a lot less than Amazon anyway so I'd say at least 95% of her sales are from Amazon

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 8 2019, 09:30 PM

Let's be honest that cover of River could be by Samantha Mumba and it would still be #2 thanks to Amazon. Which is such a travesty for the charts.

Posted by: 777666jason Dec 8 2019, 09:34 PM

Ladbaby releasing on friday already got a facebook preorder campaign wouldnt rule it out after last year

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 09:36 PM

What they doing this year? Second year is never as impactful!

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 8 2019, 09:37 PM

I'm so done with this country if we end up getting a Tory majority government and LadBaby getting Christmas #1 a second time. It could happen tho. FFS.

(let's hope this will be like when Alex Day tried for Xmas #1 a second time and failed spectacularly x)

Posted by: lewis🎄green Dec 8 2019, 09:41 PM

#ILoveSausageRolls

Posted by: diamondtooth Dec 8 2019, 09:57 PM

Oh I would much prefer if it WAS released by Samantha Mumba!

Samantha for Christmas Mumba 1! :-)

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 10:00 PM

This weeks mids thread is gonna be nearly 20 pages 😮

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Dec 8 2019, 10:00 PM

Agreed, it just feels like a fake achievement.

Posted by: December Dong Dec 8 2019, 10:00 PM

Amazon is doing JonasStyles-style chart manipulation witb this lecel of payola!! Although I hope Nadine gets the next Amazon payola exclusive tbh.

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 8 2019, 10:03 PM

Tbh it could be any song by any artist with this push from Amazon and it would be #2. River is a good song but it isn't like anyone was checking for the original either bar a miniscule amount of people.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 10:17 PM

Was the last Amazon exclusive Katy last December then?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 10:26 PM

#83 at this stGe

Posted by: Brett-Butler Dec 8 2019, 10:27 PM

From what I've read on Twitter, I don't think we missed out on much

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 10:30 PM

Of the debate or Robbie?

Posted by: The Hit Parade Dec 8 2019, 10:36 PM

Was the carrot involved?

Posted by: Esmerelda Dec 8 2019, 10:39 PM

What a surprising update

We need more Alexa chart riggage!

Posted by: Brett-Butler Dec 8 2019, 10:43 PM

The latter, but probably both (didn't watch the former, I've just given up on this election).

Posted by: December Dong Dec 8 2019, 10:44 PM

I was actively searching and listening to Train's River including on amazon music oops.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 8 2019, 11:00 PM

Robbie was okay. Even has his dad duetting with him. Ended the show with Angels.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 11:03 PM

Yeh it was a fairly mundane debate!

Nothing of note!

Posted by: Drpepper Dec 8 2019, 11:03 PM

Both Idina Menzel's and Ben Platt's versions of River are superior.

I'd care - and I can accept streaming points + sales for chart positions - except this ACR thing is beyond ridiculous!

Posted by: Hadji Dec 8 2019, 11:04 PM

Ellie will need to close the gap on Mariah if she’s to stop her going #1

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 8 2019, 11:04 PM

Hope it'll boost his sales this week!

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 8 2019, 11:20 PM

Huh? Ellie is already above Mariah!

Posted by: Jonjo Dec 9 2019, 12:03 AM

Not heard Joni's version but out of the 3 versions I have heard...

Lea Michele > Ben Platt >>> Ellie Goulding

Posted by: December Dong Dec 9 2019, 12:17 AM

Train have the best version.

Posted by: Beautiful Ghosts Dec 9 2019, 12:24 AM

Idina>>>>>>>

(As usual x)

Posted by: Robbie Dec 9 2019, 12:52 AM

It might not just be Alexa that is helping to push 'River'. I posted this response to a question someone asked over at Haven about how Amazon seems to be having quite an effect on the charts. I don't have Alexa but I do have an Amazon Music app on my computer and for this month I am able to stream music from Amazon Music for free:

Anyone who is signed up to Amazon Prime can access Amazon Music. I signed up last week on a month's trial (therefore it's free for this month) simply to watch the Premier League football matches they are showing this month. Not only do I get the football for free I also get all Amazon deliveries for free and can stream music on Amazon Music, also for free and with no adverts.

Apparently Amazon Prime has 15 million subscribers in the UK and the Premier League screenings (there's more to come on Boxing Day) has apparently led to many thousands more signing up. If those figures are true then more people have access to Amazon Music (which as a paying subscriber service means streams are weighted higher) than are paying subcribers to Spotify or Apple Music.

Just to add, when you access Amazon Music through the app, at least on a computer, the first track on the first playlist that displays is 'River' by Ellie Goulding... 'Happy Christmas (War Is Over)' by John Legend is also there though it's track 9.

I don't know what % of people who are Prime members actually use their membership to stream music - I didn't even know I could until after I'd signed up to Amazon Prime - but it would only take a relatively small % of all Prime subscribers to stream music to have some effect on the charts, especially when a track is exclusive to Amazon.

Posted by: pes Dec 9 2019, 01:03 AM

To me the difference chart between Katy Perry amazon original last year and Ellie this year is crazy, do so many people realised they have amazon prime music, it needs to be more to

Plus did you notice that on the top songs listened some tracks do not appear at all like Wham or Leona original version of One more sleep, why they have this glitch wtf, not even in their most listened profile page appear

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Dec 9 2019, 01:52 AM

Really didn't expect to see ellie so high but good on her, I thought harry styles would be higher.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 9 2019, 08:42 AM

I can't for the life of me understand Robbie's album position on Amazon's sales chart. He's still only at 7 after last night's show, up from 10 and Rod's still No.1. Robbie should be much higher.

Posted by: diamondtooth Dec 9 2019, 08:45 AM

Since we are all talking about River, can I just say that I love Mark Feehily (from Weslife) version of the song.
Its on Spotify. Check it out! I love his voice on it.

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 9 2019, 09:00 AM

How is this thread already on 12 pages when we haven't even had Monday's mids yet!

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 9 2019, 09:09 AM

Chart rigging.

Posted by: gavindeejay Dec 9 2019, 09:57 AM

I was just thinking this is probably going to be the biggest FP thread in a long time!

P.S River is also on YouTube so that’s probably a massive help too.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 9 2019, 10:18 AM

To think that this time last year, Ellie was struggling with Close to Me only peaking at #17 and now she could be the Xmas #1!!!

Posted by: iHype. Dec 9 2019, 10:24 AM

Ellie is definitely benefitting from extreme Amazon promotion with Alexa. I'm guessing anytime someone asks Alexa to play Holiday music, her song is the first one played.

Maybe a rule where Holiday tracks limited to one service wouldn't be eligible to chart should be done if in the future any other Amazon exclusives keep being #1 contenders simply from Amazon's humongous promotion.

Posted by: dobcember Dec 9 2019, 10:33 AM

At least 5 or 6 of those pages comprise the live discussion on the first look chart so maybe just more ppl were free on the Sunday this time.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 10:33 AM

but a lot of people have posted that's not true
that when asking for Xmas songs, different ones are played and River is not the first

Posted by: Dark Horse Dec 9 2019, 01:24 PM

Liar could’ve been really huge, it had lots of potential but instead of focusing on promoting it, she started releasing random dull songs left and right, and it really hurt her promotion...

Posted by: iHype. Dec 9 2019, 01:39 PM

The song is only #17 on Amazon's sales chart despite being exclusively sold there, so clearly most of its activity is just Amazon recommending it to streamers. I'd be more likely to believe people went out their way to listen to it if it was also #1 on the Amazon Sales chart.

Posted by: AcerBen Dec 9 2019, 01:44 PM

Really this is just highlighting how ridiculous the charts are in how it treats playlist streams, and how they give an unfair advantage to the likes of AIWFCIY as well.

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 9 2019, 01:57 PM

The charts are rigged every single week by playlist payola - the only difference this week is that it’s an exclusive so it’s more noticeable, move along - nothing to see here apart from the fact that even in the streaming era chart rigging is alive and well and easily achievable.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 02:00 PM

seriously I cannot see the connection
there is no correlation at all between iTunes and Apple Music

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 9 2019, 02:02 PM

This tbh - if iTunes are struggling then to get a ‘hit’ on Amazons download site must take about 5 sales which is why so many random songs end up being Top 5 on Amazon and nowhere to be seen in the official chart.

Posted by: pippa Dec 9 2019, 03:16 PM

I hope Kylie live can start out with a good chart position when we see the midweek information later today.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 9 2019, 04:10 PM

Can't see it doing too well as it's only 62 on Amazon's sales chart.

Posted by: CockDestroyer Dec 9 2019, 04:51 PM

Everyone:
Buzzjack: *fuming*


PLEASE anything but Ellie. Boris Johnson pooping on the toilet for 4 minutes would probably be a more enjoyable experience than that voice.

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 9 2019, 04:57 PM

Kylie’s sales are always driven via her website TBF... the special edition sold only from her website sold out on pre-order so a decent amount were sold direct to fans.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 05:08 PM

The Who are #1, Liam #8, Kylie #12 and Camila #16 per the occ FB page

Posted by: miichaelking21 Dec 9 2019, 05:09 PM

Camila trying to launch an ARENA tour off the back of an album which is going to struggle to debut Top 20 in the UK...yikes girl

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 05:09 PM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data: unknown

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (25,927)
2 Ellie Goulding - River (16,756)
3 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (16,028)
4 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (15,342)
5 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You (14,247)

6-10
7 Wham! - Last Christmas
10 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York

11-20
12 Harry Styles - Adore You *
13 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
14 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
17 Elton John - Step Into Christmas
18 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *
19 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas

21-30
21 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
23 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
28 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^
29 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
30 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

31-40
33 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
34 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
38 Katy Perry - Cozy Little Christmas ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 The Who - WHO (23,233) *
2 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (17,586)
3 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (17,465)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (11,219)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (11,159)

6-10
8 Liam Payne - LP1 *

11-20
12 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *
13 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
16 Camila Cabello - Romance *

21-30
22 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^
27 Idles - A Beautiful Thing: Life at Le Bataclan *

31-40
33 Muse - Origin of Muse *
35 Stereophonics - Kind ^

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 05:12 PM

even the 89-year old winner of BGT is ahead of Camila!

Posted by: Jack Dec 9 2019, 05:12 PM

Yikes at Camila!! I thought there might have been a bit of hope but even Liam Payne is outselling her! One of the worst handled albums I've seen in such a long time.

Posted by: ElectroBoy Dec 9 2019, 05:18 PM

Oh didn't realise Camila even had an album out - she seemed to be pumping song after song out, it didn't really seem clear what she was doing.

Its all gone tits up for her as soon as she didn't release She Loves Control... (features aside)

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 9 2019, 05:19 PM

He'll probably climb too after he's on the Royal Variety on ITV tomorrow.

Posted by: Jack Dec 9 2019, 05:21 PM

She had 'Senorita' and then could've lead with 'Liar' (even if I think it's inferior) or 'My Oh My' with a full out promo schedule but she has blown it. Most of the material is really poor.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 05:22 PM

Camila was always doomed in December, especially if Rita and Clean Bandit couldn't manage top 10 albums at this point last year. If they waited a month I'm confident we'd be seeing better results in terms of peak position, god knows why they didn't release in Jan.

Posted by: CockDestroyer Dec 9 2019, 05:25 PM

i always thought kylie was younger x

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 05:28 PM

We can see which artists do well with a Q4 release and it's Ball & Boe, Rod Stewart, Robbie, Westlife... not artists that cater to younger audiences

I personally thought that launching the album after Senorita and Liar was good enough but maybe in October or next February, buy not in December

Camila's label should have known better for sure.. but they're the ones that pushed Sangria Wine instead of She Loves Control

Posted by: Esmerelda Dec 9 2019, 05:31 PM

Is Camilla still signed to Cowell's record label? Explains a lot if so.

Posted by: Glenn 69 Dec 9 2019, 05:38 PM

I thought Colin Thackery might challenge for Top 10 actually

Posted by: reissus123 Dec 9 2019, 05:39 PM

Totally does! They havent got a clue. Leona all over again

Posted by: Jordan Lee Dec 9 2019, 05:43 PM

Camila is an artist who does good on streaming sites though so after Xmas is over and we move into January I do feel that the album will have staying power of sorts.

Not surprised that Liams ahead though I felt he’d do better in week had multiple signings his week.

Posted by: ThePoguesmith Dec 9 2019, 05:44 PM

*whispers very quietly* I didn't even realise Camila had an album out this week. Awkward.

Also there's no way that Liam is holding onto a top 10 berth by week's end. Colin Thackery on the other hand will climb, especially as Royal Variety Performance is on tomorrow night. Don't underestimate the nanas.

Posted by: LMLou Dec 9 2019, 05:46 PM

God that's awful for Camila. I know it's different times of the year but to go from a #2 album to potentially missing the top 30 in less than 2 years is crazy.

Posted by: SKOB Dec 9 2019, 05:48 PM

Robbie will be #1 again this week I presume.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 05:53 PM

Singles update added

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 05:53 PM

yay Ellie - River still #2!!! but the other Amazing exclusive, John Legend down from 10 to 18 today
Harry up to #12

Posted by: pes Dec 9 2019, 05:53 PM

How the hell Sia Christmas song is so high at #30 wait it still on SCR

Posted by: krissykins Dec 9 2019, 05:57 PM

I’ve never heard this Ellie song.

Posted by: Cara Dec 9 2019, 05:59 PM

C'mon Harry. Make it to the top 10!

Posted by: gavindeejay Dec 9 2019, 06:01 PM

C'mon Ellie Get to Number 1!

Great to see Coldplay hold in the Top 5. I wonder how much of a boost RW's ITV special would of had? We'll find out in the next update

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 06:03 PM

MW sales added

Posted by: dancember Dec 9 2019, 06:08 PM

what’s this Ingrid Michaelson & Jason Mraz song doing top 100 then? another Amazon exclusive?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 9 2019, 06:08 PM

You guessed correctly!

Posted by: dancember Dec 9 2019, 06:11 PM

Lol, so Amazon can literally give anyone a top 100 hit now Jason Mraz is someone we definitely didn’t need back in the chart.

Posted by: SmileyKylie Dec 9 2019, 06:13 PM

Kylie Golden will drop quite significantly but hopefully can stay top 40 for the week.

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 9 2019, 06:18 PM

First Look definitely had something fishy going on then it seems, Ellie gone from 2k behind to over 9k behind, only a little ahead of Stormzy now.

(unless the mistake is in this update xx)

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 9 2019, 06:20 PM

Never expected The Who at #1, but I think Robbie will crawl back to #1 quite easily, that gap is reachable, Who sales will slowly decrease

Posted by: Stewie Dec 9 2019, 06:21 PM

So 'Dance Monkey' will break the record for the longest number 1 by a female artist in the UK although she is no longer actually No1.

If all sales were counted, the Top 3 this week would currently be

1 (2) All I Want For Christmas Is You
2 (1) Dance Monkey
3 (3) Last Christmas

When we have fake chart records, the charts become a joke for me.

Posted by: Stewie Dec 9 2019, 06:21 PM

Robbie will walk it again. RW is already outselling The Who daily

Posted by: 777666jason Dec 9 2019, 06:24 PM

Ouch at least LM managed top 40 on the monday update Taylor hasnt that is ouch,

Kelly top 40 already really hope she can repeak

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 9 2019, 06:35 PM

Next week Rod Stewart could take the #1 album as he is performing at the O2 (UK tour).

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 06:37 PM

Not when Stormzy and Harry Styles are both releasing

Posted by: Pigs in Blankets Dec 9 2019, 06:39 PM

Oooh, I forgot Stormzy was releasing this Friday, mind you Harry could do a Liam Payne

Posted by: WhoChristmasssy Dec 9 2019, 06:41 PM

Don't worry, he won't.

Posted by: FelizNavidad Dec 9 2019, 06:42 PM

It's not just ACR but all the changes to streaming ratios over the last few years that mean we can't compare like with like anymore (e.g. if the ratio had been 150:1 or there had been a free/paid split in 2016, One Dance would have had a much shorter run at #1).

Posted by: Zeebre12 Dec 9 2019, 06:43 PM

Camila is promoted in the media as this big female popstar like Katy Perry/Ariana Grande yet all she is is an average successful singer with a few hits and then flops

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 9 2019, 06:45 PM

Honestly very surprised at Liam Payne being that high, I was expecting him and Camila to both be low top 20 if they were lucky, I wasn't ruling out Liam even getting a ZAYN second album esque result! (Obviously this is Liam's first album but still).

Posted by: Cara Dec 9 2019, 06:46 PM

Oh yeah, Harry "could do a Liam Payne" especially with #1 album on pre-orders chart on iTunes and #3 album on Apple Music with only 3 songs out.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 06:53 PM

Liam must be so high due to the streams of the Xmas song + the 9 singles tugged at the end of the album

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 9 2019, 06:57 PM

Liam only has 2 songs in the top 1,500 on Apple Music ('Stack It Up' at #351 and 'All I Want (For Christmas)' at #1040), I don't think his old singles are racking up that much in residual streams lol ~

Posted by: TomJ1991 Dec 9 2019, 06:58 PM

If The Who get the #1, it will be only their 2nd number 1 album ever - the last was in 1971! What an achievement that would be.

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel Dec 9 2019, 07:07 PM

The Ellie position still makes no sense to me!

She’s at 3 on Amazon Music most played...I would have thought to get those sorts of sales she’d be sitting at the top with huge steams

Posted by: Jason Dec 9 2019, 07:08 PM

lol I thought it was Buzzjack's mispelt. I thought it was the John Lennon version.

Posted by: joyride Dec 9 2019, 07:18 PM

The OCC have turned the charts into one big sham! The most popular song 3 days in is rotting at #5. What a joke.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 9 2019, 07:27 PM

Please God can DM be on ACR after this week, the race for Christmas no1 will be thrilling but the fall of DM might simply make it easier for Ladbaby and the like to hit the top spot!

Posted by: TomJ1991 Dec 9 2019, 07:27 PM

Ellie Goulding will also be getting streams from the YouTube video, released 5 days ago...

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 9 2019, 07:29 PM

Epic start for a live album for Kylie considering her last two peaked at #72 and #26 - expecting it to fade away but 25th Top 40
Album is on its way

Posted by: Hadji Dec 9 2019, 07:29 PM

There were no sales update this time last week. Last tuesdays update, there was so we’ll have to wait till tomorrow to see if DM had a decrease from last week

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Dec 9 2019, 07:36 PM

I can’t see this album being saved, the whole era has been a tumbleweed and all the material hasn't had a favourable response.

It's a shame really, when her first album was released I thought she was in a position to make a big name for herself but they dropped the ball for the rest of the campaign and now this.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 07:44 PM

and she had one of the biggest hits of the year with Senorita so she was on a good position to get a hit album too

Posted by: sprock-93 Dec 9 2019, 07:45 PM

There is a mistake in the single chart. It is not John Legend but Lennon.

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 9 2019, 07:49 PM

The Monday sales didn't get posted on here last week but Joseph did have them behind the scenes, I asked him about it earlier and Tones is down about 300 units from last week's Monday update. Which tbh is kind of uncomfortably close to 'she might avoid ACR again' territory.



Read the thread xx

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 9 2019, 07:51 PM

If she avoids it Ladbaby will still beat her. The aim is to make twice as much money for poor families as they did last year.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 07:52 PM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Happy-Xmas-Over-Amazon-Original/dp/B081J9MPDD/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=john+legend+happy+xmas&qid=1575921117&sr=8-1

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 9 2019, 07:53 PM

Just because they're aiming for that doesn't mean they'll do it. I doubt the X Factor Celebrities charity single was 'aiming' to chart at #87

Posted by: FKA Twiglets Dec 9 2019, 07:54 PM

Off to stream it on Spotify, Apple and Amazon!

Posted by: WhoChristmasssy Dec 9 2019, 07:54 PM

Never heard the original, but not a fan of Ellie's River - a bit dull.

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 9 2019, 07:55 PM

Be gone.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 07:55 PM

Posted by: Wall Dec 9 2019, 07:55 PM

Tragic from Camilla

Posted by: FKA Twiglets Dec 9 2019, 07:57 PM

How many streams can I register a day?

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 07:59 PM

10 per song, sadly your Tones and I streams have been voided though

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 9 2019, 08:00 PM

It'd be more effective for you to send a politely worded email to Amazon to ask them to make up some numbers for her. x

Posted by: Hadji Dec 9 2019, 08:03 PM

If it weren’t for the Xmas songs, she will have more likely avoided it but I expect her to have a decrease seeing as she’s set to drop to #2 on the streaming chart

Posted by: pippa Dec 9 2019, 08:05 PM

After a great performance on Strictly, Niall Horan has siffered a big drop down to Number 86.
I assume he is on ACR.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 9 2019, 08:05 PM

A drop in position does not mean a drop in streams

Posted by: pippa Dec 9 2019, 08:07 PM

Kylie's Step Back in Time, is holding better this week than i expected at Number 40.

Posted by: Wall Dec 9 2019, 08:08 PM

Kinda in two minds, I hate dance monkey but want y’all to be pressed if it avoids ACR. Imma stream x

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 9 2019, 08:13 PM

I have been listening to Sia’s Christmas album a lot this weekend

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 08:34 PM

looking at Tones & I data on Spotify for comparison, the drop seems very apparent

last week Fri-Sat-Sun: 593k -588 - 477

this week: 501-508 -420

but of course Spotify is just the 1 platform, but at least here, it's quite the drop

Posted by: December Dong Dec 9 2019, 08:37 PM

This.

Posted by: FKA Twiglets Dec 9 2019, 08:47 PM

Move for me, move for me, move for me yay aa aa

Posted by: iHype. Dec 9 2019, 09:01 PM

If the song is pulling huge numbers at Amazon Music on its own merit, don't you think that non-Amazon Music users who aren't looking to subscribe would buy the song on Amazon?

And as someone said, if 'songs at the top of Amazon's sales chart are selling 5 copies', then why wouldn't she be able to do well there and hit #1? You mean to tell me she gets enough streams from Amazon Music alone to outdo nearly everyone's Spotify + Apple Music + Amazon Music streams combined, but she can't even sell 5 copies on their Amazon store?

Posted by: pippa Dec 9 2019, 09:05 PM

Liam Payne is at least 10 places higher in the midweek information than i expected.
I easily expected Camila Cabello to be ahead of him.
That said, interesting to see how Liam's sales perform as the week progresses.

Posted by: zeus555 Dec 9 2019, 09:55 PM

The Who Album would have been only their 2nd No.1 in the UK. They've had 14 Top 10 Singles,
and only 2 got as high as No.2. Their current Album is their 16th Top 10 Album and it looks like
it will be their 5th to Peak at No.2. Their only UK No.1 Album is 'Who's Next', which spent 1 Week
on top, on W/E 18th September 1971. I make many Lists, based on UK No.1 Singles and Albums,
and The Who are the biggest Act not to feature in any of them. 1 week at No.1 is not enough to
get them in any of my Lists. It is a shame, as they made many great Singles, such as 'Substitute',
'My Generation' and 'I'm A Boy'...

Posted by: Bjork Dec 9 2019, 09:58 PM

I already replied to you, the people that buy mp3s and the people that stream are different people, we see it every week at Apple vs iTunes, the Celebrity XF song was #1 on iTunes selling 3 times more than everybody else but #700 on Apple Music

Posted by: dancember Dec 9 2019, 10:01 PM

Clearly 'River' is only being promoted to Amazon Music subscribers anyway. You are more likely to know of its existence if you use the service and they're pushing it to you.
Not really surprising that she's not doing many downloads especially on Amazon where there's barely any download market.

Posted by: Glenn 69 Dec 9 2019, 10:43 PM

I wonder if we have underestimated Amazon's subscriber base if an exclusive can get 16.8k sales in 3 days. Presume it will end up #5 but that would still be impressive for an Amazon only track right?

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 9 2019, 10:47 PM

Yeh DM is usually on 27k on the Monday update so she's not far off it, it'll maybe stop Mariah on the post Xmas week if she avoids ACR this week too.

Posted by: M477h3w Dec 9 2019, 10:48 PM

So what are the odds of DM hitting ACR next week??

Posted by: Glenn 69 Dec 9 2019, 10:51 PM

Total numbers are irrelevant for ACR. It's just streams that matter so the fact that an unsuccessful contestant performed DM on X Factor tonight probably won't have much impact

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 9 2019, 10:52 PM

A fantastic listen ♥️

Posted by: Doctor Blind Dec 9 2019, 10:56 PM

All it needs is to register a decline in streaming equivalent sales (SES) compared to last week*, which was 68,303. So it looks more than likely, I'd put it at 70-80% likely.

*Given the streaming market is unlikely to decrease.

Posted by: CaptainMackxmas Dec 9 2019, 11:03 PM

3/1, I reckon.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 9 2019, 11:08 PM

Ellie is #11 on Amazon sales, it’s not like she’s #272

Posted by: Wall Dec 9 2019, 11:26 PM

I legit thought it was moo for me

Posted by: CaptainMackxmas Dec 9 2019, 11:37 PM

That last Top 2 of Tones & I and Lewis Capaldi that was one of the worst Top 2s of this year for me. But it happened.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 9 2019, 11:43 PM

Dance cow

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 9 2019, 11:43 PM

Poor joseph

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Dec 10 2019, 01:46 AM

I don't fully know why I'm surprised by ellie goulding do so well with this single, I think it's because her last few singles struggled.

Posted by: vidsanta Dec 10 2019, 06:47 AM

That's very confusing - I read it as 'John Lennon'

Posted by: Bjork Dec 10 2019, 07:01 AM

wouldn't it actually be 16.8k in 2 days?

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 10 2019, 08:45 AM

Is the Monday update missing Luke Evan's rising in albums chart

Posted by: Bjork Dec 10 2019, 12:11 PM

I think something doesn't add up for certain

16.8k in the Monday mids which I believe only has usually 2 days of streaming data... so she did 8.4K per day on Amazon alone, which suggest 840,000 streams per day... don't think that's even plausible, if we compare the #1 on Spotify is barely doing 500K a day

her song on Amazon would be doi9ng nearly double than the #1 on Spotify

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Dec 10 2019, 12:14 PM

But this is literally fake, engineered success for it.

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 10 2019, 12:45 PM

It'll be a travesty if it's Christmas Number One.

Posted by: RobBob Dec 10 2019, 12:56 PM

Why couldn't this have happened to Katy last year?

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 10 2019, 01:09 PM

I'm almost certain there is some chart rigging going on by Amazon. It is a shame but I guess the OCC cant do anything to disprove it.

Posted by: 777666jason Dec 10 2019, 02:37 PM

Amazon have been having a lot of sales on alexa devices this year or is that just a coincidence too many

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 10 2019, 02:39 PM

I bet most people did.

Posted by: dancember Dec 10 2019, 04:39 PM

Tuesday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Apple, Spotify, YouTube (Monday)

Singles

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (34.6k)
2 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (21.6k)
3 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (20.4k)
4 Ellie Goulding - River (20.3k)
5 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go (19.3k)

6-10
6 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
7 Wham! - Last Christmas

11-20
11 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
12 Harry Styles - Adore You *
13 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
14 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
17 Elton John - Step Into Christmas
18 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas

21-30
21 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *
24 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
25 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
28 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^
29 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
30 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

31-40
32 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
34 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 The Who - WHO (26.4k) *
2 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (23.8k)
3 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (23.2k)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (15.2k)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (15.2k)

6-10
8 Westlife - Spectrum

11-20
12 Liam Payne - LP1 *
14 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
15 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *
16 Camila Cabello - Romance *
20 Luke Evans - At Last

21-30
23 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^
28 The Script - Sunsets & Full Moons

31-40
34 Stereophonics - Kind ^
35 Rick Astley - The Best Of Me
36 Idles - A Beautiful Thing: Life at Le Bataclan *

Posted by: dancember Dec 10 2019, 04:39 PM

Tones and I is on track to go to ACR next week.

Posted by: pippa Dec 10 2019, 04:42 PM

Kylie is higher with both of her albums today than i expected of her.
I feel Liam Payne will drop sharply in the next updates.

Posted by: Eric_Blob Dec 10 2019, 04:51 PM

It seems similar to what happened with Cheerleader, Lean On and Lush Life on Spotify (or what's happened with Dua Lipa's entire career through every possible advertising medium).

Posted by: Bjork Dec 10 2019, 04:51 PM

Rod Stewart advancing over Robbie, looks like the Who will end up at #3

always amaΩed at Rod Stewart's fanbase that buy everything he releases, American songbooks, greatest hits, now with orchestra...

Posted by: 777666jason Dec 10 2019, 04:54 PM

Kelly up to 32 could she even repeak this week

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 10 2019, 04:56 PM

I’ve avoided it since it got released. I don’t understand why now.

Posted by: Wall Dec 10 2019, 04:56 PM

Ouch at Liam.

Camilla remaining stable, I wonder if she could overtake Liam and go top 15?

Posted by: Jack Dec 10 2019, 04:58 PM

That's nowhere near comparable and I'm sure you know it.

All of those songs organically grew through popularity - all of their followups flopped and some of Dua's have as well (Lost In Your Light ???)

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 10 2019, 04:59 PM

I got an Alexa for half price on Black Friday and they are now out of stock until December 20th so that might be why Ellie is having this success.

Posted by: Medellíam Dec 10 2019, 05:00 PM

It is possible, she's on track to come pretty close already so she could do it if Liam continues to sell at a lesser rate during the week. She probably has better streams than him too so that might push her ahead by the end of the week too.

Posted by: Rafael x Dec 10 2019, 05:02 PM

12 Liam Payne - LP1 *

out of t15 tomorrow

Posted by: Eric_Blob Dec 10 2019, 05:06 PM

Yes, they're not comparable. Dua Lipa literally had segments dedicated to her on the 6 O'Clock News on BBC One, broadcast to the entire country, when hardly anybody even knew who she was.

Posted by: RobBob Dec 10 2019, 05:09 PM

But people still CHOSE to stream her. Or any of those songs mentioned. A lot of the point being made here surrounds the fact that there seems to be a lot to suggest many aren't actively streaming Ellie. We can't prove that though, it just appears that way.

Posted by: RobBob Dec 10 2019, 05:10 PM

Also, that signature really needs to shrink, Aly

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Dec 10 2019, 05:14 PM

I mean, if you say so...

Posted by: Jack Dec 10 2019, 05:16 PM

You're just being a troll now

That's called promotion - literally every single act does it who can get a slot. Whereas Ellie, an established artist, is number one on an Amazon playlist where you ask Alexa to play Christmas music, she is the first track. Literally not even close.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Dec 10 2019, 05:17 PM

I didn't even know it was there, because it prompted me to say it couldn't be uploaded when I tried to update my signature.

Posted by: Djcheekymagpie Dec 10 2019, 05:21 PM

I glad tones and I gone arc next week need new number 1 get bit fresh air at top next week

Posted by: LMLou Dec 10 2019, 05:29 PM

Very impressive that Tones & I is still by far the best seller just now and won’t see a huge drop when it hits ACR

Posted by: Bjork Dec 10 2019, 05:31 PM

Everybody keeps blaming the Alexa thing but without trying it, Everybody that I know that has tried, no one got Ellie as first song
and mostly they got Mariah

I think it's more to do with Amazon heavily supporting it cos it's an exclusive and being in all imaginable playlists, #1 in many of them, including the Xmas ones

I think the situation with Ellie and Amazon is not that different from that Brenda Lee song and Spotify
that's a song that during the download era nobody bought even when lots of Xmas classics were coming back every year
and now it's charting 100% due to Spotify playlists

Posted by: Eric_Blob Dec 10 2019, 05:37 PM

The same applied to Cheerleader and Lush Life though? They were on an absurd amount of Spotify playlists (for no reason, I suspect someone paid a lot of money for it, or maybe a high level Spotify employee stanned the songs and decided to sneak them into as many playlists as they could), and it's pretty obvious they caught on initially because people were accidentally hearing them due to autoplay, rather than actually choosing to listen to them. Isn't this similar to what's happening with Ellie Goulding's song?

In the case of Lean On, whilst it was also on an absurd amount of Spotify playlists, which wasn't reasonably justifiable, at least Diplo and DJ Snake were famous beforehand, so I can understand people being interested to hear a collab between them, but the extent on the playlisting, as if it was a new Ed Sheeran or Justin Bieber song, was still suspicious.

Maybe this Ellie Goulding song will catch on and become a genuine hit and still be charting in the top 10 in March, and then you'll mention the suspicious Amazon behaviour surrounding this song to someone in 2024 and some guy will insist that you were just imagining it, but you'll know that wasn't the whole story.

The fact of the matter is, the first 1,000,000 people in the UK to ever hear Cheerleader, 90% of them heard it through Spotify (and the other 10% probably heard it via someone who heard it on Spotify), and had it not been on all those playlists (which it appeared on for no apparent reason), it might still be a relatively unknown song today. It's not like the song got popular from Vine or Tik Tok, or from festivals, or from underground raves, it was from Spotify playlists.

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 10 2019, 05:40 PM

When I ask Alexa to play Christmas music, I don’t get Ellie. In fact I’ve never heard the song since I don’t have amazon music.
Now I ask Alexa to play Xmas music via Spotify but the odd occasion I forget to mention Spotify she doesn’t play Ellie.

Posted by: Beautiful Ghosts Dec 10 2019, 05:46 PM

Where's Taylor?

Thank you <3

Posted by: Djcheekymagpie Dec 10 2019, 05:59 PM

Chris rea drop

Posted by: dancember Dec 10 2019, 06:07 PM

just outside the top 50

Posted by: dancember Dec 10 2019, 06:10 PM

it re-entered the top 100 in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012 and 2013 before streaming counted.
clearly it's got more popular after streaming thanks in part to Spotify playlisting but it wasn't exactly an obscure song beforehand.

Posted by: Lukuzz Dec 10 2019, 06:23 PM

How has Mariah slipped to number 6? So much f***ery. There's no way she's getting a number 1 this year due to these stupid rules. 😴

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 10 2019, 06:29 PM

She was obviously higher on Monday because more people streamed her at the weekend, but not so much on a Monday

Posted by: FelizNavidad Dec 10 2019, 06:53 PM

Monday's Spotify & Apple streams are missing - they usually are from a Tuesday update. No mention of Amazon being missing though...

...makes me think the other updates had an extra day of Amazon too. Would explain why the Amazon exclusives are slipping down as their data becomes less dominant.

Posted by: FelizNavidad Dec 10 2019, 07:01 PM

As for Mariah slipping to #6, she did 524k on Spotify on Sunday, but divide that by 2 and that's less than the 288k Lewis did.

Posted by: lewis🎄green Dec 10 2019, 07:26 PM

Ok so I’ve gradually made the move over to Amazon Music this week and when I ask Alexa to play any sort of Christmas music or playlist I have not had Ellie first at all? She’s only #1 on Christmas Present and you need to specifically state that playlist in order to get her which I doubt everyone is doing. Y’all just need to appreciate that something refreshing from the streaming era has happened with Amazon’s exclusives

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 10 2019, 07:39 PM

I've just asked Alexa to play Christmas music, I'm five songs in and no sign of Ellie.

Posted by: pes Dec 10 2019, 07:42 PM

Which songs were played?

Posted by: Bjork Dec 10 2019, 08:02 PM

seems like Alexa prefers Mariah to Ellie

Posted by: Glenn 69 Dec 10 2019, 08:26 PM

So Lewis Capaldi performed Bruises at Royal Variety and Mabel did Don't Call Me Up

Missed opportunity to promote newer songs?

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 10 2019, 09:06 PM

Mariah, Wham, Bing Crosby, Brenda Lee, Michael Buble... I think they were the first five.

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 10 2019, 09:08 PM

With a lot of these shows they're told they have to perform the better known songs

Posted by: FKA Twiglets Dec 10 2019, 09:21 PM

My streams didn't make the difference?

Posted by: Bjork Dec 10 2019, 09:25 PM

you have to do 10 streams per day at Apple, 10 at Spotify, 10 at Amazon, 10 at Tidal etc etc etc

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 10 2019, 09:30 PM

And it just gets better each year for me!

Posted by: FKA Twiglets Dec 10 2019, 09:30 PM

That's what I'm doing!

Posted by: dancember Dec 10 2019, 09:37 PM

I'm afraid she's registering a significant decline so there's very little chance of her avoiding it.

Posted by: FKA Twiglets Dec 10 2019, 09:40 PM

I know she's had more than her fair share of time at #1 but it's a little annoying as I still feel it's the biggest song right now, it's just that christmas playlists are taking over and I'd imagine all 'normal' songs are suffering a decline as a result.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 10 2019, 09:40 PM

Unfort it will likely open the way for Ladbaby for a week, would rather DM for another week!

Posted by: djsakgra Dec 10 2019, 09:55 PM

Marie's death is gonna change the things a litlle bit a thing the next days i think

Posted by: Hadji Dec 10 2019, 09:58 PM

Just seen on the Spotify update that the Xmas songs have had a bit of a decline yesterday with a lot of current songs getting an increase

Posted by: Hadji Dec 10 2019, 09:59 PM

If DM goes go ACR, maybe Stormzy could prevent LadBaby getting Xmas #1 due to the release of his album

Posted by: December Dong Dec 10 2019, 10:01 PM

Totally different to the ones she gives me... I even got the abysmal Wham first.

Posted by: December Dong Dec 10 2019, 10:02 PM

Ladbaby will be lucky to get top 40.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 10 2019, 10:09 PM

It is refreshing and something BJ can't control 😂

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 10 2019, 10:10 PM

Plus Buzzjack hates the fact that Mariah hasn’t got the biggest Christmas song for once x

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 10 2019, 10:11 PM

It Must Have Been Love top 10 again?

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 10 2019, 10:14 PM

He will increase but can't see him doing much more than 60k!

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 10 2019, 10:15 PM

Let's hope so!

Posted by: Glenn 69 Dec 10 2019, 10:30 PM

Tones is 55k down on what she did on the last Tuesday update even though she has gone back to No1 today. Certainty for ACR at this rate

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 10 2019, 10:43 PM

By the way great to see the welcome return of Eric Blob to the midweek thread!

Posted by: dancember Dec 10 2019, 10:46 PM

Except she does, but only half of her streams are actually counting.

Posted by: WhoChristmasssy Dec 10 2019, 10:50 PM

It'll definitely be interesting to see how LadBaby does this year - I do think he'll be a #1 contender.

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 10 2019, 10:54 PM

I doubt it, Roxette are hardly a big name these days. I'll be happy if It Must Have Been Love goes Top 100 officially!

Posted by: Rob Dec 10 2019, 10:56 PM

But Cheerleader was huge on iTunes back when Spotify didn't dominate the chart the way it does now which renders your point pretty invalid? It was also a big hit elsewhere in the world e.g. Australia so it wasn't like it was some obscure album track nobody had ever heard of.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 10 2019, 11:10 PM

Look at the midweek sales, if DM is removed they are quite low which makes me think he could do it.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Dec 10 2019, 11:17 PM

Ya a top 100 is prob the most we can hope for, it's such a great song.

Posted by: 777666jason Dec 11 2019, 12:04 AM

21 pages anyone would believe its christmas number 1 week

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel Dec 11 2019, 12:23 AM

100% going to Lad Baby unfortunately

Even more hype than last year!

Posted by: CaptainMackxmas Dec 11 2019, 12:45 AM

Yes it would be great if Roxette made the Top 100. Such a sad loss.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 11 2019, 08:12 AM

haha the OCC is so gonna notice and disqualify Dance Monkey from the charts thanks

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 11 2019, 05:51 PM

Wednesday Top 40 ONLY Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data: unknown

Singles

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (43,646)
2 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (28,390)
3 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (26,182)
4 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go (25,223)
5 Ellie Goulding - River (23,844)

6-10
6 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
7 Wham! - Last Christmas

11-20
11 Harry Styles - Adore You *
12 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
15 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
16 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
17 Elton John - Step Into Christmas

21-30
22 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas
26 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
27 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *
28 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
29 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^

31-40
31 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
32 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
33 Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
34 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
35 Idina Menzel & AURORA - Into the Unknown
37 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (30,406)
2 The Who - WHO (29,665) *
3 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (28,375)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (19,236)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (19,003)

6-10
9 Westlife - Spectrum

11-20
13 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
14 Liam Payne - LP1 *
15 Camila Cabello - Romance *
19 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *
20 Luke Evans - At Last

21-30
25 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^
29 The Script - Sunsets & Full Moons

31-40
34 Rick Astley - The Best Of Me
35 Stereophonics - Kind ^
40 George Ezra - Staying At Tamara's ^

NO OTHER SALES INFO

Posted by: Bristolmans Dec 11 2019, 05:55 PM

You lot on here every week talking about what number you want songs to be at makes no sense to me. The charts are pure fiction and made up. Just look at ACR, ratios, streaming, free/paid for, forced playlists. Back in the day, you knew where you stood. A sale is a sale. Do any of you actually take it seriously?

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 11 2019, 05:56 PM

It's still the official chart and there's no harm in wanting to see your favourite artists do well in it. A top 10 single is still prestigious (which is why I'm not gonna be happy when Harry inevitably doesn't go higher than #11 this week, album release to boost it next week please x)

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 11 2019, 05:58 PM

Wow go Rod. Did anyone predict Rod for Xmas No.1?

Posted by: ade2 Dec 11 2019, 06:00 PM

Tones and i catching up with last week sales 44k last week 43.6 this

Posted by: Jonjo Dec 11 2019, 06:05 PM

Kelly so, SO close to repeaking! COME ON KELLY!!!

Posted by: pes Dec 11 2019, 06:09 PM

I do not get why wizzard are so high considering their positions on streaming

Posted by: Bristolmans Dec 11 2019, 06:13 PM

The sales chart is the only chart that's real. You might as well read the bible or Harry Potter. The charts are a massive joke and an insult to artists who charted before all this streaming nonsense.

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 11 2019, 06:24 PM

Ellie is going to fall outside the top 10, it’s only doing 3k a day :/

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 11 2019, 06:26 PM

Wow Rod taking the number 1 spot, wish aul Robbie could manage it again for a second week before next weeks big NEs. Thought his TV show would have guaranteed this. Sales of 40k or just over for the top 3 aint great really in the second week of December.

Where is Christmas by Michael Buble?

Looks like if Tones goes onto ACR Stormzy will have the biggest sales if the current songs, Ellie already 5k behind him this week although she could be mid week no1 pending how many Ladbaby and any other surprise sells.

Lewis SYL doing well to be top 40 still with the xmas songs but it'll inevitably fall out for 1 week in the week after xmas which is annoying as its nearly 1 year in the top 40 now.

Posted by: pes Dec 11 2019, 06:26 PM

This seems like Amazon trying to stay low key after the big buzz around playlist manipulation

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 11 2019, 06:45 PM

Loving the song that was definitely the most popular song in the UK last week, 'Run' by The X Factor Celebrities 2019 we stan an accurate and real chart.

Posted by: pippa Dec 11 2019, 06:50 PM

Would much prefer Rod Stewart to take pole position this week ahead of the Who and Robbie Williams.

Posted by: Bjork Dec 11 2019, 06:55 PM

yes let's dump streaming and crown Run by the X-Factor Celebrities as the true UK #1 instead of Dance Monkey
would be nice to have a chart with positions 51-100 all tied with 1 sale

Posted by: dancember Dec 11 2019, 06:55 PM

I'd welcome Rod having a week at #1 just for chart geekery purposes of having a top 3 of debuts that all end up being #1s, with loads of #1 albums between the 3 of them – but hopefully Robbie or Stormzy take Christmas #1.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 11 2019, 06:58 PM

I would be extremely shocked if Rod ended up higher than Stormzy and Harry next week.

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 11 2019, 07:02 PM

If Rod does hold #1 this week I'm curious as to whether it'd be a chart first that there was a top 3 of new entries with the #2 rising to #1 one week later and the #3 rising to #1 two weeks later.

Posted by: Zak Dec 11 2019, 07:38 PM

Well at least Camila is gonna beat Liam

Posted by: Hadji Dec 11 2019, 08:14 PM

As long as Tones gets a decrease, I’ll be happy

Posted by: Jason Dec 11 2019, 08:22 PM

I really thought Lucid Dreams would be top 40 today.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 11 2019, 08:24 PM

Me too. All the supermarkets seem to just stock the one disc edition for £10 and the 2 disc is only £2 dearer on Amazon and you get 7 extra tracks.

Posted by: Bristolmans Dec 11 2019, 08:35 PM

So you'd prefer a fake chart

Posted by: Bjork Dec 11 2019, 08:53 PM

no I want a chart that reflects how people are consuming music, charts have to evolve and adapt, when a format becomes obsolete, we have to say goodbye and embrace the new format, what do you want a chart based on a format 5 people still use?
I don't like playlists either and I would change 99% of the chart rules but streaming has to be in the charts cos thats how 99% of the people consume music now

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 11 2019, 10:00 PM

The playlists are annoying and def effect what people listen to passively but it is similar to the new releases being at the fore front of record stores and the iTunes Store.

Posted by: Hadji Dec 11 2019, 10:05 PM

It should go there next week when it’s back to SCR

Posted by: AcerBen Dec 11 2019, 10:34 PM

ok that's a bit of an overstatement, you still need to sell at least 3 figures to make top 100 sales

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Dec 11 2019, 11:00 PM

I like how coldplay, robbie and Rod all went top 3 and are all getting a turn at the top. Cant see kylie live staying top 20 now.

Posted by: Spiceboy Dec 11 2019, 11:16 PM

Go on Rod, massively impressed he is a contender for #1. I honestly thought he would fall down the charts. I'm hoping he get's it now.

Posted by: Wall Dec 11 2019, 11:20 PM

Liam Payne going to miss the top 15 then, tragic!

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 11 2019, 11:36 PM

Not unexpected!

Posted by: Rafael x Dec 12 2019, 12:41 AM

louis to outsell liam with easy then

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 12 2019, 10:13 AM

Liam, Rita Ora, Clean Bandit, Camilla etc they need to start realising that Nov/Dec is pretty much reserved for heritage acts and those who appeal to older people now. The industry has changed and so has TV, channels know that older people tend to be the ones who watch TV live now so the booked guests reflect that more too.

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 12 2019, 10:32 AM

Robbie is THIRSTY AF for the #1 - he’s just added a new bundle to his store: Signed deluxe CD, Signed Christmas card, 3 x Cassettes and Robbie socks for £24.

Posted by: gavindeejay Dec 12 2019, 11:04 AM

If I were him I’d let Rod have it this week and pull out all the stops for Christmas Number 1 album

Posted by: vibe Dec 12 2019, 11:11 AM

LP career is so embarrassing he is so cringe !!!

How can you be that good looking yet so unaware that you are not Usher.

Posted by: ___∆___ Dec 12 2019, 11:41 AM

Pretty sure they will do something next week too - the current deal ends at 11:59 tonight.

Posted by: sammy01 Dec 12 2019, 11:50 AM

Tbf to him and the label his sale will drop dead by Dec 26th so they might as well make the most of it now.

Posted by: December Dong Dec 12 2019, 11:52 AM

Never heard of him And Usher is irrelevant.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Dec 12 2019, 11:56 AM

He's referring to Liam Payne off of the One Direction.

Posted by: December Dong Dec 12 2019, 12:01 PM

Oh. But he said extremely good looking though?? Liam Payne just looks like an overgrown fetus.

Posted by: Dircandydircane Dec 12 2019, 12:04 PM

Arguably The 1975's best album to date.

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 12 2019, 12:23 PM

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel Dec 12 2019, 12:56 PM

Are you kidding Liam is FIRE! I think he’s beautiful but can’t stand his music!

Posted by: December Dong Dec 12 2019, 01:03 PM

A mopey fetus at that!

Posted by: AJ. Dec 12 2019, 02:32 PM

Ugh, a shame Harry will get blocked

Posted by: Bjork Dec 12 2019, 02:44 PM

comparing this and week and last week figures for Dance Monkey, quite the decline

last week Fri-Wed
593-588-477-484-490-486

this week Fri-Wed
501-508-420-430-437-448

Posted by: davidas Dec 12 2019, 03:11 PM

Couldn't agree more! Do not see the attraction at all!

Posted by: krissykins Dec 12 2019, 03:42 PM

Socks! It’s fan exploitation.

Liam was selling handbags.

Camila released 4 new album covers.

Mariah is selling a signed CD (which comes with an instant digital download, of course) that doesn’t ship for 4 months.

Posted by: Better Man Dec 12 2019, 03:52 PM

Sure
But not more than Coldplay with 6 pounds/CD already on Wednesday first week and Rod with 7 pounds/CD this week

Posted by: TinyDancer Dec 12 2019, 03:58 PM

What do you mean??

Posted by: M4NGO HO HO Dec 12 2019, 04:00 PM

Presumably that Stormzy will block him from #1?

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 12 2019, 04:07 PM

Hi can someone please tell me the difference in ratio of streams for one sale when on ACR or not on ACR. Someone on my Facebook wants to know, Ta.

Posted by: dancember Dec 12 2019, 04:25 PM

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 12 2019, 04:27 PM

Thanks Dancember.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 12 2019, 05:16 PM

I think he pushed the wrong lead track. IMO Time For Change isn't that strong but that's the one Radio 2, Magic, Heart etc are mostly playing. Bad Sharon, Rudolph and Let's Go Shopping are stronger better tracks.

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 12 2019, 05:19 PM

No, that he'll get blocked from the top 10

(that too tho tbh)

Posted by: Laura130262 Dec 12 2019, 05:49 PM

Agree.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 12 2019, 06:09 PM

I think Time For Change is great!

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 12 2019, 06:14 PM

It's okay but I just think the ones I mentioned are stronger.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 12 2019, 06:25 PM

Bad Sharon might have been a better choice due to the novelty

Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 12 2019, 06:40 PM

Thursday Top 40 Update
Missing Data: Amazon HDEL (??), Apple Music, Spotify and YouTube (all for Wednesday)

Singles

1 Tones and I - Dance Monkey (52.6k)
2 Stormzy feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy - Own It (35.2k)
3 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (31.9k)
4 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go (31.1k)
5 Ellie Goulding - River (27.5k)

6-10
6 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
7 Wham! - Last Christmas

11-20
11 Harry Styles - Adore You *
13 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
15 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
16 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
20 Elton John - Step Into Christmas

21-30
23 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas
27 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday ^
28 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep ^
29 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody ^
30 John Legend - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) *

31-40
31 Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
32 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
33 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree ^
34 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree ^
40 Sia - Santa's Coming For Us ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (35.6k)
2 The Who - WHO (34.0k) *
3 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present (33.4k)
4 Coldplay - Everyday Life (22.0k)
5 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Back Together (21.8k)

6-10
9 Westlife - Spectrum

11-20
13 Colin Thackery - Love Changes Everything *
14 Liam Payne - LP1 *
16 Camila Cabello - Romance *
19 Luke Evans - At Last
20 Kylie Minogue - Golden: Live in Concert *

21-30
25 Jack Savoretti - Singing to Strangers ^

31-40
34 Rick Astley - The Best Of Me
35 Stereophonics - Kind ^
40 Roddy Ricch - Please Excuse Me For Being Antisocial *

Posted by: LMLou Dec 12 2019, 06:42 PM

Surprised by how well Camila has held up through the week. Still not a success but not as disastrous as I thought

Posted by: Darren1905 Dec 12 2019, 06:43 PM

Dua Lipa releasing new single at midnight

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel Dec 12 2019, 06:44 PM

How is Ellie still selling so much?

She’s only at 3 on Amazon Music?

It’s so bizarre!

Posted by: Michael Bubré Dec 12 2019, 06:46 PM

Mildly surprised that Coldplay are holding their own at #4 in the albums so far, I keep expecting Ball & Boe to overtake them. Small victories.

Posted by: dancember Dec 12 2019, 06:47 PM

it’s fairly close around where she is, I can see her slipping to 8 on Friday.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 12 2019, 06:49 PM

Looks like Robbie will have to settle for No.3 this week.

Posted by: Djcheekymagpie Dec 12 2019, 07:06 PM

How many Christmas song 41 to 100

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 12 2019, 07:10 PM

Wonder if Ball/Boe will overtake Coldplay?

Posted by: 𝕮𝖖𝖒x Dec 12 2019, 07:39 PM

Poor Ellie

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 12 2019, 07:40 PM

I see their ITV special is Friday 20th so they may get top 5 for Christmas.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 12 2019, 07:53 PM

That will only boost them potentially on the chart after Xmas.

Posted by: Zak Dec 12 2019, 07:54 PM

Camila doing the same strategy as Gaga last year (which got her the #1) by flogging signed CDs mid-week. Hopefully that can push her top 15 🥴.

The fact it's not top 10 is still embarrassing though.

Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas Dec 12 2019, 08:07 PM

Oh yes, sorry, silly me. Xmas chart is 20th.

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 12 2019, 08:28 PM

Sia has dropped a lot during the week

Posted by: FelizNavidad Dec 12 2019, 08:37 PM

If Mariah is that far behind, Tones could be heading for a "legit" 11th week at #1 after all.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 12 2019, 08:51 PM

I know it's a pity, she will have to wait until next week to be top 40!

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 12 2019, 09:07 PM

Was hoping for her to get a new peak

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 12 2019, 09:08 PM

Do we think Robbie’s album is a one year wonder or will it follow Buble’s footsteps?

Posted by: dobcember Dec 12 2019, 09:11 PM

Somewhere in the middle.

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 12 2019, 09:18 PM

Yeh I mean Rods Christmas effort still goes top 75 each year but maybe it's due to the market again?

Then others are never seen again!

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 12 2019, 09:19 PM

I’m hoping it disappears in January and never returns

Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 Dec 12 2019, 09:21 PM

He's British so he will prob promo it next year again 😍

Posted by: Better Man Dec 12 2019, 09:26 PM

Robbie told a few days ago that he has 7 songs Xmas more in his bag and want to safe them for a while. He's thinking to back with them in 1 year with possible tour next November-December.
But Robbie very often changes his mind and plans so we will see.

Anyway, Number 1 in UK, Australia, Austria and Switzerland by the moment is a good start for this album.

Posted by: tgl92 Dec 12 2019, 09:27 PM

His reign of terror will never end

Posted by: LMLou Dec 12 2019, 09:27 PM

How are Xmas songs doing in comparison to this time last year? I noticed they are doing quite a bit better in the US this year due to low sales over there